Par où arriver par voies terrestres en Asie du Sud-Est?
by Bayeteli
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
En privilégiant TOUJOURS les voies terrestres, je me demande ce qui est le plus judicieux en 3 mois
Arriver par Bangkok, Laos, Cambodge, Bangkok
ou
Arriver par Hanoï, Laos, Cambodge, Hanoï
Merci pour vos lumières
Le soleil n'est jamais aussi beau que le jour ou l'on se met en route.......GIONO
ben heuuuu comment dire...
si vous voulez visiter la thailande alors c'est : Bangkok, Laos, Cambodge, Bangkok
si vous voulez visiter le vietnam alors c'est : Hanoï, Laos, Cambodge, Hanoï
Là n'est pas la question, mais merci quand même.... Je reprend donc: je veux visiter le Laos du haut en bas et le Cambodge, est il plus pratique d'arriver par la thailande ou par le vietnam sachant qu'il n'y a pas de liaison direct pour le Laos en avion et que je ne veux pas prendre de lignes intérieures. Voili Voilou c'est a vous
Là n'est pas la question, mais merci quand même.... Je reprend donc: je veux visiter le Laos du haut en bas et le Cambodge, est il plus pratique d'arriver par la thailande ou par le vietnam sachant qu'il n'y a pas de liaison direct pour le Laos en avion et que je ne veux pas prendre de lignes intérieures. Voili Voilou c'est a vous
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...Là n'est pas la question...
Ben oui, mais justement, si vous n'exprimez pas clairement votre besoin, il est difficile d'y répondre correctement. 😉
Par où arriver par voies terrestres en Asie du Sud-Est?
Depuis où ? Vous viendrez de France ? D'Australie ? De Chine ? Parce que selon moi, pour arriver "par voie terrestre" en Asie du sud est, on ne prend pas l'avion 🙂😛
...je ne veux pas prendre de lignes intérieures...
C'est quoi pour vous, une ligne intérieure ? Selon moi, c'est une ligne qui joint 2 villes d'un même pays. Voler de Thaïlande (ou du Vietnam) vers le Laos n'est donc pas une ligne intérieure. 😉
...sachant qu'il n'y a pas de liaison direct pour le Laos en avion...
depuis où ? A ma connaissance, depuis Montpellier, il n'y a pas non plus de liaisons directes vers la Thaïlande ou le Vietnam. 😉
Au 17ème siècle, Boileau écrivait "...Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement - Et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément...". C'est toujours aussi vrai de nos jours 🙂
Ben oui, mais justement, si vous n'exprimez pas clairement votre besoin, il est difficile d'y répondre correctement. 😉
Par où arriver par voies terrestres en Asie du Sud-Est?
Depuis où ? Vous viendrez de France ? D'Australie ? De Chine ? Parce que selon moi, pour arriver "par voie terrestre" en Asie du sud est, on ne prend pas l'avion 🙂😛
...je ne veux pas prendre de lignes intérieures...
C'est quoi pour vous, une ligne intérieure ? Selon moi, c'est une ligne qui joint 2 villes d'un même pays. Voler de Thaïlande (ou du Vietnam) vers le Laos n'est donc pas une ligne intérieure. 😉
...sachant qu'il n'y a pas de liaison direct pour le Laos en avion...
depuis où ? A ma connaissance, depuis Montpellier, il n'y a pas non plus de liaisons directes vers la Thaïlande ou le Vietnam. 😉
Au 17ème siècle, Boileau écrivait "...Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement - Et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément...". C'est toujours aussi vrai de nos jours 🙂
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
je veux visiter le Laos du haut en bas et le Cambodge, est il plus pratique d'arriver par la thailande ou par le vietnam
pour ce que tu veux faire, ça ne s’invente pas, il faut arriver a pied par la chine, par exemple par kunming et par mengla (xishuangbana) ou par la frontière lao-chinoise entre meuang kham et lan toui, situé au point le plus septentrional du Laos, dans la province de Phongsaly ensuite tu prends un avion au cambodge pour retourner en chine
comme tu as oublie de dire quand tu partais, c est difficile de te conseiller par rapport aux parametres climatiques et par rapport au prix des avions, je dirais juste que ces derniers temps, Vietnam Airlines semble avoir décidé de faire des prix très compétitif sur les vols DIRECT depuis Paris par rapport à ce qui se fait en vol DIRECT vers Bangkok
pour ce que tu veux faire, ça ne s’invente pas, il faut arriver a pied par la chine, par exemple par kunming et par mengla (xishuangbana) ou par la frontière lao-chinoise entre meuang kham et lan toui, situé au point le plus septentrional du Laos, dans la province de Phongsaly ensuite tu prends un avion au cambodge pour retourner en chine
comme tu as oublie de dire quand tu partais, c est difficile de te conseiller par rapport aux parametres climatiques et par rapport au prix des avions, je dirais juste que ces derniers temps, Vietnam Airlines semble avoir décidé de faire des prix très compétitif sur les vols DIRECT depuis Paris par rapport à ce qui se fait en vol DIRECT vers Bangkok
Merci Renaud pour ton effort, quand on veut on peut....
Je pars en janvier, février, mars 2016
Quand je parle de ligne intérieure, c'est intérieur a l'Asie du sud est, sinon c'est une ligne internationale
je pars en avion de Paris et je voudrais juste savoir s'il est plus pratique d'atterrir a Bangkok ou a Hanoï
pour visiter le Laos et Le Cambodge en transport terrestre.
retour Idem (en boucle)....est ce clair?
Le soleil n'est jamais aussi beau que le jour ou l'on se met en route.......GIONO
Merci Renaud pour ton effort, quand on veut on peut...
Sauf que c'est en général au demandeur de faire l'effort de rédiger une question compréhensible. 🤪
...Quand je parle de ligne intérieure, c'est intérieur a l'Asie du sud est, sinon c'est une ligne internationale
Désolé, il fallait comprendre. Selon moi, "internationale" signifie entre nations et donc une ligne est internationale dès qu'elle permet de se rendre dans un autre pays que celui du départ et l'Asie du Sud-Est n'est pas un pays en soi. Mais peut-être as-tu raison et qu'effectivement ils considèrent en ASE que des vols entre Thaïlande, Vietnam et Laos sont domestiques.😮
...Je pars en janvier, février, mars 2016...je pars en avion de Paris et je voudrais juste savoir s'il est plus pratique d'atterrir a Bangkok ou a Hanoï pour visiter le Laos et Le Cambodge en transport terrestre. retour Idem...(en boucle)
Et bien voilà...Quand on veut, on peut...😉
Concrètement, maintenant : Dans tous les cas, une question que tu dois te poser est "puisque de toute façon je dois faire un trajet terrestre au moins dans un de ces 2 pays (Vietnam ou Thaïlande), pour rejoindre le Laos et repartir du Cambodge, lequel m'attire le plus ?'. Cela t'aidera à décider si tu fais un AR vers la même ville et si oui, laquelle.
En effet, côté pratique, c'est un peu la distance entre les aéroports et les lieux de départ et d'arrivée de ton "périple" qui te décidera. Si tu atterris à Bangkok, rejoindre le nord Laos te fera faire un long trajet terrestre (train et/ou bus) en Thaïlande, ou un trajet réduit en rejoignant Vientiane, mais du coup en faisant de Vientiane vers le nord, un trajet que tu devras, peu ou prou, refaire pour aller du Nord au Sud.
Si ton voyage se termine au Cambodge, retourner à Hanoï te fera un long trajet
Côté vols AR, les prix et les fréquences se valent. Je pense que tu devrais trouver un peu moins cher, à cette époque pour Bangkok que pour Hanoï, mais les différences ne sont pas énormes.
Mais puisque tu veux faire une boucle, peut-être peux-tu regarder s'il existe des vols arrivant à Hanoï (plus près du nord Laos) et repartant de Bangkok (plus près du sud Cambodge). Moi, c'est ce que je ferais à ta place.🙂
Bonne chance et bon voyage
Sauf que c'est en général au demandeur de faire l'effort de rédiger une question compréhensible. 🤪
...Quand je parle de ligne intérieure, c'est intérieur a l'Asie du sud est, sinon c'est une ligne internationale
Désolé, il fallait comprendre. Selon moi, "internationale" signifie entre nations et donc une ligne est internationale dès qu'elle permet de se rendre dans un autre pays que celui du départ et l'Asie du Sud-Est n'est pas un pays en soi. Mais peut-être as-tu raison et qu'effectivement ils considèrent en ASE que des vols entre Thaïlande, Vietnam et Laos sont domestiques.😮
...Je pars en janvier, février, mars 2016...je pars en avion de Paris et je voudrais juste savoir s'il est plus pratique d'atterrir a Bangkok ou a Hanoï pour visiter le Laos et Le Cambodge en transport terrestre. retour Idem...(en boucle)
Et bien voilà...Quand on veut, on peut...😉
Concrètement, maintenant : Dans tous les cas, une question que tu dois te poser est "puisque de toute façon je dois faire un trajet terrestre au moins dans un de ces 2 pays (Vietnam ou Thaïlande), pour rejoindre le Laos et repartir du Cambodge, lequel m'attire le plus ?'. Cela t'aidera à décider si tu fais un AR vers la même ville et si oui, laquelle.
En effet, côté pratique, c'est un peu la distance entre les aéroports et les lieux de départ et d'arrivée de ton "périple" qui te décidera. Si tu atterris à Bangkok, rejoindre le nord Laos te fera faire un long trajet terrestre (train et/ou bus) en Thaïlande, ou un trajet réduit en rejoignant Vientiane, mais du coup en faisant de Vientiane vers le nord, un trajet que tu devras, peu ou prou, refaire pour aller du Nord au Sud.
Si ton voyage se termine au Cambodge, retourner à Hanoï te fera un long trajet
Côté vols AR, les prix et les fréquences se valent. Je pense que tu devrais trouver un peu moins cher, à cette époque pour Bangkok que pour Hanoï, mais les différences ne sont pas énormes.
Mais puisque tu veux faire une boucle, peut-être peux-tu regarder s'il existe des vols arrivant à Hanoï (plus près du nord Laos) et repartant de Bangkok (plus près du sud Cambodge). Moi, c'est ce que je ferais à ta place.🙂
Bonne chance et bon voyage
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
Merci Thierry je vais réfléchir a tous ça...
Le soleil n'est jamais aussi beau que le jour ou l'on se met en route.......GIONO
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Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !