Inde: à quel(s) guide(s) "papier" se fier pour les hôtels?
by Noham
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour !
D'aucuns crient : Haro sur le routard ! D'autres, le considèrent comme une Bible pour les hôtels. Certains recommandent "le Petit Futé". Puis vient Lonely Planet, aux avis et conseils très "méricains". Ce dernier vient de sortir une nouvelle édition préparée par une équipe entièrement différente. Résultat, beaucoup d'avis, tant sur les sites que sur les hôtels, sont complètement en contradiction avec l'édition précédente. On ne sait plus qui croire. Ne s'agit-il pas d'une question de personnes ?
En conclusion, à quel(s) guide(s) "papier" se fier pour les hôtels ? Tout cela n'est-il, une fois encore, qu'une façon de "faire de l'argent" ?
Faudrait peut-être imprimer les discussions (les plus récentes) de voyageforum.com ?
Faudrait peut-être imprimer les discussions (les plus récentes) de voyageforum.com ?
C'est bien sûr ce qu'il faut faire et ce que je fais depuis longtemps. Jamais un guide ne sera aussi à jour que les infos de VF.
C'est bien sûr ce qu'il faut faire et ce que je fais depuis longtemps. Jamais un guide ne sera aussi à jour que les infos de VF.
Entre le moment où le guide est rédigé, et celui où, enfin imprimé, il sortira dans les librairies, il se passe plusieurs mois, d'où le caractère inévitablement périmé d'un certain pourcentage d'infos.
Ensuite à toi de savoir quel style te convient le mieux pour ce qui ne concerne pas les infos sur les hotels, c'est à dire les infos culturelles, et la perception du pays: le style encyclopédique, et neutre politiquement, avec de belles photos en prime, du Lonely Planet? le style approximatif, juge à l'emporte-pièce, et donneur de leçons de morale soixante-huitardes, du Routard?
Il y a aussi le Rough Guide, uniquement en anglais, avec également des renseignement pratiques extrèmement détaillés.
Ensuite à toi de savoir quel style te convient le mieux pour ce qui ne concerne pas les infos sur les hotels, c'est à dire les infos culturelles, et la perception du pays: le style encyclopédique, et neutre politiquement, avec de belles photos en prime, du Lonely Planet? le style approximatif, juge à l'emporte-pièce, et donneur de leçons de morale soixante-huitardes, du Routard?
Il y a aussi le Rough Guide, uniquement en anglais, avec également des renseignement pratiques extrèmement détaillés.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
non, non, ce qui m'intéresse c'est d'avoir une fourchette de prix, que je majore de 20% environ, afin de budgétiser et de voir ce qu'il va me falloir engranger pour un voyage de presque 4 mois sans trop me priver ni passer mon temps à radiner. Merci qd même pour les infos. Je préfère manger des patates AVANT et ne pas me priver au cours du voyage et ne pas decendre dans des taudis sordides
Bonjour,
j'ai voyagé en Inde dernièrement avec les 2 guides que tu cites. Aucun n'est parfait (ce serait trop beau), après c'est une question d'approche.
Le routard est très basique, sans chichi, mais bien placé pour les conseils de logements ou visites.
Le lonely est mieux conçu, plus agréable d'utilisation, mais touche une clientèle plus large, puisque à diffusion en plusieurs langues.
L'idéal serait d'emmener les 2 !!, en sachant également qu'il n'est pas rare de retrouver les mêmes hôtels dans les 2 guides.
Mais toujours considérer les infos données dans les guides comme relatives, la réalité est parfois autre que dans les livres. De plus, attends-toi, le plus souvent, à trouver des prix supérieurs à ceux annoncés.
Cordialement
j'ai voyagé en Inde dernièrement avec les 2 guides que tu cites. Aucun n'est parfait (ce serait trop beau), après c'est une question d'approche.
Le routard est très basique, sans chichi, mais bien placé pour les conseils de logements ou visites.
Le lonely est mieux conçu, plus agréable d'utilisation, mais touche une clientèle plus large, puisque à diffusion en plusieurs langues.
L'idéal serait d'emmener les 2 !!, en sachant également qu'il n'est pas rare de retrouver les mêmes hôtels dans les 2 guides.
Mais toujours considérer les infos données dans les guides comme relatives, la réalité est parfois autre que dans les livres. De plus, attends-toi, le plus souvent, à trouver des prix supérieurs à ceux annoncés.
Cordialement
Personnellement j'emporte le GDR et LP, les infos sont complémentaires.
C'est vrai qu'au niveau des hôtels les prix évoluent au même rythme que le développement du pays.
Un conseil : si vous vous trouvez en basse saison, ou que vous constatez que l'hôtel n'est pas complet et si vous avez des talents de négociateur, vous devriez pouvoir négocier le tarif -25% à -50% (c'est ce que j'ai fait), donc ne pas tenir trop compte des prix annoncés sur les guides.
Tu ne pourras jamais éliminer le risque d'erreurs. Il faut bien qu'il reste une part d'aventures dans le voyage, même à notre époque où l'on recherche le risque zéro...
En attendant le risque zéro, les infos les plus à jour seront sur VF 😏
En attendant le risque zéro, les infos les plus à jour seront sur VF 😏
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
le routard part parfois dans de grandes envolées lyriques et tu vas sur place et tu as du mal à capter le "charme" dont ont te parlait.... le lonely est moins fun dans son style mais quand même plus fiable d'après mon expérience (edition du sud et générale sur l'inde)
et bien sur plein de bons plans qui ne figurent nulle part sur ce forum grâce à de sgens qui sont sur place, plein de bonne surprises assurées...
Comme il y a de plus en plus de gens procéduriers qui sont prêts à porter plainte dès qu'ils glissent sur une peau de banane, il est normal que les guides assurent leurs arrières en donnant un maximum de mises en garde.
D'autre part, il y a des voyageurs moins chanceux que toi, qui ont eu des malheurs qu'ils auraient pu éviter en suivant certains conseils élémentaires relevant du bon sens, donnés par les guides précités.
D'autre part, il y a des voyageurs moins chanceux que toi, qui ont eu des malheurs qu'ils auraient pu éviter en suivant certains conseils élémentaires relevant du bon sens, donnés par les guides précités.
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Bonjour,
Je vais apporter ma petite contribution à cette discussion.
J'aime le GDR et le LP pour presque tout sauf pour ... les hôtels. Je m'explique : chaque fois que je voyage, je choisis des hôtels dits de catégorie moyenne (environ € 50, - la nuit). Dans cette rubrique, les hôtels sont selon le GDR et le LP corrects voire très corrects.
C'est alors que je me tourne vers www.tripadvisor.com et www.asiarooms.com pour lire les commentaires relatifs aux hôtels cités par le GDR et le LP. 9 fois sur 10, ces commentaires ne sont pas aussi positifs que dans les guides papier.
Dès lors, je choisis quasi toujours mes hôtels en fonction des commentaires de www.tripadvisor.com et de www.asiarooms.com. De la sorte, j'espère limiter les risques. A ce jour, en faisant de la sorte, je ne me suis jamais trompé. Il faut dire que les commentaires sur ces sites sont souvent très tès récents (1 mois au maximum dans beaucoup de cas). Cela aide.
J'emporte quand même le LP et le GDR pour les infos pratiques et les restos (pour cela, le GDR est souvent très bon).
Ce message n'engage que moi, bien entendu 😉.
Je dis cela car si j'apprécie Voyage Forum, je dois déplorer que certains amis voyageurs ont rapidement tendance à faire l'éloge de certains hôtels qui pour moi n'ont d'hôtel que le nom. Ici aussi, c'est chacun sont truc et cela n'engage que moi.
Bon séjour 🙂
Je vais apporter ma petite contribution à cette discussion.
J'aime le GDR et le LP pour presque tout sauf pour ... les hôtels. Je m'explique : chaque fois que je voyage, je choisis des hôtels dits de catégorie moyenne (environ € 50, - la nuit). Dans cette rubrique, les hôtels sont selon le GDR et le LP corrects voire très corrects.
C'est alors que je me tourne vers www.tripadvisor.com et www.asiarooms.com pour lire les commentaires relatifs aux hôtels cités par le GDR et le LP. 9 fois sur 10, ces commentaires ne sont pas aussi positifs que dans les guides papier.
Dès lors, je choisis quasi toujours mes hôtels en fonction des commentaires de www.tripadvisor.com et de www.asiarooms.com. De la sorte, j'espère limiter les risques. A ce jour, en faisant de la sorte, je ne me suis jamais trompé. Il faut dire que les commentaires sur ces sites sont souvent très tès récents (1 mois au maximum dans beaucoup de cas). Cela aide.
J'emporte quand même le LP et le GDR pour les infos pratiques et les restos (pour cela, le GDR est souvent très bon).
Ce message n'engage que moi, bien entendu 😉.
Je dis cela car si j'apprécie Voyage Forum, je dois déplorer que certains amis voyageurs ont rapidement tendance à faire l'éloge de certains hôtels qui pour moi n'ont d'hôtel que le nom. Ici aussi, c'est chacun sont truc et cela n'engage que moi.
Bon séjour 🙂
"Les relations, c'est comme l'argent, on n'en a jamais assez"
Je suis en train de me promener sur tripadvisor. Non merci les hôtels entre 100 et 300 € la nuit, voire un à 1164 € ne sont pas pour moi. Je ne suis pas un prince arabe !
D'ailleurs les hôtels situés dans la gamme des prix du routard et du LP ne figurent même pas sur tripadvisor. Décidément, je ne suis pas "la bonne personne". Je pense que je ne suis pas le seul dans ce cas sur ce forum. Je me demande d'ailleurs, sans vouloir être méchant, si tu ne t'es pas un peu "égaré" parmi nous... Ton pseudo ne serait pas plutôt "Nabab" ?
Si je dis que je ne veux pas dépasser les € 50, cela veut dire que je ne cherche pas d'hôtels à € 100. Et si je te dis que je cherche d'abord les hôtels dans le LP et dans le GDR pour ensuite comparer avec ce qui est dit sur Tripadvisor et Asiarooms, c'est que c'est possible et que je le fais.
Et ce sont des hôtels à maximum € 50, - la nuit.
Il est certain que tu ne trouveras pas sur ces sites des hotels à € 10, - la nuit.
Enfin, je ne me sens pas égaré sur ce site. comme je l'ai écrit, à chacun sa vision des choses. Je respecte la tienne et celle des autres, tu peux aussi respecter la mienne.
Ce n'est pas parce que je choisis des hotels à maximum € 50, la nuit que je suis un bourgeois ou que je n'ai pas ma place sur VF.
Et ce sont des hôtels à maximum € 50, - la nuit.
Il est certain que tu ne trouveras pas sur ces sites des hotels à € 10, - la nuit.
Enfin, je ne me sens pas égaré sur ce site. comme je l'ai écrit, à chacun sa vision des choses. Je respecte la tienne et celle des autres, tu peux aussi respecter la mienne.
Ce n'est pas parce que je choisis des hotels à maximum € 50, la nuit que je suis un bourgeois ou que je n'ai pas ma place sur VF.
"Les relations, c'est comme l'argent, on n'en a jamais assez"
Bonjour Noham,
Voilà comment tu peux procéder : part avec un Lonely ou autre pour un début. Ils se valent tous. Les guests sympas, ce n’est pas ce qui manque en Inde, selon les quartiers, t’as que ça. Alors vraiment, t’as tous les choix, suffit de faire un peu le tour et de voir par toi-même.
Je suis partie 9 mois en Asie du sud est, sans savoir réellement où j’allais atterrir le lendemain. Je suis partie avec un bouquin et pour moi c’était le Lonely. Après 2 mois en Inde, je m’en servais uniquement pour les sites à visiter, les transports, pour les plans des villes, bref, tout sauf les hôtels !(échaudée après avoir lu : « Bundi, charmante petite bourgade de campagne, très calme » et que je me suis retrouvée au moyen âge dans un truc sordide de malade !!! Mais ça arrive, c’est ça aussi le voyage !)
Les guides m’ont servi quand j’arrivais au milieu de la nuit après un long voyage, et là, je choisissais une guest pas trop cher du guide, juste pour donner une adresse au chauffeur et y passer une nuit. Ensuite, si elle ne me convenait pas, je partais dès le lendemain matin faire un peu le tour des environs et je choisissais celle qui me paraissait la plus sympa, tant au niveau prix, qu’au niveau placement et qu’au niveau perso. La plupart de celles que j’ai trouvé et qui étaient top n’étaient sur aucun guide. Et ça, dans tous les pays !
Il faut savoir que les guides sont aussi un peu des « parcs à français », des « parcs à anglo » etc... En fait, un guide anglais ne te donnera pas les mêmes hôtels qu’un guide français, c’est pour ça que tu verras que certains hôtels sont remplis d’allemands, d’autres, d’Australien etc, puisqu’ils suivent tous leur guide !
Franchement, vas y est fais toi ta propre opinion. Au niveau prix, de toutes façons, tu auras vraiment le choix. Faut un peu négocier, dans les livres y a un prix, sur place, un autre. Normal, la vie augmente pour tout le monde !
Voilà comment tu peux procéder : part avec un Lonely ou autre pour un début. Ils se valent tous. Les guests sympas, ce n’est pas ce qui manque en Inde, selon les quartiers, t’as que ça. Alors vraiment, t’as tous les choix, suffit de faire un peu le tour et de voir par toi-même.
Je suis partie 9 mois en Asie du sud est, sans savoir réellement où j’allais atterrir le lendemain. Je suis partie avec un bouquin et pour moi c’était le Lonely. Après 2 mois en Inde, je m’en servais uniquement pour les sites à visiter, les transports, pour les plans des villes, bref, tout sauf les hôtels !(échaudée après avoir lu : « Bundi, charmante petite bourgade de campagne, très calme » et que je me suis retrouvée au moyen âge dans un truc sordide de malade !!! Mais ça arrive, c’est ça aussi le voyage !)
Les guides m’ont servi quand j’arrivais au milieu de la nuit après un long voyage, et là, je choisissais une guest pas trop cher du guide, juste pour donner une adresse au chauffeur et y passer une nuit. Ensuite, si elle ne me convenait pas, je partais dès le lendemain matin faire un peu le tour des environs et je choisissais celle qui me paraissait la plus sympa, tant au niveau prix, qu’au niveau placement et qu’au niveau perso. La plupart de celles que j’ai trouvé et qui étaient top n’étaient sur aucun guide. Et ça, dans tous les pays !
Il faut savoir que les guides sont aussi un peu des « parcs à français », des « parcs à anglo » etc... En fait, un guide anglais ne te donnera pas les mêmes hôtels qu’un guide français, c’est pour ça que tu verras que certains hôtels sont remplis d’allemands, d’autres, d’Australien etc, puisqu’ils suivent tous leur guide !
Franchement, vas y est fais toi ta propre opinion. Au niveau prix, de toutes façons, tu auras vraiment le choix. Faut un peu négocier, dans les livres y a un prix, sur place, un autre. Normal, la vie augmente pour tout le monde !
"Tous les Paradis du Monde se trouvent aux milieux des Raisons d'Etre..."
Désolé, si je t'ai vexé, chacun est libre de se promener où il veut, en effet. C'est une question de "psychologie". On ne "conseille" pas un site pour rupin à un routard, ou on essaie de le "situer" avant, en lui demandant quel genre d'hébergement il recherche. Je ne parle pas de tes goûts et de tes possibilités pécuniaires, (tant mieux pour toi si tu les as), mais des sites indiqués. Le site advisor (je ne suis pas allé voir l'autre) est suffisamment clair (classement par pays, puis par ville) pour que je constate que les hôtels de LP et GDR, des villes où je compte me rendre, n'y figurent pas et qu'à part de rarissimes exceptions, la fourchette des prix se situe entre 95 et 300 euros la nuit. Et j'affirme à nouveau qu'un hôtel à 50 euros la nuit n'est pas un hôtel "moyen". D'ailleurs, je ne te juges pas puisque je vais m'offrir 17 nuits sur 105 dans ce type d'hôtel. Ce qui sera pour moi, le "grand luxe", histoire de me faire plaisir de temps à autre, selon les lieux. Pour ma part, il me semble que si je ne descendais QUE dans ces hôtels au cours de mon voyage, je me priverais de nombreux contacts enrichissants et que j'aurais une fausse vision du tourisme en Inde. Mais, comme tu le dis dans ton premier post, c'est "chacunson truc (...) et cela n'engage que moi". Un forum, ça sert aussi à échanger des idées. Tu n'es pas provocateur ni insolent, je n'ai aucun droit de te juger. Pardon, si ma réaction première a été un peu vive et maladroite.
Bonjour et merci beaucoup Nath06 pour ce long message plein de conseils qui me vont droit au coeur. Je vous remercie tous sincèrement. Ce qui semble avoir échappé à tout le monde c'est ma motivation principale. Je ne recherche pas un guide à emporter, ni pour me dire où aller, dans quelle ville, dans quel site. Il y a déjà des mois que je veux réaliser ce voyage et il y a longtemps que j'ai lu énormément de guides, de livres, de littérature indienne pour savoir ce que j'ai envie de voir et de faire. Non, j'y pars pour presque 4 mois, et je veux avoir à l'avance une idée du budget à prévoir pour cette durée en ce qui concerne un hébergement moyen et confortable. Je ne tiens pas, une fois sur place à m'apercevoir que je n'ai pas assez de fric et que je dois rentrer dare dare chez moi ! Je recherche des fourchettes de prix, uniquement parce que je ne roule pas sur l'or et que j'ai besoin de savoir à l'avance ce que je dois économiser AVANT. Les guides sont donc une indication. Mais je crois que je dois pas être comme tout le monde... Bien sûr les surprises du voyage et l'aventure, on verra sur place. Rien n'est pareil pour personne. Je suis aussi complètement ignare au sujet des prix tant de la nourriture dans les restaus, que sur les marchés et dans les boutiques, sans parler des transports. Je ne dois pas être clair dans ma demande de renseignements.
Je me demande simplement si je dois prévoir 2000, 3000, 10000 euros (mon voyage ne serait pas possible alors, dans ce dernier cas !!!) pour une durée de 105 jours...
Encore merci à tous !
A questions précises, réponses précises.
Lors de notre voyage en 2005, nous avons payé par chambre d'hôtel de catégorie moyenne de 100 à 300 RPS, et nous sommes allés exceptionnellement jusqu'à 500 RPS.
Pour les repas, 50 RPS en moyenne par personne.
Pour les autres dépenses, tout dépend de ta façon de voyager.
Je me demande d'ailleurs, sans vouloir être méchant, si tu ne t'es pas un peu "égaré" parmi nous... Ton pseudo ne serait pas plutôt "Nabab" ?
Réflexion trop courante sur ce forum qui, contrairement à ce qu'on pourrait imaginer, n'est pas la propriété des routards. En fait, ce sentiment vient surtout du fait que ces voyageurs - qui vomissent ceux qui dépensent plus de 200, 100, 50 voire 25 euros pour une nuit - sont des gros posteurs sur VF mais ils ne sont pas les plus nombreux, ils sont tout simplement les plus "bruyants" ! Un peu comme un fumeur dans un groupe de 20 non fumeurs se remarque immédiatement alors qu'un non fumeur dans un groupe de 20 fumeurs ne se remarque pas...
Ma femme et moi ne sommes pas des nababs ni des princes Arabes mais lorsque nous voyageons, notre budget hôtel (pour une famille de 4) va de 200 à 1000 euros par nuit... c'est beaucoup... oui... mais c'est moins que le budget cigarette d'un couple fumeur... chacun met son argent où il veut... nous ne fumons pas, nous ne buvons pas de café, nous ne buvons aucune forme d'alcool, nous ne nous droguons... mais nous adorons les petits hôtels luxueux... comme c'est cher nous partons moins longtemps... c'est un choix... c'est assez navrant de lire sans cesse des remarques désobligeantes sur ce type de voyageurs...
Réflexion trop courante sur ce forum qui, contrairement à ce qu'on pourrait imaginer, n'est pas la propriété des routards. En fait, ce sentiment vient surtout du fait que ces voyageurs - qui vomissent ceux qui dépensent plus de 200, 100, 50 voire 25 euros pour une nuit - sont des gros posteurs sur VF mais ils ne sont pas les plus nombreux, ils sont tout simplement les plus "bruyants" ! Un peu comme un fumeur dans un groupe de 20 non fumeurs se remarque immédiatement alors qu'un non fumeur dans un groupe de 20 fumeurs ne se remarque pas...
Ma femme et moi ne sommes pas des nababs ni des princes Arabes mais lorsque nous voyageons, notre budget hôtel (pour une famille de 4) va de 200 à 1000 euros par nuit... c'est beaucoup... oui... mais c'est moins que le budget cigarette d'un couple fumeur... chacun met son argent où il veut... nous ne fumons pas, nous ne buvons pas de café, nous ne buvons aucune forme d'alcool, nous ne nous droguons... mais nous adorons les petits hôtels luxueux... comme c'est cher nous partons moins longtemps... c'est un choix... c'est assez navrant de lire sans cesse des remarques désobligeantes sur ce type de voyageurs...
C'est alors que je me tourne vers www.tripadvisor.com et www.asiarooms.com pour lire les commentaires relatifs aux hôtels cités par le GDR et le LP. 9 fois sur 10, ces commentaires ne sont pas aussi positifs que dans les guides papier.
Dès lors, je choisis quasi toujours mes hôtels en fonction des commentaires de www.tripadvisor.com et de www.asiarooms.com.
J'ai la même démarche pour les hôtels "luxe" que j'aime. Ce que j'apprécie surtout ce sont les photos médiocres des voyageurs qui te montrent le pire de ce que tu peux voir sur place et que le site internet de l'hôtel ou du voyagiste ne te montrait pas...
Dès lors, je choisis quasi toujours mes hôtels en fonction des commentaires de www.tripadvisor.com et de www.asiarooms.com.
J'ai la même démarche pour les hôtels "luxe" que j'aime. Ce que j'apprécie surtout ce sont les photos médiocres des voyageurs qui te montrent le pire de ce que tu peux voir sur place et que le site internet de l'hôtel ou du voyagiste ne te montrait pas...
De rien, de rien ! Après 5 mois en Inde, il me semble que des guests à 10 € environ sont un bon compromis Q/P. Parfois plus, parfois moins. Plus, c'est quand t'en as vraiment marre et que tu as besoin de vraiment te reposer (50 € mon max à Calcutta à la fin). Sinon, parfois tu tombes dans de toutes petites chambres mais charmantes, d'autres vraiment pourries et là tu t'en vas en courant. Manger à 50 roupies pour moi, ce n'est pas suffisant car je fais 3 repas par jours ! Avant mon départ, j'ai fais un régime hyper calorique (4 kilos en plus au cas ou !) car tout le monde me disait que j'allais être malade etc etc. Et j'ai pris 6 kilos là bas !!! (que j'ai perdu en birmanie et en thailande !) Mais bon, je sais pas pourquoi je te parle de ça...ah oui ! Pour te dire que la bouffe est bonne en Inde ! A la limite, un hôtel moyen compense un bon restau de temps en temps dans les hôtels dits de luxe ! Si tu n’as pas les sous pour y dormir, au moins tu passes une soirée de rêve ! Et se sont les seuls endroits où tu peux boire un verre de vin (tu verras, au bout de 3 mois, ça va commencer à te manquer !)
Sinon, perso, j’ai trouvé ton message clair.
Tu irais où sinon ?
"Tous les Paradis du Monde se trouvent aux milieux des Raisons d'Etre..."
Manger à 50 roupies pour moi, ce n'est pas suffisant car je fais 3 repas par jours !
j'ai écrit 50 RPS par repas, moi aussi je fais 3 repas par jour, donc ça fait 150 RPS par jour
j'ai écrit 50 RPS par repas, moi aussi je fais 3 repas par jour, donc ça fait 150 RPS par jour
Etonné que personne ne te conseille le Footprint... Malheureusement, Gallimard ne le distribue plus ( pas de version française pour l'inde il me semble ), donc essayer d'autres réseaux de distribution étrangers peut-être...
Je l'ai trouvé bien plus pratique que le LP par exemple, de plus les hôtels qu'il citait concordaient souvent avec la réalité.
Un très bon guide également pour les coins bouffe.
Il est exact que le Footprint sur le Rajasthan est très bien fait (comme l'est celui sur le Pérou).
"Les relations, c'est comme l'argent, on n'en a jamais assez"
Bonjour, j'ai peut être mal lu mais je vois tout le monde parler soit du routard soit du lonely, personnellement j'utilise toujours le petit futé et je n'ai jamais eu vraiment à m'en plaindre.
Vous en pensez quoi de celui la?
Qu'importe notre avis si tu en es satisfaite ?
Le guide n'est pas le plus important, mais plutôt la manière de l'utiliser.
j'utilise toujours le petit futé et je n'ai jamais eu vraiment à m'en plaindre.
Vous en pensez quoi de celui la?
Tout dépent à quoi te sert un guide papier, si c'est pour le prix et la qualité des hotels, le futé est aussi peu à jour que les autres, évidemment. Pour nous, un guide papier sert avant tout à "envisager" un itinéraire dans un pays, dans une région, meme si une fois sur place, cela évolu sensiblement, et pour cela le petit futé n'est vraiment pas à la hauteur, il survole les endroits, reste trop dans les grands axes, n'est pas assez détaillé. Bref, pas à la hauteur le p'tit fut-fut ...
Tout dépent à quoi te sert un guide papier, si c'est pour le prix et la qualité des hotels, le futé est aussi peu à jour que les autres, évidemment. Pour nous, un guide papier sert avant tout à "envisager" un itinéraire dans un pays, dans une région, meme si une fois sur place, cela évolu sensiblement, et pour cela le petit futé n'est vraiment pas à la hauteur, il survole les endroits, reste trop dans les grands axes, n'est pas assez détaillé. Bref, pas à la hauteur le p'tit fut-fut ...
Bonjour,
J'ai amassé une quinzaine de guides sur l'Inde, tous les amis qui sont venus me voir m'ayant laissé le leur.
J'aime bien le petit futé pour son poids plus léger que les autres, et les dernières éditions du Lonely en anglais, car elles contiennent des info très pratiques et bien organisées.
Mais à n'en prendre qu'un, ma sélection est vite faite : le plus vieux Lonely que j'ai. Même si les prix ne sont pas à jour, les lieux touristiques n'ont pas changé. L'avantage de ce guide, c'est qu'il contient toutes les petites villes qui peuvent servir d'étape, alors que les nouveaux guides plus commerciaux n'ont gardé que l'essentiel.
Pour les prix des GH, on en a déjà parlé de toute façon : ils varient beaucoup trop vite, selon la tête du client (en fait son age, mais je ne voudrais choquer personne 😛), la saison, le taux de remplissage, etc. Peu d'intérêt à se baser sur les prix écrits, donc. On trouve toujours en fonction de son budget, au final !
J'ai amassé une quinzaine de guides sur l'Inde, tous les amis qui sont venus me voir m'ayant laissé le leur.
J'aime bien le petit futé pour son poids plus léger que les autres, et les dernières éditions du Lonely en anglais, car elles contiennent des info très pratiques et bien organisées.
Mais à n'en prendre qu'un, ma sélection est vite faite : le plus vieux Lonely que j'ai. Même si les prix ne sont pas à jour, les lieux touristiques n'ont pas changé. L'avantage de ce guide, c'est qu'il contient toutes les petites villes qui peuvent servir d'étape, alors que les nouveaux guides plus commerciaux n'ont gardé que l'essentiel.
Pour les prix des GH, on en a déjà parlé de toute façon : ils varient beaucoup trop vite, selon la tête du client (en fait son age, mais je ne voudrais choquer personne 😛), la saison, le taux de remplissage, etc. Peu d'intérêt à se baser sur les prix écrits, donc. On trouve toujours en fonction de son budget, au final !
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Bonjour,
Je reviens d'Inde du nord avec le Lonely planet en poche, il est très bien fait.
Tout ce qui est noté dans le guide et que j'ai vécu n'est pas contradictoire.
Avant mon départ, je sélectionne toujours le guide qui me semble être le mieux adapté à mes besoins, je suis ègalement un adepte du Routard ou du petit futé.
Selon la destination, j'opte pour celui qui me semble être le plus précis.
Le voyage en Inde demande un peu plus de préparation, c'est un voyage totalement dépaysant et tellement en décalage avec notre mode de vie aseptisée à l'occidentale.
NB:Sur les forum certaines personnes disent n'importe quoi sur les Hôtels :si on a peur de ne pas retrouver sa couette ou ses charentaises aux pieds de son lit, mieux vaut ne pas quitter la France.
En Inde, la conception de l'hygiène et du confort n'est pas la même que la notre, il y a des Hôtels très confortables, et, d'autres à éviter.
Bon choix, Dominique
Selon ta destination, je pourrais te donner des conseils sur les hôtels où nous avons logés.
Namaste, Dominique
Namaste, Dominique
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So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
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So, I see quite a few offers around the lake (Lakeside?), but every time I check what it looks like, the streets seem really uninviting. It’s kind of like a construction site with buildings everywhere… Nothing like Bhaktapur (for example) or even Thamel, where the streets seem way more pleasant.
Could anyone give me some advice?
Also, I don’t really get the impression that Pokhara is worth a visit of several days. The lake, sure, but once you’ve seen it—what else is there?
Hi there.
I’m used to traveling around Asia, especially India, and I’d love to explore Nepal for about two weeks, stopping in Calcutta.
Backpacking trip, local transport.
Departing from Lyon.
If you’ve got an adventurous spirit and don’t mind taking it slow, get in touch!
I don’t do treks, but I’m a strong walker.
See you soon
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Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
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Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
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For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
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Hi there.
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We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
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Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
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After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
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As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
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As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
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Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
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NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.




