Location de voiture bien assurée aux États-Unis
by Willmore06
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
nous envisageons un séjour de 4 semaines aux USA pour visiter les parcs de l'ouest américains. Nous louerons une voiture et séjournerons dans les campings et les hôtels. Concernant la location d'une auto, je suis un peu perdu dans les assurances...je souhaite être totalement couvert, sans franchise, mais je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre. Sur les sites de location, peu d'agences proposent une assurance "tout compris" mais je ne veux pas non plus me faire refiler des options inutiles. Précision, je paierai cette location avec une carte bancaire Visa Premium qui inclut déjà des assurances. Pouvez-vous me conseiller? merci!
visa premium donc ne prends aucune option d'assurance en plus.
Bonjour
TOUS les grands loueurs EN DIRECT sur leurs sites europeens vous proposent des forfaits avec TOUTES les assurances incluses
En plus, avec les codes de reduction kivontbien, c'est moins cher que par les intermediaires;
Essayez HERTZ qui donne actuellement les meilleurs resultats avec le code remise CDP 510000 et le coupon PC 192021. Vous aurez toutes les assurances : CDW/LDW (accidents et vols) sans franchise, la RC à 1 M$, l'assistance et le pennage, la garantie pneus, bris de glac, toit, bas de caisse...
Essayez HERTZ qui donne actuellement les meilleurs resultats avec le code remise CDP 510000 et le coupon PC 192021. Vous aurez toutes les assurances : CDW/LDW (accidents et vols) sans franchise, la RC à 1 M$, l'assistance et le pennage, la garantie pneus, bris de glac, toit, bas de caisse...
Les sites do location effectivement entretiennent la confusion en proposant leurs assurances complémentaires alors qu'elles sont inutiles puisque les loueurs proposent systématiquement des forfaits sans franchises dommages et vol. Seulement cela n'est pas mentionné clairement on voit souvent affiché "avec franchise" puis dans les conditions particulières "montant franchise 0". Tout est fait pour entretenir un certain doute et vous encourager à prendre l’assurance complémentaire proposé par le site. Ce n'est pas nouveau mais c'est devenu quasi systématique. Le seul site qui soit clair à ma connaissance c'est celui d'Alamo. En plus le online check-in est un plus et est facile à faire.
Concernant la couverture, petite évolution concernant la conduite hors route revêtues. Un certain nombre de loueurs mentionnent maintenant une interdiction stricte et non plus une non couverture. Un distinguo qui renforce probablement votre responsabilité en cas d'accident.
Concernant la couverture, petite évolution concernant la conduite hors route revêtues. Un certain nombre de loueurs mentionnent maintenant une interdiction stricte et non plus une non couverture. Un distinguo qui renforce probablement votre responsabilité en cas d'accident.
Je tiens à vous remercier pour vos réponses, j'y vois un peu plus clair...
Bonjour
Attention, il ne faut pas confondre les conditions des intermediaires et celles des loueurs
Chez les grands loueurs ALAMO, AVIS et HERTZ, et leur "filiales" , TOUTES les assurances sont comprises dans les forfaits proposés aux europeens sur les sites européens des loueurs. CDW LDW sanns franchise, RC à 1M$, depannage, assistance, pneus, toit, vitres, bas de caisse.
C'est en general tres clair, notamment chez HERTZ qui détaille tout, etat par etat car les legislations ne sont pas forcement les mêmes selon les etats.
Si vous passez par un intermediaire, tout va dependre du contrat qu'il a passé avec le loueur. Certains jouent meme leur propre assureur et les conditions d'assurance du loueur n'interviennent pas. Ce qui est indiqué sur le site du loueur n'est pas forcement applicable si on vient par un intermediaire.
Chez les grands loueurs ALAMO, AVIS et HERTZ, et leur "filiales" , TOUTES les assurances sont comprises dans les forfaits proposés aux europeens sur les sites européens des loueurs. CDW LDW sanns franchise, RC à 1M$, depannage, assistance, pneus, toit, vitres, bas de caisse.
C'est en general tres clair, notamment chez HERTZ qui détaille tout, etat par etat car les legislations ne sont pas forcement les mêmes selon les etats.
Si vous passez par un intermediaire, tout va dependre du contrat qu'il a passé avec le loueur. Certains jouent meme leur propre assureur et les conditions d'assurance du loueur n'interviennent pas. Ce qui est indiqué sur le site du loueur n'est pas forcement applicable si on vient par un intermediaire.
Les assurances des cartes premium ne servent à rien aux usa car en passant EN DIRECT par les grands loueurs toutes les assurances sont incluses.
Pour des locations hors usa, oui, payer la location avec la carte premium est plus que recommandé , surtout si des franchises s'appliquent.
Les cartes premium vont encore plus loin aujourd'hui, elle définissent un valeur max de véhicule à 50.000 euros et exclut de nombreuse marque à présent, les marques de luxe bien évidemment.
À savoir aussi qu'au usa, le off road, dirt road, gravel road et autres pistes sont non couvertes. En les empruntant , vous êtes sans assurances.
Pour des locations hors usa, oui, payer la location avec la carte premium est plus que recommandé , surtout si des franchises s'appliquent.
Les cartes premium vont encore plus loin aujourd'hui, elle définissent un valeur max de véhicule à 50.000 euros et exclut de nombreuse marque à présent, les marques de luxe bien évidemment.
À savoir aussi qu'au usa, le off road, dirt road, gravel road et autres pistes sont non couvertes. En les empruntant , vous êtes sans assurances.
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******À savoir aussi qu'au usa, le off road, dirt road, gravel road et autres pistes sont non couvertes. En les empruntant, vous êtes sans assurances****
Cette phrase est souvent oubliée ou simplement ignorée et quand la malchance arrive à +100km du plus proche voisin, le temps parrait très long et très très onéreux.
Cette phrase est souvent oubliée ou simplement ignorée et quand la malchance arrive à +100km du plus proche voisin, le temps parrait très long et très très onéreux.
Bonjour
Pour les exclusions de la carte premier, c'est plus compliqué que ca :
Un vehicule tout terrain (Ca correspond à quoi d'ailleurs) est agréé, sauf lorsqu'il est utilisé hors reseau routier.
Mais il y a aussi l'exclusions de certaines marques partout . Certaines sont completement anecdotiques (Bricklin qui n'est plus fabriquée depuis 25 ans, PIERCE ARROW et PACKARD) ou Bugatti... Mais il y a JEEP et lesutilitaires Chevrolet , ou là ca devient genant.
Pour CARIGAMI, ce n'est même pas un intermediaire, mais un comprateur de prix qui vous renvoie chez un intermediaire qui lui même à un contrat general avec un loueur... Beaucoup d'intermediaires donc, et les conditions de locations seront celles de l'intermediaire.
Surtout pour le prix, aux USA c'est plus cher qu'en direct chez le loueur.
Pour CARIGAMI, ce n'est même pas un intermediaire, mais un comprateur de prix qui vous renvoie chez un intermediaire qui lui même à un contrat general avec un loueur... Beaucoup d'intermediaires donc, et les conditions de locations seront celles de l'intermediaire.
Surtout pour le prix, aux USA c'est plus cher qu'en direct chez le loueur.
Pour rester dans le même ordre d'idée, j'aime bien louer directement par Alamo, qui a des sites européens ( pour la Suisse nous sommes liés au site allemand, il y a un site alamo.fr), cela me parait devoir simplifier les démarches s'il devait y avoir un problème, que perso nous n'avons heureusement jamais eu. Dans un système comparateur-broker-loueur j'imagine que tout le monde se défausse sur l'autre en cas de souci, et pour faire des démarches d'ordre légal aux USA, bonjour....
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
Bonjour,
Je viens du secteur de la location de voiture. Les franchises d'assurance aux États-Unis sont souvent égales à zéro. Ainsi, de nombreux sites indiquent « sans franchise » (Carigami, AutoEurope, Alamo). Il s'agit d'une spécificité propre à cette destination à vrai dire.
Je ne prendrais pas d'assurances supplémentaires, surtout si vous possédez une carte premium (vérifiez votre contrat avant tout de même, la carte est là aussi pour vous faire économiser, autant en profiter).
Je viens du secteur de la location de voiture. Les franchises d'assurance aux États-Unis sont souvent égales à zéro. Ainsi, de nombreux sites indiquent « sans franchise » (Carigami, AutoEurope, Alamo). Il s'agit d'une spécificité propre à cette destination à vrai dire.
Je ne prendrais pas d'assurances supplémentaires, surtout si vous possédez une carte premium (vérifiez votre contrat avant tout de même, la carte est là aussi pour vous faire économiser, autant en profiter).
Bonjour
J'ai moi aussi ete longtemps dans le secteur de la location de vehicule.
Je vous ferais remarquer que vous citez dans les loueurs : ALAMO, qui est effectivement un des 3 grands loueurs nord americain, Autoeurope, qui n'est pas un loueur mais un intermediaire, et CArigami, qui est lui un comparateur de prix des intermediaires...
Il y a donc des situations tres differentes, car certains intermediaires jouent leur propre role d'assureur, et donc peuvent prevoir des franchises que ne prevoient pas les loueurs si on loue en direct sur leurs sites. il y a aussi les degats aux toit, bas de caisse, vitres ou pneus qui ne sont pas toujours couverts par les intermediaires.
Enfin, certains "petits" loueurs ou low cost peuvent prevoir des conditions d'assurances plus restrictives que les grands. Je pense à SIXT, qui prevoit une franchise rachetable, et meme apres ne prevoit les assurances que pour les etats limitrophes à l'etat de la prise de la location.
Je vous ferais remarquer que vous citez dans les loueurs : ALAMO, qui est effectivement un des 3 grands loueurs nord americain, Autoeurope, qui n'est pas un loueur mais un intermediaire, et CArigami, qui est lui un comparateur de prix des intermediaires...
Il y a donc des situations tres differentes, car certains intermediaires jouent leur propre role d'assureur, et donc peuvent prevoir des franchises que ne prevoient pas les loueurs si on loue en direct sur leurs sites. il y a aussi les degats aux toit, bas de caisse, vitres ou pneus qui ne sont pas toujours couverts par les intermediaires.
Enfin, certains "petits" loueurs ou low cost peuvent prevoir des conditions d'assurances plus restrictives que les grands. Je pense à SIXT, qui prevoit une franchise rachetable, et meme apres ne prevoit les assurances que pour les etats limitrophes à l'etat de la prise de la location.
Bonjour Jpg13,
Merci pour la réponse. Néanmoins, je ne parle nullement de loueurs dans mon commentaire mais de "sites". J'aurais en effet être plus précis.
Ce que je voulais dire, peu importe l'intermédiaire, qu'il y en ai un, deux, trois ou cinquante, si le loueur sur place ne demande pas de franchise, ça ne sert à rien de prendre une assurance complémentaire de l'intermédiaire, et ce encore moins si on possède une carte Premium.
Par ailleurs, comme vous le mentionnez, il y a des cas différents d'une enseigne à l'autre et il est un exercice compliqué de faire des généralités.
Le secret reste de (prendre le temps de) lire les conditions de location =)
Merci pour la réponse. Néanmoins, je ne parle nullement de loueurs dans mon commentaire mais de "sites". J'aurais en effet être plus précis.
Ce que je voulais dire, peu importe l'intermédiaire, qu'il y en ai un, deux, trois ou cinquante, si le loueur sur place ne demande pas de franchise, ça ne sert à rien de prendre une assurance complémentaire de l'intermédiaire, et ce encore moins si on possède une carte Premium.
Par ailleurs, comme vous le mentionnez, il y a des cas différents d'une enseigne à l'autre et il est un exercice compliqué de faire des généralités.
Le secret reste de (prendre le temps de) lire les conditions de location =)
Bonjour
deja je m'excuse si j'ai pu paraitre sec avec vous.
Je voulais simplement faire remarquer que parmi les 3 sites cités (je confirme que vous ne dites pas loueurs) il y a les 3 types de contrats possibles, et qu'il ne faut surtout pas regarder les conditions de location du loueur si on passe par un intermediaire.
On passe un contrat avec un intermediaire, qui lui même a negocié et conclu des conditions particulieres aupres d'un loueur, et ce sont ces conditions qui s'appliquent, notamment en matière d'assurance.
deja je m'excuse si j'ai pu paraitre sec avec vous.
Je voulais simplement faire remarquer que parmi les 3 sites cités (je confirme que vous ne dites pas loueurs) il y a les 3 types de contrats possibles, et qu'il ne faut surtout pas regarder les conditions de location du loueur si on passe par un intermediaire.
On passe un contrat avec un intermediaire, qui lui même a negocié et conclu des conditions particulieres aupres d'un loueur, et ce sont ces conditions qui s'appliquent, notamment en matière d'assurance.
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So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
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Phoenix:
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Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.






