Pourquoi voit-on si peu de sacs à dos à l'arrière des vélos?
by Corsicanico
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'ai pas mal bourlingué en vélo, bien que beaucoup aient fait beaucoup plus, et j'ai souvent été gêné de ne pas avoir de vrai sac à dos avec moi de plus d'une vingtaine de litre (c'est le volume des sacoches arrières transformables en sac à dos). J'imagine que je ne suis pas le seul à qui un vrai sac à dos manque. Par ailleurs, je m'étonne de ne pas voir plus de sac à dos, placé à l'horizontale sur le porte bagage arrière, au dessus des sacoches latérales.
J'envisage de partir cet été aux usa en vélo, et j'aimerai disposer d'un sac à dos (pour faire quelques rando à pied). A votre avis, pourquoi voit-on si peu de sac à dos à l'arrière des vélos ? Quel est le problème que je n'ai pas identifié ?
Merci d'avance
Partir c'est mourir un petit peu, mais mourir, c'est partir beaucoup
bonjour
2 reponses, l'une qu'il est mal pratique de joindre randos et cyclotourisme, car ce nest pas le meme equipement, donc un surpoid peu utilise, chaussures, batons, polaire, tente ultralegere (en velo on peut transporter une tente plus confortable), matelas special neige, crampons, piolet, soit 5 a 7 kg.
lautre est un probleme d'equilibre du sac sur le porte bagage arriere. un sac ordinaire est trop large. il faut un sac dalpinisme, beaucoup plus cher, 250 euros..... une solution est de fabriquer un berceau visse au porte bagage arriere pour poser et maintenir le sac a dos. reste que ca devient genant pour ouvrir les sacoches arriere, sil y en a. meme chose si le sac est en travers, impossible douvrir les sacoches sans lenlever.
si tu roule avec un velo a petites roues, tu peux mettre le sac a dos a lavant, et avec un trail dedans.
a + pierre
lautre est un probleme d'equilibre du sac sur le porte bagage arriere. un sac ordinaire est trop large. il faut un sac dalpinisme, beaucoup plus cher, 250 euros..... une solution est de fabriquer un berceau visse au porte bagage arriere pour poser et maintenir le sac a dos. reste que ca devient genant pour ouvrir les sacoches arriere, sil y en a. meme chose si le sac est en travers, impossible douvrir les sacoches sans lenlever.
si tu roule avec un velo a petites roues, tu peux mettre le sac a dos a lavant, et avec un trail dedans.
a + pierre
tout le monde prétend que la Terre est ronde, mais ne le croyez pas, en fait elle est plate bien sûr!
http://mandolpierre.overblog.com
Dans nos voyages à vélo, nous faisons de la rando mais uniquement à la journée, donc peu de matos. nous utilisons des baskets de trail pour limiter le poids, que nous utilisons aussi pour faire du tourisme en ville.
ce genre de sac , peu présenter un interet :
http://www.paris-voile.com/4287-sac-etanche-drybag-8-62l-58x36x23cm.html
ce genre de sac , peu présenter un interet :
http://www.paris-voile.com/4287-sac-etanche-drybag-8-62l-58x36x23cm.html
jules
http://hotwaker.free.fr/
Merci pour vos réponses.
Effectivement, ce sont deux activités différentes. Mais des fois, ça démange de quitter la route.🙂
Le sac à dos étanche de 62 l pourrait effectivement faire l'affaire. L'avez vous essayez ? Est-il portable plusieurs heures ou les bretelles sont elles là uniquement pour permettre de le porter de la voiture au bateau ? Les coutures des brettelles sont elles suffisamment solides pour porter un sac de 15 kg pendant plusieurs heures ?
Nicolas
Le sac à dos étanche de 62 l pourrait effectivement faire l'affaire. L'avez vous essayez ? Est-il portable plusieurs heures ou les bretelles sont elles là uniquement pour permettre de le porter de la voiture au bateau ? Les coutures des brettelles sont elles suffisamment solides pour porter un sac de 15 kg pendant plusieurs heures ?
Nicolas
Partir c'est mourir un petit peu, mais mourir, c'est partir beaucoup
bonjour
pour les ballades a la journee, jai vu un cycliste qui avait remplace les sacoches avant par des sacs a dos de 25 litres tenus au porte bagage par des mousquetons.
je roule avec des chaussures de rando legeres, type forclaz 600 de D4, depuis des annees, cest tres confort, meme quand il fait chaud. et ainsi une seule paire de chaussures, plus les tongues.
a + pierre
je roule avec des chaussures de rando legeres, type forclaz 600 de D4, depuis des annees, cest tres confort, meme quand il fait chaud. et ainsi une seule paire de chaussures, plus les tongues.
a + pierre
tout le monde prétend que la Terre est ronde, mais ne le croyez pas, en fait elle est plate bien sûr!
http://mandolpierre.overblog.com
Bonjour
Je mets un sac à dos de 65 litres en travers sur le porte-bagages et les sacoches, à l'intérieur du sac j'y loge la tente et le bâton de marche.
Cela me permet de faire des treks de plusieurs jours en autonomie avec un vrai sac à dos confortable et adapté au portage lourd avec tente, réchaud, popote, duvet, fringues, nourriture.....
Il est vrai que cela occasionne un peu de poids supplémentaire sur le vélo, le sac pèse 2kg à vide, un baton de marche télescopique environ 300gr. Une bonne paire de chaussure dans les 1.5kg quoiqu'en 2009 j'ai fait le classique trek Landmannalaugar-Skogar avec des chaussures semi-montante Shimano MT90 dont j'avais pris soin de démonter les cales et remonter les obturateurs en caoutchouc, les semelles des MT90 sont en Vibram et la doublure est en Goretex .
L'an passé j'ai préféré emporter une vraie paire de chaussures de rando car la tige des MT90 est un peu basse à mon gout et ne maintient donc pas idéalement les chevilles sur des itinéraires un peu difficile.
On peut donc faire un mixte vélo-rando facilement , pour moi le plus délicat est de trouver un endroit sûr où laisser le vélo et les bagages plusieurs jours pendant la ou les randos à pied .
@+
François
Galeries de photos sur l'Islande à vélo:http://cyclophoto.free.fr/
Voyage à vélo en 2017 Asie centrale (Pamir) puis Corée et Japon : http://resilience-a-velo.over-blog.com/
pour moi le plus délicat est de trouver un endroit sûr où laisser le vélo et les bagages plusieurs jours pendant la ou les randos à pied .
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François
c'est le point le plus important à mon avis. 🙂
c'est le point le plus important à mon avis. 🙂
jules
http://hotwaker.free.fr/
ce genre de sac , peu présenter un interet :
http://www.paris-voile.com/...-62l-58x36x23cm.html
ce genre de sac a l'interet d'etre étanche. Mais honnêtement, pour la vraie marche a pieds, il faut un vrai sac a dos confortable a porter. C'est vrai, velo et marche necessitent du materiel un peu different, et il faut faire un peu des compromis. Tout depend quelle type de marche on envisage.
ce genre de sac a l'interet d'etre étanche. Mais honnêtement, pour la vraie marche a pieds, il faut un vrai sac a dos confortable a porter. C'est vrai, velo et marche necessitent du materiel un peu different, et il faut faire un peu des compromis. Tout depend quelle type de marche on envisage.
"If no one responds to your call, walk alone, walk alone" (Rabindranath Trahore)
pour ma part j'ai reclyclé un sac a dos de montagne de volume reduit, produit technique et j' attache a l'extérieur vetement technique tente matellas et rechaud. je trouve les sacs de + de 15 litres trop encombrant.
Merci à tous pour ces précisions.
Au final, je vais tester la possibilité de fixer un sac à dos de 45 l en travers du porte bagage, au dessus des sacoches latérales. Il faut juste vérifier que la tente, préalablement mise dans un sac étanche souple loge à l'intérieur.
Pour ce qui est de laissé le vélo sans surveillance, je n'ai jamais eu de problème à trouver un camping ou un magasin de vélo, ou un particulier chez qui le pauser.
Nicolas
Partir c'est mourir un petit peu, mais mourir, c'est partir beaucoup
Je cherche la même configuration car je pars en famille en asie du sud-est pendant 10 mois en désirant alterner vélo et rando.
Je pense installer ce type de sac ultra léger sur mon porte bagages (au lieu de prendre un boudin)= 35l pour 385 grammes ! http://www.arklight-design.com/PBCPPlayer.asp?ID=335310 (je suis un adepte des MUL 😉 = Marcheurs Ultra Légers, site web à étudier absolument avant tout voyage : http://www.randonner-leger.org/wiki/doku.php?id=accueil ).
Je pense installer ce type de sac ultra léger sur mon porte bagages (au lieu de prendre un boudin)= 35l pour 385 grammes ! http://www.arklight-design.com/PBCPPlayer.asp?ID=335310 (je suis un adepte des MUL 😉 = Marcheurs Ultra Légers, site web à étudier absolument avant tout voyage : http://www.randonner-leger.org/wiki/doku.php?id=accueil ).
Je cherche également une solution d'un sac étanche qui peut se mettre sur le dos pour quelques jours de trek, tout en étant relativement compact pour aller sur mon porte bagage Tubus cargo.
Le sac Arklight Design semble vraiment bien mais comment fais tu pour emmener ta tente et ton duvet ? En sac à dos étanche, il y a aussi celui-ci
Moi, j'hésite à acheter un sac Base camp North face Duffel qui est étanche, assez petit pour aller sur le porte bagage et dans l'avion en cabine, résistant et avec des bretelles confortables. Le seul point négatif est la fermeture pas totalement étanche et le dos inexistant lorsqu'il est porté en sac à dos.
Le sac Arklight Design semble vraiment bien mais comment fais tu pour emmener ta tente et ton duvet ? En sac à dos étanche, il y a aussi celui-ci
Moi, j'hésite à acheter un sac Base camp North face Duffel qui est étanche, assez petit pour aller sur le porte bagage et dans l'avion en cabine, résistant et avec des bretelles confortables. Le seul point négatif est la fermeture pas totalement étanche et le dos inexistant lorsqu'il est porté en sac à dos.
Le sac à dos SAC A DOS ETANCHE - HPA SMJ DRY 40 BLACK dont tu as donné le lien est vraiment ce que je recherchais. (http://www.hpa-shop.com/description.php?lang=1&path=81&sort=Id&page=0&id=418)
J'ai l'impression que c'est un très bon compromis. Je m'étonne que Vaude et Ortlieb n'aient pas sorti un produit similaire avec des fixations bagages compatibles avec le reste de leur gamme.Merci
Partir c'est mourir un petit peu, mais mourir, c'est partir beaucoup
Oups, je n'ai pas répondu à ta question.
Jusqu'à présent, la tente me servait pour le voyage à vélo et je m'arrangeais pendant mes randos pour dormir en refuge, cela me permet d'avoir un sac relativement petit (duvet + vêtement + nourriture).
Partir c'est mourir un petit peu, mais mourir, c'est partir beaucoup
Le sac Arklight Design a l'air pas mal, mais il n'est pas étanche contrairement au sac SMJ (sévère mais juste (sic !))
Partir c'est mourir un petit peu, mais mourir, c'est partir beaucoup
La configuration vélo/rando est la suivante : sur chaque vélo il y a deux sacoches ortleib arrière + le sac à dos étanche sur porte bagage + 1 sacoche guidon. J'ai de quoi tout ranger, tente et tout le toutim.
Pour te répondre Corsicano, crois-tu vraiment que le sac SMJ est plus étanche que le Wanderer ? En tout cas, il est plus lourd, et ça.....c'est mon critère premier !😎
Pour te répondre Corsicano, crois-tu vraiment que le sac SMJ est plus étanche que le Wanderer ? En tout cas, il est plus lourd, et ça.....c'est mon critère premier !😎
Je crois que peu de randonneurs à vélo font de la rando à pieds pendant leurs voyages.
Personnellement, j'ai toujours un sac à dos avec moi. A vélo, je m'allège de plus en plus et utilise une bonne partie du même équipement sur les 2 activités.
Trouver à laisser le vélo pour plusieurs semaines ne m'a jamais posé de problèmes. Au cours de mon dernier voyage à vélo de 6 mois en 2010 en Inde du nord-est et au Népal, j'ai fait 5 treks (55 jours).Ça permet de voir d'autres paysages, de monter plus haut...de mieux découvrir les pays traversés.
En ce moment j'utilise notamment un sac Golite jam2 et une tente Terranova laser d'1 kg.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
Si on voit peu de gros sacs à dos sur les vélos c’est probablement que peu de cyclistes marient rando à vélo et à pieds sur plusieurs jours. Voila ce que j’ai essayé, premier voyage au Ladakh avec vélo, sommet et trek de 2 semaines; deuxième du Tadjikistan à Katmandou terminant par un trek au Népal.
Je suis parti sur un sac de 60 L (65 peut-être avec la rehausse), à ceinture de hanche amovible. Il s’agit d’un sac d’alpinisme, donc pas trop large (et loin des 250 € cités par Mandolpierre) Il avait une armature rigide du dos que j’ai enlevée. Pour le voyage en avion je mets l’essentiel des bagages dans le sac à dos et les sacoches ainsi que qques bricoles volumineuses dans le carton (casque, chaussures…). Je n’ai ainsi qu’un bagage à trimballer en plus du carton à vélo. Il est à mon avis préférable que le sac remplace une ou plusieurs sacoches arrière plutôt que de s’ajouter à un ensemble de 4 sacoches ce qui représente déjà beaucoup de poids et volume.
Pour le Ladakh j’avais 2 sacoches avant et le sac à l’arrière. Je répartissais la charge arrière entre le fond du sac et le haut (en partie dans la rehausse) en laissant un espace vide au milieu du sac. Je posais le tout en travers sur le porte bagage. L’espace vide tombant au niveau de la plateforme du porte bagage faisait que la charge se répartissait de chaque côté donnant un équilibre identique à celui de 2 sacoches. Le tout maintenu en place avec une sangle et le sac à dos protégé par un sac à gravats (améliore l’étanchéité). Ça a plutôt bien fonctionné, l’inconvénient étant la difficulté d’accès au sac à dos, il ne faut rien y mettre dont on puisse avoir besoin dans la journée.
Pour le deuxième voyage j’ai modifié le système, le sac (au maximum à moitié rempli) remplace une sacoche arrière et est fixé verticalement sur le porte bagage. J’ai acheté des crochets de sacoche Vaude que j’ai fixés sur une barrette aluminium que je serre par une sangle autour du sac, me permettant ainsi d’accrocher le sac au porte bagage. Ce système ne sert qu’au positionnement du sac sur le vélo, la véritable fixation est assurée par une longue sangle qui passe autour et dessous et le maintient fermement serré contre le porte bagage. Le haut du sac repose sur la plateforme du porte bagages, il est roulé quand il est vide mais peut servir à mettre un peu de bazar volumineux au gré de la journée (fringues, Platypus d’eau…). Mon sac a ainsi voyagé plus de 4 mois sans pb particulier.
Le concept du sac étanche avec bretelles et ceinture de hanche me semble intéressant et j’y avais songé mais je n’ai rien trouvé qui semble avoir le confort de portage d’un vrai sac à dos. Je pense que ces sacs étanches sont plutôt prévus pour de courts portages (avion…). Probablement des trucs intéressants chez Arcteryx (http://www.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?FR/Mens/Packs/Arrakis-65#Over_60L par exemple) mais les 250 € sont largement dépassés ….
Je suis parti sur un sac de 60 L (65 peut-être avec la rehausse), à ceinture de hanche amovible. Il s’agit d’un sac d’alpinisme, donc pas trop large (et loin des 250 € cités par Mandolpierre) Il avait une armature rigide du dos que j’ai enlevée. Pour le voyage en avion je mets l’essentiel des bagages dans le sac à dos et les sacoches ainsi que qques bricoles volumineuses dans le carton (casque, chaussures…). Je n’ai ainsi qu’un bagage à trimballer en plus du carton à vélo. Il est à mon avis préférable que le sac remplace une ou plusieurs sacoches arrière plutôt que de s’ajouter à un ensemble de 4 sacoches ce qui représente déjà beaucoup de poids et volume.
Pour le Ladakh j’avais 2 sacoches avant et le sac à l’arrière. Je répartissais la charge arrière entre le fond du sac et le haut (en partie dans la rehausse) en laissant un espace vide au milieu du sac. Je posais le tout en travers sur le porte bagage. L’espace vide tombant au niveau de la plateforme du porte bagage faisait que la charge se répartissait de chaque côté donnant un équilibre identique à celui de 2 sacoches. Le tout maintenu en place avec une sangle et le sac à dos protégé par un sac à gravats (améliore l’étanchéité). Ça a plutôt bien fonctionné, l’inconvénient étant la difficulté d’accès au sac à dos, il ne faut rien y mettre dont on puisse avoir besoin dans la journée.
Pour le deuxième voyage j’ai modifié le système, le sac (au maximum à moitié rempli) remplace une sacoche arrière et est fixé verticalement sur le porte bagage. J’ai acheté des crochets de sacoche Vaude que j’ai fixés sur une barrette aluminium que je serre par une sangle autour du sac, me permettant ainsi d’accrocher le sac au porte bagage. Ce système ne sert qu’au positionnement du sac sur le vélo, la véritable fixation est assurée par une longue sangle qui passe autour et dessous et le maintient fermement serré contre le porte bagage. Le haut du sac repose sur la plateforme du porte bagages, il est roulé quand il est vide mais peut servir à mettre un peu de bazar volumineux au gré de la journée (fringues, Platypus d’eau…). Mon sac a ainsi voyagé plus de 4 mois sans pb particulier.
Le concept du sac étanche avec bretelles et ceinture de hanche me semble intéressant et j’y avais songé mais je n’ai rien trouvé qui semble avoir le confort de portage d’un vrai sac à dos. Je pense que ces sacs étanches sont plutôt prévus pour de courts portages (avion…). Probablement des trucs intéressants chez Arcteryx (http://www.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?FR/Mens/Packs/Arrakis-65#Over_60L par exemple) mais les 250 € sont largement dépassés ….
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I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉