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Sur certaines cartes il apparaît que la piste Taouz-Tagounite passe parfois en Algérie. Qu'en est-il exactement ?
Merci à ceux qui nous donneront des infos.
Gene.
Geneviève et Gérard Cremon
Piste Taouz-Tagounit (Maroc): passe-t-elle parfois en Algérie?
by Genecremon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Non, la piste Taouz /H.Ouzina/H.Remlia/Tagounite est toujours au Maroc, sauf si tu piques trop cap 180, mais là tu ne seras plus sur la bonne piste
Effectivement, le tracé de la frontière sur certaines cartes est faux (cf la Michelin 959)
Passage de l'oued Rhéris à Hassi Remlia un peu laborieux selon les années
Effectivement, le tracé de la frontière sur certaines cartes est faux (cf la Michelin 959)
Passage de l'oued Rhéris à Hassi Remlia un peu laborieux selon les années
Merci pour l'info.
Pourrions-nous en savoir plus sur cette piste, puisque tu sembles bien la connaître ? Repères importants, par exemple... (nous sommes plutôt anti GPS et pro boussole)
Merci.
Gene et Gérard 🙂🙂
Geneviève et Gérard Cremon
Le Sahara se vit pleinement en Algérie pour les passionnés !
Bon voyage !
LILI
Bon voyage !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Taouz : fin du goudron, laisser le village sur la droite pour prendre la piste . Ne pas trop piquer sur les traces à G, mais rester sur la PP
Premier passage un peu mou : Hassi Ouzina . Il y a quelques habitants au petit village, si besoin demander la sortie
Piste un peu caillouteuse mais bien tracée entre H.Ouzina et : Hassi Remlia : c'est à la sortie d'Hassi Remlia (petit village avec un peu de ravitaillement bouffe, et carbu en fût ) que se traverse l'oued Rhéris ensablé sur 3 à 5 km selon les années (l'aborder en courtes 2e/3e, c'est mieux, et ne pas mollir sur l'accélérateur dans le mou), et ne pas prendre les traces qui remontent trop vers le N lorsqu'on est dans l'oued Après Remlia, quelques "auberges" le long de la piste
Suivre la PP, parfois quelques passages mous, mais pas grave pour un 4x4
Arriver aux abord d'un petit village Tafraout, pas trop visible de la piste, tout en longueur sur une piste qui part à D, à ne pas prendre
Quelques km après Tafraout, passage à un petit fort pour contrôle, avec puits pour animaux des nomades du coin au dessous du fort Là, prendre piste vers la G, pas sur la D (demander aux militaires si doute)
Ensuite, un peu de navigation sur une partie un peu "saharienne", avec large piste sur un reg, que je prend au cap, en restant tj sur les traces de G (sinon on prend les traces qui se dirigent vers Houm Jrane et Tissemoumine, pas grave, mais on se dirige alors vers Zagora par le Tizi'n Taffilalet )
Passage par un autre puits avec quelques rares habitations
Croisement d'une belle piste qui arrive de la D à 90 ° et qui continue même cap sur la gauche, vers Taouz (et l'Algérie ). Là, continuer tout droit sur un piste bien tracée mais plus étroite, en coupant la belle piste
Puis piste caillouteuse passant par un petit tizi avec anciennes casemates abandonnée de l'armée, puis descente vers la vallée du Draa, avec la grande palmeraie le long de l'oued Draa visible de loin . La piste monte le Tizi sur son flanc, puis redescend en direction de Tagounite On suit sur une belle piste (belle si elle vient d'être nivelée, sinon au mieux : tôle, au pire :trous et saignées)
On passe ensuite un village étiré le long de la piste, puis à un autre petit village, quitter la piste sur laquelle on roule pour piquer à droite vers la palmeraie du Draa pas loin
Et là, grand jeu de pistes pour la traversée de cette palmeraie sur plusieurs kms, pour enfin arriver à Tagounite
Voilà, sans WP aucun, puisque vous vous dites allergique au gps
Selon votre habitude des pistes, c'est mieux de trouver un "connaisseur" pour ne pas trop tourner en rond . Faites un bon plein avant d'attaquer la piste à Taouz, ça peut être utile si un peu de jardinage se présente.
Compter 2 jours pour faire ce trajet, tranquille, sans se presser et sans se perdre, en gros 300 km entre Merzouge et Tagounite
ça peut se faire dans la journée si on connaît, et si on part tôt le matin de Taouz
PS :Je parcours cette piste tout seul, mais je la connais bien, je la parcours régulièrement depuis 10 ans . Sans préjuger de votre expérience, si on me demande, je ne la recommande pas pour un seul véhicule novice
Bonne ballade, le parcours est beau et varié
Premier passage un peu mou : Hassi Ouzina . Il y a quelques habitants au petit village, si besoin demander la sortie
Piste un peu caillouteuse mais bien tracée entre H.Ouzina et : Hassi Remlia : c'est à la sortie d'Hassi Remlia (petit village avec un peu de ravitaillement bouffe, et carbu en fût ) que se traverse l'oued Rhéris ensablé sur 3 à 5 km selon les années (l'aborder en courtes 2e/3e, c'est mieux, et ne pas mollir sur l'accélérateur dans le mou), et ne pas prendre les traces qui remontent trop vers le N lorsqu'on est dans l'oued Après Remlia, quelques "auberges" le long de la piste
Suivre la PP, parfois quelques passages mous, mais pas grave pour un 4x4
Arriver aux abord d'un petit village Tafraout, pas trop visible de la piste, tout en longueur sur une piste qui part à D, à ne pas prendre
Quelques km après Tafraout, passage à un petit fort pour contrôle, avec puits pour animaux des nomades du coin au dessous du fort Là, prendre piste vers la G, pas sur la D (demander aux militaires si doute)
Ensuite, un peu de navigation sur une partie un peu "saharienne", avec large piste sur un reg, que je prend au cap, en restant tj sur les traces de G (sinon on prend les traces qui se dirigent vers Houm Jrane et Tissemoumine, pas grave, mais on se dirige alors vers Zagora par le Tizi'n Taffilalet )
Passage par un autre puits avec quelques rares habitations
Croisement d'une belle piste qui arrive de la D à 90 ° et qui continue même cap sur la gauche, vers Taouz (et l'Algérie ). Là, continuer tout droit sur un piste bien tracée mais plus étroite, en coupant la belle piste
Puis piste caillouteuse passant par un petit tizi avec anciennes casemates abandonnée de l'armée, puis descente vers la vallée du Draa, avec la grande palmeraie le long de l'oued Draa visible de loin . La piste monte le Tizi sur son flanc, puis redescend en direction de Tagounite On suit sur une belle piste (belle si elle vient d'être nivelée, sinon au mieux : tôle, au pire :trous et saignées)
On passe ensuite un village étiré le long de la piste, puis à un autre petit village, quitter la piste sur laquelle on roule pour piquer à droite vers la palmeraie du Draa pas loin
Et là, grand jeu de pistes pour la traversée de cette palmeraie sur plusieurs kms, pour enfin arriver à Tagounite
Voilà, sans WP aucun, puisque vous vous dites allergique au gps
Selon votre habitude des pistes, c'est mieux de trouver un "connaisseur" pour ne pas trop tourner en rond . Faites un bon plein avant d'attaquer la piste à Taouz, ça peut être utile si un peu de jardinage se présente.
Compter 2 jours pour faire ce trajet, tranquille, sans se presser et sans se perdre, en gros 300 km entre Merzouge et Tagounite
ça peut se faire dans la journée si on connaît, et si on part tôt le matin de Taouz
PS :Je parcours cette piste tout seul, mais je la connais bien, je la parcours régulièrement depuis 10 ans . Sans préjuger de votre expérience, si on me demande, je ne la recommande pas pour un seul véhicule novice
Bonne ballade, le parcours est beau et varié
Mais le chaperon (souvent un chamelier/guide qui connait parfaitement le Sahara) permet d'éviter de retrouver des cadavres désséchées par le soleil, après s'être perdues dans les dunes ou disparues dans les "felkhikh" ! Même sur certaines pistes dont les traces ont été effacées par les vents de sable....
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Malheureusement, le temps est loin où le Sahara algérien était un lieu de liberté, où on pouvait emprunter les pistes que l'on désirait, sans chaperon d'aucune sorte
Bonjour, Entièrement d'accord.........🙁
Bonjour, Entièrement d'accord.........🙁
Il n'y a que les montagnes qui ne se rencontrent pas.
et le seul guide que l on esperait voir c etait celui çi 😉 un bon vieux poteau
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Bonjour,
Sur les pistes de TAM et du Tanezrouf, c'étaient des rails. Certains étaient tombés, mais c'était pas grave, on avait le cap.....A Bennis Abbès, un vieux Chambi m'a dit un jour que ça venait d'un stock non utilisé destiné au projet du train Algérie / Niger.......Nostalgie.........🙁.
En ce temps là ( comme disait ma grand-mère ), le guide c'était nous.........
Il n'y a que les montagnes qui ne se rencontrent pas.
oui nostalgie les poteaux etaient avant le niger et...en 80😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Pour moi, en 75, juste aprés avoir suivi " la marche verte ".........Nostalgie.......
Il n'y a que les montagnes qui ne se rencontrent pas.
salut
"Sur les pistes de TAM et du Tanezrouf, c'étaient des rails"
Sur la partie Reggane / Km 200 / Poste Weygand / Bidon v, j'ai connu une année les balises solaires avec accus .
ça a duré guère plus d'un an : les batteries étaient "récupérées " par les camionneurs allant sur BBM, et on en est revenu à la méthode classique du cap ....
"En ce temps là ( comme disait ma grand-mère ), le guide c'était nous......... "
Évidemment !! ta grand'mère a raison . Des guides, j'en ai quand même utilisé 2 fois (sur une trentaine de voyages sahariens) : une fois, par obligation pour entrer dans le Tassili Nadjer, au dessus de Djanet. Un seconde fois, en ramenant un touareg de Djanet à Tam, qui m'a fait passé par l'erg d'Admer, histoire de varier les plaisirs, en utilisant sur la fin les pistes un peu craignos à l'époque le long de la frontière lybienne (même l'armée algérienne ne s'y aventurait pas beaucoup )
Et oui, le bon temps quoi.....
"Sur les pistes de TAM et du Tanezrouf, c'étaient des rails"
Sur la partie Reggane / Km 200 / Poste Weygand / Bidon v, j'ai connu une année les balises solaires avec accus .
ça a duré guère plus d'un an : les batteries étaient "récupérées " par les camionneurs allant sur BBM, et on en est revenu à la méthode classique du cap ....
"En ce temps là ( comme disait ma grand-mère ), le guide c'était nous......... "
Évidemment !! ta grand'mère a raison . Des guides, j'en ai quand même utilisé 2 fois (sur une trentaine de voyages sahariens) : une fois, par obligation pour entrer dans le Tassili Nadjer, au dessus de Djanet. Un seconde fois, en ramenant un touareg de Djanet à Tam, qui m'a fait passé par l'erg d'Admer, histoire de varier les plaisirs, en utilisant sur la fin les pistes un peu craignos à l'époque le long de la frontière lybienne (même l'armée algérienne ne s'y aventurait pas beaucoup )
Et oui, le bon temps quoi.....
Bonsoir,
Sur les pistes de TAM et du Tanezrouf, c'étaient des rails.
Ah bon, par le Tanezrouf, j'ai plutôt le souvenir (un peu lointain) de lampadaires avec panneaux solaires qui ne s'allumaient plus, les batteries ayant fait le bonheur de quelques camionneurs ou nomades de passage ... Est-ce que je me trompe ?
JPB 😎😎
Sur les pistes de TAM et du Tanezrouf, c'étaient des rails.
Ah bon, par le Tanezrouf, j'ai plutôt le souvenir (un peu lointain) de lampadaires avec panneaux solaires qui ne s'allumaient plus, les batteries ayant fait le bonheur de quelques camionneurs ou nomades de passage ... Est-ce que je me trompe ?
JPB 😎😎
Bonsoir,
Désolé, nos réponses se sont télescopées à quelques minutes ...
JPB 😎
JPB 😎
Bonjour,
Réponse collégiale......Mais au fait, reste t'il des rails en place ? Peut etre que quelqu'un à la réponse........Pour ma part, je n'y retournerais qu'a la condition de pouvoir y circuler en toute indépendance....Vu la conjoncture, je pense que ce sera dans une autre vie.....
Il n'y a que les montagnes qui ne se rencontrent pas.
slt, reste optimiste, Il n'y a que les montagnes qui ne se rencontrent pas.
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Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!