bonjour a tous!
je sais que "l union fait la force " et je suis un peu depitee par ce que je lis sur les forum concernant le manque d entraide entre francais lorsque de nouveaux s installent...qui peu m eclairer sur ce sujet?....nous comptons nous installer a marrakech, certains d entre vous pourraient ils nous donner des conseils? merci!
ceci n etait pas une critique mais une demande de conseil.
dans beaucoup de pays les francais se file bcp de coup de main lors de l installation de nouveaux venu...
en fait dans votre reponse je ne vois pas non plus d aide, si ce n est que de me prendre pour une debile ignorante...
merci d oublier de repondre
ne l'ecoute pas, elle dit n'importe quoi et tu n'es pas la seule qu'elle envoie bouler, en plus elle a editer son message apres ton 2 eme pour pas qu'on te defende
pour ce qui en est de l'entraide entre francais il y a la categorie de ceux qui voient midi a leurs porte, preferent financer la bonniche et en faire un membre de la famille (qui disparaitra une nuit ou lors du voyage des maitres de maison en ayant vider leur riad ou villa) exhiber leurs 4X4 dedouané qui leur est revenu plus cher que s'ils l'avaient acheter sur place et toiser les autres francais en etant au bras d'un etalon gigolo ayant l'age du petit fils de la dame ou d'une pouf ramassée dans une boite que de donner un coup de main a celui qui vient s'instaler et qui n'est pas forcement riche a million, s'entraider ne veut pas dire donner des ronds mais un conseil par ci par la, une bonne adresse pour pas se faire plumer, faire ensemble des sorties, arroser les plantes et nourrir les animaux en cas de voyage etc ce qui ne coute rien mais rapporte beaucoup en bonnes actions comme font par exemple les marocains etablis en france qui sont hyper solidaires entre eux et pourraient dire "ben non chacun pour soi ils sont comme nous en france, qu'ils se demerdent" jamais ils ne songent meme a y penser !!!
sinon les expats longue durée s'entraident bien entre eux, habitent des quartiers melangés, connaissent des rudiments d'arabe (apprendre cette langue est difficille si on ne l'a pas fait depuis tout petit) se melent a la population locale quand ce n'est pas un mariage mixte sincere ayant duré au dela de la naturalisation du conjoint, baroudeurs ayant silloner le pays en long et en large tout en connaissant evidement son histoire, on de l'amertume sur la france detruite par une categorie d'etrangers profiteurs et violents toujours plaints alors qu'eux memes doivent se debrouiller seuls avec les moyens du bord dans les pays d'origine de ces memes etrangers, connaissent les combines, les tabous, ce qu'il faut dire et a qui et surtout a quel moment, bref ceux la ont mon estime et malheureusement ils ne sont pas beaucoup mais on en trouve comme sur ce forum ou de vraies amitiées sont nées entre certains membres.
le consulat de france a un service social ou vont quelques expatriés dont les retraites insufisantes de france (tous n'y ont pas bosser 42 ans d'affilé) ou ont des retraites locales ne permettant pas de joindre les 2 bouts, en france tous croient mordicus que les expatriés sont forcement tres riches et fuient l'isf, ce qui est archi faux, je connait des francais qui ont 300 euros pour -sur-vivre et pas droit au minimum vieillesse ni a aucune aide sociale comme on en trouve en hexagone puisque residants a l'etranger, on enleve la CFE, le loyer, les factures, il reste rien pour manger.
3 ans au Maroc et je fréquente très peu mes compatriotes car leurs sujets de conversation me gavent. Tout tourne autour des mêmes choses :
- Se plaindre de la femme de ménage (sujet N°1)
- Se plaindre de l'absence de bon fromage ou de bon vin
- Se plaindre de la qualité de travail des marocains
Et dès qu'un lance l'un des 3 sujets préférés, c'est la festival de "Ah mais attends, je t'ai pas raconté ce qui m'est arrivé...".
je disais que le monde de l'expatriaton n'était pas un monde de bisounours, et que si l'union fait la force, comme en parle justine, je ne croyais pas que cette maxime soit à l'ordre du jour, aussi bien à Marrakech qu'ailleurs. Hélas d'ailleurs;
je ne prends pas justine pour une debile non, loin de là. je lui demandais si elle connaissait deja marrakech. et lui demandait si elle était deja allée sur les sites d'expat;
oui, on peut aussi rencontrer sur les forums de futurs amis et des gens sympas qui aident. j'en sais qq chose.
A quelques exceptions près, dont certaines rencontrées sur le forum, les français de Marrakech me gavent.
La description qu'en fait malouf est parfaitement réaliste. Je rajoute en plus que ces trois sujets de conversation, et particulièrement le troisième, ils n'hésitent absolument pas à les avoir devant mon mari, qui est "visiblement marocain". La situation à Ouarzazate n'est pas très différente d'ailleurs.
Ceux qui sont agréables et qu'on a envie de fréquenter et d'aider sont justement ceux qui n'ont pas le réflexe "francophone".
Par ailleurs, vu le nombre de français qui vivent à Marrakech, on ne peut pas dire qu'on soit dans une terre lointaine, inconnue, pleine de dangers ; dans certains quartiers, c'est plus une banlieue parisienne qu'une ville marocaine. Donc après si ça te choque qu'entre marseillais on ne s'entraide pas à Paris... le rapport de population doit être à peu près identique.
J'ai pas mal roulé ma bosse avant le Maroc, et j'ai vécu dans plusieurs pays étrangers. J'ai toujours trouvé plus d'aide, d'accueil et une ambiance plus sympa dans les associations locales, avec les gens du pays, que dans les groupes de "français entre français".
Enfin, il est clair que souvent le "nouveau" vient s'installer pour faire "encore un riad, encore une maison d'hôte", et donc prendre sa part sur un gâteau qui se rétrécit de plus en plus. Le bon sens économique prime aussi sur une certaine sentimentalité qui consisterait à dire "oh les français, c'est des français, ils sont surement sympas, allez je vais les aider".
Comme j'en suis le meilleur exemple, on peut être une française expatriée en étant infréquentable... moi j'attends de connaitre les gens avant de les aider.
Sinon pour les conseils pratiques, tu as :
- ce forum, pour certains aspects
- les forums d'expat effectivement
- les services du consulat
- le CRI qui fait tout ce qu'il peut pour aider les étrangers à investir
Déjà que le Français en France passe son temps à se plaindre, pourquoi veux tu que ça change quand il devient expatrié ? 😉
Ce sont simplement les sujets qui changent ...😏
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