Incredible India! Lonely, escroqueries & co
by Attribal
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Ma fille m'ayant rejoint en Inde, le Lonely planet à la main, nous l'avons utilisé comme référence pendant deux semaines...un constat...pour l'Inde, il est inintéressant, sauf si vous souhaitez aller ou tout le monde va..., par exemple à Kochin, ou il n' ya pas grand chose à voir, les backwaters, ou vous vous laisserez embarquer pour faire en une journée le tour d'un îlot ou l'on vous promène au gré des "attactions" préparée à votre égard, Varkala et sa plage ou tout est prévu pour arnaquer le touriste, ou vous pourrez passer une soirée pseudo sympa à écouter des indiens genre g.o du club med qui animeront la soirée, subir aussi l'assaut d'Indiens venant photographier les européennes, certains essayant même d'aller plus loin...d'aller dans des hôtels qui correspondent peu parfois à la description qu'on en fait dans le fameux guide...ou visiter une réserve narurelle, ou l'on vous case dans un baraquement insalubre dont vous ne pouvez pas sortir alors que les indiens se promènent tranquilement tout autour, ou le "restaurant" n'offre rien à manger, ou on vous fait lever pour un pseudo-safari qui empruntera quelques kilomètres de route nationale puis reviendrez par une piste (parallèle à la nationale) eloignée de quelques centaines de mètres de la même nationale, ou devant votre dépit, au retour , une meute de jeep vous propose des safaris à 20 €, mais sans vous dire qu'ils n'ont pas le droit de sortir des routes asphaltées...donc n'espérez pas voir grand chose en dehors de quelques biches ....de beaux temples et palais ou vous paierez 10 ou 15 fois le prix d'entrée que paie un indien pour constater que votre argent ne sert nullement à entretenir les sites mais juste à enrichir les potentats locaux.....bref...si vous voulez faire un voyage vraiment intéressant, éviter le Lonely planet et les lieux touristiques, découvrez l'Inde, la vraie et pas celle de l'escroquerie organisée par l'état et les marchands en quête de pigeons...
Bonjour,
une seule question : pourquoi avoir passé 15 jours avec le Lonely s'il vous a semblé si inapproprié que ça ? Pourquoi ne pas avoir fait l'effort de découvrir par vous-mêmes d'autres endroits que ceux décrits ?
Je ne vais pas prétendre que le guide est parfait mais il y a des limites à ce qui peut en être dit et à la responsabilité qu'on lui attribue.
C'était à VOUS de faire la part des choses entre les propositions du guide et ce que vous attendiez de votre voyage. Dites-vous bien qu'un guide est édité pour convenir aux besoins (supposés) du plus grand nombre, alors évidemment qu'il n'est pas forcément adapté.
"Varkala et sa plage ou tout est prévu pour arnaquer le touriste, ou vous pourrez passer une soirée pseudo sympa à écouter des indiens genre g.o du club med qui animeront la soirée, subir aussi l'assaut d'Indiens venant photographier les européennes, certains essayant même d'aller plus loin" : arnaquer le touriste si celui-ci se laisse prendre plutôt. Pas besoin d'être sorti de la cuisse de Jupiter pour deviner que les boutiques pratiquent des prix prohibitifs. Personne ne vous oblige à y entrer ni d'ailleurs à aller à une soirée.
"de beaux temples et palais ou vous paierez 10 ou 15 fois le prix d'entrée que paie un indien pour constater que votre argent ne sert nullement à entretenir les sites mais juste à enrichir les potentats locaux....." : quel rapport avec le Lonely ? Les prix ne sont pas fixés par ce guide, à ce que je sache. C'est comme ça, et encore une fois, personne ne vous oblige à visiter quoi que ce soit.
J'espère qu'au moins vous êtes revenus avec de bons souvenirs, qu'il aurait été agréables de nous faire partager aussi !
une seule question : pourquoi avoir passé 15 jours avec le Lonely s'il vous a semblé si inapproprié que ça ? Pourquoi ne pas avoir fait l'effort de découvrir par vous-mêmes d'autres endroits que ceux décrits ?
Je ne vais pas prétendre que le guide est parfait mais il y a des limites à ce qui peut en être dit et à la responsabilité qu'on lui attribue.
C'était à VOUS de faire la part des choses entre les propositions du guide et ce que vous attendiez de votre voyage. Dites-vous bien qu'un guide est édité pour convenir aux besoins (supposés) du plus grand nombre, alors évidemment qu'il n'est pas forcément adapté.
"Varkala et sa plage ou tout est prévu pour arnaquer le touriste, ou vous pourrez passer une soirée pseudo sympa à écouter des indiens genre g.o du club med qui animeront la soirée, subir aussi l'assaut d'Indiens venant photographier les européennes, certains essayant même d'aller plus loin" : arnaquer le touriste si celui-ci se laisse prendre plutôt. Pas besoin d'être sorti de la cuisse de Jupiter pour deviner que les boutiques pratiquent des prix prohibitifs. Personne ne vous oblige à y entrer ni d'ailleurs à aller à une soirée.
"de beaux temples et palais ou vous paierez 10 ou 15 fois le prix d'entrée que paie un indien pour constater que votre argent ne sert nullement à entretenir les sites mais juste à enrichir les potentats locaux....." : quel rapport avec le Lonely ? Les prix ne sont pas fixés par ce guide, à ce que je sache. C'est comme ça, et encore une fois, personne ne vous oblige à visiter quoi que ce soit.
J'espère qu'au moins vous êtes revenus avec de bons souvenirs, qu'il aurait été agréables de nous faire partager aussi !
"Au moins une fois par an, ou aussi souvent que possible, allez quelque part où vous n’êtes jamais allé auparavant." Dalai Lama
A une époque d'accès ultra-facilité à l'information, voire même la sur-information, des sites internet (VF au hasard ...) et des chaines de télévision spécialisés dans les voyages, qui aujourd'hui peut encore à ce point se laisser imposer une telle succession d'attrape-gogos sans les avoir préalablement "sentis venir" et sans réagir ensuite, se lancer tout seul à l'aventure au gré de ses propres feeling, intuition, envie, humeur, folie ? 🙂
N'ayez nulle inquiétude pour moi, mon voyage fût des plus"riches" en dehors de ces expériences, c'était juste pour mettre en garde ceux qui s'y aventurent, pour ma part, recherchant avant toute chose à vivre l'Inde, j'y ai été , comme tous, bouleversé, enthousiasmé, étonné, dépité, ... d'autant que j'y avais été 29 années plus tôt....
Quand au pourquoi ai-je suivi un temps le "guide" en question, je te dirais simplement que ma fille étant arrivée avec ses destinations inspirées par celui-ci, je me suis plié un temps à ses attentes...avant de lui proposer d'autres alternatives de voyage....
Tant mieux alors 🙂
Ceci dit, quitte à mettre en garde les lecteurs du Lonely, pourquoi pas leur faire part de vos belles découvertes ? Ce pourrait être bien plus enrichissant !
Ceci dit, quitte à mettre en garde les lecteurs du Lonely, pourquoi pas leur faire part de vos belles découvertes ? Ce pourrait être bien plus enrichissant !
"Au moins une fois par an, ou aussi souvent que possible, allez quelque part où vous n’êtes jamais allé auparavant." Dalai Lama
parce que diffuser trop d'informations amènent à une sur-fréquentation des endroits intéressants qui modifie à terme le comportement des locaux et en fait perdre l'intérêt...l'Inde est gigantesque, il y a tellement d'endroits à découvrir que rien ne vaut mieux que de partir à l'aventure...
Actuellement a Delhi je suis en train de me poser une question terrible : moi et les enqueteurs du LP avons-nous des gouts si opposes ou bien Delhi est-elle vraiment pauvre en bonnes adresses gastronomiques?
Il n'y a pas mort d'homme mais cela fait 2 fois en 3 jours que la super adresse incontournable du LP se revele etre un vulgaire fast food tres tres ordinaire. 😠
Ce guide serait-il ici victime d'une vision trop anglo-saxonne de la gastronomie ? (qu'on ne se meprenne pas, certains anglo-saxon sont de fins gourmets mais j'ai parfois le sentiment qu'ils sont assez rares dans ce cas)
Pour le reste j'ai deja pu noter pas mal d'imprecisions, peut-etre en effet ce guide n'a-t-il pas ete concu avec l'amour du travail bien fait. 🤪
Heu je l'utilise quand meme.😐
Il n'y a pas mort d'homme mais cela fait 2 fois en 3 jours que la super adresse incontournable du LP se revele etre un vulgaire fast food tres tres ordinaire. 😠
Ce guide serait-il ici victime d'une vision trop anglo-saxonne de la gastronomie ? (qu'on ne se meprenne pas, certains anglo-saxon sont de fins gourmets mais j'ai parfois le sentiment qu'ils sont assez rares dans ce cas)
Pour le reste j'ai deja pu noter pas mal d'imprecisions, peut-etre en effet ce guide n'a-t-il pas ete concu avec l'amour du travail bien fait. 🤪
Heu je l'utilise quand meme.😐
"La seule chose dont on soit sûr, en ce qui concerne l'avenir, c'est qu'il n'est jamais conforme à nos prévisions." (Jean Dutourd)
Quel raisonnement implacable !
Et puis, c'est tellement mieux de se plaindre !
Et puis, c'est tellement mieux de se plaindre !
"Au moins une fois par an, ou aussi souvent que possible, allez quelque part où vous n’êtes jamais allé auparavant." Dalai Lama
Coucou,
l'un des gros désavantages du Lonely c'est qu'il n'est pas réédité tous les ans... Du coup, la dernière édition date de septembre 2009 ce qui fait tout de même... 3 ans ! Et à la vitesse à laquelle tout change en Inde... Je crois avoir lu que la nouvelle édition devait paraître prochainement, à moins que cela ne soit déjà fait ?!
Après, en ce qui concerne les méthodes des enquêteurs, que ce soit le Lonely ou un autre guide, j'ai feuilleté un bouquin qui clarifiait certaines "méthodes" employées. Dommage, je ne me rappelle pas le titre mais je tâcherai de remettre la main dessus.
L'auteur (lui-même enquêteur) indiquait par exemple qu'il est impossible de tester tous les restaurants & hôtels cités dans un guide. Donc ce n'est, d'après lui, parfois que du ouï-dire ou bien basé sur les commentaires que font les clients à la sortie du resto.
A méditer !
l'un des gros désavantages du Lonely c'est qu'il n'est pas réédité tous les ans... Du coup, la dernière édition date de septembre 2009 ce qui fait tout de même... 3 ans ! Et à la vitesse à laquelle tout change en Inde... Je crois avoir lu que la nouvelle édition devait paraître prochainement, à moins que cela ne soit déjà fait ?!
Après, en ce qui concerne les méthodes des enquêteurs, que ce soit le Lonely ou un autre guide, j'ai feuilleté un bouquin qui clarifiait certaines "méthodes" employées. Dommage, je ne me rappelle pas le titre mais je tâcherai de remettre la main dessus.
L'auteur (lui-même enquêteur) indiquait par exemple qu'il est impossible de tester tous les restaurants & hôtels cités dans un guide. Donc ce n'est, d'après lui, parfois que du ouï-dire ou bien basé sur les commentaires que font les clients à la sortie du resto.
A méditer !
"Au moins une fois par an, ou aussi souvent que possible, allez quelque part où vous n’êtes jamais allé auparavant." Dalai Lama
Annèe dernière, "lonely planete" Jordanie, nul.Cette annee "petit futé" radjastan, nul.Alors on se débrouille autrement.Il n'y a pas de guide valable mais ça peut dépanner.
On fait la route que l'on se construit.
PS on en avait marre du guide du routard....
Carpe Diem
Faut-il jeter le bébé avec l'eau du bain ?
Je suis en train de me poser la question concernant le LP Chine 🤪
Pour ce qui est de l'Inde c'est déjà fait et j'ai gardé un vieux guide Footprint avec des feuillesd en papier bible. Très efficace. J'utilise aussi les cartes Nelles (pas toujours exactes 🤪 cf la position d'Omkareshwar 🏴☠️)
Pour le reste j'utilise les conseils de ... Ragamuffin 😇
Je suis en train de me poser la question concernant le LP Chine 🤪
Pour ce qui est de l'Inde c'est déjà fait et j'ai gardé un vieux guide Footprint avec des feuillesd en papier bible. Très efficace. J'utilise aussi les cartes Nelles (pas toujours exactes 🤪 cf la position d'Omkareshwar 🏴☠️)
Pour le reste j'utilise les conseils de ... Ragamuffin 😇
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
J'ai ete guide pendant plusieurs annees en Inde et sans toute l'Asie et unanimement, pour moi et mes collegues. le LP (dixit the holy planet) est notre pire ennemi.......ouf, il fallait que je le dise, et ca me fait du bien !😉
ramramindia
Salut du Quebec,
Merci ATTRIBAL pour ton post
j'ai trouve un article intéressant au sujet des destinations touristiques du kerala qui peut être évitera à certains de passer à cote de beaucoup de choses en prenant pour argent comptant tout ce qui est dit dans les guides et les forums. Frenchie expat à Montréal.😉
j'ai trouve un article intéressant au sujet des destinations touristiques du kerala qui peut être évitera à certains de passer à cote de beaucoup de choses en prenant pour argent comptant tout ce qui est dit dans les guides et les forums. Frenchie expat à Montréal.😉
mais cela fait 2 fois en 3 jours que la super adresse incontournable du LP se revele etre un vulgaire fast food tres tres ordinaire.
A l'origine, LP était fait par et pour des Australiens. A chacun sa spécialité : les Australiens jouent bien au rugby, mais question gastronomie, ils se contentent de peu, voire même mangent ce que personne n'oserait mettre dans son frigo sinon entouré de quelques km de film plastique (je pense à la vegemite*). Le LP n'est pas la référence pour les restos, même si parfois il y a de bonnes adresses (il y en a qques unes à Delhi qui y figurent). C'est vrai que dès qu'une gargotte fait des crèpes à la banane, elle reçoit son label LP. Ils doivent en raffoler à la rédaction.
* Aux dires d'un ami qui en avait goûté, "ça ferait dégueuler un rat"
A l'origine, LP était fait par et pour des Australiens. A chacun sa spécialité : les Australiens jouent bien au rugby, mais question gastronomie, ils se contentent de peu, voire même mangent ce que personne n'oserait mettre dans son frigo sinon entouré de quelques km de film plastique (je pense à la vegemite*). Le LP n'est pas la référence pour les restos, même si parfois il y a de bonnes adresses (il y en a qques unes à Delhi qui y figurent). C'est vrai que dès qu'une gargotte fait des crèpes à la banane, elle reçoit son label LP. Ils doivent en raffoler à la rédaction.
* Aux dires d'un ami qui en avait goûté, "ça ferait dégueuler un rat"
ChR
En fait la je faisais allusion a des problemes non lies a la non-reactualisation de l'information, ni meme a l'incapacite des enqueteurs de tout tester.
Je ne pense pas que ce que j'ai decouvert n'etre que des fast-foods etaient hier de venerables restaurants traditionnels, surtout quand ils sont presentes comme des institutions (Wenger's et Nirula's). Je ne crois pas que beaucoup de francais auraient omis de preciser que ce n'etait que des fast-foods.
Quand l'adresse d'une "institution" comprend une erreur d'un kilometre et que l'etablissement ne semble pas avoir demenage depuis sa creation ce n'est pas non plus un probleme d'actualisation (Roshan di kulfi).
Ceci dit pour avoir moi-meme une petite experience en matiere de guide je sais combien il est difficile de donner des informations fiables sur un grand nombre d'etablissements et que cela necessite des moyens humains qu'aucun guide ne peut s'offrir je pense. Enfin il est aussi rare de trouver la perle qui travaillera avec precision et serieux.
Je ne pense pas que ce que j'ai decouvert n'etre que des fast-foods etaient hier de venerables restaurants traditionnels, surtout quand ils sont presentes comme des institutions (Wenger's et Nirula's). Je ne crois pas que beaucoup de francais auraient omis de preciser que ce n'etait que des fast-foods.
Quand l'adresse d'une "institution" comprend une erreur d'un kilometre et que l'etablissement ne semble pas avoir demenage depuis sa creation ce n'est pas non plus un probleme d'actualisation (Roshan di kulfi).
Ceci dit pour avoir moi-meme une petite experience en matiere de guide je sais combien il est difficile de donner des informations fiables sur un grand nombre d'etablissements et que cela necessite des moyens humains qu'aucun guide ne peut s'offrir je pense. Enfin il est aussi rare de trouver la perle qui travaillera avec precision et serieux.
"La seule chose dont on soit sûr, en ce qui concerne l'avenir, c'est qu'il n'est jamais conforme à nos prévisions." (Jean Dutourd)
bonjour!
ha les guides! lonely planet ou le guide du ringard? à quoi ça sert! personnellement je m'en suis vite passé. je trouve que ce n'est pas necéssaire pour trouver un guest house ou un resto. pour la description des lieux "à voir" il y a mille autres manieres de se documenter. si vous enlevez les pages qui ne servent à rien, il vous reste la couverture et les horaires de bus (et encore! est ce vraiment fiable) moi je voyage avec des cartes; j'aime bien savoir ou je suis et me rendre compte des distances. et le meilleur guide que j'ai trouvé, c'est l'habitant. il suffit de demander, l'habitant est le plus à meme de vous renseigner, il connait le bon resto et le guest house cheap & clean en plus c'est un bon exercice linguistique et un excellent moyen d'entrer en communication avec les locaux. combien de touristes passent à coté de quelque chose de fabuleux sans rien voir uniquement parce qu'ils ont le nez dans le guide.
bon à chacun sa méthode, moi c'est la mienne.
bon voyage
yoyo
les meilleurs guides sont les voyageurs que l'on rencontre en route.... en fonction de ce que l'on recherche... et osez sortir des sentiers battus....
bon voyage à tous
les meilleurs guides sont les voyageurs que l'on rencontre en route.... en fonction de ce que l'on recherche... et osez sortir des sentiers battus....
bon voyage à tous
C'est souvent vrai ce que tu dis mais les guides permettent de se faire une idee de la ou on met les pieds.
Et puis les avis des voyageurs croises ici et la sont eux aussi subjectifs, leur avantage est qu'en conseillant un etablissement ils risquent moins d'en faire exploser les tarifs.
Pour ce qui est de sortir des sentiers battus tous les voyageurs ne le font pas, loin de la, et la plupart des guides evoquent davantage de lieux moins connus que la plupart des voyageurs.
Et puis la masse d'info possiblement utile que l'on trouve dans un guide depasse largement tout ce qu'on pourrait noter lors d'une journee passee a questionner un routard vrai de vrai.
C'est souvent vrai ce que tu dis mais les guides permettent de se faire une idee de la ou on met les pieds.
Et puis les avis des voyageurs croises ici et la sont eux aussi subjectifs, leur avantage est qu'en conseillant un etablissement ils risquent moins d'en faire exploser les tarifs.
Pour ce qui est de sortir des sentiers battus tous les voyageurs ne le font pas, loin de la, et la plupart des guides evoquent davantage de lieux moins connus que la plupart des voyageurs.
Et puis la masse d'info possiblement utile que l'on trouve dans un guide depasse largement tout ce qu'on pourrait noter lors d'une journee passee a questionner un routard vrai de vrai.
"La seule chose dont on soit sûr, en ce qui concerne l'avenir, c'est qu'il n'est jamais conforme à nos prévisions." (Jean Dutourd)
Je veux quand meme rappeler que j'ai fait le tour du monde en 1983 1984, j'avais la 1ere edition des guides LP notamment de l'Inde, et cela a ete une veritable revolution, rendant les voyages beaucoup plus faciles (les plans de ville en particulier) et decrivant de nombreux endroits encore inconnus.
Mais je suis d'accord, beaucoup de guides LP (mais pas tous) me decoivent, en particulier pour la selection d'hotels et restaurants. Ils citent surtout les plus populaires et les plus touristiques, ainsi que des haut de gamme. Moi j'aimerais savoir ou on mange on bon thali, pas une pizza, en Inde.
Je suis en train de pêcher toutes des infos qui m’intéressent sur le net, et je les retranscris dans mon journal de voyage, à la fin.
Hébergements, coins sympas, trains etc. Et plus de guide.
J'ai le footprint, je suis super décue et bien sur il pèse une tonne.
(bises à Attribal en passant 😉, ami depuis qques décennies ...)
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Hello,
je suis acutellement a Darjeeling en Inde ou je suis arrivee il y a trois jours. Mon Lonely s'etant perdu a Kathmandou (ds la salle de stockage de ma ghesthouse, erreur de debutante;-) ), je suis arrivee a Darjeeling ss guide... Et bien je tient a preciser que meme si je ne me fie pas plus que ca a ce guide pour ce qui est des restos, et parfois meme des hotels, il donne quand meme des infos precieuses : par exemples une grande partie des hotels qu'il conseille st ds un coin tres different (et beaucoup plus calme) de la ville que l'endroit ou m'a depose la jeep (a Chowk Bazaar). Donc, meme si je ne suis pas forcement leur avis, les conseils de quartier me semblent plutot bon.
Voila, juste un avis sur la question de quelqu'un qui est en plein dans le bain ;-)
je suis acutellement a Darjeeling en Inde ou je suis arrivee il y a trois jours. Mon Lonely s'etant perdu a Kathmandou (ds la salle de stockage de ma ghesthouse, erreur de debutante;-) ), je suis arrivee a Darjeeling ss guide... Et bien je tient a preciser que meme si je ne me fie pas plus que ca a ce guide pour ce qui est des restos, et parfois meme des hotels, il donne quand meme des infos precieuses : par exemples une grande partie des hotels qu'il conseille st ds un coin tres different (et beaucoup plus calme) de la ville que l'endroit ou m'a depose la jeep (a Chowk Bazaar). Donc, meme si je ne suis pas forcement leur avis, les conseils de quartier me semblent plutot bon.
Voila, juste un avis sur la question de quelqu'un qui est en plein dans le bain ;-)
Parles-tu du Saravana bhavan a Connaught Circus. Moi je trouve que c'est quand meme le mailler rapport qualite-prix pour C.C. donc la dessus je soutient le L.P.
Parles-tu du Saravana bhavan a Connaught Circus. Moi je trouve que c'est quand meme le mailler rapport qualite-prix pour C.C. donc la dessus je soutient le L.P.
Mince il faut que je me relise pour repondre. 😛
Je faisais reference au Wenger's et a Nirula dont il n'est pas fait mention qu'il s'agit de fast-food. Pour Nirula je croyais avoir a faire a un grand glacier et pour Wenger's a un restaurant des plus raffines. 🤪
Apres quelques deboires je crois avoir trouve un interet non negligeable aux guides papier sur l'Inde : ils facilitent la concentration d'occidentaux en certains endroits et, automatiquement, reduisent la proportion d'indiens en ces memes lieux. Pourquoi est-ce interessant? Par rapport au gout prononce que semblent avoir de trop nombreux indiens pour le bruit, plus la proportion de clients indiens augmente dans un etablissement donne, plus celui-ci a des chances d'etre bruyant. 😐
Mince il faut que je me relise pour repondre. 😛
Je faisais reference au Wenger's et a Nirula dont il n'est pas fait mention qu'il s'agit de fast-food. Pour Nirula je croyais avoir a faire a un grand glacier et pour Wenger's a un restaurant des plus raffines. 🤪
Apres quelques deboires je crois avoir trouve un interet non negligeable aux guides papier sur l'Inde : ils facilitent la concentration d'occidentaux en certains endroits et, automatiquement, reduisent la proportion d'indiens en ces memes lieux. Pourquoi est-ce interessant? Par rapport au gout prononce que semblent avoir de trop nombreux indiens pour le bruit, plus la proportion de clients indiens augmente dans un etablissement donne, plus celui-ci a des chances d'etre bruyant. 😐
"La seule chose dont on soit sûr, en ce qui concerne l'avenir, c'est qu'il n'est jamais conforme à nos prévisions." (Jean Dutourd)
je crois avoir trouve un interet non negligeable aux guides papier sur l'Inde : ils facilitent la concentration d'occidentaux en certains endroits et, automatiquement, reduisent la proportion d'indiens en ces memes lieux. Pourquoi est-ce interessant? Par rapport au gout prononce que semblent avoir de trop nombreux indiens pour le bruit, plus la proportion de clients indiens augmente dans un etablissement donne, plus celui-ci a des chances d'etre bruyant. 😐
Malaise devant de tels propos... Réminiscences lointaines du... "bruit et de l'odeur"... qui avaient fait couler beaucoup d'encre, il y a quelques années.
Malaise devant de tels propos... Réminiscences lointaines du... "bruit et de l'odeur"... qui avaient fait couler beaucoup d'encre, il y a quelques années.
Malaise devant de tels propos...
Réminiscences lointaines du... "bruit et de l'odeur"... qui avaient fait couler beaucoup d'encre, il y a quelques années.
Desole si ca ne sonne pas politiquement correct. Doit-on feindre d'ignorer que selon les regions et les epoques certaines coutumes et/ou comportements sont plus ou moins frequents?
Il est des comportements que j'ai vu en Inde (de la part d'indiens) que je n'avais que tres tres exceptionnellement constates en France. Faut-il se fermer les yeux et faire semblant de croire qu'indiens et francais baignent dans la meme culture?
Alors oui pas mal d'indiens semblent assez occidentalises (est-ce un bien? je n'en sais rien), oui tous n'abusent pas du klaxon, tous ne hurlent pas au petit matin, tous ne vous font pas degager des guichets pour passer devant vous... Toutefois la proportion de ceux qui ont les comportements precites semble non negligeable (suis-je par exemple le seul a entendre des klaxons en permanence? 🤪 ).
Il n'est pas insense que quelqu'un recherchant le calme puisse privilegier des voisins d'hotel occidentaux. 😐
Desole si ca ne sonne pas politiquement correct. Doit-on feindre d'ignorer que selon les regions et les epoques certaines coutumes et/ou comportements sont plus ou moins frequents?
Il est des comportements que j'ai vu en Inde (de la part d'indiens) que je n'avais que tres tres exceptionnellement constates en France. Faut-il se fermer les yeux et faire semblant de croire qu'indiens et francais baignent dans la meme culture?
Alors oui pas mal d'indiens semblent assez occidentalises (est-ce un bien? je n'en sais rien), oui tous n'abusent pas du klaxon, tous ne hurlent pas au petit matin, tous ne vous font pas degager des guichets pour passer devant vous... Toutefois la proportion de ceux qui ont les comportements precites semble non negligeable (suis-je par exemple le seul a entendre des klaxons en permanence? 🤪 ).
Il n'est pas insense que quelqu'un recherchant le calme puisse privilegier des voisins d'hotel occidentaux. 😐
"La seule chose dont on soit sûr, en ce qui concerne l'avenir, c'est qu'il n'est jamais conforme à nos prévisions." (Jean Dutourd)
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NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
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In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
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From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Bonjour,
Nous nous apprêtons ma femme et moi pour ce circuit du 27 mars au 8 avril.
J'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un est déjà parti avec l'agence Salaun Holidays? combien de personnes en moyenne par groupe ? combien en liquidités ?
Nous avons des doutes sur les vêtements à prendre.....+ draps et taies ?
Et si vous avez des petits tuyaux pour ne pas être trop ennuyé par les mendiants et démarcheurs.
Vos remarques seront toujours bonnes à prendre.
Merci à l'avance.
Bonjour,
je voudrais faire un voyage au Rajasthan et la vallée du Gange: c'est la première fois que je ferais un voyage lointain et pense le faire avec l'agence BTtours à partir de la Belgique (ou Salaün en France). Quelqu'un a-t-il déjà voyagé avec cette agence et peut-il me donner son avis? Je pensais partir vers le mois de novembre, mais certains me disent que, même là, il ferait relativement froid (8°C) est-ce possible?
D'autre part, quelle est le meilleur moyen pour se procurer de l'argent? Peut-on entrer en Inde avec de l'argent liquide sur soi?
Merci pour les réponses.
bonjour à tous,
Je prépare un voyage en Inde du Nord (Rajasthan, vallée du Gange avec Varanasi (Benares)).
Mon agence de voyage me propose deux TO, Asia avec le circuit "Saris et Saddhus" et Salaun avec le circuit "l'inde du nord et la vallée du Gange". J'ai déjà voyagé au Sri Lanka et en Inde du Sud avec Asia. Les voyages se sont très bien passés.
Je ne connais pas Salaun Holidays. Leur circuit semble plus complet avec une journée de détente (16 jours sur place) . Voyage avec Air France.
Est ce qu'un de membre de ce forum a fait le circuit "l'inde du Nord et la vallée du Gange" avec Salaun? Puis je avoir votre avis sur le TO Salaun Holidays?
Merci beaucoup
Je prépare un voyage en Inde du Nord (Rajasthan, vallée du Gange avec Varanasi (Benares)).
Mon agence de voyage me propose deux TO, Asia avec le circuit "Saris et Saddhus" et Salaun avec le circuit "l'inde du nord et la vallée du Gange". J'ai déjà voyagé au Sri Lanka et en Inde du Sud avec Asia. Les voyages se sont très bien passés.
Je ne connais pas Salaun Holidays. Leur circuit semble plus complet avec une journée de détente (16 jours sur place) . Voyage avec Air France.
Est ce qu'un de membre de ce forum a fait le circuit "l'inde du Nord et la vallée du Gange" avec Salaun? Puis je avoir votre avis sur le TO Salaun Holidays?
Merci beaucoup
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.
Hi everyone, Kerala experts (especially Marien!)
In January, I’m planning another trip to Kerala. We’ll arrive in Kochi and travel up the coast by train to Gokarna.
So I’m reaching out to ask if it’s worth stopping for a few days in any of the following spots (not all, of course—just one or two that are really worth it...). From what I’ve seen, few Western tourists stop along this coast, given how little info there is about it:
Mahe, Thalassery, Taliparamba, Nileshwar, Bekal, Kasaragod
I’m not mentioning Kannur because we’ve already been there, specifically Thottada Beach, and we’re familiar with the southern destinations (Trivandrum, Kovalam, etc.).
Thanks for your replies!
Anne
Hello,
My husband and I usually spend a month in January/February in southern India. We end our trip in Gokarna and fly back from Vasco de Gama Airport in Dabolim. So, it might make sense to spend a few days in a nice, quiet spot in southern Goa. Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’d like to head to Upper Dolpo in September/October 2026.
Does anyone know the current state of the roads in the area?
Specifically for getting from Saldang to Dho Tarap.
Also, what do you think about the weather between September 20th and October 20th?
Any tips would be much appreciated.
I’ve already checked out the info on Martinpierre’s site—it’s super detailed about the region, but the details are a bit outdated.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Thierry





