Bonjour, nous partons le 30/5/2008 pour l'Indonésie et j'ai besoin d'un conseil !
Nous sommes censés arriver à Jakarta à 17h par KLM depuis Amsterdam via Kuala Lumpur.
Notre problème, c'est que nous aimerions enchainer avec un vol Jakarta vers yogyakarta à 19h20 par Garuda !
Seulement, nous avons du mal à nous imaginer si c possible à faire, sachant que : il faut que l'avion arrive à l'heure !!! (1ère et indispensable condition !) qu'il faut le temps de sortir de l'avion, récupérer les bagages faire le visa changer de l'argent pour la taxe d'aéroport apparement prendre une navette pour changer de terminal (assez proche) enregistrer une 1/2 heure avant soit 18h50 maximum
Donc, l'objet de notre demande, c de savoir si quelqu'un à déjà fait ça, si vu votre expérience du pays ou de l'aéroport de Jakarta en particulier, c'est quelque chose de réalisable ou pas du tout, sachant qu'on est bien conscient que ça sera tendu et que le moindre grain de sable fera tout capoter.
Merci de nous faire bénéficier de votre expérience.
Phil
A priori c'est bon, sauf si il y a un grain de sable comme tu dis.
Si vous arrivez à sortir de l'avion parmi les premiers, vous n'aurez pas beaucoup de queue à faire pour les visa... compter 15-20 minutes entre l'attérissage de l'avion et l'obtention du visa donc.
Le point le plus tendu à mon avis c'est le passage de l'immigration... il m'est arrivé d'attendre assez longtemps, 30 min voire plus. Mais je pense que si vous voyez qu'il y a beaucoup de monde, vous pouvez toujours demandez/suppliez qu'on vous laisse passer devant. Autre plan possible: A deux, une personne peux directement aller faire la queue à la douane pendant que l'autre fait son visa, et ensuite inversément, celui qui attendait va faire son visa. L'immigration se trouve une centaine de mètres après le guichet des visas donc ca ne coute rien de jeter un oeil. Au pire, vous pourrez toujours vous démerder pour passer en moins de 25 minutes si vous rusez un peu. Les bagages se prennent dans la foulée: +5 min
Ensuite, pour rejoindre l'autre terminal, ca prend 5-10 minutes suivant le temps d'attente du taxi.
Changer l'argent, il y en a pour 2 minutes.
Et après c'est la queue pour le check-in.
Au final, en prévoyant large ca se fait bien, vous aurez même le temps de vous arrêter au mcdo.
c'est la première et indispensable condition qui me gène... j'ai déjà voyagé sur KLM et j'en ai gardé un mauvais souvenir... je suis pas sûr que leurs avions soient toujours à l'heure... surtout s'il y a des escales...
C'est un risque à prendre...
Ne pile pas ton grain avec une banane mûre... (proverbe africain)
je sais qu'apres des années d'indonesie, moi je ne le jouerais pas. c'est beaucoup de stress pour beaucoup d'inconnues. à moins d'aimer cela........
pour info, garuda vole maintenant depuis le T2. je pense que klm y est basée egalement. on circule facilement dans l'aeroport de jakarta. pas besoin de taxi, ni navette.
pour gagner du temps prevoyez 50 dollars pour les visas que vous pouvez changer avant. sage pecaution. c'est 25 dollars par visa.
pour info il y a un hotel à l'aeroport.
selamat datang.
voyager c'est aller de soi même à soi même en passant par les autres.
Voyageant en eco tu vas faire la queue pour le visa attention à ne pas le manquer c'est un "algeco" blanc avec 3 comptoirs : tu payes au premier puis on te fait le visa qui est sur ta droite avant l'immigration.
Une fois que tu as passé l'immigration tu peux prendre de l'argent au distributeur avec ta VISA ou faire le change dans un bureau, le tx est le meme dans les deux bureaux que tu trouveras en face des tapis à bagages.
La douane est assez rapide sous réserve que tu sois dans les régles, on te demandera surement de passer ton bagage à main aux rayons x.
Garuda est au terminal 2 donc pas de navette
En résumé, c'est possible mais moi qui voyage régulierement sur jakarta, je ne le tenterai pas
Merci à tous, je vais abandonner l'idée, et me reporter sur un vol tôt le lendemain matin, il y a une promo à 225 000 rps valable aussi le lendemain ! Sinon on va se mettre une pression de fou et c pas bon pour commencer !
Comme ça, le plan (ne pas perdre de temps à Jakarta et ne pas se taper 10/12h de train !) fonctionne aussi, on gagne au moins un jour et de la fatigue pour une somme modique.
Quelqu'un connait un hotel pas cher à côté de l'aéroport ? y'en a un dans le routard : l'anugrah transit hotel, ça vous dis quelque chose ?
Merci aux membres du forum pour ces conseils éclairés !!!!!!!!!!!!
Phil
C'est une sage décision, l'option du train dep 08h arr 14h54 à Yogya est aussi interressante pour uen premier decouverte de java, mais cela dépend de la durée de ton sejour.
L'hotel FM7 est tout à côté de l'aéroport et il est très bien pour les voyageurs en transit : bar, salle de sports, spa, massages, petit déj copieux...On y est resté une nuit avant d'aller sur Jogya et on a bien aimé...
Ca m'est arrivé de louper un avion à Bali, et j'avais tout simplement pris le suivant... Mais ça peut être sympa une petite nuit dans un lit après 20 heures d'avion ! Ton option a l'air idéale !
Primo, 2h de batements avec changement de terminal c'est risqué, sauf si pour le vol Jkt - Jogja peut etre repoussé. Solutions: speculer sur le vol KLM, avec consequence de perdre celui de Jkt - Jogja. Rester à l'hotel de l'aeroport pour 1er vol le lendemain matin. Ne cherchez pas à rentrer en ville, car ca merdouille. Vous pouvez chercher à reserver votre vol avec le temps libre que vous avez à l'aeroprt, sauf si c deja fait depuis la france.
Avec 2h de batement, je vois une source de galere! Donc, un conseil, prenez celui du lendemain.
Bonne chance.
Bonjour, nous partons le 30/5/2008 pour l'Indonésie et j'ai besoin d'un conseil !
Nous sommes censés arriver à Jakarta à 17h par KLM depuis Amsterdam via Kuala Lumpur.
Notre problème, c'est que nous aimerions enchainer avec un vol Jakarta vers yogyakarta à 19h20 par Garuda !
Seulement, nous avons du mal à nous imaginer si c possible à faire, sachant que : il faut que l'avion arrive à l'heure !!! (1ère et indispensable condition !) qu'il faut le temps de sortir de l'avion, récupérer les bagages faire le visa changer de l'argent pour la taxe d'aéroport apparement prendre une navette pour changer de terminal (assez proche) enregistrer une 1/2 heure avant soit 18h50 maximum
Donc, l'objet de notre demande, c de savoir si quelqu'un à déjà fait ça, si vu votre expérience du pays ou de l'aéroport de Jakarta en particulier, c'est quelque chose de réalisable ou pas du tout, sachant qu'on est bien conscient que ça sera tendu et que le moindre grain de sable fera tout capoter.
Merci de nous faire bénéficier de votre expérience.
Phil
Quelques sites à voir avant de partir :
www.amb-indonesie.fr , www.west-sumatra.com, www.lagazettedebali.info
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.