Hi everyone,
I’m a die-hard fan of India, but it’s time I discovered Thailand too to broaden my Asian horizons.
I’m heading there on January 19, 2025, for a 46-day trip (no visa needed as I’m French). I’ve pored over a few guidebooks and travel blogs. Based on what caught my interest, I’ve put together a rough itinerary and list of sights. But since I know absolutely nothing about Thailand, I’m kind of flying blind here.
Since I’m not exactly a spring chicken anymore, I’ve opted for a few bases where I’ll stay several days in the same place. That way, I won’t have to change locations and hotels every day or so, packing and unpacking my suitcase constantly. Instead, I plan to explore the surrounding area each day, within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
So, first question: Is that kind of round-trip distance manageable in a day in Thailand?
In India, renting a car for a day—with a driver—currently costs around 35 to 40 € per day. Knowing that 1,300 to 1,500 THB would be my absolute max, and even then, only if I don’t rent a car every single day.
Which brings me to my second question: Am I being unrealistic?
Otherwise—third question—once I’m settled in the city I’ve chosen as my base, can I get around within that 50–70 km radius using public transport?
I’ve already booked all my hotels—with free cancellation—on booking.com at an average price of 950/1,000 THB per night. Does that put me in a good range for value for money? Or am I dreaming?
Bangkok -> Chiang Mai by overnight train in first-class sleeper
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son – Hot springs – Chiang Dao – caves – Lamphun – other places to be decided on the spot based on what’s worth seeing and transport options
Chiang Mai -> Chiang Rai
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton – Chiang Saen – Doi Tung – Chiang Khong – Doi Ang Khang, Phu Chi Fah, etc.
Chiang Rai -> Phrae
PHRAE (4 days/5 nights): Lampang and surrounding areas, depending on what’s interesting to see
Phrae -> Loei
LOEI (4 days/5 nights): Phu Kradung – Chiang Khan and surrounding areas, depending on what’s worth seeing
Loei -> Buriram
PHIMAI (Nakhon Ratchasima/Khorat) (5 days/6 nights): Phimai – Prasat Muang Tam – Phanom Rung – Prasat Phanom Wan
Phimai -> Khorat (airport or train station) -> Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
Hi there,
I’m also a huge fan of India... for a long time now. But I really love Thailand too. It’s so different from India, and I enjoy spending 1 or 2 months there after India.
To answer your questions... transportation is very well organized, comfortable, and... punctual. The main roads are in great condition. In cities, you’ve got tuk-tuks (the equivalent of rickshaws) and metered taxis. As for car rentals, I’ve never tried it, but renting a scooter or motorcycle is no problem at all. For accommodation, I pay around 550 to 800 THB for two.
Have a great trip to the Land of Smiles!
I’m also a huge fan of India... for a long time now.
Yeah, I’ve seen you post on the India forum before.
Travel is very well organized, comfortable, and... punctual. The main roads are in great condition. In cities, you’ve got tuk-tuks—same as rickshaws—and metered taxis. I’ve never rented a car, but renting a scooter or motorcycle is no problem. For accommodation, I pay around 550 to 800 THB for two.
Enjoy your trip to the Land of Smiles!
Still, I’ve read everywhere to avoid tuk-tuks and go for taxis instead—they’re super cheap.
No way I’m renting a scooter, let alone a motorcycle ;)
Thanks so much for this message—it’s reassuring!
Personally, I’d skip Lopburi (no interest at all).
I’d try to add Sangkhla Buri (Thailand’s largest teak bridge over the lake) after Kanchanaburi. Such a great vibe and it’s so beautiful!!
I prefer Sukhothai over Ayutthaya.
Between Mae Hong Son and Chiang Mai, Pai is also lovely—gorgeous nature.
In Chiang Rai, check out Doi Chang and Singha Park.
Phrae and Loei aren’t essential for a first trip.
In Asia, Agoda is way better than Booking for prices, and you can often cancel for free.
For prices, you’re spot on—easy to find places between 800 and 1400 THB.
Taxis are cheap, and public transport is dirt cheap.
100–150 km a day is no problem for exploring around your hotel.
Hi and thank you so much! I’d written a long, detailed reply based on all your tips and suggestions. But at the last minute, the page glitched again—it’s a nightmare on VF!—and I lost everything. I’m not starting over.
Anyway, a huge thank you!
When you're writing a long post, every few paragraphs, copy-paste and save it in your notepad that you’ve already placed on your desktop.
For the rest, as I mentioned, I think I’ll be able to reach out to you tomorrow.
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to avoid changing locations and hotels almost every day and constantly packing and unpacking my suitcase. Instead, I plan to explore the surrounding areas each day within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
I’m not sure if it’s more relaxing to travel every day?
70 km x 2 still adds up to 140 kilometers of public transport or taxi rides in a single day...
Should I change locations more often but stay at least 2 nights each time to balance both approaches?
950/1000 THB per night
That’s just under 30 € per night.
You didn’t specify the category.
On average, I’m spending around 45 € (for a double room) in mid-range accommodations, mostly in the pricier part of Thailand (the southern triangle: Krabi, Surat Thani, Khao Lak).
1 week for visiting Bangkok – Kanchanaburi/Erawan National Park? – Ayutthaya/Lopburi? – Muang Boran – Samut – Songkram/Amphawa
So, changing your base for each of these places?
Bangkok -> Chiang Mai by overnight train in 1st class sleeper
Those sleepers are popular among travelers. Don’t forget to book as soon as reservations open.
And like in India, when there’s AC, it gets freezing...
PHIMAI (Nakhon Ratchasima/Khorat) (5 days/6 nights): Phimai – Prast Muang Tam Prasat Hin – Phanom Rung – Prasat PhanomWan
I loved Phimai and Phanom Rung—it had a bit of an Angkor vibe. My memories are old, though; the area wasn’t touristy at all back then. I get the feeling Isan is still off the beaten path.
For Khorat, there was a train.
Chiang Mai -> Chiang Rai
I’d originally planned these destinations until I learned March is burning season.
Since you’ll be there in February, you should be fine.
My tip: take the train instead of the bus, even if it’s slower, so you can enjoy the scenery (plus, you can move around—it’s way more comfortable).
With 46 days, you’ve got plenty of time!
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C'est le moment de poster vos meilleurs clichés !
If there’s such a thing as useless posts, I think yours might just win the golden chocolate palm of failure.
It might’ve been a good idea to read the thread before jumping in (a few people have already shared some answers), or even better, to "fuel" the debate with relevant opinions and suggestions on the topic...
Anyway...
To add a little grain to the mill for the author of this thread, I’ll probably be a bit less enthusiastic than the previous contributors.
For a first trip, the itinerary seems very—if not way too—ambitious, but that’s just my opinion.
You say you’re "no longer young"
Without being too wrong, I think you’ll end up exhausted from this trip.
The route is a tourist highway for a good part of the stay.
Bangkok in 7 days right off the bat will already be overwhelming.
The next 6 days with Kanchanaburi, Ayutthaya, and the rest won’t be a walk in the park either, especially since I still haven’t figured out if your plan includes a round trip to Kanchanaburi from Bangkok. If that’s the case, it’ll be a marathon.
Skipping Chiang Mai and Mae Hong Son and the rest in 6 days—we’re continuing the marathon, and if you’re thinking of doing Chiang Mai->Mae Hong Son as a day trip, expect to take a minivan there and back without barely setting foot in Mae Hong Son.
I’ll stop here because you can imagine the rest of your "delights" will, in my view, be more of the same.
Regarding your questions about travel distances, it’s definitely manageable, but since I’ve only rented cars without a driver, I can’t give you any pricing details for a chauffeur service. However, I’m convinced that to stick to such a packed schedule, you’ll need to use one every day outside Bangkok.
Also, knowing that Chiang Mai-Chiang Rai are tourist factories, there’ll be plenty of options, but it might be harder or more expensive in less-visited areas like Khorat or Buriram.
For the third question: the answer is yes, without hesitation. Except it shouldn’t be your first trip there, you need to have at least a basic grasp of Thai, and you need to know how Thailand’s transport system works—which is far from easy for a first-timer, even for some Thais. I don’t think you can check all those boxes, so drop the idea fast. Even with 10 years living here, I wouldn’t do some of these trips without being accompanied by Thai friends, because even if some don’t have the transport know-how, they have one advantage I’ll never have: the Thai language.
As for hotels, after many experiences, price isn’t always a guarantee of quality in Thailand, so there’s no saying you won’t be disappointed. That said, reviews on booking sites can be helpful.
Far from me the idea of worrying you—Thailand remains an incredibly interesting and fascinating country—but in my view, it’s best enjoyed at the pace of the Thai people and their serenity.
Obviously, everything I’ve written above is just my opinion, which others may not share at all. Such is life.
It’s up to you to find the right solution if it exists—the one that suits you best...
Hello! I’m heading to Thailand at the end of November for two months before heading off to India ;-)
For Thailand, I recommend downloading the GRAB app. The prices are unbeatable. It’s a great complement to tuk-tuks, which are usually for very local trips. It works like Uber, except you can pay in cash even when booking through the app.
Hi Kate,
I’m reaching out to you to respond to this gentleman who replied to me—not directly, but through you. And he did so in a rude and aggressive way toward you, even though you’d just wanted to give me a kind word of encouragement, since I’d mentioned in another discussion that I wasn’t getting many responses...
I want to thank this gentleman for taking the time to send me such a long message. For my part, I’ll be more concise in telling him that even though I mentioned being a certain age, I don’t travel—yet—in a wheelchair. In fact, I’m a grown man, I’ve got a brain that works just fine, and if I see for myself that I’m too tired or that I’ve been too ambitious—I prefer the word *ambitious* to *marathon*—I’ll be smart enough not to push myself to see everything or even make drastic cuts to my plans. But 46 days gives me plenty of time, especially in Thailand, which isn’t India when it comes to transportation.
In the end, this gentleman didn’t really teach me much except that I’m a newbie in Thailand, which I already knew myself—otherwise, I wouldn’t have posted this request.
Still, I sincerely thank him for his reply, and I’ll take it into account... or not—wink to Attila.
Hi there, I'm heading to Thailand at the end of November for 2 months before heading off to India ;-)
For Thailand, I recommend downloading the GRAB app. The prices are unbeatable. It complements tuk-tuks, which are usually for very local trips. It works like Uber, except you can pay in cash even when booking through the app.
Thanks so much for the tip. I’ll definitely keep it in mind.
If I didn’t reply directly, it’s because I know that, as the thread author, you’re notified of messages posted here.
But well, if I’d known you were so sensitive...
I don’t see any rudeness or aggression in my message—I just pointed out how useless this post is, especially when no info is given about the requests.
If uselessness is your thing, then by all means...
As for the rest of your message, it doesn’t bother me if my post "doesn’t teach you much"—that’s probably because of your vast knowledge, which I hadn’t suspected.
That said, it at least helps us understand why most of the old-timers from before don’t come back to post replies.
Hello,
I’m only responding to what I know a bit about since I traveled through some of these places back in 1980!
And I plan to explore the surrounding areas each day, within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
So, first question: is this round-trip distance manageable in a day in Thailand?
Yes, but it’s pushing it—though the roads are much better than in India. If you have to do this often, it might get tiring.
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son - Hot Springs - Chiang Dao - Caves – Lamphun – other places to be determined on-site based on what’s interesting and transport options
That doesn’t add up at all. To visit Mae Hong Son, which is over 200 km from Chiang Mai, you’ll need to stay there or within 30 km.
Chiang Dao is over 100 km from Chiang Mai!...
Lamphun is south of Chiang Mai (25/30 km) and is best done by taxi or songthaews.
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton
A suggestion for traveling from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai in 2 or 3 days (or more if you have time). That’s what I did (among other things) in 1980.
From Chiang Mai, go to Fang (now takes 3–4 hours by minibus),
then to Thaton (by bus or taxi). A half-hour taxi ride. Stay there overnight.
The next day (or the day after), take a boat down the Kok River to Chiang Rai.
In Mae Hong Son (you *must* stay overnight!), there are plenty of temples to visit and villages like Lahu, Karen, Lisu, etc. Things have probably changed a lot... and the villages may have become overly touristy. I did this on foot over several days back then.
After Mae Hong Son, I recommend heading to Mae Sariang (about 150 km south), by a river and surrounded by forested mountains. It was very peaceful at the time, with a lovely traditional market, tea fields, and plenty to see, including several old wats.
For the rest, I don’t know much, and I’ve also forgotten a fair bit.
Here’s an ambitious and spread-out itinerary. There’s some streamlining and development to be done.
You’ve chosen hotels in a price range that isn’t the lowest, which will help you avoid certain discomforts and provide a bit more comfort—something that’s not insignificant for a month and a half.
I sent you an email.
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Hello
I’m only responding to what I know a bit about since I traveled through some of these places back in 1980!
And I plan to explore the surrounding areas each day, within a maximum radius of 50 to 70 km.
So, first question: Is this round-trip distance manageable in a day in Thailand?
Yes, but it’s pushing it—though traffic is much better than in India. If you do this often, it could get tiring.
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son - Hot Springs - Chiang Dao - Caves – Lamphun – other places to be decided on the spot based on what’s interesting and transport options
That doesn’t add up at all. To visit Mae Hong Son, which is over 200 km from Chiang Mai, you’ll need to stay there or within 30 km.
Chiang Dao is over 100 km from Chiang Mai!...
Lamphun is south of Chiang Mai (25–30 km) and is best done by taxi or songthaews.
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton
A suggestion for traveling from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai in 2 or 3 days (or longer if you have time). That’s what I did (among other things) in 1980.
From Chiang Mai, go to Fang (now takes 3–4 hours by minibus),
then to Tha Ton (by bus or taxi). About half an hour by taxi. Stay there overnight.
The next day (or the day after), take a boat down the Kok River to Chiang Rai.
In Mae Hong Son (you *must* stay overnight!), there are plenty of temples to visit and villages like Lahu, Karen, Lisu, etc. Things have probably changed a lot... and the villages may have become overly touristy. I did this on foot over several days.
After Mae Hong Son, I recommend heading to Mae Sariang (about 150 km south), by a river and surrounded by forested mountains. It was very peaceful back then, with a lovely traditional market, tea fields, and lots to see, including several old wats.
For the rest, I don’t know much, and I’ve also forgotten a fair bit.
Good evening Jean Michel, I had written a long reply, and the page just crashed again. Everything’s gone... I’ll try again tomorrow.
Thanks so much
Hi Jean-Michel, I’m picking up my reply from yesterday that got lost—I hope I manage to finish it this time!
That really doesn’t work at all. To visit Mae Hong Son, which is over 200 km from Chiang Mai, you need to stay there or within 30 km.
I’d actually made that note myself and had removed it from my itinerary. But a friend assured me it was doable by spending one night there—while leaving my suitcase at the Chiang Mai hotel and coming back the next morning.
Chiang Dao is over 100 km from Chiang Mai!…
I thought that by leaving early in the morning—by car—it’d be doable in a day with a return to my hotel in the evening without too much fatigue.
From Chiang Mai, go to Fang (currently takes 3–4 hours by minibus), then to Thaton (bus or taxi). Half an hour by taxi. Stay there. The next day or the day after, take a boat down the Kok River to Chiang Rai.
I’d planned that too, and it really interested me. But I saw that at this time of year, there isn’t enough water for the boat trip.
In Mae Hong Son (you *have* to stay there!) there are plenty of temples to visit and villages like Lahu, Karen, Lisu, etc. Things have probably changed a lot… and the villages may have become too touristy. I did this on foot over several days. After Mae Hong Son, I recommend going to Mae Sariang (about 150 km south), by a river and surrounded by forested mountains. It was very peaceful back then, with a beautiful traditional market, tea fields, and lots to see, including several old wats.
This makes me want to reschedule that trip and adjust my stays to include overnight hotel stops.
I think I need to rework all of this—it was just a first draft.
I’m a bit of a lone old bear, and I’d prefer to avoid places that are too crowded… But without knowing Thailand, it’s pretty tricky!
That’s an ambitious and scattered plan. There’s some trimming and fleshing out to do.
I put this itinerary together a bit blindly, just by reading a few guides and a -small- map, based on what I felt like seeing. I’m ready to tweak it, cut things out. I’m not one of those people who tries to cram in every sight. I like taking my time and avoiding crowds—you know that. If you’ve got any ideas or tips to share, don’t hesitate. Thanks a lot!
You’ve picked hotels in a price range that isn’t the cheapest, which’ll help you avoid some hassles and give you a bit more comfort—definitely not a bad call for a month and a half.
I’d like to travel as light as possible. Not like when I go to India, where I end up carrying a ton of stuff because I stay for 6 months or more. So I’ll be minimizing clothes. Are laundry services easy to find and reasonably priced in hotels, and do they usually dry things by the next day?
Hi,
Before I forget, I owe you all an apology.
First off, the start of your reply to Kate really irritated me because poor Catherine just wanted to say something nice, and you tore her apart. Anyway, moving on. Then, before I realized what you were saying was right, I was put off by how you said it, which I won’t dwell on either.
So I read other travel journals, especially Jojoone’s, who also sent me an email saying the same thing as you—but differently—and I realized you were right. Too much is too much. Especially for someone who likes to take their time everywhere, when traveling and in life. So I’m going to make some big cuts to my plan. AND since I’m being honest with myself, I’ve come to tell you about it.
Now I just need to figure out what to keep and what to cut...
So thank you!!! And no hard feelings
I really love rural Isaan for its "make-do" vibe, completely off the tourist trail.
After 40 days on a road trip, I’d hate to miss it.
I totally get that. What I meant was that looking at the photos (maybe not all of them), they don’t really inspire me, but I think they just aren’t the best representation of what this province has to offer. That’s just the opinion of a mediocre photographer, though.
Hello,
Before I forget, I owe you a few apologies.
Good evening,
As the saying goes, a fault confessed is half redressed.
First, the beginning of your reply to Kate really irritated me, because poor Catherine had just wanted to say something kind, and you tore her to shreds.
That it irritated you, fair enough... But that "kind" word you describe should have stayed with you, because in the thread it was insulting to the people who had taken the time to participate in your topic before her post saying "no one to answer...". Besides, I wasn’t even one of them—I can’t even be accused of defending my "turf."
"Tore her to shreds"—isn’t that a bit excessive? I invite you to reread my lines, but like you, this lack of respect (because that’s how it comes across when you don’t know "the full story") toward those who take the time to share their experiences really gets to me.
Then, before realizing what you were saying was right, I was put off by how you said it...
It’s said simply, directly, and without frills—from a tablet and with a bit of jet lag. Sorry if it lacks lyricism, but I don’t recall seeing any in your questions, nor is this a forum dedicated to that...
That said, I found you quite harsh, especially since I was just repeating your own words about accusing me of treating you like an invalid.
So I read other travel journals, especially Jojoone’s, who also sent me an email saying the same thing as you—but differently—
I can only encourage you to take his point of view—and that of a few others—into consideration. He’s a veteran of this forum with an impressive track record.
Enough is enough. Especially for someone who likes to take their time everywhere, in travel as in life.
It wasn’t exactly jumping out at first glance, but as I told you in my previous post, Thailand is savored if you hope to grasp the richness of its people and culture. Unfortunately, few people do, no matter where they come from.
So I’m going to make some drastic cuts to my plan.
Why call them drastic? 😛
And since I’m being honest with myself, I’ve come to tell you.
Since you publicly lashed out at me, it was only right to correct it the same way.
Now I just need to decide what to keep and what to cut...
Unfortunately, I’m not you, but I’ll still take the liberty of giving you a few points that might, I hope, help your reflection based on what seems most important or essential to you.
If you really want to keep this part, I suggest splitting it into two: one at the beginning of your trip and one at the end.
Beyond how tiring Bangkok can be, there’s an important cultural reason: your dates coincide with the second-biggest event in Chiang Mai—the Flower Festival, which takes place the first weekend of February (February 1–2, 2025). It’s an event you should experience at least once. Personally, I’ve done it twice. It’s a bit less crowded than Loy Krathong, which just happened, but unfortunately, this year it falls right during Chinese New Year.
Bangkok -> Chiang Mai by overnight train in 1st-class sleeper.
You can book it now—it’s already open—but I’d strongly recommend 2nd class; it’s much livelier than 1st.
CHIANG MAI (6 days/6 nights): Mae Hong Son – Hot springs – Chiang Dao – caves – Lamphun – other places to be determined on-site based on what’s interesting and transport options
As has already been said: split this area, which is way too vast for your initial idea. For example, a 3-3-3 split (Chiang Mai-Mae Hong Son-Chiang Mai) could be an alternative, with luggage storage at your Chiang Mai hotel to travel lighter.
Chiang Mai -> Chiang Rai
CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton – Chiang Saen – Doi Tung – Chiang Khong – Doi Ang Khang, Phu Chi Fah, etc.
Split this area like Chiang Mai.
Chiang Rai -> Phrae
PHRAE (4 days/5 nights): Lampang and surroundings based on what’s interesting to see
No experience in this area, but this is where the off-the-beaten-path part begins, requiring more energy and time. From here on, you’ll have to make significant cuts.
Phrae -> Loei
LOEI (4 days/5 nights): Phu Kradung – Chiang Khan and surroundings based on what’s interesting to see
Same as above. The Mekong stretch to Nong Khai is beautiful but requires more independence for getting around.
Loei -> Buriram
PHIMAI (Nakhon Ratchasima/Khorat) (5 days/6 nights): Phimai – Prasat Muang Tam – Phanom Rung – Prasat Phanom Wan
Split and lighten this area—it’s still a part that demands more energy unless you delegate everything to your hotel, as with previous stops. But you should know that comes at a cost...
Phimai -> Khorat (airport or train station) -> Bangkok. Overnight in Bangkok.
As has already been said, the train is great.
To wrap up, I understand your need to book in advance—it’s comfortable to arrive without having to "shop around" for where to stay—but it has a downside: flexibility. While it’s justified for high-demand areas like Chiang Mai, for quieter parts, nothing’s stopping you from handling things day by day, having preselected your hotels. It would be quite extraordinary for everything to be fully booked, even if you can’t find the exact place on the booking site. And this gives you the freedom to stay longer in places that inspire you or cut short those that disappoint.
Dear Mr. Partirdeloin, you shocked Mr. Marien and knocked out poor Kate, whose comment was really well-intentioned. You were quite naughty!
You might end up like me—annoying everyone! 😛 😎
On the substance, you’ve brought up points that will help Jean Marie make good progress. It’s clear you know the country well.
It’s likely Jean Marie will come back with a less ambitious and more realistic version of his project, and in the end, he’ll be just as satisfied. When planning a trip at home, we think we can pull off an itinerary that would only be realistic and enjoyable if we could stretch out the days, right?
By the way, he’s into natural sites, temples, and authentic local crafts. Do you have any tips for him, even in a DM?
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Contrary to what you wrote, the road between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai has absolutely no interest.
You don’t see the Mekong at all.
The road isn’t anything special—it doesn’t compare to the roads up north.
The Mekong makes sense around Chiang Khong or near Nakhon Phanom, but that’s not the route the original poster asked about.
As for Chiang Khan, it’s a selfie spot for Bangkok locals on weekends, and the accommodations are overpriced for what you get.
The area has little to offer overall.
Dear Mr. Partirdeloin, you shocked Mr. Marien and knocked out poor Kate, whose comment was really well-intentioned. You were quite naughty!
You might end up like me, annoying everyone! 😛 😎
Dear Jojoone1,
I think I’ll survive... 😉
On the substance, you’ve provided elements that will help Jean Marie make good progress. It’s clear you know the country well.
Far be it from me to claim such expertise—after all, "no one is a prophet in their own land," so imagine in a country that isn’t even yours...
It’s likely Jean Marie will come back with a less ambitious and more realistic version of his plan, and he’ll probably be just as satisfied. When we plan a trip at home, we think we can fit in a route that would only be realistic and enjoyable if we could stretch out the days, right?
I hope so for him—though we all sometimes "bite off more than we can chew"...
By the way, he’s into natural sites, temples, and real local crafts. Do you have any tips for him, even in a PM?
Unfortunately, my dear Jojoone the First, as you’ve probably noticed, I have no talent for storytelling—unlike some of you. Not a single travel journal in 10 years... 😕 Almost a shame compared to all your talents, which I lack.
I must also admit that I don’t have much time, prioritizing real life, and I’m plenty busy with that...
And as I’ve said before, I’ve always been independent in the Land of Smiles—no agencies, tour operators, drivers, guides, or anything like that. Just my intuition, sometimes with no results, sometimes amazed, but always without knowing the name of what I saw...
Temples are like churches in France or other places of worship—I’ve always refused to pay entry. If I want to make a donation, it’s my choice, not an obligation. The only exception I made was the Silver Temple in Chiang Mai—50 THB at the time.
There are so many temples across Thailand. I’ve made some great discoveries, especially in the village of the friend we were talking about earlier. He showed me another temple with a crocodile enclosure on the grounds. I’ve also seen many Khmer temple ruins that I’ll never pay the prohibitive prices to visit at Angkor in Cambodia—though you can find photos of them all over the internet.
contrary to what you wrote, the road between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai has absolutely no interest.
Hello,
Unlike you, I’ve never compared your tastes with mine, as that’s a matter of personal preference.
But maybe you’re some kind of "Messiah" with divine words...
You don’t see the Mekong.
I could show you dozens of spots where it’s visible—I remember a temple perched on a hill with a 360° view that rivaled Mount Phu Chi Fa’s.
As for Chiang Khan, it’s a selfie zone for Bangkokians on weekends, and the accommodations are overpriced for the standard offered. The region has little interest.
That might be true on weekends and during holidays, but otherwise, it’s a very peaceful town. And for your information, *Monsieur Divine Word*, "Bangkorians" don’t exist—it’s your imagination. They’re called Bangkokians or people from Bangkok.
Finally, as I mentioned earlier, this area, in my opinion, can only be explored independently, which isn’t what Marien33 is looking for.
It's true that with a drone, the Mekong is visible all the way between Chiang Khan and Nong Khai.
Keeping your eyes glued to the control screen is doable with a good battery reserve.
It’d be a shame to miss that on a first trip.
You must not have been to Chiang Khan in a long time—it’s become artificial, a selfie showcase, with another Skywalk and developments along the Mekong.
It might appeal to Instagram tourists.
Hi everyone,
I can’t seem to book a first-class sleeper from Bangkok to Chiang Mai on February 2nd via the train company’s official website.
At first, I thought it was because I was searching too early. But now (December 3rd), it should’ve worked.
No trains show up for that date.
Is there another way to book this train ticket? Thanks so much.
Thanks Agnès, that sheds some light! Apparently, the waiting list system is brand new but not quite polished yet since you don’t know your rank on the waitlist... So it’s holding me back from booking another option like a bus or flight...
Since you’re staying a while, maybe you can change the day?
I tried changing the date, but it’s the same... With Chinese New Year, the trains are packed. And I don’t want to linger in Bangkok either...
Oh well... it’ll work out... it’ll work out... it’ll work out...
Chinese New Year is pretty much hell.
I ended up in Hua Hin during that period, and everything was fully booked...
Spent the night in a dump waiting for the next day when it was over.
That’s partly why I like to book in advance!
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Chinese New Year is pretty much hell.
I ended up in Hua Hin during that time and everything was fully booked...
Spent the night in a dump waiting for it to be over the next day.
It's in French because Google did an automatic translation.
I had chosen English.
Thanks so much for your help, but unfortunately, it didn't work. I got the same option as you, but when I click to select it, I get the message: **Seat not enough. Please select another train coach.**
I’ve tried 4 times already...
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Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing
July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao
August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide
August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena
August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands
August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts)
August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk
August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar
August 17: Rammang Rammang
August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!