Je suis en terminale, de nationalité française et j'aurais aimée partit l'année prochaine aux Etats-Unis chez mon oncle (par alliance) américain et ma tante naturalisée. Je suis extrêmement embêtée avec l'histoire de visa car je ne souhaite pas étudier, ni faire de stage, ce serait une année sabbatique. J'ai l'impression de ne rentrer dans aucune des catégories de visa publiée sur le site de l'Ambassade et je commence sérieusement à m'inquiéter... Si quelque qu'un pouvait me donner quelques conseils ce serait super! Merci d'avance,
Partir un an aux USA sans étudier: quel visa?
by Mchrlt
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je suis en terminale, de nationalité française et j'aurais aimée partit l'année prochaine aux Etats-Unis chez mon oncle (par alliance) américain et ma tante naturalisée. Je suis extrêmement embêtée avec l'histoire de visa car je ne souhaite pas étudier, ni faire de stage, ce serait une année sabbatique. J'ai l'impression de ne rentrer dans aucune des catégories de visa publiée sur le site de l'Ambassade et je commence sérieusement à m'inquiéter... Si quelque qu'un pouvait me donner quelques conseils ce serait super! Merci d'avance,
Je suis en terminale, de nationalité française et j'aurais aimée partit l'année prochaine aux Etats-Unis chez mon oncle (par alliance) américain et ma tante naturalisée. Je suis extrêmement embêtée avec l'histoire de visa car je ne souhaite pas étudier, ni faire de stage, ce serait une année sabbatique. J'ai l'impression de ne rentrer dans aucune des catégories de visa publiée sur le site de l'Ambassade et je commence sérieusement à m'inquiéter... Si quelque qu'un pouvait me donner quelques conseils ce serait super! Merci d'avance,
Bonjour
Malheureusement le visa touristique d'une année aux Etats-unis n'existe pas. Il vous faudra vous tourner vers le visa B2 de 6 mois. Faire une année d'étude là bas peut être une autre solution, à voir.
Malheureusement le visa touristique d'une année aux Etats-unis n'existe pas. Il vous faudra vous tourner vers le visa B2 de 6 mois. Faire une année d'étude là bas peut être une autre solution, à voir.
Ça va être compliqué car en venant en touriste, les solutions sont très limitées.
La premiere c'est le ESTA mais ce n'est valable que 3 mois sans aucune possibilité de prolongation.
La seconde serait d'arriver à obtenir un visa B1/B2 qui est valable 6 mois et qui est assez facilement renouvelable une fois, sans avoir a rentrer en France. Dans ce cas on aurait les 12 mois.
Sinon sans travailler (stage ou au pair qui nécessite un visa J) ou sans étudier (visa F), c'est impossible.
Sinon sans travailler (stage ou au pair qui nécessite un visa J) ou sans étudier (visa F), c'est impossible.
D'accord, je ne devrais pas revenir en France entre les 2 périodes de 6 mois donc ? Le problème c'est qu'il n'est pas non plus sûr à 100 % que mon renouvellement de visa sois accepter, je suppose que le service d'immigration a besoin de bonnes raisons...
La difficulté c'est surtout d'obtenir le B1/B2.
Apres pour obtenir une prolongation de 6 mois une fois sur place, en passant par un avocat d'immigration ça devrait se faire sans trop de difficulté.
Pourquoi est-ce que ce serait dur d'obtenir le B2 ?
Parce qu'il faut un dossier béton. Il ne faut pas que l'agent d'immigration soupçonne une installation illégale sur le territoire, ou que tu veuilles travailler sur place pour subvenir à tes besoins .
Il va falloir réunir des preuves de tes attaches en France et que tu aies assez d'argent pour vivre sans travailler. En fait que ton projet soit cohérent.
Bonjour.
Pourquoi vs serait-il difficile d'avoir le B2 ????
D'abord le Visa B1/B2 n'est pas un droit. Ce n'est pas comme dans certains pays une simple formalité destinée plus ou moins à vs prendre de l'argent.
Il y a un examen du dossier par un officier de l'immigration, et votre situation sera delicate à lui expliquer
Sur le fond, n'oubliez pas que le visa B2 est destiné à faire du Tourisme. Or, vs dites vs même que vs voulez resider chez votre oncle, en année sabbatique.
Ensuite, il faudra lui demontrer que vs avez des attaches suffisantes avec la FRANCE pour y revenir ensuite. Or vs n'avez ni travail, ni poursuite d'etudes...
Enfin, il faudra donner suffisament de garanties financieres pour montrer que vs n'avez pas l'intention de travailler aux USA.
Il faudra donc betonner votre projet, expliquer pourquoi un simple ESTA de 90 jours ne suffira pas. Bien entendu, il ne faudra jamais dire que vs voulez rester un an.
Dernier point : En cas de refus du visa, vs ne pourrez plus beneficier de l'ESTA pour vs rendre aux USA.
Pourquoi vs serait-il difficile d'avoir le B2 ????
D'abord le Visa B1/B2 n'est pas un droit. Ce n'est pas comme dans certains pays une simple formalité destinée plus ou moins à vs prendre de l'argent.
Il y a un examen du dossier par un officier de l'immigration, et votre situation sera delicate à lui expliquer
Sur le fond, n'oubliez pas que le visa B2 est destiné à faire du Tourisme. Or, vs dites vs même que vs voulez resider chez votre oncle, en année sabbatique.
Ensuite, il faudra lui demontrer que vs avez des attaches suffisantes avec la FRANCE pour y revenir ensuite. Or vs n'avez ni travail, ni poursuite d'etudes...
Enfin, il faudra donner suffisament de garanties financieres pour montrer que vs n'avez pas l'intention de travailler aux USA.
Il faudra donc betonner votre projet, expliquer pourquoi un simple ESTA de 90 jours ne suffira pas. Bien entendu, il ne faudra jamais dire que vs voulez rester un an.
Dernier point : En cas de refus du visa, vs ne pourrez plus beneficier de l'ESTA pour vs rendre aux USA.
Bonjour,
Comme dit précédemment, avec l'ESTA ou le Visa B2, tu n'as pas le droit de travailler (légalement bien sur, au noir, tant que tu ne te fais pas dénoncer....). Tu ne peux même pas garder des enfants (ni ceux de ta tante, si elle en a, ni ceux des amis/voisins) c'est considéré comme un travail et il faut le visa J1 (au pair).
Donc en tenir compte au moment de ton entretien à l'Ambassade.
Comme dit précédemment, avec l'ESTA ou le Visa B2, tu n'as pas le droit de travailler (légalement bien sur, au noir, tant que tu ne te fais pas dénoncer....). Tu ne peux même pas garder des enfants (ni ceux de ta tante, si elle en a, ni ceux des amis/voisins) c'est considéré comme un travail et il faut le visa J1 (au pair).
Donc en tenir compte au moment de ton entretien à l'Ambassade.
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Les autres t'ont très bien expliqué la difficulté d'obtention du visa B1-B2.
En gros c'est pas gagné ton histoire mais ça reste possible à la condition de bien presenter ta demande de B1-B2.
Contrairement à ce que beaucoup pense, l'obtention du visa ne depend pas du bon vouloir de l'officier d'immigration de manière aléatoire ou s'il est sympa ou pas mais des pieces que tu vas fournir et de comment tu vas lui presenter. La délivrance d'un visa est une démarche très professionnelle à ne surtout pas prendre comme étant une "simple formalité administrative". Un visa correspond à des règles qui lui sont spécifiques et qui vont s'appliquer à la lettre.
Contrairement à ce que beaucoup pense, l'obtention du visa ne depend pas du bon vouloir de l'officier d'immigration de manière aléatoire ou s'il est sympa ou pas mais des pieces que tu vas fournir et de comment tu vas lui presenter. La délivrance d'un visa est une démarche très professionnelle à ne surtout pas prendre comme étant une "simple formalité administrative". Un visa correspond à des règles qui lui sont spécifiques et qui vont s'appliquer à la lettre.
Merci pour ces explications, en effet cela devient plus clair. Admettons que je renonce à demander une extension du visa B2, la présentation de mon dossier pour un visa B2 pour 6 mois aux usa reste t-il aussi délicat ? J'ai bien sûr des projets d'études en revenant en France, intégrer un lycée hôtelier ou la fac, j'ai aussi ma famille, donc "des attaches affectives". Pour ce qui est de l'aspect financier, je crois savoir que c'est à ma tante et mon oncle de fournir un justificatif.
Une autre question; "interdiction de travailler" est-ce que cela implique aussi toute activité non rémunérée ? Le bénévolat est-il légal ?
Peu importe ce que tu veux, tous les B1-B2 sont valables pour une durée de 10 ans accordant a son détenteur l'entrée aux USA pour une durée maximum de 6 mois.
Apres si tu veux que cette durée te soit prolongée une fois sur place, ce sera a voir avec l'immigration US de là ou tu seras et le mieux sera de se faire assister d'un avocat d'immigration Américain.
Mais a mon avis ne pas en parler lors de ton interview car le but du B1-B2 c'est principalement pour faire du tourisme, donc être itinerant pendant la durée de ton séjour.
Maintenant si tu es au pair chez quelqu'un c'est autre chose et c'est plus un B1-B2 qu'il faut, c'est un visa J.
Mais a mon avis ne pas en parler lors de ton interview car le but du B1-B2 c'est principalement pour faire du tourisme, donc être itinerant pendant la durée de ton séjour.
Maintenant si tu es au pair chez quelqu'un c'est autre chose et c'est plus un B1-B2 qu'il faut, c'est un visa J.
Bonsoir Marie
Attention en ce qui concerne le travail en tant qu'au pair...., c'est très réglementé et il n'est pas autorisé d'être employé (e) comme au pair auprès des membres de sa famille. C'est une des quelques limitations de ce visa.... En plus, il faut impérativement passer par une agence agrée. http://j1visa.state.gov/programs/au-pair
Bonnes recherches
Attention en ce qui concerne le travail en tant qu'au pair...., c'est très réglementé et il n'est pas autorisé d'être employé (e) comme au pair auprès des membres de sa famille. C'est une des quelques limitations de ce visa.... En plus, il faut impérativement passer par une agence agrée. http://j1visa.state.gov/programs/au-pair
Bonnes recherches
"Le plus beau voyage c'est celui que l'on a pas encore fait" (Loick Peyron)
Un jour j'irais en Théorie ........parce qu'en Théorie tout va bien
D'accord, merci pour toutes ces précisions en tout cas. J'avoue avoir l'impression d'être face à un problème sans solution... Il faut que je me construise un très bon dossier, je ne peux pas avoir de job (bien que je n'en ai pas nécessairement besoin), il m'est impossible de m'inscrire dans une université, je ne peux pas non plus partir au pair et ne peux rester sur le sol américain plus de 6 mois...
je ne peux rester sur le sol américain plus de 6 mois...
6 mois, c'est uniquement si tu obtiens ton visa.
Sans visa, avec l'ESTA, c'est 90 jours maximum. Et si ton visa est refusé, tu ne pourras plus bénéficier de l'ESTA.....
je ne peux pas non plus partir au pair
Si tu as de l'expérience avec les enfants, tu peux t'inscrire au programme au pair. Mais il faudra attendre d'avoir 18 ans, le BAC ou une équivalence et le permis. Tu pars pour 1 an, et tu peux prolonger de 6 mois ou 1 an. Au total tu peux partir 2 ans.
6 mois, c'est uniquement si tu obtiens ton visa.
Sans visa, avec l'ESTA, c'est 90 jours maximum. Et si ton visa est refusé, tu ne pourras plus bénéficier de l'ESTA.....
je ne peux pas non plus partir au pair
Si tu as de l'expérience avec les enfants, tu peux t'inscrire au programme au pair. Mais il faudra attendre d'avoir 18 ans, le BAC ou une équivalence et le permis. Tu pars pour 1 an, et tu peux prolonger de 6 mois ou 1 an. Au total tu peux partir 2 ans.
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Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.