Voyage en Espagne avec une carte d'identité française périmée
by Nina59
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous, je me suis aperçue il y a quelques jours que ma carte d'identité était périmée depuis 2 mois or je suis censée partir à Gerone en Espagne pour le 18 juin pour un stage.
Vu qu'elle ne sera pas acceptée (je suppose) à l'aéroport et que ma nouvelle demande n'aboutira sûrement pas d'ici là, j'ai pensé au train. Mais savez vous s'il y a des contrôles d'identité à la gare?
Ou le certificat attestant du renouvellement de ma carte d'identité serait-il accepté à la gare ou aéroport?
Merci pour votre aide. Je veux partir!
Bonjour,
Par avion, il y a controle systématique par la compagnie aérienne, CNI périmée=refoulement.
Par train peu de chance d'etre controlé, néanmoins la chose reste illégal, et tu risques toujours un control de routine ou pour une infraction quelquonque par la police espagnol une fois dans le pays.
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Par avion, il y a controle systématique par la compagnie aérienne, CNI périmée=refoulement.
Par train peu de chance d'etre controlé, néanmoins la chose reste illégal, et tu risques toujours un control de routine ou pour une infraction quelquonque par la police espagnol une fois dans le pays.
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Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Bonjour,
Par contre, un passeport français périmé de moins de 5 ans c'est légal.
Michel
Par contre, un passeport français périmé de moins de 5 ans c'est légal.
Michel
Tout-à-fait mais notre ami parle bien d'une CNI.
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Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Oui, exact. Nous sommes d'accord.
Michel
Michel
une carte d'identité périmée avec l'attestation de renouvellement ca devrait marcher dans le train ?
Je n'ai jamais prédendu cela, le risque d'etre controlé par train reste minime, mais voyager avec un document obselète reste illégale, sachant cela à toi de prendre tes responsabilités
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Je n'ai jamais prédendu cela, le risque d'etre controlé par train reste minime, mais voyager avec un document obselète reste illégale, sachant cela à toi de prendre tes responsabilités
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Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
"Voyager en Europe et dans l'espace Schengen :
Les documents acceptés pour circuler sont, soit une carte d'identité en cours de validité, soit un passeport valide ou périmé depuis moins de cinq ans."
Après, te dire s’il y a des contrôles dans les trains, je n’en sais rien….
Après, te dire s’il y a des contrôles dans les trains, je n’en sais rien….
Quelques Voyages en Photos
Bonjour,
Il n'y a pas de control en zone Shengen que ce soit par train ou par route, en ce qui concerne l'avion et les ferries, il est de la responsabilité de la compagnie de transport de véririfier que le passager posséde bien tous les documents requis, néanmoins nul n'est à l'abris d'un control d'identité par les autorités que l'on franchisse une frontiére ou que l'on soit un plein milieu d'un pays.
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Il n'y a pas de control en zone Shengen que ce soit par train ou par route, en ce qui concerne l'avion et les ferries, il est de la responsabilité de la compagnie de transport de véririfier que le passager posséde bien tous les documents requis, néanmoins nul n'est à l'abris d'un control d'identité par les autorités que l'on franchisse une frontiére ou que l'on soit un plein milieu d'un pays.
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Xavier.
All know that French fries are Belgian.
Je pense qu'il est toujours possible d'obtenir des papiers en urgence pour des raisons professionelles. Le mieux est d'aller se renseigner à la préfecture ou l'hotel de police. Pour les passeports, c'est possible. Donc, pourquoi pas pour une carte d'identité. Par contre, tu auras surement besoin d'une attestation (convention de stage ou quelque chose comme ça) pour prouver l'urgence de ton départ.
Sinon, j'ai eu mon passeport par voie normale sous 12 jours. Donc pour le 18 juin, c'est peut-être jouable.
Bon courage.
Une preuve de plus que les parisiens bénéficient d'un autre traitement que les provinciaux !!
Ici le délai pour un passeport est de 4 à 5 semaines selon les mairies (fréquence de leurs navettes ?? parfois 1 par semaine), et je te prie de croire qu'il est rigoureusement respecté !! (affiché, 3 à 4 semaines pour une CNI) Et que pour avoir un pas en urgence, l'employeur doit prouver qu'il risque la fermeture si ton voyage n'a pas lieu, et que personne ne peut le faire à ta place, et impossible pour convenance personnelle, y compris déces !!! Et ce que tu appelle 'hotel de police' ?? qui gèrerait les papiers, encore une spécificité parisienne ?
>>> Si on veut, on peut <<< !!!
Devant des murs administratifs et corporatistes, tu peux quoi ??
Ici le délai pour un passeport est de 4 à 5 semaines selon les mairies (fréquence de leurs navettes ?? parfois 1 par semaine), et je te prie de croire qu'il est rigoureusement respecté !! (affiché, 3 à 4 semaines pour une CNI) Et que pour avoir un pas en urgence, l'employeur doit prouver qu'il risque la fermeture si ton voyage n'a pas lieu, et que personne ne peut le faire à ta place, et impossible pour convenance personnelle, y compris déces !!! Et ce que tu appelle 'hotel de police' ?? qui gèrerait les papiers, encore une spécificité parisienne ?
>>> Si on veut, on peut <<< !!!
Devant des murs administratifs et corporatistes, tu peux quoi ??
Bonjour,
Par "hôtel de police" il veut dire commissariat.
Michel
Par "hôtel de police" il veut dire commissariat.
Michel
malheureusement vous serez dans l'illegalité. et si vous allez en avion vous ne pourrez pas embarquer sinon croiser les doigts pour qu'il n y a pas de controle de police.
>>> Par "hôtel de police" il veut dire commissariat. <<<
ca j'avais pigé, mais dans mon trou, si tu vas au commissariat pour une CNI ou un pass, au mieux je me fais rediriger vers la mairie, au pire je tombe sur un mur d'incompréhension !
Y a t'il des commissariats, en province, qui se chargent de ces formalités ??
ca j'avais pigé, mais dans mon trou, si tu vas au commissariat pour une CNI ou un pass, au mieux je me fais rediriger vers la mairie, au pire je tombe sur un mur d'incompréhension !
Y a t'il des commissariats, en province, qui se chargent de ces formalités ??
Bonjour,
Cette fonction des commissariats de police est spécifique à Paris, et peut-être quelques autres très grandes villes.
Michel
Cette fonction des commissariats de police est spécifique à Paris, et peut-être quelques autres très grandes villes.
Michel
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Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel