Bali: mini trek au mont Batur ou au mont Agung?
by Pat83
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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salut à tous, nous serons à bali cet été et aimerions faire un minitrekking à la journée, nous hésitons entre Batur et Agung, certains disent que l'on se fait "harceler" au départ du mont Batur et que cela gache la journée?... peut on réellement faire le mon Agung dans la journée?lequel avez vous préféré?
merci de vos impressions.
pat83
Il y a ausi le parc national de Bali Barat.
Jamais entendu parlé de harcelement.
Il y a trois belles randonnées à faire dans le parc national de BALI BARAT pour une expérience inoubliable. Randonnée 1: Départ et arrivé à l'office du parc national de Teluk Terima, cette balade fera une boucle à travers la forêt tropical tout en longeant la petite rivière de Teluk Terima, durée 2 heures env. Randonnée 2: Cette balade est une extension de la randonnée 1, passant par la forêt tropical et le mont Ulu Teluk Terima dont le sommet est à une hauteur de 242 mètres, durée 4 heures env. Randonnée 3: Le départ est à l'office du parc national de Sumber Klampok pour arriver à l'office de Klatakan ou Ambyarsari. Ce chemin traverse le bush tropical et la forêt de Klumber Klampok (dans la partie nord du parc) pour vous menez au sommet du mont Klatakan 690m, une fois passé le sommet le trek fera une boucle dans la partie ouest du parc pour enfin arriver à Klatakan ou Ambyarsari, durée 6 à 7 heures env. Une randonnée à travers la belle réserve naturel du mont BATUKARU vous immersera rapidement dans l'ombre fraîche de la forêt tropical. Vous découvrirez le monde caché de la faune et de la flore de Bali en passant à coté d'arbres et de fougères antiques, d'orchidées sauvages exotiques, abritant de nombreuses variétés d'oiseaux et d'animaux tropicaux. Il faut partir assez tôt (7 heure du matin) pour être de retour en fin d'après-midi. 5 à 6 heures pour arriver au sommet et 3 à 4 heures pour redescendre.
Voici l'adresse d'une guesthouse dont le proprio fait aussi guide pour la montée au mont Batur. A PENELOKAN : Astra Dana, tél: 0366-52091. Tenu par Dizzy qui fait aussi guide pour la montée au Batur, l'endroit est très beau et tellement calme à la tombée de la nuit.
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Voici l'adresse d'une guesthouse dont le proprio fait aussi guide pour la montée au mont Batur. A PENELOKAN : Astra Dana, tél: 0366-52091. Tenu par Dizzy qui fait aussi guide pour la montée au Batur, l'endroit est très beau et tellement calme à la tombée de la nuit.
Forêt tropicale, tropicale? Tu peux en dire plus sur cette forêt? faune? flore?
Merci!
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bonjour
simplement pour preciser le batur qui est splendide est un volcan facile, genre 2 a 3h de montée seulement alors que le gunung agung est tres difficile nottament si on part du temple bésaki(il me semble), il faut compter genre 6 h de montée et presque autant de redescente et par cette voie qui est la plus courte c'est tres dangereux, il faut un tres bon guide et une santé de fer, faut etre limite athlete et pas avoir peur de mourrir car si tu tombes tu ne tomberas plus jamais apres, par contre c'est une experience unique et magique ou l'on se sent tout petit.il parait que l'autre voie est plus longue mais moins dangereuse.a savoir que tres peu de touristes entreprenne l'ascension et ça se comprend, commence par le batur qui est magnifique et pas tres dur, le lever du soleil est somptueux.
bon voyage
simplement pour preciser le batur qui est splendide est un volcan facile, genre 2 a 3h de montée seulement alors que le gunung agung est tres difficile nottament si on part du temple bésaki(il me semble), il faut compter genre 6 h de montée et presque autant de redescente et par cette voie qui est la plus courte c'est tres dangereux, il faut un tres bon guide et une santé de fer, faut etre limite athlete et pas avoir peur de mourrir car si tu tombes tu ne tomberas plus jamais apres, par contre c'est une experience unique et magique ou l'on se sent tout petit.il parait que l'autre voie est plus longue mais moins dangereuse.a savoir que tres peu de touristes entreprenne l'ascension et ça se comprend, commence par le batur qui est magnifique et pas tres dur, le lever du soleil est somptueux.
bon voyage
Bonjour,
Quelqu'un sait-il de combien est le dénivelé du mont Batur?
Nous avons prévu de faire l'ascension pendant notre séjour à bali mais mon ami à un petit soucis de sante et les "montées" en général sont assez difficile pour lui...
Après l'ascension, pensez-vous que c'est une bonne idée de rester sur place une nuit supplementaire pour se reposer et profiter du payasage calmement? Il parait que le harcelement là bas et assez pénible... fait-il donc mieux partir le plus vite possible?
Dernière question: est -ce que l'achat d'une lampe frontale peut etre utile (4euros à leclerc!) ou est-ce ce serait nous encombrer pour rien?
Merçi
Quelqu'un sait-il de combien est le dénivelé du mont Batur?
Nous avons prévu de faire l'ascension pendant notre séjour à bali mais mon ami à un petit soucis de sante et les "montées" en général sont assez difficile pour lui...
Après l'ascension, pensez-vous que c'est une bonne idée de rester sur place une nuit supplementaire pour se reposer et profiter du payasage calmement? Il parait que le harcelement là bas et assez pénible... fait-il donc mieux partir le plus vite possible?
Dernière question: est -ce que l'achat d'une lampe frontale peut etre utile (4euros à leclerc!) ou est-ce ce serait nous encombrer pour rien?
Merçi
menara
Bonjour,
En général l'ascension du Mont Batur se fait au petit matin, avant le lever du soleil, pour pouvoir profiter de celui ci au sommet. Donc, lampe frontale indispensable pour la montée dans la nuit noire.
Je crois que le truc standard a faire est d'arriver a Penelokan/Kedisan/Toya Bungkah dans la journée et d'organiser son trek du lendemain matin avec un guide de son hôtel (dans les 300.000Rp/personne pour un tour plus ou moins complet, en général le premier prix annoncé est légerement négociable, ou bien tu peux demander a étendre le tour pour la même somme). A priori je ne vois pas l'intérêt de rester une nuit supplémentaire, il y a bien des sources d'eau chaude mais le complexe qui s'est récemment rénové autour est devenu tres cher (pour Bali).
En principe si tu pars avec un guide de l'hôtel vous ne serez pas harcelés, c'est juste pour les gens qui essaieraient de faire l'ascension seuls que ça pourrait mal se passer. Lorsque nous y étions, ça n'était pas expliqué tres clairement dans le Lonely et on avait essayé de faire la montée - assez courte paraît-il - depuis un endroit auquel on avait accedé en scooter. On s'est fait intercepter avant de commencer et interdire de le faire. Je suis ensuite passé au bureau des guides pour me faire expliquer exactement comment les choses fonctionnent, je n'ai jamais eu affaire a de pires crapules de tous mes voyages! Parce que je posais des questions les deux types a la mine vraiment patibulaire que j'ai reveillé en entrant se sont énervés tous seuls, puis m'ont menacé de mort (!!). Si j'ai bien compris c'est une espece de mafia qui tient le business du trek sur le Batur, tu n'es pas obligé de l'organiser avec eux mais si tu fais l'ascension avec un guide de ton hôtel ils perçoivent leur dîme de toute façon. D'apres ce qui m'a semblé ça doit etre une expérience bien plus plaisante de passer par un hôtel que d'avoir affaire a eux directement.
En général l'ascension du Mont Batur se fait au petit matin, avant le lever du soleil, pour pouvoir profiter de celui ci au sommet. Donc, lampe frontale indispensable pour la montée dans la nuit noire.
Je crois que le truc standard a faire est d'arriver a Penelokan/Kedisan/Toya Bungkah dans la journée et d'organiser son trek du lendemain matin avec un guide de son hôtel (dans les 300.000Rp/personne pour un tour plus ou moins complet, en général le premier prix annoncé est légerement négociable, ou bien tu peux demander a étendre le tour pour la même somme). A priori je ne vois pas l'intérêt de rester une nuit supplémentaire, il y a bien des sources d'eau chaude mais le complexe qui s'est récemment rénové autour est devenu tres cher (pour Bali).
En principe si tu pars avec un guide de l'hôtel vous ne serez pas harcelés, c'est juste pour les gens qui essaieraient de faire l'ascension seuls que ça pourrait mal se passer. Lorsque nous y étions, ça n'était pas expliqué tres clairement dans le Lonely et on avait essayé de faire la montée - assez courte paraît-il - depuis un endroit auquel on avait accedé en scooter. On s'est fait intercepter avant de commencer et interdire de le faire. Je suis ensuite passé au bureau des guides pour me faire expliquer exactement comment les choses fonctionnent, je n'ai jamais eu affaire a de pires crapules de tous mes voyages! Parce que je posais des questions les deux types a la mine vraiment patibulaire que j'ai reveillé en entrant se sont énervés tous seuls, puis m'ont menacé de mort (!!). Si j'ai bien compris c'est une espece de mafia qui tient le business du trek sur le Batur, tu n'es pas obligé de l'organiser avec eux mais si tu fais l'ascension avec un guide de ton hôtel ils perçoivent leur dîme de toute façon. D'apres ce qui m'a semblé ça doit etre une expérience bien plus plaisante de passer par un hôtel que d'avoir affaire a eux directement.
pour l'agung je ne partage pas du tout ton avis reinhard, je pense que l'agung c'est THE experience ultime a bali, on voit toute l'ile, java, les gilis, lombok et le rinjani, bref moi j'ai adoré autant que j'en ai bavé.
en fait ce que je ne comprends pas c'est pourquoi allez sur bali en 2010, l'ile a tellement changé en peu de temps, bien sur il reste des petits coins de paradis isolé mais franchement quitte a tapé dans le touristique autant allez en thailande.
mais il en faut pour tout les gouts 😉
en fait ce que je ne comprends pas c'est pourquoi allez sur bali en 2010, l'ile a tellement changé en peu de temps, bien sur il reste des petits coins de paradis isolé mais franchement quitte a tapé dans le touristique autant allez en thailande.
mais il en faut pour tout les gouts 😉
Bonjour je me rends à Bali au mois de septembre et avec mon ami nous souhaiterions nous rendre au parc national de Bali Barat. Est il possible d'avoir le nom et l'adresse de votre hotel? Est il possible de trouver facilement des logements pas cher et de bonne qualité? J'ai pu lire qu'il était possible de faire de la plongée au sein du parc?
J'espère que vous allez pouvoir m'aider, merci
Bonjour,
Si par hasard quelqu'un suit encore cette discussion interrompue depuis 1 an ! Je pars à Bali la semaine prochaine et j'aimerai faire l'ascension du Mont Agung depuis Besakih, quelqu'un pourrait-il m'indiquer le prix par personne pour le guide ?
L'ascension est-elle vraiment si dur que ça ?
Merci pour vos retours !
Si par hasard quelqu'un suit encore cette discussion interrompue depuis 1 an ! Je pars à Bali la semaine prochaine et j'aimerai faire l'ascension du Mont Agung depuis Besakih, quelqu'un pourrait-il m'indiquer le prix par personne pour le guide ?
L'ascension est-elle vraiment si dur que ça ?
Merci pour vos retours !
PLC
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Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra




