Itinéraire et choix des parcs dans l'Ouest américain
by Michele13960
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
aujourd'hui, j'ai besoin de votre aide. nous avons pour projet un voyage à partir de mi septembre, et de 17 - 18 nuits sur place pour visiter quelques parcs de l'ouest américain. notre philosophie n'est pas de courir afin d'en visiter un maximun en un minimun de temps , mais de profiter au maximun de ce que chacun peut nous offrir. nous privilégions la nature , les possibilités de randonnées, les rencontres et les échanges avec les locaux. Nous serons 4 adultes et pensons louer un véhicule.
avec une arrivée à San Francisco, nous pensions prendre 2 - 3 jours pour visiter la ville, avant de partir pour les parcs, et vol retour, peut être d'une autre ville pour ne pas rajouter des km pour revenir à notre point de départ.
certes , il y a des incontournables, yosémite, arches, zion, grand canyon..... et des moins connus.
quels parcs privilégier pour telle randonnée, combien de temps consacrer à chaque parc, tenir compte de la saison pour les parcs du nord, quels hébergements....
notre itinéraire n'est pas construit, toutes propositions seront les bienvenues......
voilà, aujourd'hui, c'est moi qui est besoin d'aide..... d'avance merci
Bonsoir,
la meilleure aide que tu puisses avoir.... c'est TOI !!!
Et consulter le blog de ITAT, et les sites en Français comme ouestusa, sunsetbld et parcs.net car TOUT y est, mais il faudra bosser un peu.
Acheter carte et guide (genre Routard ou autre) pour te confectionner TON circuit, suivant TES goûts et envies.
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la meilleure aide que tu puisses avoir.... c'est TOI !!!
Et consulter le blog de ITAT, et les sites en Français comme ouestusa, sunsetbld et parcs.net car TOUT y est, mais il faudra bosser un peu.
Acheter carte et guide (genre Routard ou autre) pour te confectionner TON circuit, suivant TES goûts et envies.
à +
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http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
Andalousie, Bretagne, Corse, Provence, Sicile, Toscane, villes d'Italie.
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Merci pour les sites, ouestusa, est super , mais justement y a beaucoup de choses et difficile de faire un choix....je vais faire un tour sur les autres, il est évident qu'il faut s'y atteler et bosser pas qu'un peu, mais j'ai du mal à faire une trame de départ .
Bonsoir Michele,
Le mieux serait peut être de partir sur un itinéraire basique mais qui tient la route et après d'essayer de l'affiner suivant le temps que vous avez à lui consacrer. Des exemples d'itinéraires là si ça vous intéresse (vers la fin de la page):
http://jeveuxcamperauxusa.blogspot.fr/2011/07/organisation-du-voyage.html
Le mieux serait peut être de partir sur un itinéraire basique mais qui tient la route et après d'essayer de l'affiner suivant le temps que vous avez à lui consacrer. Des exemples d'itinéraires là si ça vous intéresse (vers la fin de la page):
http://jeveuxcamperauxusa.blogspot.fr/2011/07/organisation-du-voyage.html
Hello
Au moins une ébauche, et à partir de là on pourra t'aider.
Mais déjà: "17 nuits", "arrivée SF", "randonnées", "prendre le temps" ... Il va falloir faire de sacrés choix ... sinon tu feras un circuit classique où tu passes le minimum requis à chaque endroit, dans ce cas les exemples sont légion sur le forum, tu n'as qu'à piocher.
Au moins une ébauche, et à partir de là on pourra t'aider.
Mais déjà: "17 nuits", "arrivée SF", "randonnées", "prendre le temps" ... Il va falloir faire de sacrés choix ... sinon tu feras un circuit classique où tu passes le minimum requis à chaque endroit, dans ce cas les exemples sont légion sur le forum, tu n'as qu'à piocher.
Lancez vous dans un projet...C'est le seul moyen de commencer à y voir clair et notamment comme le dit ITAT de vous rendre compte que la durée annoncée est incompatible avec les conditions énoncées.... tout simplement parce que certains "parcs" nécessitent plus que cà pour "profiter au maximum de ce qu'ils ont à nous offrir".
Logiquement un circuit avec arrivée San Francisco et départ Las Vegas ou mieux Phoenix va s'imposer en éliminant le secteur de Moab si ne vous zappez pas un ou deux parcs majeurs sur le parcours.
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
Si je peux me permettre un exemple de pratique qui pour nous fonctionne bien : Si vous aviez 3 incontournables pour vous (Allez! 4, comme ça, ça fait un chacun(e)), ce serait quoi ? Et tu construis ton itinéraire autour de ça tout en cherchant à optimiser et sur 17/18 nuits sur place tu pourras ajouter d'autres belles choses..
Tu ne verras pas tout, mais au moins chacun(e) y trouvera son compte.
bonsoir Itat ,
je viens de faire un tour sur ton blog, BRAVO, c'est très bien fait et c'est une mine d'infos. merci aussi à vous tous, j'ai commencer une ébauche sélective ( c'est le plus dur, éliminer, car on voudrait tout voir.....), alors voilà: arrivée San Francisco : 3 nuits yosemite: 4 nuits bryce canyon: 2 nuits monument valley: 1 nuits moab: 4 nuits grand canyon: 1 nuit départ: phoenix
le hic, c'est l'étape yosémite - bryce canyon, il va falloir faire une étape d'1 nuit, je ne suis pas tentée par Las Végas... peut être faut il prévoir 1 nuit à Phoenix en fonction de l'horaire du vol retour, je pourrais toujours la reporter quand je saurais les horaires de vol. quand pensez vous ? est ce que cela tient la route ?
je viens de faire un tour sur ton blog, BRAVO, c'est très bien fait et c'est une mine d'infos. merci aussi à vous tous, j'ai commencer une ébauche sélective ( c'est le plus dur, éliminer, car on voudrait tout voir.....), alors voilà: arrivée San Francisco : 3 nuits yosemite: 4 nuits bryce canyon: 2 nuits monument valley: 1 nuits moab: 4 nuits grand canyon: 1 nuit départ: phoenix
le hic, c'est l'étape yosémite - bryce canyon, il va falloir faire une étape d'1 nuit, je ne suis pas tentée par Las Végas... peut être faut il prévoir 1 nuit à Phoenix en fonction de l'horaire du vol retour, je pourrais toujours la reporter quand je saurais les horaires de vol. quand pensez vous ? est ce que cela tient la route ?
Hello
Aïe les sites sont espacés les uns des autres... Ne pas faire de route le jour du vol retour. Donc prévoir une nuit à Phoenix la veille du vol. N'est-il pas possible de faire 3 semaines complètes ?
Dans ce cas, l'itinéraire envisagé serait possible en plaçant une nuit à Death Valley, 1 nuit à Zion et 1 nuit à Capitol Reef.
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Aïe les sites sont espacés les uns des autres... Ne pas faire de route le jour du vol retour. Donc prévoir une nuit à Phoenix la veille du vol. N'est-il pas possible de faire 3 semaines complètes ?
Dans ce cas, l'itinéraire envisagé serait possible en plaçant une nuit à Death Valley, 1 nuit à Zion et 1 nuit à Capitol Reef.
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Peut être 1 nuit de plus , mais pas 3.....va falloir se résoudre à faire une étape à las vegas 😏
Merci pour ton aide.😃
Avec 17 nuits, mais du coup on se retrouve avec un itinéraire classique
SF - 3 nuits Yosemite (El Portal) - 2 nuits Lee Vining (Tioga Rd - Bodie - Mono Lake) - 1 nuit Death Valley - 1 nuit Passage par Valley Of Fire et Zion (Canyon Overlook) route jusqu'à Bryce - 2 nuits Capitol Reef - 1 nuit Torrey Moab - 4 nuits Monument Valley - 1 nuit Grand Canyon - 1 nuit Phoenix - 1 nuit
SF - 3 nuits Yosemite (El Portal) - 2 nuits Lee Vining (Tioga Rd - Bodie - Mono Lake) - 1 nuit Death Valley - 1 nuit Passage par Valley Of Fire et Zion (Canyon Overlook) route jusqu'à Bryce - 2 nuits Capitol Reef - 1 nuit Torrey Moab - 4 nuits Monument Valley - 1 nuit Grand Canyon - 1 nuit Phoenix - 1 nuit
Bonjour Michele,
en plus des réponses précédentes, voici un lien sur une page de notre site web où je décris ma façon de faire pour préparer le voyage.
Bonne lecture 😉.
en plus des réponses précédentes, voici un lien sur une page de notre site web où je décris ma façon de faire pour préparer le voyage.
Bonne lecture 😉.
Bonsoir Michele,
18 jours pour vos visites. Le premier jour et le dernier ne comptant pas.
3 jours a San Francisco, je serais heureux de vous aider pour vos visites de la ville.
Cela vous laisse 14 jours pour faire le circuit que vous envisagez. Vous allez passer enormement de temps sur les routes. Vous serez souvent sur des routes de montagne ou la vitesse est souvent limite a 45 miles a l'heure😕
Vous voulez faire des rndonnees, qui prennent du temps, rencontrer des LOCAUX, comme moi😎😎😎 cela prend du temps. Il faudra terminer votre periple soit a Phoenix AZ, soit prendre un vol pour revenir a SF,
Je vous dirai donc, limite vos visites et prenez le temps de les faire posement.
En Septembre tous les Parks seront accessibles😏
Pour les motels, ce sera selon vos moyens.
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Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
merci Durandale2 et les autres aussi, après qq jours d’absence, je reprends mon itinéraire et bonne nouvelle avec plus de temps sur place.
arrivée SF le 18/09 et départ de phoenix le 10/10.
je pensais faire:
j1 à j4: SF (3 nuits)
J4 à J7 : el portal (3 nuits)
J7 à J8: Death Valley
J8 à J9: las végas
J9 à J11: Zion (2 nuits)
J11 à J13: Bryce C (2 nuits)
J14 à J 16: Moab (2 nuits)
J16 à J17: Monument V
J17 à J18: Grand C.
J22: nuit à phoenix, et J23 vol retour. Il me reste donc 4 nuits à répartir, soit en rallongeant certaines étapes, 1 nuit sup à lee vining, 1 à Zion, 1 à Bryce et 1 à Moab, soit rajouter une étape, Page par exemple. qu'en pensez vous?
j'ai commencé à regarder les vols, AF a au départ de Paris un vol à 10 h 40, est ce mieux de passer par Stuttgard ou Londres ? Pour réserver les hôtels, les prix pratiqués sur booking ou autres sont assez chers, n'est il pas mieux de trouver une agence américaine pour réserver à notre place? nous aimerions partir avec nos hébergements réservés plutôt que de devoir le faire au cours du séjour. merci à tous de votre collaboration.
J22: nuit à phoenix, et J23 vol retour. Il me reste donc 4 nuits à répartir, soit en rallongeant certaines étapes, 1 nuit sup à lee vining, 1 à Zion, 1 à Bryce et 1 à Moab, soit rajouter une étape, Page par exemple. qu'en pensez vous?
j'ai commencé à regarder les vols, AF a au départ de Paris un vol à 10 h 40, est ce mieux de passer par Stuttgard ou Londres ? Pour réserver les hôtels, les prix pratiqués sur booking ou autres sont assez chers, n'est il pas mieux de trouver une agence américaine pour réserver à notre place? nous aimerions partir avec nos hébergements réservés plutôt que de devoir le faire au cours du séjour. merci à tous de votre collaboration.
Il faut une nuit à Lee Vining sinon la liaison vers la Death Valley sera vraiment trop longue.
Il manque également une nuit à Moab pour faire les deux parcs nationaux et quelques visites annexes.
Il faudrait aussi rajouter une nuit à Torrey entre Bryce et Moab.
Pour réserver tes hôtels, pas besoin d’agence, va directement sur le site internet des hôtels. Chaque hôtel a son propre site internet.
Il manque également une nuit à Moab pour faire les deux parcs nationaux et quelques visites annexes.
Il faudrait aussi rajouter une nuit à Torrey entre Bryce et Moab.
Pour réserver tes hôtels, pas besoin d’agence, va directement sur le site internet des hôtels. Chaque hôtel a son propre site internet.
merci Itat.
la dernière nuit on rajoutera sur Zion, je pense, ça m'a l'air sympa pour les randos.
je vais regarder ça pour les hôtels.
Bonjour Michele,
Vous allez devoir penser a quelques petites modifications:
A El Portal, vous n'avez pas besoin d'y passer 3 nuits, vous allez faire des allers et retours depuis Yosemite.
Vous serez sur des routes de montagnes, souvent limitees a 45 miles a l'heures et du monde sur les routes, moins a l'epoque ou vous y serez.
Mon avis serait que vous y passiez une nuit, en faisant le parcours SF Yosemite tranquilement en vous arretant en cours de route, surtout lorsque la route commencera a monter. Arret a Mariposa, ville.
Le jour suivant visitez la partie haute du Park qui devrait etre encore ouverte😄
Dormez dans le Park, si possible, ou alors retour a El Portal s'il n'y a pas moyen de faire autrement😎
Le jour suivant vous visitez la Valley et vous prenez la Tioga Pass et passez la nuit a Lee Vining. La visite de Bodie est une possibilite, souhaitable si vous en avez le temps.
Une nuit dans Death Valley, si possible, en Septembre les possibilites sont meilleures😄
Vegas, 2 nuits sont suffisantes (J'ai des prejuges, je n'aime pas Vegas) De la Zion Park avec visite.
Bryce Canyon et les Trails, le Peek-A-Boo en particulier. 2 jours tres bien.
Entre Bryce et Moab, la passez du temps. Le long du Hwy 12 il y a plein de detours et de visites.
A Moab, rajoutez facilement une nuit, vous ne regretterez pas😏
Monument Valley, en Septembre il peut commencer a faire frais, surtout le soir, grandes possibilites de merveilleux couchers de soleil et de lever😏
Grand Canyon, une petire descente sur le Bright Angel Trail, moins difficile, meme si ce n'est qu'une heure ou deux, a ne pas manquer si vous en avez la possibilite.😏
Si vous avez d'autres journees en plus, il reste le Canyon de Chelly, et un endroit peu visite, Chaco Canyon.
Un de mes endroits favoris.
Si vous etes interessee, regardez mon blog sur Chaco Canyon en bas de page.
Et puis pour conclure, un petit detour sur la Route 66, aussi en bas de page😄😄😄
Amities
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonjour Michele,
J'ai oublie les Motels.
Lorsque je voyage aux USA, je reserve rarement.
Tous les Motels ont leurs sites WEB et il est preferable de s'adresser a eux directement.
C'est ce que je fais lorsque nous sommes ur les routes. Attention les samedis soirs les motels sont souvent plus dificiles a trouver et aussi plus chers
A Vegas en fins de semaines les motels sont plus chers😕
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Bonjour
Pour les vols, si comme votre pseudo le laisse entendre vs partez de Marseille, vs avez effectivement le choix de prendre AF, KLM, LUFTHANSA ou BA.
Toutes se valent . Le plus important est de ne pas faire une escale aux USA à l'aller.
Pour les hôtels, dans les villes vs pouvez regarder les sites des chaines, du moins cher MOTEL6, SUPER8, DAY INN, à du plus "haut de gamme" CHOICEHOTELS, BEST WESTERN, HOLIDAY INN.... Comme dit plus haut, allez sur les sites des hôtels pour reserver.
Toutes se valent . Le plus important est de ne pas faire une escale aux USA à l'aller.
Pour les hôtels, dans les villes vs pouvez regarder les sites des chaines, du moins cher MOTEL6, SUPER8, DAY INN, à du plus "haut de gamme" CHOICEHOTELS, BEST WESTERN, HOLIDAY INN.... Comme dit plus haut, allez sur les sites des hôtels pour reserver.
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan






