Merci de votre aide. Khoulem.
Itinéraire Thaïlande
by Khoulem
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Je souhaite partir découvrir lea Thailande durant l'été 2005 (2 voir 3 semaines exactement).
Ayant envie de connaitre les charmes de ce pays et me reposer au bord de belles plages j'aimerais que vous m'aidiez à élaborer un itinéraire.
Merci de votre aide. Khoulem.
Merci de votre aide. Khoulem.
je te conseille dans l ordre de passer quelques jours a bangkok puis le bus direction sukhotai puis chaing mai et ensuite de la tu prends un billet d avion avec air asia de chiang mai a ko samui et de la tu as acces a koh pangan et koh tao inoubliable! voila
koh pangan c est tres peu cher
samui beaucoup plus et koh tao pour la plongee
koh pangan c est tres peu cher
samui beaucoup plus et koh tao pour la plongee
Salut à tous !
Moi j'en propose un autre d'itinéraire. Aller direct sur Chiang Mai (rester qq. jours dans la région pour pouvoir éventuellement faire un petit trek dans la région du Triangle d'Or) et ensuite "redescendre" par bus sur Bangkok, avec arrêts à Sukkhotai, Phitsanuloke, Lopburi, Ayutthaya (j'en oublie peut-être ...) Rester +/- 3 jours à Bangkok et ensuite aller vers l'ouest : Damnoen Sadduak (marché flottant), Nakhom Pathon (pour sa pagode), éventuellement Kanchanaburi, puis direction le sud, via Hua Hin/Cha Am ou Bangsaphan et ensuite Chumpon pour prendre le bateau pour aller sur Koh Tao ou Koh Phangan. Il ne reste plus ensuite qu'à prendre l'avion à Samui et retour sur Bangkok. Qu'en dites-vous ? 😉
A +, Sabaïdee
Moi j'en propose un autre d'itinéraire. Aller direct sur Chiang Mai (rester qq. jours dans la région pour pouvoir éventuellement faire un petit trek dans la région du Triangle d'Or) et ensuite "redescendre" par bus sur Bangkok, avec arrêts à Sukkhotai, Phitsanuloke, Lopburi, Ayutthaya (j'en oublie peut-être ...) Rester +/- 3 jours à Bangkok et ensuite aller vers l'ouest : Damnoen Sadduak (marché flottant), Nakhom Pathon (pour sa pagode), éventuellement Kanchanaburi, puis direction le sud, via Hua Hin/Cha Am ou Bangsaphan et ensuite Chumpon pour prendre le bateau pour aller sur Koh Tao ou Koh Phangan. Il ne reste plus ensuite qu'à prendre l'avion à Samui et retour sur Bangkok. Qu'en dites-vous ? 😉
A +, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Je suis assez d'accord avec Sabaidee, c'est le genre de périple que je fais mais ça fait peut-être un peu bcp. Pour le nord c Ok, Kanchanaburi et les chutes d'eau d'Erawan, pour le sud moi je prendrai le train de nuit jusqu'a Surat Thani puis le bateau pour KohSamui mais j'evite Koh Tao qui m'a vraiment déplu (colonialisme francais). Retour en train de nuit également, ça allège les frais et c plutot sympa. Si il reste un peu de temps, j'essayerai qd même d'aller à Koh Phi Phi pendant qu'il est encore temps, c'est certainement un des plus beau endroit de monde.
A force de poster, j'ai vraiment trop envie d'y retourner, j'en peux plus!!!!
A force de poster, j'ai vraiment trop envie d'y retourner, j'en peux plus!!!!
Kyio
www.pattaya-az.com
www.simonvoyage.com
Salut !
Koh Tao t'a déplu ? Nous on a vraiment apprécié. Il faut dire qu'on aime beaucoup faire du snorkeling et là, on a été gâtés. En plus, je trouve qu'il y règne une chouette ambiance, il y qq. bons restos et bars pour le soir, etc ... mais sans avoir la grosse foule de Chaweng ou Lamai sur Koh Samui (qui reste quand même mon île préférée jusqu'à présent !).
Aller jusqu'à Koh Phi Phi, why not ? Mais qq. remarques : 1) cela va "alourdir" leur budget (billet d'avion jusqu'à Phuket puis bateau), 2) c'est vrai c'est très beau mais c'est aussi hyper touristique, 3) si ils rajoutent cela à leur "programme" ils n'auront jamais le temps ... de prendre le temps ...
Moi aussi, à force de poster j'ai envie d'y retourner (j'ai pas encore mon billet mais je sais que j'y retourne en juillet prochain, la la la ...).
A +, Sabaïdee
Koh Tao t'a déplu ? Nous on a vraiment apprécié. Il faut dire qu'on aime beaucoup faire du snorkeling et là, on a été gâtés. En plus, je trouve qu'il y règne une chouette ambiance, il y qq. bons restos et bars pour le soir, etc ... mais sans avoir la grosse foule de Chaweng ou Lamai sur Koh Samui (qui reste quand même mon île préférée jusqu'à présent !).
Aller jusqu'à Koh Phi Phi, why not ? Mais qq. remarques : 1) cela va "alourdir" leur budget (billet d'avion jusqu'à Phuket puis bateau), 2) c'est vrai c'est très beau mais c'est aussi hyper touristique, 3) si ils rajoutent cela à leur "programme" ils n'auront jamais le temps ... de prendre le temps ...
Moi aussi, à force de poster j'ai envie d'y retourner (j'ai pas encore mon billet mais je sais que j'y retourne en juillet prochain, la la la ...).
A +, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
je ne connais pas encore koh Pangahn mais peut être en janvier (lalala pour repondre a sabaidee) j'espere! Je pense qu'on peut tjrs éviter l'avion grace aux nombreux car, on peut aller de Surat Thani à Krabi puis en bato jusque Phi Phi.
Kyio
www.pattaya-az.com
www.simonvoyage.com
je ne connais pas encore koh Pangahn mais peut être en janvier (lalala pour repondre a sabaidee) j'espere! Je pense qu'on peut tjrs éviter l'avion grace aux nombreux car, on peut aller de Surat Thani à Krabi puis en bato jusque Phi Phi.
Salut Kyio !
Allez, racontes ... Quand pars-tu, combien de temps, où comptes-tu aller ? T'as pas une petite place dans ton sac pour moi, je me ferai toute petite ... allez quoi !!!
Salut Kyio !
Allez, racontes ... Quand pars-tu, combien de temps, où comptes-tu aller ? T'as pas une petite place dans ton sac pour moi, je me ferai toute petite ... allez quoi !!!
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
houla c'est un peu compliqué car j'ai des trucs à règler avant de partir, je devrais deja etre la bas, je pense y aller apres les vacances de Noel. J'aimerai y rester 3 mois mais je suis à la recherche d'un boulot et il risque (j'espere) de me convoquer pour un entretien en début d'année alors...?...
Sinon je voudrais sortir des axes les plus fréquentés mais je ne sais pas encore comment, peut-être en descendant à n'importe quel arrêt du train ou prendre un bus pour n'importe où ?
Si quelqu'un connait des bleds sympas et sans touristes, j'aimerai me rapprocher un peu plus des thaïs, je dois prendre quelques cours de langue avant de partir et j'espère pouvoir continuer la bas et je voudrai apprendre les massages aussi.
Tout un programme, j'ai hate!!!
Sinon je voudrais sortir des axes les plus fréquentés mais je ne sais pas encore comment, peut-être en descendant à n'importe quel arrêt du train ou prendre un bus pour n'importe où ?
Si quelqu'un connait des bleds sympas et sans touristes, j'aimerai me rapprocher un peu plus des thaïs, je dois prendre quelques cours de langue avant de partir et j'espère pouvoir continuer la bas et je voudrai apprendre les massages aussi.
Tout un programme, j'ai hate!!!
Kyio
www.pattaya-az.com
www.simonvoyage.com
Salut Kyio !
La Thaïlande sans touristes, cela devient de plus en plus rare ...
Pour les cours de thaï, ma copine Sawadeekkha étudie le thaï via la méthode Assimil. Elle pourra sûrement t'en dire plus que moi, mais actuellement elle est là-bas ... 😕 (soupir) ...
Pour les massages : moi je ne connais que le Wat Po.
Bonne chance pour ton nouveau job ! 😉
A +, Sabaïdee
La Thaïlande sans touristes, cela devient de plus en plus rare ...
Pour les cours de thaï, ma copine Sawadeekkha étudie le thaï via la méthode Assimil. Elle pourra sûrement t'en dire plus que moi, mais actuellement elle est là-bas ... 😕 (soupir) ...
Pour les massages : moi je ne connais que le Wat Po.
Bonne chance pour ton nouveau job ! 😉
A +, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Salut Kyo,
je crois bien que c'est à Koh Phangnan qu'il y a le moins de monde, cela dit tu peux te trouver des coins isolés sur toutes les îles du coin (même Koh Samui, si, si !). Pour ce qui est de Koh Tao je suis de l'avis de Sabaïdee, l'ambiance est au conraire très sympa.. Quant au "colonialisme français", j'ai un peu de mal à comprendre : quand j'y suis allé y a deux ans je n'en ai rencontré quasiment aucun sauf un divemaster et les propriétaires du Farango (la pizzeria) et d'un autre resto dont je ne me rappelle plus le nom. Par rapport aux anglo-saxons et aux scandinaves y a même pas de comparaison possible...
je crois bien que c'est à Koh Phangnan qu'il y a le moins de monde, cela dit tu peux te trouver des coins isolés sur toutes les îles du coin (même Koh Samui, si, si !). Pour ce qui est de Koh Tao je suis de l'avis de Sabaïdee, l'ambiance est au conraire très sympa.. Quant au "colonialisme français", j'ai un peu de mal à comprendre : quand j'y suis allé y a deux ans je n'en ai rencontré quasiment aucun sauf un divemaster et les propriétaires du Farango (la pizzeria) et d'un autre resto dont je ne me rappelle plus le nom. Par rapport aux anglo-saxons et aux scandinaves y a même pas de comparaison possible...
Récit :
- plongee a Koh Tao
- Thailande - LE RETOUR
- Egypte, février 2006
bah moi qd j'y suis aller c'etait en juillet 2003,
on a debarqué, on s'est retrouvé ds un resto tenu par des francais mais c'était des thais au service qui ne semblaient pas très respectés par leur boss,
puis on a renseigner pour un bungalow pas trop cher, le village de bungalow était tenu par des francais ms c'était des thais au service qui ne semblaient pas très respectés par leur boss
et enfin pour la plongée on est tombé sur un prof francais qui nous a traité comme des cons car on trouvait ses cours trop cher alors il nous a fait tout un speech pour nous dire qu'en tant que touristes on devait faire marcher les commerces et que si on avait pu venir jusqu'ici c'est qu'on avait plein d'argent (ce qui n'est malheureusement pas le cas)
alors voila que des francais pas tres sympas avec des thais à leur service, c'est ce que j'appelle "colonialisme"...pour couronner le tout il s'est mis à flotter pdt 2 jours.
on a debarqué, on s'est retrouvé ds un resto tenu par des francais mais c'était des thais au service qui ne semblaient pas très respectés par leur boss,
puis on a renseigner pour un bungalow pas trop cher, le village de bungalow était tenu par des francais ms c'était des thais au service qui ne semblaient pas très respectés par leur boss
et enfin pour la plongée on est tombé sur un prof francais qui nous a traité comme des cons car on trouvait ses cours trop cher alors il nous a fait tout un speech pour nous dire qu'en tant que touristes on devait faire marcher les commerces et que si on avait pu venir jusqu'ici c'est qu'on avait plein d'argent (ce qui n'est malheureusement pas le cas)
alors voila que des francais pas tres sympas avec des thais à leur service, c'est ce que j'appelle "colonialisme"...pour couronner le tout il s'est mis à flotter pdt 2 jours.
Kyio
www.pattaya-az.com
www.simonvoyage.com
Bon alors bien sûr les cas particuliers sont toujours possibles et y a des cons partout mais quand tu dis
alors voila que des francais pas tres sympas avec des thais à leur service, c'est ce que j'appelle "colonialisme"
je suis pas d'accord du tout : Pour reprendre l'exemple du Farango, quand tu montes un commerce en Thailande et que tu emploies 10 thais de la même famille avec un salaire égal au double du salaire moyen alors que tu n'as besoin que de 3 ou 4 employés, tu fais marcher l'économie locale, tu donnes du boulot aux gens et tu fais monter le niveau de vie moyen. En plus tu paies un loyer à la famille thaie qui possède les murs, des impôts au gouvernement + 20 000 bahts chaque année pour ton permis de travail. Il est où le colonialisme ? A mon avis ça serait plutôt quand tu n'emploies que des farangs et que tu rappatries tous les bénéfices, tu ne crois pas ? Quant aux frictions entre proprios farangs et employés thais, à nouveau il faut voir ça au cas par cas mais y a peut être un début d'explication dans les différences de rythme de travail entre européens et thailandais. Honnêtement, il faut passer quelques années sur place avant d'intégrer pleinement les différences de mentalité et se dire que ce qui pourrait passer à nos yeux pour de la fainéantise pure et simple (exemple : une fille qui passe le balai et deux autres qui la suivent pour vérifier qu'il ne reste plus de poussière) est en fait un trait culturel à part entière. Les patrons pas sympas dont tu parles sont peut être nouveaux sur place et stressent pour leur investissement....ou alors, c'est des cons. Mais en tout cas pas des néocolonialistes.
alors voila que des francais pas tres sympas avec des thais à leur service, c'est ce que j'appelle "colonialisme"
je suis pas d'accord du tout : Pour reprendre l'exemple du Farango, quand tu montes un commerce en Thailande et que tu emploies 10 thais de la même famille avec un salaire égal au double du salaire moyen alors que tu n'as besoin que de 3 ou 4 employés, tu fais marcher l'économie locale, tu donnes du boulot aux gens et tu fais monter le niveau de vie moyen. En plus tu paies un loyer à la famille thaie qui possède les murs, des impôts au gouvernement + 20 000 bahts chaque année pour ton permis de travail. Il est où le colonialisme ? A mon avis ça serait plutôt quand tu n'emploies que des farangs et que tu rappatries tous les bénéfices, tu ne crois pas ? Quant aux frictions entre proprios farangs et employés thais, à nouveau il faut voir ça au cas par cas mais y a peut être un début d'explication dans les différences de rythme de travail entre européens et thailandais. Honnêtement, il faut passer quelques années sur place avant d'intégrer pleinement les différences de mentalité et se dire que ce qui pourrait passer à nos yeux pour de la fainéantise pure et simple (exemple : une fille qui passe le balai et deux autres qui la suivent pour vérifier qu'il ne reste plus de poussière) est en fait un trait culturel à part entière. Les patrons pas sympas dont tu parles sont peut être nouveaux sur place et stressent pour leur investissement....ou alors, c'est des cons. Mais en tout cas pas des néocolonialistes.
Récit :
- plongee a Koh Tao
- Thailande - LE RETOUR
- Egypte, février 2006
Pour répondre à l'itinéraire, je suis d'accord aussi bien avec cextra qu'avec Sabaidee. Mais le budget me sidère... J'espère que les tickets sont compris dans le budget, sinon, 2000€ par personne pour 3 semaines... 😮 Ca fait à peu près 75 € par personne et par jour!!! C'est énoooooorme!!! Pour ce prix là, je pars trois mois, avion compris, et vivrai à l'aise... Et on parle de colonialisme... 🤪
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Bon alors bien sûr les cas particuliers sont toujours possibles et y a des cons partout mais quand tu dis
alors voila que des francais pas tres sympas avec des thais à leur service, c'est ce que j'appelle "colonialisme"
je suis pas d'accord du tout : Pour reprendre l'exemple du Farango, quand tu montes un commerce en Thailande et que tu emploies 10 thais de la même famille avec un salaire égal au double du salaire moyen alors que tu n'as besoin que de 3 ou 4 employés, tu fais marcher l'économie locale, tu donnes du boulot aux gens et tu fais monter le niveau de vie moyen. En plus tu paies un loyer à la famille thaie qui possède les murs, des impôts au gouvernement + 20 000 bahts chaque année pour ton permis de travail. Il est où le colonialisme ? A mon avis ça serait plutôt quand tu n'emploies que des farangs et que tu rappatries tous les bénéfices, tu ne crois pas ? Quant aux frictions entre proprios farangs et employés thais, à nouveau il faut voir ça au cas par cas mais y a peut être un début d'explication dans les différences de rythme de travail entre européens et thailandais. Honnêtement, il faut passer quelques années sur place avant d'intégrer pleinement les différences de mentalité et se dire que ce qui pourrait passer à nos yeux pour de la fainéantise pure et simple (exemple : une fille qui passe le balai et deux autres qui la suivent pour vérifier qu'il ne reste plus de poussière) est en fait un trait culturel à part entière. Les patrons pas sympas dont tu parles sont peut être nouveaux sur place et stressent pour leur investissement....ou alors, c'est des cons. Mais en tout cas pas des néocolonialistes. travailler avec des thais au quotidien c est au moins un petage de plomb assure quotidien. Minimum! un thai est monotache . je suis navree de dire ca mais les thais ont un cerveau tres restreint! tu ne demanderas pas a un thai de faire deux choses en meme temps! le thai va te debarraser une table en 25 allers retours la ou moi ou eric on debarasserait en trois fos max! t as beau leur expliquer et leur expliquer encore y a rien a faire ca imprime pas. on pense que les thais ont moins besoin d argent que nous pour survivre et cela est vrai mais pas a bangkok! A bangkok c est galere pour eux! pricipalement pour les filles seules qui ont tentees de changer de vie et ont quittees leur magnifique village pour s enfoncer dans la jungle de la ville! Elles finissent alors dans un resto comme serveuse et gagnent 5000thb par mois et au petit matin elles rentrent dans leur studio qu elle loue 8000thb/mois......
alors voila que des francais pas tres sympas avec des thais à leur service, c'est ce que j'appelle "colonialisme"
je suis pas d'accord du tout : Pour reprendre l'exemple du Farango, quand tu montes un commerce en Thailande et que tu emploies 10 thais de la même famille avec un salaire égal au double du salaire moyen alors que tu n'as besoin que de 3 ou 4 employés, tu fais marcher l'économie locale, tu donnes du boulot aux gens et tu fais monter le niveau de vie moyen. En plus tu paies un loyer à la famille thaie qui possède les murs, des impôts au gouvernement + 20 000 bahts chaque année pour ton permis de travail. Il est où le colonialisme ? A mon avis ça serait plutôt quand tu n'emploies que des farangs et que tu rappatries tous les bénéfices, tu ne crois pas ? Quant aux frictions entre proprios farangs et employés thais, à nouveau il faut voir ça au cas par cas mais y a peut être un début d'explication dans les différences de rythme de travail entre européens et thailandais. Honnêtement, il faut passer quelques années sur place avant d'intégrer pleinement les différences de mentalité et se dire que ce qui pourrait passer à nos yeux pour de la fainéantise pure et simple (exemple : une fille qui passe le balai et deux autres qui la suivent pour vérifier qu'il ne reste plus de poussière) est en fait un trait culturel à part entière. Les patrons pas sympas dont tu parles sont peut être nouveaux sur place et stressent pour leur investissement....ou alors, c'est des cons. Mais en tout cas pas des néocolonialistes. travailler avec des thais au quotidien c est au moins un petage de plomb assure quotidien. Minimum! un thai est monotache . je suis navree de dire ca mais les thais ont un cerveau tres restreint! tu ne demanderas pas a un thai de faire deux choses en meme temps! le thai va te debarraser une table en 25 allers retours la ou moi ou eric on debarasserait en trois fos max! t as beau leur expliquer et leur expliquer encore y a rien a faire ca imprime pas. on pense que les thais ont moins besoin d argent que nous pour survivre et cela est vrai mais pas a bangkok! A bangkok c est galere pour eux! pricipalement pour les filles seules qui ont tentees de changer de vie et ont quittees leur magnifique village pour s enfoncer dans la jungle de la ville! Elles finissent alors dans un resto comme serveuse et gagnent 5000thb par mois et au petit matin elles rentrent dans leur studio qu elle loue 8000thb/mois......
Euhh alors par contre dire que les thais ont un cerveau restreint, là faut faire gaffe, c'est du racisme.
A nouveau je préfère mettre en avant les pbms de communication et les différences culturelles. Quand on rentre sur le terrain des différences génétiques (sujet d'ailleurs battu en brèche par toutes les études scientifiques), on fait le lit d'idéologies nauséabondes...
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Récit :
- plongee a Koh Tao
- Thailande - LE RETOUR
- Egypte, février 2006
je voudrais t y voir au quotidien
j adore les thais et c est vraiment un plaisir immense que de vivre ici mais la seule chose qui me manque vraiment c est un bon personnel a l occidental!!!!!
t as beau faire ce que tu veux, etre gentille, froide, amicale, y a rien a faire ces gens la ont du mal a penser (ce te convient mieux ???)
ils veulent tout le temps des pauses (normal ils mangent tout le temps) et quand ils sont pas en pause ils ont 2 de tension
en thailande la vie est magnifique tant que tu n as pas besoin de travailler avec des thais lol
tiens une petite anecdote....
un soir mon pere embarque toute sa petite famille (qui s est vachement agrandie depuis notre arrivee) et decide de partir pour le nord ....on prend la route on roule on roule (parce qu il faut enormement roule pour sortir de bangkok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
et la on arrive a un peage. dans la cabine un mec qui dort la gueule ecrasee contre la vitre limite la bave aux levres lol.............mon pere ouvre la fenetre l appelle d abord doucement puis de plus en plus fort jusqu a franchement gueuler ! rien le gars il dort il ne se reveille pas
c est a coups de klaxon et de coups de poing dans la vitre qu on l a reveille lol
une fois reveille (enfin si on peut dire ca ) le caissier prend le billet de mon pere et il lui rend la monnaie EN RECOMPTANT 7fois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
attends eux d accord ils vivent au ralenti mais nous les farangs on nous pousse a conserver le rythme occidental.....arriver a l heure et respectueux de tel ou tel truc
enfin quand t as un rdv important et que tu dois etre a telle heure precise a tel endroit et que le chauffeur du taxi se plante 4 fois de chemin alors que toi tu t es pris la tete a lui expliquer 2 fois la route dans sa langue et que 2 fois tu lui a demande s il etait sur de t avoir compris et que le gars te dit oui oui comme sil s en balancait eperduement!!
et puis le pire c est que la route c etait toujours tout droit!!!!!!!
quand t es dans un taxi en france et que tu indiques ta route au chauffeur le gars si tu lui dis rien il continue tout droit il va pas s arreter a toutes les intersections pour etre bien sur que c est pas la que tu veux tourner????
ben un thai si!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ah la la le choc des cultures lol
l avantage c est qu a force ca t apprends a destresser parce que finalement tu ne peux pas stresser tout le temps!!!!!!!!!
j adore les thais et c est vraiment un plaisir immense que de vivre ici mais la seule chose qui me manque vraiment c est un bon personnel a l occidental!!!!!
t as beau faire ce que tu veux, etre gentille, froide, amicale, y a rien a faire ces gens la ont du mal a penser (ce te convient mieux ???)
ils veulent tout le temps des pauses (normal ils mangent tout le temps) et quand ils sont pas en pause ils ont 2 de tension
en thailande la vie est magnifique tant que tu n as pas besoin de travailler avec des thais lol
tiens une petite anecdote....
un soir mon pere embarque toute sa petite famille (qui s est vachement agrandie depuis notre arrivee) et decide de partir pour le nord ....on prend la route on roule on roule (parce qu il faut enormement roule pour sortir de bangkok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
et la on arrive a un peage. dans la cabine un mec qui dort la gueule ecrasee contre la vitre limite la bave aux levres lol.............mon pere ouvre la fenetre l appelle d abord doucement puis de plus en plus fort jusqu a franchement gueuler ! rien le gars il dort il ne se reveille pas
c est a coups de klaxon et de coups de poing dans la vitre qu on l a reveille lol
une fois reveille (enfin si on peut dire ca ) le caissier prend le billet de mon pere et il lui rend la monnaie EN RECOMPTANT 7fois!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
attends eux d accord ils vivent au ralenti mais nous les farangs on nous pousse a conserver le rythme occidental.....arriver a l heure et respectueux de tel ou tel truc
enfin quand t as un rdv important et que tu dois etre a telle heure precise a tel endroit et que le chauffeur du taxi se plante 4 fois de chemin alors que toi tu t es pris la tete a lui expliquer 2 fois la route dans sa langue et que 2 fois tu lui a demande s il etait sur de t avoir compris et que le gars te dit oui oui comme sil s en balancait eperduement!!
et puis le pire c est que la route c etait toujours tout droit!!!!!!!
quand t es dans un taxi en france et que tu indiques ta route au chauffeur le gars si tu lui dis rien il continue tout droit il va pas s arreter a toutes les intersections pour etre bien sur que c est pas la que tu veux tourner????
ben un thai si!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ah la la le choc des cultures lol
l avantage c est qu a force ca t apprends a destresser parce que finalement tu ne peux pas stresser tout le temps!!!!!!!!!
c'est ce ke je dis : le choc des cultures ! et puis le manque d'éducation, les rythmes ki diffèrent, l'ignorance du stress, ce genre de trucs.
mais moi je trouve ke ça a aussi des avantages, non ? ca aide à prendre du recul et à revoir d'un oeil neuf tout ce ki en France parait normal (à nouveau rythme, stress, etc...).
Le vrai pb à mon avis, c'est ke plus l'économie thaie va s'ouvrir sur le reste du monde et plus ils seront forcés de revoir tout ça. Alors profitons des bons côtés tant ke ça dure..
Tu me files l'adresse de ton resto ? j'arrive à Bangkok début janvier. 😄
Le vrai pb à mon avis, c'est ke plus l'économie thaie va s'ouvrir sur le reste du monde et plus ils seront forcés de revoir tout ça. Alors profitons des bons côtés tant ke ça dure..
Tu me files l'adresse de ton resto ? j'arrive à Bangkok début janvier. 😄
Récit :
- plongee a Koh Tao
- Thailande - LE RETOUR
- Egypte, février 2006
houla, attention à la dérive, certain propos sont effectivement un peu raciste, mais il est vrai j'imagine que manager des thais a la francaise doit relever du miracle! Il n'est effectivement pas rare de voir des thais balayer du sable qui se redepose aussitot ou un commercant en train de dormir qu'on n'ose à peine reveiller pour payer ses articles, meme ds le bus ou autrez ils dorment bcp mais est ce qu'ils font de longues nuits? Mais je trouve que ca fait aussi le charme de la thailande, on vient aussi la bas pour echapper au stress et à la prise de tête permanente qu'on nous inflige à longueur de temps en france! Maintenant si on decide de s'installer en Thailande c'est à l'étranger se s'adapter pas aux locaux! ils sont chez eux, non? Alors que le tourisme les aide à se developper c bien mais on est pas obligé de les " transformer" on devrait peut être prendre exemple sur eux car parfois recevoir un sourire ds le metro fait du bien! Je viens egalement en thailande en Janvier, ouais!
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houla, attention à la dérive, certain propos sont effectivement un peu raciste, mais il est vrai j'imagine que manager des thais a la francaise doit relever du miracle! Il n'est effectivement pas rare de voir des thais balayer du sable qui se redepose aussitot ou un commercant en train de dormir qu'on n'ose à peine reveiller pour payer ses articles, meme ds le bus ou autrez ils dorment bcp mais est ce qu'ils font de longues nuits? Mais je trouve que ca fait aussi le charme de la thailande, on vient aussi la bas pour echapper au stress et à la prise de tête permanente qu'on nous inflige à longueur de temps en france! Maintenant si on decide de s'installer en Thailande c'est à l'étranger se s'adapter pas aux locaux! ils sont chez eux, non? Alors que le tourisme les aide à se developper c bien mais on est pas obligé de les " transformer" on devrait peut être prendre exemple sur eux car parfois recevoir un sourire ds le metro fait du bien! Je viens egalement en thailande en Janvier, ouais! y a pas de racisme la dedans c est juste qu au quotidien c est un peu dur c est tout maintenat on s adapte c est clair mais quand tu distribues des salaires bien au dessus de la moyenne t aimerais des employees bien au dessus de la moyenne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Et des annecdotes comme ca on pourais en faire une encyclopedie en 2000 volumes.
Mais on les aimes comme ca n'est ce pas...
Et des annecdotes comme ca on pourais en faire une encyclopedie en 2000 volumes.
Mais on les aimes comme ca n'est ce pas...
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie
je proposerai bien ayutthaya lors la montée en bus vers chiang mai
a+
a+
Sauvons le tibet !
Vivre pour apprendre et apprendre à vivre ...
j'ai exactement le même projet pour aout 2005.
les itineraires proposés m'ont l'air extra mais bon a chque fois il faut un boulet pour poser la question suivante et je vais jouer ce role alors la voila :"thailande: risqué ou pas".
Ma question vient du fait que j'ai pu lire il y a peu de temps que dans le sud du pays, ca craignait un max avec les musulmans je crois, bref un souci de religon et il en découlait un nombre de morts important.
La thailande me dit beaucoup mais j'ai pas trop envie de revenir entre 4 planches !!!
Même si je le sais y'a 2 types de reactions
1) si tu crois tout, tu pars jamais !!! et c'est pas faux
2) vas y y'a rien a craindre
moi j'veux juste savoir quelle est le climat là (politique, religieux) en gros y'a beaucoup de risque ou pas et dans quelle partie du pays.
Merci
PS : au niveau climatique (precipitations.....), aout n'est pas le bon moment pour la thailande ???
les itineraires proposés m'ont l'air extra mais bon a chque fois il faut un boulet pour poser la question suivante et je vais jouer ce role alors la voila :"thailande: risqué ou pas".
Ma question vient du fait que j'ai pu lire il y a peu de temps que dans le sud du pays, ca craignait un max avec les musulmans je crois, bref un souci de religon et il en découlait un nombre de morts important.
La thailande me dit beaucoup mais j'ai pas trop envie de revenir entre 4 planches !!!
Même si je le sais y'a 2 types de reactions
1) si tu crois tout, tu pars jamais !!! et c'est pas faux
2) vas y y'a rien a craindre
moi j'veux juste savoir quelle est le climat là (politique, religieux) en gros y'a beaucoup de risque ou pas et dans quelle partie du pays.
Merci
PS : au niveau climatique (precipitations.....), aout n'est pas le bon moment pour la thailande ???
moi j'veux juste savoir quelle est le climat là (politique, religieux) en gros y'a beaucoup de risque ou pas et dans quelle partie du pays.
PS : au niveau climatique (precipitations.....), aout n'est pas le bon moment pour la thailande ???
Salut Pipol !
Pour ta première question, je ne sais pas te répondre ... C'est à toi de voir ...
Au niveau climat, nous on y va souvent en février et toujours en juillet. Aucun soucis, il y a bien parfois un peu de pluie, mais rien de bien grave. en plus, ça rafraichit et cela donne de belles couleurs aux paysages.
De toutes façons, quel que soit le moment, le lieu, etc ... tu verras, la Thaîlande, c'est super !
Bon voyage ! A +, Sabaïdee
PS : au niveau climatique (precipitations.....), aout n'est pas le bon moment pour la thailande ???
Salut Pipol !
Pour ta première question, je ne sais pas te répondre ... C'est à toi de voir ...
Au niveau climat, nous on y va souvent en février et toujours en juillet. Aucun soucis, il y a bien parfois un peu de pluie, mais rien de bien grave. en plus, ça rafraichit et cela donne de belles couleurs aux paysages.
De toutes façons, quel que soit le moment, le lieu, etc ... tu verras, la Thaîlande, c'est super !
Bon voyage ! A +, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Ouf! Cextra! T'as passé une mauvaise journée! Faut relaxer, respirer un bon coup, quelques jours de congé au besoin!
Je souhaiterais que certrains de mes amis de l'Hexagone relisent leurs notes de cours Histoire du colonialisme! Qu'on parle de l'Espagne, de la France, de l'Angleterre et aujourd'hui des États-Unis, toujours les mêmes conneries, les mêmes attitudes et les mêmes résultats! Dehors, le pied au cul, ceux qui pensent détenir la vérité, qui cherchent à imposer leurs manières de faire, de voir!
Je suis d'un de ces pays qui a subi le colonialisme de la France d'abord et de l'Angleterre ensuite! Le Québec!
Je crois que personne n'a de leçon à faire à quiconque! Il faut respecter les gens comme ils sont! Ils sont chez eux, à nous de s'adapter!
Il faut être prudent dans ses commentaires! Quand j'entends un ressortissant français se plaindre, voir se moquer de l'inefficacité des thais... J'ai envie de vous confier que je suis en France 7 à 8 fois par année, par affaires! Et qu'en Amérique, au Québec plus particulièrement, les anecdotes de l'inefficacté des administrations françaises pourraient occuper de nombreuses soirées! Mais, je me dis que ce sont là des façons de faire propres à la mentalité française que je dois accepter ou rester chez moi!
J'aime beaucoup la France et les français, j'en compte plusieurs parmi mes amis!
Mais, de grâce, un peu de sobriété, de respect dans le langage, dans nos jugements!
Sushifan
Ouf! Cextra! T'as passé une mauvaise journée! Faut relaxer, respirer un bon coup, quelques jours de congé au besoin!
Je souhaiterais que certrains de mes amis de l'Hexagone relisent leurs notes de cours Histoire du colonialisme! Qu'on parle de l'Espagne, de la France, de l'Angleterre et aujourd'hui des États-Unis, toujours les mêmes conneries, les mêmes attitudes et les mêmes résultats! Dehors, le pied au cul, ceux qui pensent détenir la vérité, qui cherchent à imposer leurs manières de faire, de voir!
Je suis d'un de ces pays qui a subi le colonialisme de la France d'abord et de l'Angleterre ensuite! Le Québec!
Je crois que personne n'a de leçon à faire à quiconque! Il faut respecter les gens comme ils sont! Ils sont chez eux, à nous de s'adapter!
Il faut être prudent dans ses commentaires! Quand j'entends un ressortissant français se plaindre, voir se moquer de l'inefficacité des thais... J'ai envie de vous confier que je suis en France 7 à 8 fois par année, par affaires! Et qu'en Amérique, au Québec plus particulièrement, les anecdotes de l'inefficacté des administrations françaises pourraient occuper de nombreuses soirées! Mais, je me dis que ce sont là des façons de faire propres à la mentalité française que je dois accepter ou rester chez moi!
J'aime beaucoup la France et les français, j'en compte plusieurs parmi mes amis!
Mais, de grâce, un peu de sobriété, de respect dans le langage, dans nos jugements!
parce que tu viens en thailande une fois par an tu crois tout savoir???????????
viens vivre ici et on en reparlera
oui nous nous sommes adaptes et oui les thais sont decidement tres monotahces et incapables de retenir quoique ce soit c est pas mechant c est juste VRAI
parce que tu viens en thailande une fois par an tu crois tout savoir???????????
viens vivre ici et on en reparlera
oui nous nous sommes adaptes et oui les thais sont decidement tres monotahces et incapables de retenir quoique ce soit c est pas mechant c est juste VRAI
Erreur! Je connais peu la Thaïlande et je n'ai jamais prétendu le contraire!
Mais je m'y connais en attitude "colonialiste"! Nous subissons au Québec, à une échelle différente bien sûr, une certaine forme de colonialisme de la part de certains ressortissants français et plus lourdement encore des américains!
Dommage que la réflexion, voire l'introspection sur le sujet soit aussi difficile!
Peut-être une prochaine génération!
Bonne chance quand même!
Fin de discussion sur le sujet qui n'est pas l'objet de ce forum.
Mais je m'y connais en attitude "colonialiste"! Nous subissons au Québec, à une échelle différente bien sûr, une certaine forme de colonialisme de la part de certains ressortissants français et plus lourdement encore des américains!
Dommage que la réflexion, voire l'introspection sur le sujet soit aussi difficile!
Peut-être une prochaine génération!
Bonne chance quand même!
Fin de discussion sur le sujet qui n'est pas l'objet de ce forum.
Sushifan
Bonjour à tous,
Je pense tout comme vous qu'il ne faut pas annuler ses périples en Asie. Des catastrophes, il y en a partout à des miliers de km comme près de chez nous, enfin bon ... Je voudrais soliciter vos conseils : voilà je parts en Thaïlande depuis singapour dimanche 16 Janvier. En fait je dispose de 6 jours pour me reposer. Quelles destinations me conseillez vous ? J'aimes les marches en montagne et les plages paradisiaques (mais sans touristes ou le moins possible). Je pensais passer qq jours à KoTao et KoPhaNgan. Qu'en pensez vous ? Quel est le temps en janvier là bas ? Et comment puis je y aller depuis singapour ou kuala lumpur?
Mille merci pour vos réponses ....
A très bientôt.
Je pense tout comme vous qu'il ne faut pas annuler ses périples en Asie. Des catastrophes, il y en a partout à des miliers de km comme près de chez nous, enfin bon ... Je voudrais soliciter vos conseils : voilà je parts en Thaïlande depuis singapour dimanche 16 Janvier. En fait je dispose de 6 jours pour me reposer. Quelles destinations me conseillez vous ? J'aimes les marches en montagne et les plages paradisiaques (mais sans touristes ou le moins possible). Je pensais passer qq jours à KoTao et KoPhaNgan. Qu'en pensez vous ? Quel est le temps en janvier là bas ? Et comment puis je y aller depuis singapour ou kuala lumpur?
Mille merci pour vos réponses ....
A très bientôt.
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International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
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Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.





