Obtenir un voucher pour le visa russe
by Christhalie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
Nous avons récemment décidé un voyage à Moscou/St Petersbourg pour la fin de l'année.
Je n'avais pas envisagé à quel point les formalités pour obtenir un visa sont compliquées - le mot est très très faible -...
Mais bon, je persite !
Billets et hôtels sont réservés... Reste le visa...
J'ai contacté une agence recommandée par le GR (à Paris bien sûr), mais... pas très envie d'envoyer nos 5 passeports par la poste, et sachant qu'il y a un consulat à Marseille, ai décidé de me débrouiller toute seule comme une grande !
Donc, j'ai :
- passeports en règle (valables 6 mois après retour + 2 pages vierges) ;
- attestations d'ssurance en règle (demandée via net ou tel auprès de carte visa ou mastercard) ;
- formulaire ;
Et là, la prise de tête commence...
Comment obtenir les fameux vouchers ???????????????????????????
Le consulat, que j'ai pu joindre par téléphone, me dit que je peux les demander directement à l'hôtel... Mais je suis passée par un site de résa, et ma résa est annulable jusqu'à la veille du départ, donc non règlée... Je me demande même si l'hôtel me connait à ce jour...
Suis je donc obligée de passer par une agence, à laquelle je devrais juste donner le nom des hôtels réservés, et, qui moyennant finances et un coup de baguette magique , me délivrera ce précieux voucher ?
En fait, j'ai l'impression, après avoir lu pleins de conversations sur les forums, qu'il n'est pas nécesaire d'avoir une résa d'hôtel pour obtenir ce voucher ??? Ce document est il juste officiellement bidon ???
Après tout peu importe, mais dites moi comment faire !!!
Merci d'avance
J'ai contacté une agence recommandée par le GR (à Paris bien sûr), mais... pas très envie d'envoyer nos 5 passeports par la poste, et sachant qu'il y a un consulat à Marseille, ai décidé de me débrouiller toute seule comme une grande !
Bon courage ! .. pourtant dans ce cas c'est plus simple de passer par une agence spécialisée ils savent faire et surtout ils savent qui est acceptable, et si besoin sont a mm de fournir ce voucher cela fait +/-15 ans que, habitant en province, je fais tous mes visas en utilisant Action Visas sans aucun pbl et il y en a d'autres sur la place comme "on dit" et attention la fin d'année c'est bientôt et il faut 2 semaines + délais postaux pour avoir un visa russe ou payer un supplement assez élevé pour réduire a 8j
PS un "vrai voucher" implique normalement un paiement des prestations
Bon courage ! .. pourtant dans ce cas c'est plus simple de passer par une agence spécialisée ils savent faire et surtout ils savent qui est acceptable, et si besoin sont a mm de fournir ce voucher cela fait +/-15 ans que, habitant en province, je fais tous mes visas en utilisant Action Visas sans aucun pbl et il y en a d'autres sur la place comme "on dit" et attention la fin d'année c'est bientôt et il faut 2 semaines + délais postaux pour avoir un visa russe ou payer un supplement assez élevé pour réduire a 8j
PS un "vrai voucher" implique normalement un paiement des prestations
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
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Merci pour cette réponse...
J'ai toujours organisé mes voyages moi même.. Ça fait partie du voyage. Mais là Je n'arrive toujours pas à comprendre pourquoi j'ai ne peux pas faire ce qu'une agence non officielle peut faire pour moi moyennant finances : il ne s'agit pas là du visa pour lequel je trouve normal de payer, mais juste d'une preuve d'hérbegement... 45€ par personne, ça faut bien monter le prix de la chambre !
Et puis pourquoi passer par une agence puisque heureusement depuis peu il y a un consulat à marseille, inutile donc de confier les passeports à la poste , il me suffit de réunir les documents, de prendre RDV au consulat, de déposer mon dossier. Le pb c'est ce satané voucher...
Voyager zen, je ne demande que ça mais cette fois ça s'engage mal...je suis certaine que ce parcours du combattant se fera oublier dès l'arrivée à moscou mais quand même...!
PS : le départ est pour le 30 décembre, ça laisse 2 mois... Mais je m'active !
J'ai toujours organisé mes voyages moi même.. Ça fait partie du voyage. !
Moi aussi et peut etre depuis bcp plus longtemps que toi 🙂.. mais tout concept a ses limites .. n'as pas 2 mois mais un peu plus de UN vus les délais consulaires
Moi aussi et peut etre depuis bcp plus longtemps que toi 🙂.. mais tout concept a ses limites .. n'as pas 2 mois mais un peu plus de UN vus les délais consulaires
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Merci...
Donc si je n'ai besoin de rien, je fais appel à vous !
J’ai également effectué moi-même les démarches pour le visa et je suis d’accord avec vous, ça n’est pas si compliqué que cela.
Dans mon cas, l’hôtel m’avait envoyé les vouchers (mais j’avais réservé l’hôtel en direct). Ils m’ont envoyé un formulaire que j’ai dû leur retourner par fax (!) . Et en plus c’était gratuit.
Essayez d’appeler les hôtels que vous avez réservés et s’ils ont bien mention de votre réservation, demandez-leur de vous envoyer les vouchers ? Sinon, annulez votre résa d’hôtel puisqu’elle est annulable et re-réservez directement sur le site de l’hôtel. Après, je comprends que ça peut être compliqué si vous avez plusieurs hôtels.
Essayez d’appeler les hôtels que vous avez réservés et s’ils ont bien mention de votre réservation, demandez-leur de vous envoyer les vouchers ? Sinon, annulez votre résa d’hôtel puisqu’elle est annulable et re-réservez directement sur le site de l’hôtel. Après, je comprends que ça peut être compliqué si vous avez plusieurs hôtels.
MERCI !
Voilà qui répond précisément à ma question ! Je peux donc obtenir mon voucher toute seule comme une grande sans passer par une agence, et, icing on the cake, sans frais !
Je vais essayer de contacter les hôtels (je n'en ai que 2, 1 à moscou et 1 à st petersbourg) dans un premier temps, et, sinon, suivre votre bon conseil : annuler ma résa et ré-réserver directement sur le site de l'hôtel.
Encore mille mercis.
PS si vous avez d'autres bons plans, suis preneuse !
Attention, le voucher est en fait 2 documents : une lettre de confirmation et le voucher à proprement parler. Mais ils sont toujours délivrés ensemble.
Petite précision quant à la gratuité des vouchers via l’hôtel : certains hôtels vous font payer le voucher.
Dans mon cas c’était gratuit, mais l’hôtel se gardait le droit de me prélever 15 euros de frais si j’annulais ma réservation après coup. C'est logique.
D’après ce que j’ai pu comprendre (mais je ne suis pas sûr), les hôtels bons-marché vous font payer les vouchers, les hôtels haut de gamme vous l’offrent.
D’après ce que j’ai pu comprendre (mais je ne suis pas sûr), les hôtels bons-marché vous font payer les vouchers, les hôtels haut de gamme vous l’offrent.
J'avance !
Le pushkainn st pet ma répondu très vite, me propose de m'envoyer mes vouchers moyennant 750 rb par personne...
J'attends une réponse de l'assambleya nikitskaya moscou. Un peu surprise du prix, je pense ne pas être dans du bas de gamme vu les commentaires sur le net, mais bon, tout service a un prix..
Et je préfère cette solution qui consiste à gérer seule plutôt que passer par une agence..
Allez, j'y suis presque !
Bonjour
Un hôtel de "classe" ne fait pas payer votre "voucher"
Il est assez difficile de vous suivre sur le même sujet, dans deux endroits différents.
Si tous vos documents sont corrects, vous n'aurez jamais de problèmes.
Pour votre information, vous allez recevoir une carte d'immigration , à la douane (à remplir par vous ou suivant les douanes vous sera remise remplie). Vous ne devez absolument pas perdre ce papier, il vous sera demandé pour la sortie de la Russie.
Il sera réclamé par votre hôtel avec votre passeport.
Si j'ai bien compris, vous êtes plusieurs. Je vous conseille, à Moscou, de visiter le métro. Vous êtes pas loin d'une station.
Prenez pour une personne;10 voyages. pas cher et le métro est très beau. et vous pourrez faire le tour de Moscou.
Amicalement
P
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L'hôtel, même réservé par une agence ou internet, peut vous délivrer les vouchers. Mais à la condition que le séjour soit réglé. Ceci est un service gratuit ou payant, selon les hôtels.
Passer par une agence pour obtenir le voucher permet de contourner cette difficulté, puisqu'on vous remet un voucher pour un réservation "bidon", mais tout à fait valable.
Passer par une agence pour obtenir le voucher permet de contourner cette difficulté, puisqu'on vous remet un voucher pour un réservation "bidon", mais tout à fait valable.
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Bonjour Christalie
Vous pouvez également commander votre invitation à une agence russe. Il y en a qui proposent des invitations touristiques à 20€ par personne et qui vous les envoie par mail en 24h. Que vous ayez un hôtel ou non, vous aurez ce document. Vous avez raison de déposer vous-même votre dossier au VHS (centre de visa) de Marseille. J’y ai fait ma dernière demande en septembre. Ils sont très efficaces, mais n’oubliez pas de prendre rendez-vous sur leur site http://www.vhs-france.com/main.php
Vous pouvez également commander votre invitation à une agence russe. Il y en a qui proposent des invitations touristiques à 20€ par personne et qui vous les envoie par mail en 24h. Que vous ayez un hôtel ou non, vous aurez ce document. Vous avez raison de déposer vous-même votre dossier au VHS (centre de visa) de Marseille. J’y ai fait ma dernière demande en septembre. Ils sont très efficaces, mais n’oubliez pas de prendre rendez-vous sur leur site http://www.vhs-france.com/main.php
J'ai cessé de m'entêter !
L'hôtel de Moscou ne me répondant pas, j'ai contacté russie autrement hier après midi... j'ai reçu mes 5 vouchers ce matin !!! Pour la modique somme de 17euros par personne ! Au lieu de 45 sur les sites indiqués par le GR... Le petit fûté en dit le plus grand bien...
Je remplis les demandes de visa sur le site de l'ambassade, je prends RDV pour le dépôt du dossier... et à nous la Russie !
Je pense contacter cette angence pour mes billets de train Moscou/St pet, et un guide pour une visite à l'arrivée dans chacune de ces villes.
Je vous tiendrai informés de la suite des évènements, mais je suis reboostée !
merci à tous pour votre aide !
merci à tous pour votre aide !
Bonjour
Pour la façon d'écrire en russe. je ne suis plus habitué au caractères latins.
Pour le russe. et en latin , parfois c'est bizarre. pour les traductions.
Pour ce qui vous concerne; vous ne m'avez pas encore expliqué le nombre de jours que vous souhaitez rester en Russie.
Pour une demande inférieure à 15 jours, vous devez avoir la mention "payé"; en russe. style cachet. sur votre "voucher".
Si votre demande est supérieure à 15 jours, la société qui a délivré votre voucher, signalera ou a signalé qu'elle ne peut pas fournir d'attestation de paiement pour l'hôtel. Vous risquez un refus de visa pour une période supérieure à 15 jours.
Pour 17 euros; c'est acceptable. mais vérifier ce qui est écrit. tout.
Je vous cite: "J'ai cessé de m'entêter ! ". c'est une erreur. IL FAUT PERSÉVÉRER. (autre discussion)
Pour la liaison Saint-Pétersbourg à Moscou , vous pouvez prendre le CAMCAH le "M" signifie "P" . En français le TGV ou Sapsan.
Vous pouvez réserver par internet.
En France, avec VHS, vous devez signer votre demande de visa en noir ou en bleu. je ne sais plus. Pas se tromper. il paraît que c'est un motif de refus.
Vérifier vos photos. elles doivent être conformes.
Pour l'assurance; l'attestation de l'assurance vous couvrant pour les périodes déterminées, ou plus; en Russie est suffisante.
Il n'y a rien de compliqué
L'est, (Pologne, Biélorussie, Ukraine, Allemagne) ne sont pas des caractères latins. à vous de découvrir. mais beaucoup plus sincère.
IMPORTANT.
Réserver, votre avion, votre train , moyen de transport.
Confirmer quand vous avez le visa.
Inutile de dépenser de l'argent pour un refus de visa.
Amicalement
Patrick
Désolé de répondre si tard; j'ai été visité la France.
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Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!