Trek au Ladakh en juin 2010
by Matthnorm
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous souhaitons effectuer un treck en couple, dans le Ladakh du 1 juin au 20 juin après avoir épluché le forum, ma question se porte sur la météo en ce début juin dans cette region et les trecks rèalisables en fonction de celle ci. Nous avons sélectionné quelques trecks : LAMAYURU/PADUM pour son coté beau et sauvage ; DARSHA/PADUM pour son coté plus "simple". Puis il y a la zone Rumtse et le lac de tsomoriri qui nous attirent aussi. Bref quelques idées mais rien de bien concret.
Si certains avaient par leurs expériences des conseils merci.
Bonjour
j'ai fait les 2 treks dont vous parlez, mais dans le sens Padum-Lamayuru (que nous avions rallongé au-delà) et Pdum-darsha ; le premier est plus physique car on traverse les vallées, donc on descend et on monte parfois plusieurs fois dans la même journée ; le second est plus "tranquille", peut-être légèrement moins impressionnant car moins de cols.
Les 2 sont beaux ...
je ne connais pas les treks vers tsomoriri.
Bon voyage !
Bon voyage !
Bonjour
Partez vous en avion pour leh ou en bus ? car à cette période, c'est souvent nuageux et comme vous savez certainement LEH n'a pas de tour de contrôle donc si mauvais temps ils n'atterrissent pas ... en 2007, nous sommes arrivés vers le 28 juin, et ce n'est que le 3ème vol DELHI LEH ou nous avons pu atterir car les conditions climatiques était mauvaises et le pilote a essayé d'atterrir plusieurs fois, en vain donc retour sur DELHI 2 fois de suite et la 3ème était la bonne... donc un conseil déjà, prendre le 1er vol a 5h30... si jamais vous devez vous réinscrire sur un autre vol.... de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
Pour ce qui est des treks, en 2005 nous avons fait padum lamayuru, en 10 jours, assez soutenu quand même, 2 cols assez hauts a franchir et de bons dénivelés. Nous sommes également allés dans la région du tsomoriri, vous pouvez y faire le tour du lac en 5 ou 6 jours me semble t'il... très belle région, désertique, peu de mondes... la vallée de la nubra est jolie aussi mais il y a le col a plus de 5000 m a passer ce que je vous déconseille en début de séjour... en 2007, nous y sommes retournés, et avons fait le petit trek de likir à Khalsé en 4 jours histoire de s'acclimater et de chilling au tso kar en 10 jours environ, trés beau trek dans la vallée de la markha au début puis bifurcation a Hankar pour le Zalung karpo la, un trek moins fréquenté que chilling - hemis par exemple... le col est a 5200 m mais il se fait assez bien... montée progressive et longue... la descente dans la vallée du rusphu est magnifique, sauvage, mais la il vous faut la tente, la bouffe etc.. pas de lodges ni de tentes d'approvisionnement.. rencontres avec des nomades sur le plateau du changtang et l'arrivée au tso kar majestueuse... j'ai bcp aimé !
Nous connaissons un ami la bas qui est guide de montagne si jamais, il faut compter 50euros par jour par pers tout compris (pension complète, trajets en voiture etc..hotel a leh etc..) a savoir que pour le tsomoriri la nubra, le pangong tso il faut un permis et c'est un peu plus $$$ !
voilà... espérant avoir répondu a ta question... si tu en as d'autres n'hésites pas
Partez vous en avion pour leh ou en bus ? car à cette période, c'est souvent nuageux et comme vous savez certainement LEH n'a pas de tour de contrôle donc si mauvais temps ils n'atterrissent pas ... en 2007, nous sommes arrivés vers le 28 juin, et ce n'est que le 3ème vol DELHI LEH ou nous avons pu atterir car les conditions climatiques était mauvaises et le pilote a essayé d'atterrir plusieurs fois, en vain donc retour sur DELHI 2 fois de suite et la 3ème était la bonne... donc un conseil déjà, prendre le 1er vol a 5h30... si jamais vous devez vous réinscrire sur un autre vol.... de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
Pour ce qui est des treks, en 2005 nous avons fait padum lamayuru, en 10 jours, assez soutenu quand même, 2 cols assez hauts a franchir et de bons dénivelés. Nous sommes également allés dans la région du tsomoriri, vous pouvez y faire le tour du lac en 5 ou 6 jours me semble t'il... très belle région, désertique, peu de mondes... la vallée de la nubra est jolie aussi mais il y a le col a plus de 5000 m a passer ce que je vous déconseille en début de séjour... en 2007, nous y sommes retournés, et avons fait le petit trek de likir à Khalsé en 4 jours histoire de s'acclimater et de chilling au tso kar en 10 jours environ, trés beau trek dans la vallée de la markha au début puis bifurcation a Hankar pour le Zalung karpo la, un trek moins fréquenté que chilling - hemis par exemple... le col est a 5200 m mais il se fait assez bien... montée progressive et longue... la descente dans la vallée du rusphu est magnifique, sauvage, mais la il vous faut la tente, la bouffe etc.. pas de lodges ni de tentes d'approvisionnement.. rencontres avec des nomades sur le plateau du changtang et l'arrivée au tso kar majestueuse... j'ai bcp aimé !
Nous connaissons un ami la bas qui est guide de montagne si jamais, il faut compter 50euros par jour par pers tout compris (pension complète, trajets en voiture etc..hotel a leh etc..) a savoir que pour le tsomoriri la nubra, le pangong tso il faut un permis et c'est un peu plus $$$ !
voilà... espérant avoir répondu a ta question... si tu en as d'autres n'hésites pas
J'ai effectue plusieurs treks dans cette region, je vous confirme que c'est une bonne periode, car il y a un peu moins de monde. Effectivement, pour tsomoriri cela occasionnera bcp plus de frais.
il y a beaucoup de prestataires a leh pour effectuer ces treks, il est toujours preferable de passer par eux directement, et d'essayer d'en trouver qui ont une gestion assez 'equitable' avec leur equipe....
Je suis en Inde en ce moment, si vous avez besoin de renseignements complementaires.
50€ par jour et par personne, c'est vraiment exagéré (on a déjà eu une discussion à ce sujet sur le forum à peu près à la même époque l'an dernier). 35€ me parait plus raisonnable, mais ça dépend aussi de la taille du groupe (plus cher pour 2 personnes, moins cher pour 5-6 personnes) et de la capacité de négociation de chacun. Cela dit, des prix trop tirés vers le bas peuvent se faire au détriment de la qualité du service (même si des prix élevés ne sont pas non plus une garantie de bon niveau de service...).
D'autre part, les permis (Tso Moriri, Nubra Valley, Pangong Tso) ne coûtent pas grand chose, on paie surtout la comm' de l'agence qui s'en occupe (qui peut varier grandement...). Il est possible d'aller le chercher soit-même, mais ça ne vaut pas le coup de s'embêter et de perdre des heures pour qqs malheureux euros.
de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
La route ouvre en général vers la fin-mai, parfois plus tôt début mai, parfois plus tard début juin, et plus rarement vers la mi-juin. Mais elle peut fermer à n'importe quel moment, y compris au milieu de l'été à cause de glissement de terrain ou de chute de neige ponctuelle. Depuis qqs années, la DDE locale ("BRO" = Boarder Road Organization) tente d'ouvrir de plus en plus tôt et se retrouve à devoir évacuer des gens bloqués par des chutes de neige tardives. Cette année, ils ont commencé à dégager le 1er col (Rothang La) et ciblent sur une ouverture de la route jusqu'à Sarchu fin avril... (http://vistet.wordpress.com).
D'autre part, les permis (Tso Moriri, Nubra Valley, Pangong Tso) ne coûtent pas grand chose, on paie surtout la comm' de l'agence qui s'en occupe (qui peut varier grandement...). Il est possible d'aller le chercher soit-même, mais ça ne vaut pas le coup de s'embêter et de perdre des heures pour qqs malheureux euros.
de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
La route ouvre en général vers la fin-mai, parfois plus tôt début mai, parfois plus tard début juin, et plus rarement vers la mi-juin. Mais elle peut fermer à n'importe quel moment, y compris au milieu de l'été à cause de glissement de terrain ou de chute de neige ponctuelle. Depuis qqs années, la DDE locale ("BRO" = Boarder Road Organization) tente d'ouvrir de plus en plus tôt et se retrouve à devoir évacuer des gens bloqués par des chutes de neige tardives. Cette année, ils ont commencé à dégager le 1er col (Rothang La) et ciblent sur une ouverture de la route jusqu'à Sarchu fin avril... (http://vistet.wordpress.com).
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50 euros c'est pour 2 personnes...et vraiment tout compris... y compris permis etc.. c'est moins cher en partant en groupe normal !!!
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh c'est tout de même assez rare qu'elle ouvre mi mai... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
50 euros c'est pour 2 personnes...et vraiment tout compris... y compris permis etc.. c'est moins cher en partant en groupe normal !!!
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh c'est tout de même assez rare qu'elle ouvre mi mai... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
Voici la discussion que nous avons eu l'an dernier : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2626586
Et comme je l'ai dit, les permis ne coûtent en théorie par grand chose, en tous cas pas plus d'une centaine de roupies par personne et par jour. Après, chacun paie ce qu'il veut !
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
La Palisse n'aurait pas dit mieux ! D'ailleurs la route peut fermer même en plein mois de juillet ou août (ça arrive tous les ans 1 ou 2 fois).
L'an dernier, elle a vaguement ouvert vers le 20 mai, puis refermé, pour finalement être vraiment opérationnelle début juin. En 2008 et en 2007, ouverture totale et sans réserve mi-mai (quand le panneau dit "ouvert", ça veut dire que les bus peuvent passer). Idem en 2006 (mais grosses chutes de neige courant juin). En 2005, elle n'a pas pu ouvrir avant mi-juin. Certains passent avant l'ouverture officielle (en jeep ou en moto), mais ça doit être "chaud" (http://vistet.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/manali-leh-white-out).
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
La Palisse n'aurait pas dit mieux ! D'ailleurs la route peut fermer même en plein mois de juillet ou août (ça arrive tous les ans 1 ou 2 fois).
L'an dernier, elle a vaguement ouvert vers le 20 mai, puis refermé, pour finalement être vraiment opérationnelle début juin. En 2008 et en 2007, ouverture totale et sans réserve mi-mai (quand le panneau dit "ouvert", ça veut dire que les bus peuvent passer). Idem en 2006 (mais grosses chutes de neige courant juin). En 2005, elle n'a pas pu ouvrir avant mi-juin. Certains passent avant l'ouverture officielle (en jeep ou en moto), mais ça doit être "chaud" (http://vistet.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/manali-leh-white-out).
Transhimalaya Trois Roues pour le Toit du Monde (http://transhimalaya.blogspot.com)
"Appuyez-vous sur les principes : ils finiront bien par céder !" (Oscar Wilde)
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Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada





