Pistes pour voiture dans le sud du Maroc?
by JL34
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, nous partons en octobre pour visiter le sud MAROC en voiture ancienne (toyota celica).
j'ai lu attentivement les postes mais ils remontent en 2008 sur les piste entre Z AGORA et MERZOUGA.
Petite question: est t'il possible de relier ZAGORA MERZOUGA par piste en voiture?
et BOUMALNE DADES NEKOB TANSIKHT par la piste toujour en voiture
ET ou pouvons nous faire un peut de piste non cassante.
Merci pour vos réponses
jl34
Bonsoir.
Les pistes du Sud du Maroc que ce soit celle de zagora/merzouga ou celle de saghro ne peuvent être empruntées qu'avec un bon 4x4.
Piste bien entretenue ou prêtes pour être goudronnée que l'on peut éventuellement faire avec une voiture de tourisme personnelle équipée de bons pneus:
- azilal-ait mhamed-tamda-ifrane-agouti -tabant dans les ait bouguemez(superbe) et revenir par la route goudronnée agouti/azilal
- telouet-ait benhadou par la vallée de ounila(superbe)
- dans la vallée des roses de boutahrarar à alemdoun à imejgag et visite des gorges d'ameskar à pied (superbe)
- la piste de l'oasis de fint
- agouim-aoulouz par la vallée de tinfout(une partie est goudronnée;il reste env.50 km de piste)
Bon séjour
larazou
bonsoir,
grand merci, pour ses précieuses informations .
De même, Nous sommes un club dont 10 Véhicules partirons de FRANCE pour visiter le sud du MAROC.
A cette occasion, nous emporterons un cartons par voiture de vêtements pour enfants de 0 à 10 ans .
Si vous connaissez un petit village à qui cela pourrait profiter n'héritez . Merci
De même, Nous sommes un club dont 10 Véhicules partirons de FRANCE pour visiter le sud du MAROC.
A cette occasion, nous emporterons un cartons par voiture de vêtements pour enfants de 0 à 10 ans .
Si vous connaissez un petit village à qui cela pourrait profiter n'héritez . Merci
jl34
bonsoir,
grand merci, pour ses précieuses informations .
De même, Nous sommes un club dont 10 Véhicules partirons de FRANCE pour visiter le sud du MAROC.
A cette occasion, nous emporterons un cartons par voiture de vêtements pour enfants de 0 à 10 ans .
Si vous connaissez un petit village à qui cela pourrait profiter n'héritez . Merci
bonjour je vous conseille de donner lors de votre passage dans les villags sinon vous regretterez de ne plus avoir a ce moment la de toute façon vous regreterez toujours de ne pas avoir plus roulez cool pour en profiter 😏
De même, Nous sommes un club dont 10 Véhicules partirons de FRANCE pour visiter le sud du MAROC.
A cette occasion, nous emporterons un cartons par voiture de vêtements pour enfants de 0 à 10 ans .
Si vous connaissez un petit village à qui cela pourrait profiter n'héritez . Merci
bonjour je vous conseille de donner lors de votre passage dans les villags sinon vous regretterez de ne plus avoir a ce moment la de toute façon vous regreterez toujours de ne pas avoir plus roulez cool pour en profiter 😏
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Bonjour,
Ta belle auto me semble un peu trop à plat ventre pour aborder la plupart des pistes du Maroc, elle est faite pour les boulevards sablonneux, qui manifestement , ici , sont remplacés par la caillasse et les escaliers de pierre, les 2 pistes que tu cites suffisent à la délabrer plusieur fois.
Pour tes vètements, evite surtout les distributions sauvages !!!! contacte par exemple des assocs qui ont des contacts controlés sur place avec des points de dépots ou le risque de revente est minime. (par ex : www.azekka.org )
Si tu distribues sans connaitre, tout s'éparpille, c'est une manne qui tombe du ciel sans effort et ne profite pas aux plus démunis, et incitera les gamins à sècher l'école pour aller au bord de la piste pour voir l'arrivée de nouveaux miracles, et si pas de miracle , ..... caillassage.. ça occupe.
Ta belle auto me semble un peu trop à plat ventre pour aborder la plupart des pistes du Maroc, elle est faite pour les boulevards sablonneux, qui manifestement , ici , sont remplacés par la caillasse et les escaliers de pierre, les 2 pistes que tu cites suffisent à la délabrer plusieur fois.
Pour tes vètements, evite surtout les distributions sauvages !!!! contacte par exemple des assocs qui ont des contacts controlés sur place avec des points de dépots ou le risque de revente est minime. (par ex : www.azekka.org )
Si tu distribues sans connaitre, tout s'éparpille, c'est une manne qui tombe du ciel sans effort et ne profite pas aux plus démunis, et incitera les gamins à sècher l'école pour aller au bord de la piste pour voir l'arrivée de nouveaux miracles, et si pas de miracle , ..... caillassage.. ça occupe.
Si tu distribues sans connaitre, tout s'éparpille, c'est une manne qui tombe du ciel sans effort et ne profite pas aux plus démunis, et incitera les gamins à sècher l'école pour aller au bord de la piste pour voir l'arrivée de nouveaux miracles, et si pas de miracle , ..... caillassage.. ça occupe.
C'est vrai, tu as raison...J'ai répondu un peu vite à sa demande, sans y réfléchir je l'avoue😊
C'est vrai, tu as raison...J'ai répondu un peu vite à sa demande, sans y réfléchir je l'avoue😊
Bonjour,
Profitez de l'expérience de Larazou, il connait son affaire, et est de bon conseil.
Nous avons fait le "truc" avec notre Toy et tout c'est bien passé.
Le Maroc, pays adorable au demeurant, n'est pas (trop) adapté aux voitures aussi modernes que basses sur pattes, sauf, bien sur pour les vraies routes, sur lesquelles on peut (bien sur ) découvrir l'essentiel.
Petite routes non goudronnées, "OK", mais avec beaucoup de modération, sinon, c'est la casse assurée.
Bon voyage
Razul
PS/, Si du coté de Tafraoute, vous trouvez le cache plastique de la protection moteur d'un KDJ 120, c'est le mien !!, merci de le récupérer !!.
" PS/, Si du coté de Tafraoute, vous trouvez le cache plastique de la protection moteur d'un KDJ 120, c'est le mien !!"
Un cache plastique pour protéger le moteur ??????? c'est sûr faut éviter les pistes !!!!😄😄😄
Un cache plastique pour protéger le moteur ??????? c'est sûr faut éviter les pistes !!!!😄😄😄
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
merci de toutes ces réponses vraiment un super forum.
ce que nous recherchons c'est des pistes ou routes non goudronnées non pas pour y rouler comme des malades, mais pouvoir sortir un peut des itinéraires classique par route.
Pour nos voitures pas de problème de cache plastique, il sont en tôle renforcé😉.et nos voiture "moderne"..merci elle ont entre 20 et 32 ans, ont été préparées et renforcées et ne roulent pas que sur des boulevards voir sur.WWW.furious-celica-team😉
ayant reçu 2 avis contradictoires sur l'état des pites à emprunter celui de LARAZOU et celui de RAOUX..le quel est le bon ?
Quand aux colis , je pense, vu vos conseilles, nous orienter vers une asso sur place, en espérant que TOUT sera distribué
Pour nos voitures pas de problème de cache plastique, il sont en tôle renforcé😉.et nos voiture "moderne"..merci elle ont entre 20 et 32 ans, ont été préparées et renforcées et ne roulent pas que sur des boulevards voir sur.WWW.furious-celica-team😉
ayant reçu 2 avis contradictoires sur l'état des pites à emprunter celui de LARAZOU et celui de RAOUX..le quel est le bon ?
Quand aux colis , je pense, vu vos conseilles, nous orienter vers une asso sur place, en espérant que TOUT sera distribué
jl34
Bonjour,
Je ne vois pas ou il y a contradiction :
* ***les piste entre Z AGORA et MERZOUGA.*** 50 % caillasse et fond d'oued , qui nécessitent une vraie garde au sol de vrai 4x4. avec effectivement quelques passages de surf amusants. * ***BOUMALNE DADES NEKOB TANSIKHT **** au moins 10 kms d'escaliers et grosse caillasse qui, aussi, nécessite une vraie garde au sol, Notre ami Larazou, dit la même chose : * *****Les pistes du Sud du Maroc que ce soit celle de zagora/merzouga ou celle de saghro ne peuvent être empruntées qu'avec un bon 4x4. ***l
* ***ou pouvons nous faire un peut de piste non cassante. **** c'est bien ce que tu avais demandé ! Moi j'irais vers la sud de Sidi Ifni, plage blanche, El ouatia, mais la plus gros problème de garde au sol , mais de sable variable. Ou sur le Rekkam.
Je ne vois pas ou il y a contradiction :
* ***les piste entre Z AGORA et MERZOUGA.*** 50 % caillasse et fond d'oued , qui nécessitent une vraie garde au sol de vrai 4x4. avec effectivement quelques passages de surf amusants. * ***BOUMALNE DADES NEKOB TANSIKHT **** au moins 10 kms d'escaliers et grosse caillasse qui, aussi, nécessite une vraie garde au sol, Notre ami Larazou, dit la même chose : * *****Les pistes du Sud du Maroc que ce soit celle de zagora/merzouga ou celle de saghro ne peuvent être empruntées qu'avec un bon 4x4. ***l
* ***ou pouvons nous faire un peut de piste non cassante. **** c'est bien ce que tu avais demandé ! Moi j'irais vers la sud de Sidi Ifni, plage blanche, El ouatia, mais la plus gros problème de garde au sol , mais de sable variable. Ou sur le Rekkam.
C'est tout simplement le cache d'un trou d'accès au bouchon de vidange moteur (NDLR !!)
Bye,
Razul
C'est tout simplement le cache d'un trou d'accès au bouchon de vidange moteur (NDLR !!)
Bye,
Razul
salut c est pas plutot le bouchon de mise a l air??😉
salut c est pas plutot le bouchon de mise a l air??😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Bonsoir.
Les pistes du Sud du Maroc que ce soit celle de zagora/merzouga ou celle de saghro ne peuvent être empruntées qu'avec un bon 4x4.
Piste bien entretenue ou prêtes pour être goudronnée que l'on peut éventuellement faire avec une voiture de tourisme personnelle équipée de bons pneus:
- azilal-ait mhamed-tamda-ifrane-agouti -tabant dans les ait bouguemez(superbe) et revenir par la route goudronnée agouti/azilal
- telouet-ait benhadou par la vallée de ounila(superbe)
- dans la vallée des roses de boutahrarar à alemdoun à imejgag et visite des gorges d'ameskar à pied (superbe)
- la piste de l'oasis de fint
- agouim-aoulouz par la vallée de tinfout(une partie est goudronnée;il reste env.50 km de piste)
Bon séjour
Bonjour, Désolé Quand je disais "contradiction", c'était pour les pistes énumérées par LARAZOU pouvant être prisent par des voitures de tourismes, et non celles de ZAGORA/MERZOUGA Je pense que nous prendrons telouet - ait benhadou et la piste de l'oasis de fint Merci.
Bonjour, Désolé Quand je disais "contradiction", c'était pour les pistes énumérées par LARAZOU pouvant être prisent par des voitures de tourismes, et non celles de ZAGORA/MERZOUGA Je pense que nous prendrons telouet - ait benhadou et la piste de l'oasis de fint Merci.
jl34
Bonjour,
Pour aller à Fint, même une BMW série 7 y arriverait maintenant ! @+
😉 bonjour reste neanmoins un ptit bout de piste a faire gaff si t y va avec ta bmw disons 1 km😉😉
Pour aller à Fint, même une BMW série 7 y arriverait maintenant ! @+
😉 bonjour reste neanmoins un ptit bout de piste a faire gaff si t y va avec ta bmw disons 1 km😉😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
Bonjour.
La piste d'accès à l'oasis de fint n'est pas intégrée dans les travaux de terrassement et de goudronnage de la futur route pour taznakht via tisli n'ait doudchene.
Par ailleurs, il y a un oued sans radier à traverser.
Lors de mon dernier passage, le proprio était entrain de construire sur les hauteurs une piste pour éviter la traversée de l'oued.
larazou
Bonjour.
La piste d'accès à l'oasis de fint n'est pas intégrée dans les travaux de terrassement et de goudronnage de la futur route pour taznakht via tisli n'ait doudchene.
Par ailleurs, il y a un oued sans radier à traverser.
Lors de mon dernier passage, le proprio était entrain de construire sur les hauteurs une piste pour éviter la traversée de l'oued.
bonjour le proprio de quoi???😉
bonjour le proprio de quoi???😉
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
un charme de l oasis qui s en va (un de plus)
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
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All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!






