Mariage civil mixte franco-algérien en Algérie
by Venadark
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
quels sont les problèmes éventuels qui peuvent intervenir dans le cas d'un mariage entre une femme française qui n'envisage pas de se convertir à l'islam et un kabyle? Le mariage ne sera que civil (aucune religion) et célébré en kabylie. Merci pour toutes vos réponses
Bsr,
La Kabylie ( el les Citoyens qui y'Habitent) fais partie de la République Algérienne, et elle est soumise au Lois de la République….
Et les lois ici sont tiré de la religion de l Etat qui est l Islam….., et d après les dernières Loi de Fev.2009, les Imams ne pouvons plus célébré une cérémonie de Mariage religieux , avant que les le couple passe a la Mairie et avoir l'acte de mariage inscrit en bon et en forme.
Alors je pense bien (si je me trombe pas car je suis pas certain), que ton Mariage ne peut avoir lieu légalement devant un Officier de l'état Civil en Algérie.
Bonne Chance………………………………………………………………Tamurtanagh.
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Depuis quand une femme doit se convertir en Islam ! Si tu te prends la peine de lire le coran en francais (ca existe) tu liras que la femme garde sa religion qu'elle peut pratiquer librement, que le mari doit l'accompagner si elle le souhaite (église, temple, ...) et c'est tout !
Alors où est le problème ?
LILI
Alors où est le problème ?
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Un homme non musulman doit se convertir pour se marier avec une femme musulmane, mais JAMAIS une femme chretienne ou juive doit se convertir à l'Islam ! C'est clair, net et précis ! Ce n'est pas "tout ce qu'on a entendu" qui doit te permettre d'en savoir plus, tu n'as qu'à lire le Coran où tout est écrit et si tu veux encore en savoir plus, tu appelles la Grande Mosquée de Paris ou la Direction des Affaires Religieuses d'Alger !
Et je trouve désolant que des musulmans qui sont censés de connaitre le contenu du Coran sont capables de semer le doute !
Juste encore une précision, je suis passée par là et je sais de quoi je parle ! M'étant mariée au Sahara, nous avons fait une prière et une petite cérémonie religieuse qui m'a bcp touché... mais je n'étais pas directement concernée mais j'ai quand mêem eu droit à une bénédiction comme tu pourrais le faire, si tu le souhaites en France, à l'église avec ton mari musulman... (pas une messe avec communion mais une bénédiction)...
La mairie n'a rien à voir avec le mariage religieux, d'ailleurs un imam n'a plus le droit de faire le mariage religieux AVANT le civil ! Ca se fait après !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J'espère cette fois ci avoir été assez clair !
LILI
Juste encore une précision, je suis passée par là et je sais de quoi je parle ! M'étant mariée au Sahara, nous avons fait une prière et une petite cérémonie religieuse qui m'a bcp touché... mais je n'étais pas directement concernée mais j'ai quand mêem eu droit à une bénédiction comme tu pourrais le faire, si tu le souhaites en France, à l'église avec ton mari musulman... (pas une messe avec communion mais une bénédiction)...
La mairie n'a rien à voir avec le mariage religieux, d'ailleurs un imam n'a plus le droit de faire le mariage religieux AVANT le civil ! Ca se fait après !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
J'espère cette fois ci avoir été assez clair !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Juste une précision que j'espère n'a pas été oublié dans votre soucis "religieux" pour vous marier en mariage mixte, est ce que vous êtes au courant qu'il faut obtenir d'abord le CCM auprès du Consulat de France en Algérie et auprès de la Wilaya, une autorisation de mariage par les autorités algériennes (service des étrangers, enquête Police) ! Sans ces 2 documents pas de mariage civil en Algérie et pas de transcription de votre mariage à Nantes, donc pas de livret de famille français et pas de visa conjoint !
La liste d'attente pour RV consulat est très longue... il faut s'y prendre à l'avance !
Bon courage !
LILI
La liste d'attente pour RV consulat est très longue... il faut s'y prendre à l'avance !
Bon courage !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
tu dois savoir que vos enfants seront automatiquement musulmans
cette réponse me rassure définitivement
nous nous en tiendrons à un mariage civil en algérie ; ce qui nous importe c'est d'etre mari et femme, et d'être heureux ; la religion c'est autre chose. en ce qui concerne les démarches administratives, nous avons déjà pris les renseignements
merci beaucoup pour toutes ces précisions
Bonjour,
A mon point de vue, La Religion c qqs chose qui s est ancré dans la vie quotidienne des Algériens……les gens qui prétendent le contraire ; il faut déchiffrer pkoi ?!?!?! Vrai Dilemme… !!!.. (Je sais que mon avis ne va pas plaire à tout le monde, mais c mon opinion).
Bonne Chance et Bon courage dans tes démarches………Tamurtanagh
A mon point de vue, La Religion c qqs chose qui s est ancré dans la vie quotidienne des Algériens……les gens qui prétendent le contraire ; il faut déchiffrer pkoi ?!?!?! Vrai Dilemme… !!!.. (Je sais que mon avis ne va pas plaire à tout le monde, mais c mon opinion).
Bonne Chance et Bon courage dans tes démarches………Tamurtanagh
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Bonjour,
C'est rare, mais pour une fois je fais partie de ceux à qui ton avis va plaire! La religion quoi qu'ils en disent est indissociable de la vie courante!
je ne veux pas dire apr là qu'elle doit se convertir, mais il faut compter avec! D'ailleurs beaucoup d' expressions populaires font reference à la religion!
SO
effectivement, la religion PEUT faire partie de la vie quotidienne, mais là c'est juste une question de philosophie, chacun la sienne. Pourquoi serait-ce l'épouse qui devrait changer de religion ? Pour simplifier les choses chacun garde ses convictions, et respecte celles de l'autre, ça fait aussi partie de la vie quotidienne en couple.
ce n'est pas l'epouse qui change de religion mais le mari si il n'est pas musulman.
Et dans votre cas, les enfants seront musulmans et ce qui va avec circoncision et cie
Et dans votre cas, les enfants seront musulmans et ce qui va avec circoncision et cie
bonjour
pour la convertion a l'islam ca c'est ps ton cas elle est obligatoire pour les hommes francais et non pour les femmes
les hommes se reconverties a l'islam pour se marié et personne n'oblige que la personne resera musulmane ca c'est surtt pr faire le mariage c'est tt
pour ton cas il est simple tu demandera a ton mari de faire l'autorisation du mariage il va cherché se papier de la wilaya de sa résidance autre temps toi tu prends un rdv pour le ccm dans le consulat ou tt mari dépends si c'est un kabyle donc il doit etre de béjaya ou tizi donc il dépend d'alger et avec alger c'est trop rapide.
si ta besoin de d'autres questions je suis la.
Mon futur pays c'est mon pays actuel, en l'occurence, la France
d'un commun accord, nous vivrons en France, j'y ai une situation professionnelle que je ne retrouverais jamais ailleurs. Je sais, vous allez me dire : attention t'es peut etre tombée sur un mec qui ne cherche que des papiers français. Ca aussi nous en avons parlé et reparlé. Nous savons aussi que nous devrons attendre longtemps avant d'être effectivement réunis, en France. Mais cela dit : la Kabylie est une très belle région, J'ai déjà eu l'occasion de la visiter au mois de mai, et j'y retourne en novembre. Les habitants sont très accueillants, et j'adore ma future belle famille.
Le mariage civil n'existe pas en Algérie ni au Maroc d'ailleurs, une femme chretienne n'est pas obligée de se convertir à l'Islam pour se marier.
Tu peux te marier religieusement sans etre converti.
Le mariage civil n'existe pas en Algérie ni au Maroc d'ailleurs, une femme chretienne n'est pas obligée de se convertir à l'Islam pour se marier.
Tu peux te marier religieusement sans etre converti.
Algerie: " d après les dernières Loi de Fev.2009, les Imams ne pouvons plus célébré une cérémonie de Mariage religieux , avant que les le couple passe a la Mairie ( aprés avoir fournis leur dossier au Chef De l' etat Civil) et avoir l'acte de mariage inscrit en bon et en forme". ( Mariage Civil)...😉.
Algerie: " d après les dernières Loi de Fev.2009, les Imams ne pouvons plus célébré une cérémonie de Mariage religieux , avant que les le couple passe a la Mairie ( aprés avoir fournis leur dossier au Chef De l' etat Civil) et avoir l'acte de mariage inscrit en bon et en forme". ( Mariage Civil)...😉.
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Algerie: " d après les dernières Loi de Fev.2009, les Imams ne pouvons plus célébré une cérémonie de Mariage religieux , avant que les le couple passe a la Mairie ( aprés avoir fournis leur dossier au Chef De l' etat Civil) et avoir l'acte de mariage inscrit en bon et en forme". ( Mariage Civil)...
A la suite d'une Fatwa de 2006 cliquer sur ce lien http://actualite.el-annabi.com/article.php3?id_article=2901 Mais le mariage civil dans les pays musulmans est basé sur les sourates du Coran, et il n'est pas un mariage laïque. Fayd
Cordialement
Fayd
Bonjour,
Oui bien sure…Tous ce qui concerne l état civil et la Justice est basé sur L islam en Algérie étant donné que l Islam est la Religion de l Etat ( paragraphe n° 2 de la constitution Algérienne).
Mais cette Loi de Février 209 est venue pour mettre terme au Mariage Fictif, Mariage Bidon, Mariage « Ourfi » , L’age n est pas légal, etc.….Et avant cette loi , ts les gens qui Font recours vers le Mariage Religieux ( Présence de l Imam et deux Témoin) , c parce que le Loi ne leur permet pas de se marier , car ils ont un Empêchement Légal….alors ils essayent de Contourner la loi .😉
Alors, maintenant on dois passer a l Etat Civil (Le couple), avec un dossier (Copie de l extrait de Niassance, Copie de C. d Identité, et copie du carte sanguin), en plus de deux témoins, et le Chef d état Civil vérifie ts ça, et les identité du Couple, et il procède au Mariage, avec délivrance d attestation de mariage sur place.
Mais l Imam ne t offre rien…😉....et comme ts les Imams en Algérie sont des Fonctionnaire du Ministère des affaires religieuse, donc il ont intérêt a appliqué les lois , si non il risque leur poste et des ballades dans les couloirs de des tribunaux…😄..
Bonne soirée………………………………….Kaiser
Oui bien sure…Tous ce qui concerne l état civil et la Justice est basé sur L islam en Algérie étant donné que l Islam est la Religion de l Etat ( paragraphe n° 2 de la constitution Algérienne).
Mais cette Loi de Février 209 est venue pour mettre terme au Mariage Fictif, Mariage Bidon, Mariage « Ourfi » , L’age n est pas légal, etc.….Et avant cette loi , ts les gens qui Font recours vers le Mariage Religieux ( Présence de l Imam et deux Témoin) , c parce que le Loi ne leur permet pas de se marier , car ils ont un Empêchement Légal….alors ils essayent de Contourner la loi .😉
Alors, maintenant on dois passer a l Etat Civil (Le couple), avec un dossier (Copie de l extrait de Niassance, Copie de C. d Identité, et copie du carte sanguin), en plus de deux témoins, et le Chef d état Civil vérifie ts ça, et les identité du Couple, et il procède au Mariage, avec délivrance d attestation de mariage sur place.
Mais l Imam ne t offre rien…😉....et comme ts les Imams en Algérie sont des Fonctionnaire du Ministère des affaires religieuse, donc il ont intérêt a appliqué les lois , si non il risque leur poste et des ballades dans les couloirs de des tribunaux…😄..
Bonne soirée………………………………….Kaiser
"La Vallée du Mzab, un Bijoux de l'architecture, cette Merveille en plein désert, qui ne cesse de fasciner les architectes du monde entier, c'est une perle Rare et nous devons la préserver et nous en Inspirer dans le but de préserver notre patrimoine et de perpétuer notre Culture". (UNESCO).
Mais ce n'est pas comme en Tunisie, où lemaire cite du Coran au moment du mariage ! En Algérie, tu passes au service de l'état civil, tu signes les registres et puis tu retires ton livret de famille signé par l'autorité civile. Et puis c'est tout !
Après pour ceux qui le souhaitent ils feront le mariage avec un imam, avec ou sans fête !
LILI
Après pour ceux qui le souhaitent ils feront le mariage avec un imam, avec ou sans fête !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
En Algérie, tu passes au service de l'état civil, tu signes les registres et puis tu retires ton livret de famille signé par l'autorité civile. Et puis c'est tout !
Merci Tassili pour les précisions, mais les conséquences sont les mêmes, pour la suite, et c'est sur la base des sourates du Coran. Fayd
Merci Tassili pour les précisions, mais les conséquences sont les mêmes, pour la suite, et c'est sur la base des sourates du Coran. Fayd
Cordialement
Fayd
Quelles conséquences pour ce couple mixte ? Ils se marieront en Algérie, ensuite transcription en France. Ils viendront s'installer en France, et le contrat d'intégration sera signé après avoir suivi une formation civique. Le couple ne sera pas soumis au code de famille en Algérie ! En cas de divorce, ca sera fait en France selon les lois républicaines et laiques !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
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Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?




