Préparation d'un voyage au Botswana
by Chrisalain
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut,
Je viens de m'inscrire à voyage forum et ne suis pas un pro de ce moyen de communication, mais espère le devenir... En fait nous nous sommes inscrits à un safari au Botswana (sous tente) en bivouac. Et après avoir lu quelques une de vos expériences j'aimerai savoir quels sont les risques réels du camping au sol. Avez vous des conseils ou anecdotes à ce sujet ?
Nous partons en juillet prochain, le 15 plus exactement pour une durée de 15 jours. Nous devons visiter le PN de CHOBE - SAVUTI - MOREMI - le Delta de l'OKAVANGO - le désert du KALAHARI (MKGADIKGADI PANS) - KASANE pour finir par les Chutes VICTORIA. Christine et moi sommes fascinés par vos récits et aussi par ceux et celles qui partent seuls sans accompagnement. En ce qui nous concerne, étant limités par la durée des vacances d'été - travail oblige. Nous devons nous contenter de voyages plus conventionnels. De plus cette année nous partons en famille et j'ai convaincu ma mère mon frangin ainsi que ma filleule de venir avec nous (ils n'en sont pas à leur première expérience!) mais voudraient savoir si quelqu'un connaît "Nomade" car c'est l'organisateur de notre prochain voyage...
D'avance merci pour vos suggestions - conseils...
Tout étant bon à prendre!!!
Alain
Bjr,
je ne peux t'aider pour le bostwana, mais on a fait du bivouac en tanzanie 15 jrs et cela reste un fabuleux souvenir.Svt, douche, toilette très rudimentaires, on prenait une bassine pour se laver.Les animaux la nuit tournaient autour de la tente, c'était extraordinaire de les entendre!
Karine
partout en voyage avec les enfants
😉 Merci pour ta réponse, cela rassurera un peu les autres membres du voyage certains commençaient à baliser à cause des bestioles qui rampent, piques.... Pas frocément les plus grosses. En effet l'idée de la proximité des animaux nous exite... Quand aux toilettes nous ferons avec, je pense que le coté sauvage compensera sans problème ces petits inconvénients.
Alain
il suffit de bien fermer sa tente à chaque fois.
On y a été avec nos 3 jeunes enfants, aucune crainte.Par contre, la nuit, impossible de sortir pour la pause petit-coin!🤪 et aucune nourriture dans la tente.
Karine
Karine
partout en voyage avec les enfants
Salut Chrisalain,
Alors je vais te rassurer sur deux points ! Au Botswana dans les campings( qui sont aménagés), les douches et toilettes sont là. Faudra simplement bien ranger la nourriture dans les containers et les poubelles aussi ( mais le guide y veillera )pour éviter les visites nocturnes des chacals..
Dans le delta, c'est un peu différent, certains endroits sont vraiment sauvages pour le camping et les animaux sont très proches.
Et l'autre point, les bébêtes qui piquent et qui rampent, vous n'en verrez pas sur votre parcours.
A part ça, c'est super, sauf peut -être le Kalahari qui peut décevoir par rapport à l'idée que l'on s'en fait.
Bon voyage !
😎 Salut Karine, et merci pour ta réponse.
En fait je brûle de partir, en ce moment je suis en congé, et je dispose d'un peu de temps pour visiter le site de VoyageForum, que je trouve vraiment génial. C'est vraiment super de pouvoir discuter avec des gens qui partagent le même centre d'intérêt.
Encore merci pour tes conseils.
En fait je brûle de partir, en ce moment je suis en congé, et je dispose d'un peu de temps pour visiter le site de VoyageForum, que je trouve vraiment génial. C'est vraiment super de pouvoir discuter avec des gens qui partagent le même centre d'intérêt.
Encore merci pour tes conseils.
Alain
😉 Coucou, une recrue du forum
je pars avec alain au mois de juillet, j'aimerai connaître des impressions sur le désert du kalahari plus précisément vers makgadikgadi pans car il paraît que les paysages sont un peu décevants? ahh oui j'allais oublier, au faire un "safari" dans le delta de l'okavango en mokoro pendant un jour et demi permet-il d'apercevoir beaucoup d'animaux ?? Des oiseaux des antilopes ?
ben merci à tous !!
normalement c'est un circuit sans soucis
je pense que les plus intéressant seront savuti et chobe
savuti est près de la rivière chobe il y a des toilettes qui ressemblent fort à un bunker pour éviter que les éléphants s'en prennent à leur aise avec les robinets
généralement c'est calme mais pas toujours
de temps en temps un troupeau d'éléphants traverse le camping la nuit
une fois dans le noi un éléphant butte sur une ficelle de tente surpris il recule et s'assoiet sur le capot d'un toy ! l'alarme se met en fonction et voilà une 15 aine d'éléphants courant dans le camping dans tous les sens......
je pense que les plus intéressant seront savuti et chobe
savuti est près de la rivière chobe il y a des toilettes qui ressemblent fort à un bunker pour éviter que les éléphants s'en prennent à leur aise avec les robinets
généralement c'est calme mais pas toujours
de temps en temps un troupeau d'éléphants traverse le camping la nuit
une fois dans le noi un éléphant butte sur une ficelle de tente surpris il recule et s'assoiet sur le capot d'un toy ! l'alarme se met en fonction et voilà une 15 aine d'éléphants courant dans le camping dans tous les sens......
Petit guide pour la photo en voyage... en cours de rédaction..
Quand un sage me montre du doigt la lune, moi je m'en tape je continue de rêver aux étoiles.
😕 Salut,
J'ai bien pris note pour les éléphants, nous nous tiendrons loin des robinets, et puis nous prendrons les casques coloniaux.......
En fait au plus ça va au plus nous nous languissons de partir.
Tous ce que nous avons pu lire jusqu'à présent nous attire. En Effet le Parc de Chobé (avec tous ces éléphants...) a l'air très interessant...
Et encore merci pour la réponse.
Alain
Salut chrisalain,
Je rentre de ce voyage particulierement sauvage, les points fort sont moremi, car nuit en brousses "out of africa" les hyenes, les babouins, les hippos tournent autour des tentes la nuit, c'est une epreuve pour les "troulliards" et cela reste dangereux pour tous, les safaris a moremi sont difficillent et il est pas sur de voir des fauves, a moins que, au cours de la nuit le lion s'invite autour du feux, et la ! tous aux tentes sans précipitations...... !!!!!!
Pour chobé, seul les safaris en bateau sont interessants, attention aux crocos !!! un touriste temeraire s'est fait croquer.... il y a egalement des manbas noir et des cobras, nous en avons tué un de 2.50m, un autre manbas a tourné autour de ma tente la nuit, ils cherche la chaleur, alors bien fermer les tentes la nuit, et bien regarder ou l'on met les pieds au cours du pipi, la nuit.
Victoria falls, merveilleux!!! pas mal de choses a faire, la montée des gorges en jet est superbe, livingstone pas terrible!!! mais attention pas de marche a pied entre la ville et les chutes, les bushmens agressent les touristes pour les dévalisser. il ya un village a coté des chutes qu'il faut visiter c'est sympa.
Voila, a part cela c'est déja pas mal, le kalahari et les les pans du mkgadikgadi c'est pas terrible!!!!
C'est mon commentaire, j'ai fait beaucoup de safari en afrique, namibie, kenya tansanie, mais pour un premier safari c'est un peu raid, surtout le camping !!!
Bon voyage a tous, en etant prudent, il n'y aura pas de problemes, et au retour on peu se vanter d'etre un peu "tarzan", difficille quand meme de voyager seul .... pour ma part je ne suis pas candidat....
ce voyage, etait organisé sur place par kiboko aventures avec transport en camion .
TCHAO, TCHAO
TCHAO, TCHAO
Salut Jambobuana, et merci pour ton récit.
Alors il est possible de sortir de la tente la nuit ? Je pensais que non à cause du risque de se trouver nez à nez avec une hyène. J’ai lu qu’elles venaient chercher les reliefs des repas lorsque le feu de camp était éteint. D’ailleurs à ce sujet ce que nous redoutons le plus est la « tourista » si nous ne pouvons aller aux toilettes la nuit, il est en effet difficile de maîtriser ce genre d’envie. La plus part du temps nous serons en bivouac, et non en camping. En fait les cinq premiers jours, nous serons dans le Parc de CHOBE nord puis CHOBE sud – SAVUTI – rivière KWAI en bivouac. Ensuite MOREMI –MAUN –DELTA DE L’OKAVANGO pour deux nuits en camping, et une en bivouac sur les berges de l’OKAVANGO. Après désert du KALAHARI – MAKGADIKGADI PANS encore une nuit de bivouac. Puis KASANE avec une nuit dans un camping près du fleuve CHOBE, après quoi nous finissons avec deux jours aux chutes VICTORIA avec deux nuits en Lodge (il est probable qu’on appréciera de dormir dans une vraie chambre sur de bons matelas….)
En fait ce n’est pas notre premier safari, car l’an dernier, en juillet nous étions au KENYA pour une version beaucoup plus luxe – en fait nous étions tous les soirs dans des Loges, tous plus beau les uns que les autres. Mais en réalité ce que nous avions préféré c’était les deux dernières nuits dans le Massaï Mara au « Mara Fig Tree Camp » un camp superbe installé sur les bords de la rivière Talek affluent de la Mara River. Pourtant notre premier contact en arrivant à notre tente était un magnifique spécimen de maba noir – drôle d’accueil non ? Et puis les bruits des scènes de chasse la nuit… La proximité des animaux…. C’est un peu ce qui à motivé notre choix pour la destination du BOTSWANA en juillet prochain. Aussi pur découvrir un autre coté de l'AFRIQUE - Cest un continent vraiment merveilleux.
Nous partons avec « NOMADE », ce sera la première fois, mais il paraît qu’ils sont bien ???
Alain
il y a deux choses à prendre en compte dans le camping en afrique
c'est de surestimer le danger
et de sous estimer le danger
les animaux n'attaquent pas, sauf s'ils sont surpris ou coincés
il vaut donc mieux éviter de sortir de la tente la nuit mais si on sort autant avoir repéreer les lieux la veille et le faire plutôt bruyament que discrètement
les animaux n'attaquent pas, sauf s'ils sont surpris ou coincés
il vaut donc mieux éviter de sortir de la tente la nuit mais si on sort autant avoir repéreer les lieux la veille et le faire plutôt bruyament que discrètement
Petit guide pour la photo en voyage... en cours de rédaction..
Quand un sage me montre du doigt la lune, moi je m'en tape je continue de rêver aux étoiles.
OK et merci,
Est-il vrai qu'il ne faut pas éclairer de lumière à l'intérieur de la tente? Car j'ai lu que les fauves avaient tendance à prendre les tentes pour des constructions en dur... et que la lumière leur permettrai de considérer la fragilité de l'édifice. Pour ma part je ne comprends pas trop car il me semble qu’une hyène, lion… ont un odorat développé et qu’ils doivent bien sentir notre présence à travers la toile.
😕
Alain
En fait, le Kalahari est très vaste. le nord en effet n'est pas très palpitant et ne ressemble pas vraiment à un désert.
Par contre sa partie du sud au nord de l'Afrique du sud est très belle : ondulations de dunes oranges, végétation vert tendre (c'était en février et il avait beaucoup plu!), la couleur orange des dunes se reflète dans la base des cumulus . On avait vu plein de lions (à les toucher!!! mais on n'a pas essayé) avec des petits. sinon: gnous, antilopes, outardes, zèbres, suricate, un guépard aussi. Ni girafes, ni éléphant.
bref, il y a Kalahari et Kalahari...
Marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Oui, bien sûr ...Mais je parlais de la partie que j'ai vue, entre Nata et Maun, et là c'est pas super. MAIS, c'est là que j'ai vu pour la deuxième fois de ma vie, des lycaons, cinq, traverser tranquillement la route et nous regarder pendant des minutes entières..! Grand moment !🙂
Rebonjour Alain,
Merci de ta reponse, je vois que tu n'est pas completement novice en la matiere, et que les info arrivent a la pelle concernant le botswana, alors acuna matata!!! le kalahari n'est pas super entre joburg et maun par contre comme l'explique la demoiselle, il est vraiment superbe coté namibie, j'ai fait cette partie avec un 4x4 de loc, et je pense que la namibie est le plus beau pays d'afrique australe autant par les paysages que par les endemies, qu'elles soient vegetales ou animales, pour les humains les"himbas" du kaokoland c'est super, mais a l'epoque ou j'etais sur place il y avait difficultés pour s'y rendre causses guerre avec l'angola.
Mais le bostwana, c'est tres sauvage, les écosystemes y sont differrents, et il ne faut pas comparer avec le kenya ou la tanzanie, les safaris sont plus sauvage et un peu moins parc ou reserve, cela n'est pas mal non plus, le paysage n'est pas aussi varié.
Pour ma part je ne me lasse pas de parcourir ces pays, et je vous souhaitent de les apprécier chacun pour ce qu'ils sont.
Bon voyage a toute la famille, et un petit matelas autogonflable en plus pour la maman ne sera pas du luxe Amicalement,
Bon voyage a toute la famille, et un petit matelas autogonflable en plus pour la maman ne sera pas du luxe Amicalement,
😛 Juste de passage sur le net le temps de me rendre compte de tous vos messages. Ce soir nous avons du monde à dîner. Aussi je serai bref. Politesse olblige....
Encore un grand merci à tous. Je suis vraiment touché par votre sympatie.A plus pour de nouveaux échanges.
Amicalement.
Alain.
Alain
Bonjour,
Nous sommes partis au Botswana en famille il y a deux ans avec Nomade. Voyage super, apparemment la copie conforme de ce que vous allez faire. Nous étions cinq et avions demandé un voyage exclusif (pas d'autres personnes). En fait Nomade sous traite à une agence locale et j'espère pour vous qu'ils ont gardé la même agence : Endeavour safaris. Vous trouverez sur Internet un récit en photos de notre voyage : http://voyage-botswana.over-blog.com/
Par rapport à votre voyage : je pense et j'espère que vous serez en camps HATAB dans les réserves : ce sont des campings exclusifs, beaucoup plus propres que les campings publics. En plus vous vous retrouvez seuls dans la nuit africaine tous les soirs. Frissons garantis, nuits blanches assurées mais nous avons adoré : les lions et les hyènes visitent le camp la nuit, les éléphants mangent les branches au dessus de vos têtes. Difficile d'aller faire pipi la nuit. Au niveau serpent et scorpions, pas de problèmes car il fait trop froid, on voit des serpents mais ils sont un peu endormis.
Notre seule vraie frayeur a été un jour avec des hippos sur le delta, mais les décharges d'adrénaline ont été bien sur plus nombreuses
La présence d'un guide est un plus : nous avons délaissé les attroupements de sudafricains qui voyageaient en convois et se précipitaient dès qu'ils voient une voiture arrêtée. Nous avons été dans des endroits un peu plus isolés en sortant des sentiers battus et avons pu ainsi observer des lions des après midi entières sans personne autout de nous.
Attention aux températures : il y a deux ans au mois de Juillet, il y a eu une période de quinze jours où il faisait 0°C le matin. En Aout, nous avions 5°C. Prévoir des polaires et des duvets bien chauds. Sinon dans la journée il fait entre 25 et 30 °C donc pas de problèmes
Mkadikgadi Pans : pas terrible, mais c'est une halte obligée sur la route entre Moremi et Kasane (sinon l'étape est longue sur une route toute droite avec une limitation à 80 km/h où, oui ! nous avons été arrêté pour excès de vitesse). En fait les pans sont désertés en cette saison car il n'y a plus d'eau. Ce serait intéressant de les visiter et d'entrer franchement dans les pans mais je pense que votre programme ne le permet pas.
Si vous souhaitez plus de renseignements, vous pourrez trouver notre adresse email sur le blog référencé ci dessus.
Nous y retournerons en Octobre 2007, en nous concentrant sur Moremi et Savuti.
Je vous souhaite un bon voyage
Nous sommes partis au Botswana en famille il y a deux ans avec Nomade. Voyage super, apparemment la copie conforme de ce que vous allez faire. Nous étions cinq et avions demandé un voyage exclusif (pas d'autres personnes). En fait Nomade sous traite à une agence locale et j'espère pour vous qu'ils ont gardé la même agence : Endeavour safaris. Vous trouverez sur Internet un récit en photos de notre voyage : http://voyage-botswana.over-blog.com/
Par rapport à votre voyage : je pense et j'espère que vous serez en camps HATAB dans les réserves : ce sont des campings exclusifs, beaucoup plus propres que les campings publics. En plus vous vous retrouvez seuls dans la nuit africaine tous les soirs. Frissons garantis, nuits blanches assurées mais nous avons adoré : les lions et les hyènes visitent le camp la nuit, les éléphants mangent les branches au dessus de vos têtes. Difficile d'aller faire pipi la nuit. Au niveau serpent et scorpions, pas de problèmes car il fait trop froid, on voit des serpents mais ils sont un peu endormis.
Notre seule vraie frayeur a été un jour avec des hippos sur le delta, mais les décharges d'adrénaline ont été bien sur plus nombreuses
La présence d'un guide est un plus : nous avons délaissé les attroupements de sudafricains qui voyageaient en convois et se précipitaient dès qu'ils voient une voiture arrêtée. Nous avons été dans des endroits un peu plus isolés en sortant des sentiers battus et avons pu ainsi observer des lions des après midi entières sans personne autout de nous.
Attention aux températures : il y a deux ans au mois de Juillet, il y a eu une période de quinze jours où il faisait 0°C le matin. En Aout, nous avions 5°C. Prévoir des polaires et des duvets bien chauds. Sinon dans la journée il fait entre 25 et 30 °C donc pas de problèmes
Mkadikgadi Pans : pas terrible, mais c'est une halte obligée sur la route entre Moremi et Kasane (sinon l'étape est longue sur une route toute droite avec une limitation à 80 km/h où, oui ! nous avons été arrêté pour excès de vitesse). En fait les pans sont désertés en cette saison car il n'y a plus d'eau. Ce serait intéressant de les visiter et d'entrer franchement dans les pans mais je pense que votre programme ne le permet pas.
Si vous souhaitez plus de renseignements, vous pourrez trouver notre adresse email sur le blog référencé ci dessus.
Nous y retournerons en Octobre 2007, en nous concentrant sur Moremi et Savuti.
Je vous souhaite un bon voyage
Rebonjour,
J'ai déjà répondu mais voudrais rajouter un détail : nous avions comme antipalu de la savarine et nous avons eu comme effet secondaire des problèmes intestinaux : dur, dur la nuit. Je peux témoigner qu'on peut sortir de sa tente la nuit mais c'est très peu agréable... L'année suivante à Mada nous avons pris Malarone : c'est plus cher, mais c'est parfait. Dans tous les cas, éviter le Lariam (notre agence de voyages nous avait raconté qu'ils avaient des rapatriements chaque année de clients sous Lariam - les bouffées délirantes sont peu compatibles avec les nuits au milieu des lions)
J'ai déjà répondu mais voudrais rajouter un détail : nous avions comme antipalu de la savarine et nous avons eu comme effet secondaire des problèmes intestinaux : dur, dur la nuit. Je peux témoigner qu'on peut sortir de sa tente la nuit mais c'est très peu agréable... L'année suivante à Mada nous avons pris Malarone : c'est plus cher, mais c'est parfait. Dans tous les cas, éviter le Lariam (notre agence de voyages nous avait raconté qu'ils avaient des rapatriements chaque année de clients sous Lariam - les bouffées délirantes sont peu compatibles avec les nuits au milieu des lions)
Merci beaucoup pour ces conseils.
Ne tennez pas compte du la question que je vous ai envoyer par mail (adresse prise sur votre blog)
Nous vous souhatons aussi un bon voyage pour 2007. Et ceux qui précèderons.
Alain
Alain
Bjr alain,
vous êtes peut être rentrés? cela s'est passé comment?
Merci bcp!
Karine
partout en voyage avec les enfants
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Bonjour à tous
Le voyage en Afrique du Sud se rapproche (2 mois quand même 😏) et je me replonge dans mon programme: du samedi au dimanche suivant autour du Cap et du dimanche au samedi suivant dans le Kruger.
En ce qui concerne le Cap, l'idée était de ne pas changer tous les jours de logement (on le fera suffisamment pour la 2ème partie) mais de voir quand même des paysages différents. Alors je sais, je rate plein de choses mais il faut bien faire des choix et puis à force, je sais ce que j'aime et surtout ce que je n'aime pas (ou moins) 😉
Ce qui donne donc:
Arrivée samedi à 11h: direction Hermanus (2 nuits). L'idée est a priori de se balader le long du cliff path l'après-midi, éventuellement d'aller en voiture jusqu'au klein river lagoon. Dimanche: Stony point puis en fonction du temps (time et weather) une rando dans la Kogelberg nature Reserve ou dans Fernklof nature reserve (qui a l'air moins beau au niveau paysages mais les balades sont plus courtes). Lundi: route vers Franschoek (1 nuit): si tout s'enchaîne bien, rando dans la Jonkershoek NR et visite d'un domaine viticole Mardi: route vers Mountceder Lodge dans le Cederberg (2 nuits). J'ai pensé à la visite des Stadaal caves et elephant painting et peut-être une des balades proposées sur le site ou Maltese cross. Jeudi: direction Hout Bay pour 3 nuits. Dans le désordre: une journée (classique) tour de la péninsule, 1/2 journée jardins de Kirstenbosch, 1/2 jounée Lion's head. Dimanche: vol pour Johanesburg;
Mes questions concernent surtout les possibilités de (petite) randonnée: Quelqu'un en a-t-il déjà fait dans Kogelberg, Fernklof ou Jonkerschoek? Au Mountceder lodge (Michel, si tu me lis ... 😉) quelqu'un a-t-il déjà fait les randonnées (guidées ou pas) proposées par le lodge? Il reste 1/2 journée à occuper quand nous serons à Hout Bay: des idées (pas forcément de rando)?
Enfin, au niveau de la sécurité, diplomatie.gouv (alarmiste mais bon) conseille de randonner en groupe. Est-ce vraiment risqué en plein jour (je ne suis pas sûre qu'un groupe de 2 (femmes) soit vraiment considéré comme un "groupe"...)?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses, idées, remarques etc ...
Le voyage en Afrique du Sud se rapproche (2 mois quand même 😏) et je me replonge dans mon programme: du samedi au dimanche suivant autour du Cap et du dimanche au samedi suivant dans le Kruger.
En ce qui concerne le Cap, l'idée était de ne pas changer tous les jours de logement (on le fera suffisamment pour la 2ème partie) mais de voir quand même des paysages différents. Alors je sais, je rate plein de choses mais il faut bien faire des choix et puis à force, je sais ce que j'aime et surtout ce que je n'aime pas (ou moins) 😉
Ce qui donne donc:
Arrivée samedi à 11h: direction Hermanus (2 nuits). L'idée est a priori de se balader le long du cliff path l'après-midi, éventuellement d'aller en voiture jusqu'au klein river lagoon. Dimanche: Stony point puis en fonction du temps (time et weather) une rando dans la Kogelberg nature Reserve ou dans Fernklof nature reserve (qui a l'air moins beau au niveau paysages mais les balades sont plus courtes). Lundi: route vers Franschoek (1 nuit): si tout s'enchaîne bien, rando dans la Jonkershoek NR et visite d'un domaine viticole Mardi: route vers Mountceder Lodge dans le Cederberg (2 nuits). J'ai pensé à la visite des Stadaal caves et elephant painting et peut-être une des balades proposées sur le site ou Maltese cross. Jeudi: direction Hout Bay pour 3 nuits. Dans le désordre: une journée (classique) tour de la péninsule, 1/2 journée jardins de Kirstenbosch, 1/2 jounée Lion's head. Dimanche: vol pour Johanesburg;
Mes questions concernent surtout les possibilités de (petite) randonnée: Quelqu'un en a-t-il déjà fait dans Kogelberg, Fernklof ou Jonkerschoek? Au Mountceder lodge (Michel, si tu me lis ... 😉) quelqu'un a-t-il déjà fait les randonnées (guidées ou pas) proposées par le lodge? Il reste 1/2 journée à occuper quand nous serons à Hout Bay: des idées (pas forcément de rando)?
Enfin, au niveau de la sécurité, diplomatie.gouv (alarmiste mais bon) conseille de randonner en groupe. Est-ce vraiment risqué en plein jour (je ne suis pas sûre qu'un groupe de 2 (femmes) soit vraiment considéré comme un "groupe"...)?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses, idées, remarques etc ...
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Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!







