Le pays le plus cher du monde?
by Marlene75013
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Quel est selon vous le pays du monde où le cout de la vie est le plus élevé? (logement, nourriture, transports, assurances, loisirs etc...)
J'ai entendu dire que c'était la Norvège. Est-ce vrai?
Savez vous s'il existe un classement ?
Merci de votre contribution !
Big Mac Index: http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9448015
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG, GGLG:2006-07, GGLG:en&q=big+mac+index+2007
Il semble que la Norvege soit #2. Et que le pays le plus cher soit l'Islande.
Il semble que la Norvege soit #2. Et que le pays le plus cher soit l'Islande.
Tu parles au niveau vie sur place ou au niveau voyage ?
Pour ce qui est de la vie sur place, il y a un classement des villes (mais pas des pays) qui est fait chaque année (je ne sais plus par qui). Pour 2007 :Classement des villes les plus chères du monde en 2007 (coût du logement, transports, nourriture, biens de consommation, loisirs...) : 1) Moscou; 2) Londres; 3) Séoul; 4) Tokyo; 5) Hong-Kong; 6) Copenhague; 7) Genève; 8) Osaka; 9) Zurich; 10) Oslo. Quant à Paris elle est 13eme devant New York qui est 15ème.
Quant à l'indice Big Mac, mouais ça me semble plus qu'aléatoire (voire même n'importe quoi !) même si les économistes semblent eux y trouver un intérêt (cf. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indice_Big_Mac).
Par rapport à celui-ci (www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8649005) tu as en effet par exemple la Turquie qui est presque 50% plus chère que le Japon, la Colombie au même prix que le Canada ou encore le Pérou plus cher que l'Australie. Cherchez les erreurs...
Au niveau voyage, là aussi je dirais qu'il faut relativiser. Des pays comme la Norvège ou l'Islande sont en effet cher dans leur quotidien ou leurs services, mais tu as quand même des alternatives au niveau voyage. Genre pour la Norvège camping, faire sa cuisine, etc, qui au final rendent le périple pas trop trop cher.
Par contre il y a aussi des pays où il n'y a pas vraiment de choix dans la façon de voyager comme par ex la Polynésie (transports inter-îles aux coûts prohibitifs notamment) ou le Bhoutan (voyage réglementé par le gouvernement qui oblige le visiteur à dépenser 200 Us/jour). A mon avis ce sont donc ces deux pays qui sont les plus chers.
Pour ce qui est de la vie sur place, il y a un classement des villes (mais pas des pays) qui est fait chaque année (je ne sais plus par qui). Pour 2007 :Classement des villes les plus chères du monde en 2007 (coût du logement, transports, nourriture, biens de consommation, loisirs...) : 1) Moscou; 2) Londres; 3) Séoul; 4) Tokyo; 5) Hong-Kong; 6) Copenhague; 7) Genève; 8) Osaka; 9) Zurich; 10) Oslo. Quant à Paris elle est 13eme devant New York qui est 15ème.
Quant à l'indice Big Mac, mouais ça me semble plus qu'aléatoire (voire même n'importe quoi !) même si les économistes semblent eux y trouver un intérêt (cf. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indice_Big_Mac).
Par rapport à celui-ci (www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8649005) tu as en effet par exemple la Turquie qui est presque 50% plus chère que le Japon, la Colombie au même prix que le Canada ou encore le Pérou plus cher que l'Australie. Cherchez les erreurs...
Au niveau voyage, là aussi je dirais qu'il faut relativiser. Des pays comme la Norvège ou l'Islande sont en effet cher dans leur quotidien ou leurs services, mais tu as quand même des alternatives au niveau voyage. Genre pour la Norvège camping, faire sa cuisine, etc, qui au final rendent le périple pas trop trop cher.
Par contre il y a aussi des pays où il n'y a pas vraiment de choix dans la façon de voyager comme par ex la Polynésie (transports inter-îles aux coûts prohibitifs notamment) ou le Bhoutan (voyage réglementé par le gouvernement qui oblige le visiteur à dépenser 200 Us/jour). A mon avis ce sont donc ces deux pays qui sont les plus chers.
L’estimation peut être faussée également lorsque la monnaie locale s’échange au marché noir. Au Venezuela, (j’en reviens), c’est proprement hallucinant. Au marché noir, le dollar vaut jusqu’à 6000 bolivars, alors qu’au taux officiel, dans les banques, il s’échange à 2150 bolivars.
Résultat : officiellement, le Venezuela est un pays relativement cher. A titre d’exemple, les pommes vendues à l’unité peuvent valoir jusqu’à un euro pièce ! Avec le marché noir, dans certains hôtels ou chez des cambistes à la dégaine de cow-boy, avec leur sacochette bourrée de billets de banque, la destination devient plutôt bon marché. Les prix sont divisés par presque 3.
Khaldoun
Résultat : officiellement, le Venezuela est un pays relativement cher. A titre d’exemple, les pommes vendues à l’unité peuvent valoir jusqu’à un euro pièce ! Avec le marché noir, dans certains hôtels ou chez des cambistes à la dégaine de cow-boy, avec leur sacochette bourrée de billets de banque, la destination devient plutôt bon marché. Les prix sont divisés par presque 3.
Khaldoun
Pour ce qui est de la vie sur place, il y a un classement des villes (mais pas des pays) qui est fait chaque année (je ne sais plus par qui). Pour 2007 :Classement des villes les plus chères du monde en 2007 (coût du logement, transports, nourriture, biens de consommation, loisirs...) :
1) Moscou; 2) Londres; 3) Séoul; 4) Tokyo; 5) Hong-Kong; 6) Copenhague; 7) Genève; 8) Osaka; 9) Zurich; 10) Oslo. Quant à Paris elle est 13eme devant New York qui est 15ème.-- D'où vient le classeement ? C'est super intéressant mais on ne sait pas si c'est fiable ! Je sui preneuse de + d'infos sur ce classement car personne ne me croit quand je dis que Paris est plus cher que le reste du Monde ! Donc j'ai besoin de preuves !! 😉
Géraldine
Voilà la liste complète des 50 premières villes avec l'organisme qui réalise l'enquête :
http://www.radioactif.com/nouvelles/nouvelle-classement_50_villes_plus-20613-12.html
Quant à Paris ce n'est pas la ville la plus chère du monde, et d'ailleurs elle ne l'a jamais été je crois depuis que ce classemente existe.
Quant à Paris ce n'est pas la ville la plus chère du monde, et d'ailleurs elle ne l'a jamais été je crois depuis que ce classemente existe.
Je ne peux que tousser en voyant Pékin surgir vers le haut du classement, plusieurs rangs avant Stockholm!
Soyons sérieux deux secondes. Quiconque était déjà allé à Pékin et à Stockholm se rendra compte de l'inanité de la chose.
Il y a à mon avis une explication très simple: l'indice utilisé n'a absolument rien à voir avec le coût de la vie pour le quidam moyen. Il s'agit je pense de comparer le prix des prestations à niveau de qualité égal.
Une maison individuelle dans un coin sympa à Stockholm, ça ne doit pas être donné, mais ce n'est sans doute pas inaccessible. La même chose à Pékin, c'est très rare, donc c'est très cher! Mais qui à Pékin irait se loger dans une telle demeure? Pour des tarifs raisonnables, on peut être confortablement logé à Pékin. Mais certes, le niveau de finition de l'immeuble sera loin derrière la qualité suédoise, la propreté des parties communes laissera plus à désirer, etc.
Un resto sympa à Stockholm, c'est vraiment pas donné du tout. Mais vraiment pas du tout! A Pékin, on peut faire des festins pour le prix d'une tranche de saumon fumé à Stockholm (j'exagère à peine). En revanche, si on veut manger occidental à Pékin, dans un restaurant classe (pour la ville, mais qui serait de standing moyen en Suède), et bien là les prix montent évidemment en flèche.
Les critères utilisés pour ce classement me semblent donc éminemment douteux.
Soyons sérieux deux secondes. Quiconque était déjà allé à Pékin et à Stockholm se rendra compte de l'inanité de la chose.
Il y a à mon avis une explication très simple: l'indice utilisé n'a absolument rien à voir avec le coût de la vie pour le quidam moyen. Il s'agit je pense de comparer le prix des prestations à niveau de qualité égal.
Une maison individuelle dans un coin sympa à Stockholm, ça ne doit pas être donné, mais ce n'est sans doute pas inaccessible. La même chose à Pékin, c'est très rare, donc c'est très cher! Mais qui à Pékin irait se loger dans une telle demeure? Pour des tarifs raisonnables, on peut être confortablement logé à Pékin. Mais certes, le niveau de finition de l'immeuble sera loin derrière la qualité suédoise, la propreté des parties communes laissera plus à désirer, etc.
Un resto sympa à Stockholm, c'est vraiment pas donné du tout. Mais vraiment pas du tout! A Pékin, on peut faire des festins pour le prix d'une tranche de saumon fumé à Stockholm (j'exagère à peine). En revanche, si on veut manger occidental à Pékin, dans un restaurant classe (pour la ville, mais qui serait de standing moyen en Suède), et bien là les prix montent évidemment en flèche.
Les critères utilisés pour ce classement me semblent donc éminemment douteux.
Merci yanqquizi pour ta vision eclairee. Ce classement est fait pour des gens qui recherchent leur mode de vie a l'etranger.
Sinon personelement quand je rentre en France je trouve la vie hors de prix, immobilier, nourriture. Et pas uniquement dans la capitale.
Le plus grand voyageur est celui qui a su faire une fois le tour de lui-même
Quant à l'indice Big Mac, mouais ça me semble plus qu'aléatoire (voire même n'importe quoi !) même si les économistes semblent eux y trouver un intérêt (cf. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indice_Big_Mac).
De nombreuses personnes utilisent l'indice n'importe quoi pour predir la valeur des monnaies a long terme.
Il a ses defauts, au premier rang, le fait qu'il pretends s'appuier sur la "law of one price", qui est innaplicable, parce qu'une fois que ton Big Mac aura fait le tour du monde, il sera legerement avarie.
Ceci etant dit, le Big mac reste un bon proxy. Un big mac contient: Du marketing: Salaires de cols blancs, technologie ... De la logistique (pour le ramener sur le point de vente): camion, petrole ... Le point de vente: Loyer, chauffage ... Les salaires des cols bleux: le serveur/ serveuse Et bien entendu des produits agricoles.
Ca semble donc un bon proxy pour l'economie d'un pays.
Si tu veux voire un indice n'importe quoi, regarde ca: http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/how-your-ipod-can-show-value-of-a-dollar/2007/01/18/1169095908963.html ; les gars qui l'ont ecrit avaient tellement honte qu'ils n'ont pas indique l'implied exchange rate (d'apres cet indice, le real bresilien est overvalue de plus de 100% par rapport au dollar, et par consequent le cout de la vie est 2x plus cher au Bresil qu'aux US - alors que d'apres le Big Mac Index, le cout de la vie n'est que 6% plus eleve aux US par rapport au Bresil). Je pense qu'un Big Mac est un meilleur proxy qu'un Ipod (bien que d'un point de vue theorique, ce dernier repond plus facilement a la "law of one price")
De nombreuses personnes utilisent l'indice n'importe quoi pour predir la valeur des monnaies a long terme.
Il a ses defauts, au premier rang, le fait qu'il pretends s'appuier sur la "law of one price", qui est innaplicable, parce qu'une fois que ton Big Mac aura fait le tour du monde, il sera legerement avarie.
Ceci etant dit, le Big mac reste un bon proxy. Un big mac contient: Du marketing: Salaires de cols blancs, technologie ... De la logistique (pour le ramener sur le point de vente): camion, petrole ... Le point de vente: Loyer, chauffage ... Les salaires des cols bleux: le serveur/ serveuse Et bien entendu des produits agricoles.
Ca semble donc un bon proxy pour l'economie d'un pays.
Si tu veux voire un indice n'importe quoi, regarde ca: http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/how-your-ipod-can-show-value-of-a-dollar/2007/01/18/1169095908963.html ; les gars qui l'ont ecrit avaient tellement honte qu'ils n'ont pas indique l'implied exchange rate (d'apres cet indice, le real bresilien est overvalue de plus de 100% par rapport au dollar, et par consequent le cout de la vie est 2x plus cher au Bresil qu'aux US - alors que d'apres le Big Mac Index, le cout de la vie n'est que 6% plus eleve aux US par rapport au Bresil). Je pense qu'un Big Mac est un meilleur proxy qu'un Ipod (bien que d'un point de vue theorique, ce dernier repond plus facilement a la "law of one price")
D'un point de vue general, dans le voyage, le plus cher, c'est le transport.
Par consequent, il est bien meilleur marche d'aller dans un coin (qui a circule par des moyen de transports lents) et d'y rester 6 mois, plutot que de prendre l'avion toutes les deux semaines.
Par consequent, il est bien meilleur marche d'aller dans un coin (qui a circule par des moyen de transports lents) et d'y rester 6 mois, plutot que de prendre l'avion toutes les deux semaines.
Classement troublant effectivement.
Pékin et Istanbul sont plus chères que Munich! Pour le voyage, ma réponse est nette : c’est faux. Hôtels, repas, taxis, visites, cinémas, excursions… la comparaison est aisée et la conclusion sans appel. J’ai visité les unes et les autres il n’y a pas bien longtemps. Classement très approximatif pour le voyageur en conséquence. L’immobilier (sédentaire, sans l’hôtellerie) semble être son unique critère d’appréciation, et même avec ça…
Ollwagner, tu écris « D'un point de vue général, dans le voyage, le plus cher, c'est le transport ».
Cela dépend des exigences de chacun en matière d’hôtellerie.
Khaldoun
Pékin et Istanbul sont plus chères que Munich! Pour le voyage, ma réponse est nette : c’est faux. Hôtels, repas, taxis, visites, cinémas, excursions… la comparaison est aisée et la conclusion sans appel. J’ai visité les unes et les autres il n’y a pas bien longtemps. Classement très approximatif pour le voyageur en conséquence. L’immobilier (sédentaire, sans l’hôtellerie) semble être son unique critère d’appréciation, et même avec ça…
Ollwagner, tu écris « D'un point de vue général, dans le voyage, le plus cher, c'est le transport ».
Cela dépend des exigences de chacun en matière d’hôtellerie.
Khaldoun
> Ceci etant dit, le Big mac reste un bon proxy. Un big mac contient: Du marketing: Salaires de cols blancs, technologie ... De la logistique (pour le ramener sur le point de vente): camion, petrole ... Le point de vente: Loyer, chauffage ... Les salaires des cols bleux: le serveur/ serveuse Et bien entendu des produits agricoles.
Ca semble donc un bon proxy pour l'economie d'un pays.
Ouais bof pas vraiment, surtout qu'en plus la "perception commerciale" du Big Mac en question varie très largement d'un pays à l'autre. Dans certains pays, notamment en voie de développement, le Big Mac and co c'est le "luxe" alors qu'ailleurs (dont ici en France) c'est le bas de gamme. Donc, dans un cas comme l'autre, il doit bien y avoir une répercution sur les éléments que tu cites, ce qui fausse d'autant les résultats.
Et puis quand même, Mac Do et ses saloperies comme référence mondiale, fallait quand même oser ... !
Ouais bof pas vraiment, surtout qu'en plus la "perception commerciale" du Big Mac en question varie très largement d'un pays à l'autre. Dans certains pays, notamment en voie de développement, le Big Mac and co c'est le "luxe" alors qu'ailleurs (dont ici en France) c'est le bas de gamme. Donc, dans un cas comme l'autre, il doit bien y avoir une répercution sur les éléments que tu cites, ce qui fausse d'autant les résultats.
Et puis quand même, Mac Do et ses saloperies comme référence mondiale, fallait quand même oser ... !
> Ceci etant dit, le Big mac reste un bon proxy. Un big mac contient: Du marketing: Salaires de cols blancs, technologie ... De la logistique (pour le ramener sur le point de vente): camion, petrole ... Le point de vente: Loyer, chauffage ... Les salaires des cols bleux: le serveur/ serveuse Et bien entendu des produits agricoles.
Ca semble donc un bon proxy pour l'economie d'un pays.
Ouais bof pas vraiment, surtout qu'en plus la "perception commerciale" du Big Mac en question varie très largement d'un pays à l'autre. Dans certains pays, notamment en voie de développement, le Big Mac and co c'est le "luxe" alors qu'ailleurs (dont ici en France) c'est le bas de gamme. Donc, dans un cas comme l'autre, il doit bien y avoir une répercution sur les éléments que tu cites, ce qui fausse d'autant les résultats.
Et puis quand même, Mac Do et ses saloperies comme référence mondiale, fallait quand même oser ... !
Ca fait du bien de voir autant d'idees constructives ...
N'hesites pas a creer un indice qui traquerais de facon plus fiable la valeur intrinseque des monnaies. Tu deviendras riche et celebre.
Ouais bof pas vraiment, surtout qu'en plus la "perception commerciale" du Big Mac en question varie très largement d'un pays à l'autre. Dans certains pays, notamment en voie de développement, le Big Mac and co c'est le "luxe" alors qu'ailleurs (dont ici en France) c'est le bas de gamme. Donc, dans un cas comme l'autre, il doit bien y avoir une répercution sur les éléments que tu cites, ce qui fausse d'autant les résultats.
Et puis quand même, Mac Do et ses saloperies comme référence mondiale, fallait quand même oser ... !
Ca fait du bien de voir autant d'idees constructives ...
N'hesites pas a creer un indice qui traquerais de facon plus fiable la valeur intrinseque des monnaies. Tu deviendras riche et celebre.
Par contre il y a aussi des pays où il n'y a pas vraiment de choix dans la façon de voyager comme par ex la Polynésie (transports inter-îles aux coûts prohibitifs notamment) ou le Bhoutan (voyage réglementé par le gouvernement qui oblige le visiteur à dépenser 200 Us/jour).
A mon avis ce sont donc ces deux pays qui sont les plus chers.
Tu peux prendre le bateau entre pas mal d`iles quand meme, dont les plus touristiques... Faut juste avoir le temps ! Mais c`est vrai que de maniere generale la polynesie c`est cher...
Tu peux prendre le bateau entre pas mal d`iles quand meme, dont les plus touristiques... Faut juste avoir le temps ! Mais c`est vrai que de maniere generale la polynesie c`est cher...
La Norvège ! j'y ai passé 6 mois et effectivement la vie y est très très chère. Et bcp d'expat' m'ont dit que c'était le pays le plus cher du monde.
chambre en cité U à Oslo (douche et cuisine commune à tout l'étage soit 16 chambres) : 300€ minimum une bière : 8€ carte mensuelle de transport à Oslo: 85€ le kilo de tomates: près de 5€
Cependant comme l'ont dit d'autres personnes l'Islande aussi est très chère et étant bcp plus isolée que la Norvège, elle doit être number one en fait...
Si tu veux des infos sur la Norvège hésite pas 🙂
Quel est selon vous le pays du monde où le cout de la vie est le plus élevé? (logement, nourriture, transports, assurances, loisirs etc...) J'ai entendu dire que c'était la Norvège. Est-ce vrai? Savez vous s'il existe un classement ? Merci de votre contribution !
Cependant comme l'ont dit d'autres personnes l'Islande aussi est très chère et étant bcp plus isolée que la Norvège, elle doit être number one en fait...
Si tu veux des infos sur la Norvège hésite pas 🙂
Quel est selon vous le pays du monde où le cout de la vie est le plus élevé? (logement, nourriture, transports, assurances, loisirs etc...) J'ai entendu dire que c'était la Norvège. Est-ce vrai? Savez vous s'il existe un classement ? Merci de votre contribution !
En Norvège, il n'y a pas de mauvais temps, il n'y a que des mauvais vêtements. Proverbe norvégien.
Salut,
Quand vous dites le pays le plus chér de l´europe, ça-va, mais le pays le plus cher du monde pour moi c´est l´angola parce il y a une province qu´on appel LUNDA NORTE, lá une bouteuil de Coca Cola de 30ml est 5 $ americain, une bouteuil d´eau mineral de 1L est 9 $. Pensez au moin.
Quand vous dites le pays le plus chér de l´europe, ça-va, mais le pays le plus cher du monde pour moi c´est l´angola parce il y a une province qu´on appel LUNDA NORTE, lá une bouteuil de Coca Cola de 30ml est 5 $ americain, une bouteuil d´eau mineral de 1L est 9 $. Pensez au moin.
faustino katambo
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Hi there,
Regarding the amount of tobacco you can buy during a trip in the European Union and bring back to France, we can't really talk about a "duty-free allowance," because the rules around how much tobacco you can bring back to France aren't straightforward at all under French law.
But it's very well explained and legally detailed here: https://douanestabacfranchise.wordpress.com/
Best regards,
Regarding the amount of tobacco you can buy during a trip in the European Union and bring back to France, we can't really talk about a "duty-free allowance," because the rules around how much tobacco you can bring back to France aren't straightforward at all under French law.
But it's very well explained and legally detailed here: https://douanestabacfranchise.wordpress.com/
Best regards,
Hi, has anyone booked hotels through the Vio platform?
Is it reliable?
Thanks
BOLIVIA: THE COUNTRY ON THE BRINK (What's Really Happening)

A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity. Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours: For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route. I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum! Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum

A dramatic saga is unfolding before our eyes in the Andes. Between suffocating blockades, clashes, an international airlift, and historic political decisions, Bolivia has just experienced 48 hours of rare intensity. Here’s the full breakdown (economic, social, and political) of the last 48 hours: For travelers and tourists: the article also includes an important note about the upcoming publication (starting tomorrow) of the precise status of roadblocks, route by route. I’ll post the full update here on Voyage Forum! Don’t miss this in-depth analysis. History is being written before our eyes! https://www.petitherge.com/bolivie-paralysie-et-ultimatum
Hi there! 🙂
I just discovered a great show on Arte. It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂 Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy. They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report. It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch! It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
See you soon,
Mumu
I just discovered a great show on Arte. It's called "7 en route": seven young European journalists travel around Europe in a fully converted bus, making reports on every city they visit. It's amazing! 🙂 Yesterday, for example, they were in Rome, Italy, and the reports included things like the world's smallest restaurant—a super romantic spot for two. There was also a report on the king of paparazzi in Italy. They have to pick topics that let us discover the little quirks of each country. And at the end of each episode, we get to see the finished report. It's such a great show, mixing journalism, travel, and discovery—basically, a must-watch! It airs in the evening starting at 6:50 PM (I think), and it started this past Monday, July 14th.
If you watch it, let me know—we can chat about it!
See you soon,
Mumu
I left my heart’s country eight days ago and returned to my adopted one—or was it the other way around? Scotland-Morvan, Morvan-Scotland, I’m not quite sure anymore.
After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story. Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider. But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube. Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long. Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter. (I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
*Jean d’Ormesson
2)

After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story. Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider. But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
1)
This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube. Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long. Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter. (I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
*Jean d’Ormesson
2)

Without limiting ourselves to the countries mentioned above—Turkey and others could be added to the list.
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
Have a great day!
Yann
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
Have a great day!
Yann
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Thanks in advance for your help. Simon
Thanks in advance for your help. Simon
Hi everyone,
I just found out there’s an update on the international driving permit. What was bound to happen has happened: it now costs (for now!!) 7 50 €. https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A18833
There’s also a link at the bottom of the article for the list of countries where it’s mandatory.
Have a great day! 😊
Christelle
I just found out there’s an update on the international driving permit. What was bound to happen has happened: it now costs (for now!!) 7 50 €. https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A18833
There’s also a link at the bottom of the article for the list of countries where it’s mandatory.
Have a great day! 😊
Christelle
Hello François, and the new team!
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Hi there,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
Hi,
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15. The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG. In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam. We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM. So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG. So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this? Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt. At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €. Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Thanks in advance!
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15. The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG. In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam. We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM. So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG. So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this? Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt. At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €. Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Just got back from Egypt a few days ago and couldn't exchange my 1900 Egyptian pounds at the airport. If anyone's interested, let me know!
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi there, I use video and photo editing software for my "work".
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi,
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
Hello,
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar. It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
https://www.parismatch.com/actu/faits-divers/un-couple-de-navigateurs-franco-australien-retrouve-mort-au-large-de-madagascar-victimes-de-pirates-260904?fbclid=IwY2xjawOaqqdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBLVkRPSGpTVzBUSW9wYUtyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqinPb_OCfcRQQY-Q_fkyDinuvXgm7JwywSMTxJ-TQw84joH-i3uJ08W7frW_aem_ql7JQ5yOLn3XWyrhSIe7kQ&utm_campaign=mrf-facebook-parismatchmag&mrfcid=20251130692956807717c72c586c0c48
Be careful when sailing between Somalia and northern Madagascar. It appears to be Somali pirates who have widened their search in the Mozambique Channel, far from their usual attack zone, since, to my knowledge, there are no Malagasy pirates.
https://www.parismatch.com/actu/faits-divers/un-couple-de-navigateurs-franco-australien-retrouve-mort-au-large-de-madagascar-victimes-de-pirates-260904?fbclid=IwY2xjawOaqqdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBLVkRPSGpTVzBUSW9wYUtyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqinPb_OCfcRQQY-Q_fkyDinuvXgm7JwywSMTxJ-TQw84joH-i3uJ08W7frW_aem_ql7JQ5yOLn3XWyrhSIe7kQ&utm_campaign=mrf-facebook-parismatchmag&mrfcid=20251130692956807717c72c586c0c48