Obtention du visa pakistanais et retour en Europe
by Espritnomade
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Malgre la fin des elections, le mot d'ordre de l'Ambassade de France est malheureusement toujours le meme : pas de lettre d'introduction. Et evidemment pas d'infos sur une eventuelle evolution de la situation. Qui connait un autre chemin pour retourner en Europe sans y laisser toutes ses economies ? Qui a recemment obtenu un visa pakistanais a Paris ? Qui a deja essayer d'envoyer son passeport a Paris pour obtenir ce visa ?
Pour la petite histoire, mon ami suisse a lui obtenu sa lettre dans les 24h et avec le sourire ...... c'est a vous donner envie de faire comme Johnny et de preferre les verts paturages suisses. Le conseil du service consulaire a mon egard a ete beaucoup moins sympathique : interroge sur la non possibilite de poursuite du voyage avec mon compagnon sans visa pakistanais, on m'a gentiment suggere de me separer de lui. Vive la France!
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Salut,
pas de panique.
Tu envois ton passeport directos en france et tu le fais faire a paris.
C'est ce que j'ai fait. Tu peux l'envoyer par speedpost ou DHL.
Mon passeport avec mon nouveau visa paki est arrive ce matin a la poste de panaji.
deuxieme solution tu appelle l'ambassade a Kathmandu et tu leur demande si eux ils delivrent la lettre d'intro. si oui tu peux aller faire un petit tour au nepal, car reste rapide et economique. Voir meme le bangladesh si tu es a l'ouest.
Bonne chance a toi en tout cas.
deuxieme solution tu appelle l'ambassade a Kathmandu et tu leur demande si eux ils delivrent la lettre d'intro. si oui tu peux aller faire un petit tour au nepal, car reste rapide et economique. Voir meme le bangladesh si tu es a l'ouest.
Bonne chance a toi en tout cas.
Le vrai voyage n'a pas de fin.
Merci pour cette reponse. Pour la solution Nepal, tu penses bien que nous y avons pense : je suis a Kathmandou actuellement. Selon notre charmante interlocutrice, le meme mot d'ordre a ete donne a toutes les Ambassades du secteur.
Peux-tu me donner les demarches exactes que tu as entrepris pour demander le visa pakistanais a Paris : Papiers a fournir reglement des frais effectue comment ? tout par courrier ou as tu eu une personne a Paris qui a depose la demande pour toi ? en tout depuis l'envoi du passeport, cela a pris combien de temps ?
Je te remercie pour ton aide qui m'est vraiment precieuse.
Katrin
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Salut,
1) j'envoie mon passeport a ma soeur a paris par speedpost. 2) elle depose la demande de visa a l'ambassade du pakistan a paris
pour la demande de visa il faut que tu telecharge le formulaire de demande sur internet (sur le site d'action visa par exemple), tu envoie le formulaire remplit et signe avec ton passeport. Ensuite il faut un releve de compte du dernier mois, deux photos d'indentite, et une reservation d'hotel.
Pour la reservation d'hotel tu peux la faire par internet et tu donne juste l'email de confirmation. Il faut faire une reservation a islamabad ou karachi de deux ou trois jours dans n'importe quel hotel. J'ai trouve un hotel ou je n'avais pas besoin de faire d'avance de frais, mais il y en a d'autres qui demandent une avance. Dans ce cas la verifie bien que dans les conditions de reservation tu recupere ton avance (c'est generalement le cas).
J'ai fait ca il y a deux semaines et ca a marche tres bien. Je ne peux pas pour autant garantir a 100 pour cent que ca marche pour une raison : Si a l'ambassade il voit sur le passeport que tu es toujours en inde, ils peuvent etre suspicieux. Mais il faut que la personne qui depose la demande ait une reponse toute faite. Du style tu rentre sur paris depuis l'inde juste quelques jours avant de repartir au pakistan par avion et ce n'est pas suffisant en temps pour faire la demande, donc tu la fais faire en avance.
Si tu n'as personne pour faire la demande pour toi, tu peux voir avec le site d'action visa, ou alors demander a une agence de voyage sur paris (il faut les appeler et leur expliquer ta situation).
Voila,
Bonne chance et bon voyage,
1) j'envoie mon passeport a ma soeur a paris par speedpost. 2) elle depose la demande de visa a l'ambassade du pakistan a paris
pour la demande de visa il faut que tu telecharge le formulaire de demande sur internet (sur le site d'action visa par exemple), tu envoie le formulaire remplit et signe avec ton passeport. Ensuite il faut un releve de compte du dernier mois, deux photos d'indentite, et une reservation d'hotel.
Pour la reservation d'hotel tu peux la faire par internet et tu donne juste l'email de confirmation. Il faut faire une reservation a islamabad ou karachi de deux ou trois jours dans n'importe quel hotel. J'ai trouve un hotel ou je n'avais pas besoin de faire d'avance de frais, mais il y en a d'autres qui demandent une avance. Dans ce cas la verifie bien que dans les conditions de reservation tu recupere ton avance (c'est generalement le cas).
J'ai fait ca il y a deux semaines et ca a marche tres bien. Je ne peux pas pour autant garantir a 100 pour cent que ca marche pour une raison : Si a l'ambassade il voit sur le passeport que tu es toujours en inde, ils peuvent etre suspicieux. Mais il faut que la personne qui depose la demande ait une reponse toute faite. Du style tu rentre sur paris depuis l'inde juste quelques jours avant de repartir au pakistan par avion et ce n'est pas suffisant en temps pour faire la demande, donc tu la fais faire en avance.
Si tu n'as personne pour faire la demande pour toi, tu peux voir avec le site d'action visa, ou alors demander a une agence de voyage sur paris (il faut les appeler et leur expliquer ta situation).
Voila,
Bonne chance et bon voyage,
Le vrai voyage n'a pas de fin.
Merci pour cette reponse si bien documentee. Nous allons lancer la procedure des notre retour en Inde. Par contre, je ne vois pas comment l'Ambassade du Pakistan peut ne pas savoir que je suis encore en Inde puisqu'il n'y a pas de sortie indiquee sur le visa indien et que pour sortir de l'Inde, il faut le passeport. Mais il faut bien croire qu'un dieu des voyageurs existe et qu'il a decide de nous accorder sa clemence.
Bonne route a toi.
Katrin
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Bonjour,
Pour la reservation d'hotel tu aurais par hasard le nom d'un hotel ou on peut faire une reservation "ficitve" car c'est vraiment stupide que cette ambassade demande ca pour un pays aussi peu visité.
Ils veulent aussi parfois une attestation de travail. Ca devient tres lourd pire que les pays de lex urss.
merci
N.
Pour la reservation d'hotel tu aurais par hasard le nom d'un hotel ou on peut faire une reservation "ficitve" car c'est vraiment stupide que cette ambassade demande ca pour un pays aussi peu visité.
Ils veulent aussi parfois une attestation de travail. Ca devient tres lourd pire que les pays de lex urss.
merci
N.
"Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage". Marek Halter
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« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
Tu peux trouver des milliers d'hotels sur internet.
J'etais passe par le site de travel & culture services, j'ai reserve trois nuits au Karachi Mehran Hotel.
N'importe quel hotel peut faire l'affaire. Prend plutot des grands hotels, ca fait plus touriste avec de l'argent et c'est peut etre plus rassurant pour eux....
Good luck
J'etais passe par le site de travel & culture services, j'ai reserve trois nuits au Karachi Mehran Hotel.
N'importe quel hotel peut faire l'affaire. Prend plutot des grands hotels, ca fait plus touriste avec de l'argent et c'est peut etre plus rassurant pour eux....
Good luck
Le vrai voyage n'a pas de fin.
salut,
on est dans la meme situation pour le visa pakistanais, on est a katmandu dans un camp site pres de l'ambassade francaise, on est 2 camions pour l'instant et on cherche d'autre personne pour leur mettre la pression.."l'union fait la force" soit disant.enfin bref si vous etes dans le coin, le camp ou on est, est pas mal 50rps nepalais par jour avec toilette et douche(froide).il est sur la meme route que notre ambassade un peu plus bas(a droite si tu face l'ambassade)il y a un garage toyota et c'est juste a cote un petit portail.
salut et bon courage.
freddie
freddie
Bonjour
Je regrette de vous avoir manque, nous sommes deja repartis sur Pokhara. J'ai obtenu mon visa pakistanais sans lettre d'introduction de la France. Par contre, mon compagnon qui est suisse avait sa lettre du service consulaire suisse. C'est d'ailleurs ce service qui nous a conseille de tenter notre chance en mettant en avant que nous avions deja obtenu un visa pakistanais en octobre pour l'aller. A l' ambassade du Pakistan, j'ai ete recu avec beaucoup de gentillesse et l'obtention du visa s'est faite sans probleme.
Sinon, j'envisageais comme vous un sitting devant l'ambassade de France, je me demande pourquoi on se donne autant de peine pour rentrer ...
Bon voyage a vous
Peut etre on se rencontrera si vous arrivez a avoir l'autorisation pour le Pakistan.
Katrin
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Salut, merci pour les conseils😉!
Ca a marche😏, nous sommes alle directement a l'ambassade du pakistan au Nepal, munie d'une lettre de recommandation pour le Pakisatan, faite au Kirgistan, il y a 8 mois.
Le gars de l'entre l'a a peine regarde, et nous sommes passes.
Ensuite rencontre de la secretaire puis du consule, charmants tous les deux.
Il nous a d'abord pose des questions, et refuse notre lettre qui ne venait pas de l'ambassade francaise du Nepal...
"la france est le seul pays europeen qui ne donne pas ses lettres, pourquoi, est ce dangereux, pour les francais specialement?"
"et si je ne vous donnais pas ce visa que ferez vous?"
"et bien un sitting devant notre ambassade"
Il a rit et a fini par nous dire "I will give it to you but you have to educate your people"
Si c'est pas une honte🤪!
Alors le conseil que je peux donnez aux prochains voyageurs, c'est dans un premier lieu de passer dans les ambassades francaise, duNepal et de l'Inde, vous allez vous faire jete, mais je crois qu'il faut marquer le coup et leur mettre un peu la pression... Leur demander une autre solution (ca, ils adorent😛), il faut pas les lacher.
Pour rentree a l'ambassade pakistanaise il faut absolument une lettre! Peut etre meme qu'une lettre de recommandation pour un autre pays peu marche, ou alors en groupe..nous avec une lettre pour deux, nous sommes rentre a 4 plus 2 enfants...et apres tu peux te demerder face au consule!😇
Voila bon courage a tous, lachez pas l'affaire!
laure et freddie
Alors le conseil que je peux donnez aux prochains voyageurs, c'est dans un premier lieu de passer dans les ambassades francaise, duNepal et de l'Inde, vous allez vous faire jete, mais je crois qu'il faut marquer le coup et leur mettre un peu la pression... Leur demander une autre solution (ca, ils adorent😛), il faut pas les lacher.
Pour rentree a l'ambassade pakistanaise il faut absolument une lettre! Peut etre meme qu'une lettre de recommandation pour un autre pays peu marche, ou alors en groupe..nous avec une lettre pour deux, nous sommes rentre a 4 plus 2 enfants...et apres tu peux te demerder face au consule!😇
Voila bon courage a tous, lachez pas l'affaire!
laure et freddie
freddie
Bonjour,
Je comprend avec votre message que vous êtes en camion en Inde. Vous venez de France?
Avec un autre couple d'amis nous partons en juillet en Inde. Nous avons 2 enfants (par couple) et nous voyageons en camion aménagé.
J'aimerais, si vous avez du temps, avoir des infos sur votre voyage, quels sont vos conseils?
On se pose notamment bcp de questions par rapport à la situation au Pakistan. Faut-il que nous prenions nos visas avant de partir. Moi je pensais prendre le visa pour L'Iran et el Pakistan. Par contre l'ambassade du Pakistan à Paris m'avait dit qu'en camion il fallait que nous présentions le visas d'Inde pour obtenir celui du PakistaN . Pensez vous que nous devons négocier autrement, comment avez vous fait?
Merci à tous ceux qui pourrons nous renseigner!
Mathilde
Merci à tous ceux qui pourrons nous renseigner!
Mathilde
On ne va jamais aussi loin que lorsque l'on ne sait pas où l'on va.
Bonjour
voici comment nous avons procede en octobre : visa pour l'Iran a Paris, visa pour le Pakistan et l'Inde a Ankara. Vu l'evolution de la situation et le refus de l'Ambassade de France de faire la fameuse lettre de recommandation, il vaut mieux faire le visa pour le Pakistan de France. Attention, aux dernieres nouvelles, l'Inde ne donne plus que des visas de 3 mois (en tout cas c'est le cas pour les visas delivres au Nepal) et le visa coure a partir du jour ou il est echu...... vous le constatez donc, la principale difficulte pour organiser ce voyage est le parcours des visas ! S'il devient a peu pres evident qu'il ne faut pas compter sur les ambassades francaises ou qu'elles soient, on peut toujours esperer plus de chance dans les autres ambassades (voir l 'accueil chaleureux au Pakistan) ..... ou devenir suisse, une ambassade qui vous depatouille toujours.
Sinon, le Pakistan est un pays qui merite le voyage, mes enfants ont beaucoup aime.
Bon courage a vous
Katrin
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Hello,
nous voyageons en asie centrale direction la chine puis le pakistan via la KKH. La chine ne delivre pas de visa hors pays d'origine hormis peut etre le via de transit, . mais il faut pour cela avoir le visa pakistanais : savez vous s'il est possible de l'obtenir a tachkent, en combien de temps et surtout quand demarre t il apres emission ?
Merci !
nous voyageons en asie centrale direction la chine puis le pakistan via la KKH. La chine ne delivre pas de visa hors pays d'origine hormis peut etre le via de transit, . mais il faut pour cela avoir le visa pakistanais : savez vous s'il est possible de l'obtenir a tachkent, en combien de temps et surtout quand demarre t il apres emission ?
Merci !
Bonjour
aucune ıdee quand au modalite de delivrance a Tachkent - par contre duree du vısa pakıstanaıs : 3 moıs a partır de la date de delıvrance.
Bon voyage
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.





