Bonjour.
Je suis en train de planifier un voyage avec mon copain. Nous partirons probablement début mars 2019 pour une période d'environ 6 semaines.
Nous partirons de Montréal, Québec. Nous voulons visiter le Vietnam, le Laos, et finir par une semaine à ChangMai avec retour par Bangkok. Nous avions pensé aller aussi au Cambodge mais j'ai peur que ça fasse trop de déplacements.
Quel serait selon vous un itinéraire intelligent. Est-ce que le Vietnam du sud est intéressant ?
Quels sont les vols intérieurs les plus communs pour se rendre du Vietnam au Laos ?
Toujours le mêm problème : le Laos et le Vietnam étant parallèles nord-sud, pour visiter les 2, il faut monter tout l'un et descendre tout l'autre. Comme vs voulez ensuite passer en Thailande, la logique voudrait atterrir à Saigon, faire tout le Vietnam du sud au nord en privilégiant le superbe Nord du Vietnam, vous finissez le tour des montagnes à Sapa, puis bus direct Sapa-Dien Bien Phu et passage au Laos; jusqu'à Khoa ; trekking dans les montagnes du Nord Laos, puis descente (minibus et bateau) de la rivière Nam Ou jusqu'à la très charmante Luang Parbang, balades dans les environs, puis passage au nord de la Thailande ou faire un aller et retour 4-6 jours LP-Vang Vien-LP + LP-Thailande
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour.
D'abord, je vous remercie d'avoir pris le temps de me répondre.
Je regarde la carte et tout ça me semble logique. Mais je ne trouve pas Khoa. C'est au Laos ? Y a t'il un autre nom ?
Pour le bus de Sapa à Dien Bien Phu, combien d'heures faut-il ?
Et la rivière Nam Ou, il y a un autre nom ?
MERCI 🙂
Toujours le mêm problème : le Laos et le Vietnam étant parallèles nord-sud, pour visiter les 2, il faut monter tout l'un et descendre tout l'autre. Comme vs voulez ensuite passer en Thailande, la logique voudrait atterrir à Saigon, faire tout le Vietnam du sud au nord en privilégiant le superbe Nord du Vietnam, vous finissez le tour des montagnes à Sapa, puis bus direct Dien Bien Phu et passage au Laos; jusqu'à Khoa ; trekking dans les montagnes du Nord Laos, puis descente (minibus et bateau) de la rivière Nam Ou jusqu'à la très charmante Luang Parbang, balades dans les environs, puis passage au nord de la Thailande ou faire un aller et retour 4-6 jours LP-Vang Vien-LP + LP-Thailande
Khoa = Muang Khua au Laos...
C'est de là que démarre la descente par la rivière Nam Ou pour rejoindre Luang Prabang via Muang Ngoy et Nong Khiaw , après cette petite ville charmante qui mérite un arrêt ce sera le bus pour finir à cause des barrages.
Bus Sapa - Dien Bien en 10 heure, la route est de montagne...😕
Bus Dien Bien - Muong Khua 5/6 h comptez 2 h de plus avec le temps de passage de la frontière
De la frontière vietnamienne , il faut faire un trajet de 6 km pour aller la poste frontière du Laos.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Un gros merci pour ces infos ! Bien hâte de découvrir ces beaux pays. Ne vous gênez pas pour me recommander des lieux. Je suis ouverte aux suggestions.
🙏
bonjour,
je suis en train de planifier à peu près le même voyage que vous, 6 semaines en juillet aout, mais mon itinéraire sera différent.
Je connais déjà le laos, et je sais quelles sont les étapes où je veux retourner. Je pense rester 15 jours au vietnam, que je ne connais pas et pour bénéficier du visa gratuit. Je pense faire hanoi, la baie d'halong terrestre, et descendre vers Hué, Hoi An pour passer la frontière vers le sud du laos (paksé) A partir de Paksé, 3 choses incontournables à voir: les 4000 îles (fabuleux), le plateau des Bolovens, Champasak, il faut au moins 10 jours pour faire tout ça et profiter. Ensuite, remontée vers savannaketh, petite étape car la route est longue, puis Vientiane, vang vieng et luang prabang (incontournable). Il faut absolument aller à nong Khiaw, village hyper reposant, au bord de la nam ou (nom de la rivière) C'est un lieu zen, où la vie passe doucement et sereinement, ce fut un grand souvenir! Je pense ensuite prendre un avion de luang prabang à Bangkok, pour reprendre l'avion. Toutefois, je vous conseille la croisière de 2 jours sur le mékong pour descendre de luang prabang à huay xay, je l'ai fait il y a 4 ans, c'est inoubliable et pas très cher! une 40 aines d'euros les 2 jours, la nuit se fait dans un hotel que vous devez réserver à Pakbeng. De huay xay, il est simple de se rendre à chiang mai et chiang rai. Attention, Chiang Mai est devenue une ville très touristique et a perdu de son intéret selon moi. Une semaine sera bcp trop à mon sens. Préférez vous rendre à Sukothai, magnifiques ruines au charme fou et à chiang rai (ville peu attractive mais quelques visites sympa comme le temple blanc tout près)
Vous allez faire un magnifique séjour car le laos est un pays inoubliable, simple, et authentique et surtout peu touristique. C'est un havre de paix, il me tarde d'y retourner.
Merci pour toutes vos informations. Je prends des notes. Je ne pense pas aller très au sud au Laos cette fois-ci. Nous allons probablement graviter autour de Luang P.
Selon vous, la descente de la rivière vaut la peine ?
Pour Chiang Mai, nous y sommes allés en mars 2018 mais nous y retournons entre autres pour visiter un ami. Il connaît beaucoup d’endroits non touristiques autour et on fait de beaux tours de moto. L’an dernier, nous sommes partis 3 jours avec un petit bagage pour aller tout près de la frontière de la Birmanie. Très rural. On a beaucoup aimé !
Mon copain est déjà allé au Cambodge, Vietnam et Laos. Il a aussi adoré le Laos. Mais 10 jours, c’est peu !
Merci encore !
Je vous conseillerai plutôt la descente de la Nam Ou que le parcours par la route.
En descendant la Nam Ou - Nong Khiaw et Muang Ngoi sont les haltes incontournables du nord du Laos😏.
Nong Khiaw est une petite ville de plus 3500 habitants.
En plein centre-ville de Nong Khiaw, il existe un chemin qui mène à l’un des plus beaux points de vue panoramique de la région. De Nong Khian de nombreux treks sont proposés par les GH et agences.
Muang Ngoi est un petit village au milieu d’un cadre enchanteur, c'est mon coup de cœur sur cette descente. Il est plus enclavé et moins développé que Nong Khiaw, l’électricité n'a été installée que depuis quelques petites années on se croirait parfois à une autre époque..
Ici aussi de belles randonnées avec entre autre, la grotte de Tham Kang, le village de Ban Na et le village de Huay Bo d'environ 43 familles ou vous pouvez dormir chez l’habitant..
https://goo.gl/maps/nU1Qi2eD3772
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
bonjour
Si vous voulez vous rendre à chiang mai de luang prabang, 2 choix: la route ou le mékong.
La route, c'est clairement plus rapide, mais le Mékong c'est vraiment du bonheur. On a voyagé sur un bateau de 40 places environ, on devait être 6 ou 7 touristes, et une 20 aines de laotiens. Régulièrement, le bateau s'arrête pour livrer des villages et on voit des scènes géniales. On ne rencontre que 2 ou 3 ponts en 2 jours, c'est dire si la région est enclavée! Pour moi, ça reste un temps fort de mon voyage, j'ai trouvé ça très émouvant, les paysages sont sublimes, et on se rend compte aussi que le Mékong est un fleuve très pollué. Il existe une autre possibilité, mais je ne vous la conseille pas du tout (dangereux), c'est le trajet en speed boat. C'est évidemment bcp plus rapide, mais les gens mettent un casque tellement c'est rapide et dangereux. Un homme a même abandonné dans un village et est monté sur notre bateau, il trouvait ça terrible!
Voilà pour les quelques infos que je pouvais vous apporter. De mon côté, je pense passer la frontière à dien bien phu, et aller à nong kiaw, ce village est très sympa, hors du temps, je vous conseille une guesthouse tenu par un allemand, à la sortie du village, près de la gare routière, le mandala ou resort. Il est un peu cher, mais bénéficie d'une vue incroyable et de bungalow sublime (autour de 35 euros la nuit, voire un peu moins avec la promo sur leur site).
faites un beau voyage
Frédéric
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First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Bonjour ,
nous sommes actuellement à Mai chau et demain nous reprenons la route pour Hanoi afin de monter vers Ba Ha et Sapa .
Pas vraiment de programme attitré depuis notre arrivée nous avons déjà fait la baie d'Halong terrestre et maritime.
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Avez vous des conseils ?
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Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
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Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
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Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
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Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
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Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
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Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
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My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
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Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
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Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
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Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing
July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao
August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide
August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena
August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands
August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts)
August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk
August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar
August 17: Rammang Rammang
August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary.
We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1**
Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2**
Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3**
Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4**
Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5**
Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6**
Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7**
Sidemen
**Day 8**
Sidemen
**Day 9**
Sidemen
**Day 10**
Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11**
Gili Air
**Day 12**
Gili Air
**Day 13**
Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14**
Ubud
**Day 15**
Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family?
Does it feel too packed or well-balanced?
Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
