D'abord Je souhaite une très bonne année 2008 à tous les voyageurs 😎 😎 Et voilà ce qui m'amène ! Lorsqu'on se fait soigner à l'étranger (hors rapatriement), qui rembourse intégralement (100 %) les soins ? - l'assurance privé que l'on à pris (AVI, AVA, Magellan...) ou est-ce - une partie par la sécurité sociale ainsi que la mutuelle (à hauteur des remboursements français) et la différence par l'assurance privé Merci pour vos réponses A bientôt chelsea
Qui rembourse les soins à l'étranger?
by Chelsea
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous
D'abord Je souhaite une très bonne année 2008 à tous les voyageurs 😎 😎 Et voilà ce qui m'amène ! Lorsqu'on se fait soigner à l'étranger (hors rapatriement), qui rembourse intégralement (100 %) les soins ? - l'assurance privé que l'on à pris (AVI, AVA, Magellan...) ou est-ce - une partie par la sécurité sociale ainsi que la mutuelle (à hauteur des remboursements français) et la différence par l'assurance privé Merci pour vos réponses A bientôt chelsea
D'abord Je souhaite une très bonne année 2008 à tous les voyageurs 😎 😎 Et voilà ce qui m'amène ! Lorsqu'on se fait soigner à l'étranger (hors rapatriement), qui rembourse intégralement (100 %) les soins ? - l'assurance privé que l'on à pris (AVI, AVA, Magellan...) ou est-ce - une partie par la sécurité sociale ainsi que la mutuelle (à hauteur des remboursements français) et la différence par l'assurance privé Merci pour vos réponses A bientôt chelsea
Pendant 2 ans et demi aller à la découverte du pays et des gens dans le cadre d'un Congé Epargne Temps (congé payé)
N'y a til personne qui peut répondre à ma question ?
Car avant de prendre contact avec ma secu et mutuelle, je voudrais savoir comment fonctionnement un remboursement medical
info supplementaire ci celà peux vous aidez, je prévois de partir 2 ans et demi soit aux USA ou alors au Canada
Vos réponses sont importantes pour moi
Merci
Chelsea
Car avant de prendre contact avec ma secu et mutuelle, je voudrais savoir comment fonctionnement un remboursement medical
info supplementaire ci celà peux vous aidez, je prévois de partir 2 ans et demi soit aux USA ou alors au Canada
Vos réponses sont importantes pour moi
Merci
Chelsea
Pendant 2 ans et demi aller à la découverte du pays et des gens dans le cadre d'un Congé Epargne Temps (congé payé)
Lorsque tu es soigné à l'étranger, en dehors de l'Europe et du champ d'application du formulaire E101, il n'est pas possible de se faire rembourser par la CNAM. En fonction de ta mutuelle, tu peux te faire rembourser une partie de ces soins.
Pour les USA, la politique des mutuelles est la suivante : si tu es domicilié en France, et qu'il t'arrive quelque chose de grave là bas, tu seras rapatriée car les USA comme le Japon font partie des pays classés par les assureurs comme étant à très gros risques financiers. Aussi, je doute que si tu résides aux USA, une mutuelle française accepte de couvrir tes frais médicaux... tu devras donc trouver une assurance santé américaine qui seras beaucoup plus cher que ce que tu as l'habitude de payer en France.
Pour les USA, la politique des mutuelles est la suivante : si tu es domicilié en France, et qu'il t'arrive quelque chose de grave là bas, tu seras rapatriée car les USA comme le Japon font partie des pays classés par les assureurs comme étant à très gros risques financiers. Aussi, je doute que si tu résides aux USA, une mutuelle française accepte de couvrir tes frais médicaux... tu devras donc trouver une assurance santé américaine qui seras beaucoup plus cher que ce que tu as l'habitude de payer en France.
Pour le Canada, et plus particulièrement le Québec, la situation est différente car ce pays propose des protections sociales plus comparables à celles que l'on trouve en France. Mais les Québécois du forum pourront te renseigner.
oh oh tu as " abandoné " tes 2 amis Jipi et Tamerlan ...
C est pas sérieux ça
😛
chris06
Bonsoir,
Le formulaire E101 est destiné aux travailleurs détachés, à savoir:
"La notion de détachement est issue de la directive européenne 96/71/CE en vertu laquelle le détachement d’un travailleur vise une situation dans laquelle un travailleur est envoyé par son employeur dans un Etat membre autre que celui où il effectue habituellement ses prestations de travail. Cela présuppose le maintien de la relation de travail entre l’employeur et le travailleur détaché pendant toute la période du détachement. L’entreprise qui détache ses travailleurs dans un autre Etat membre est tenue de respecter un ensemble de règles impératives minimales du pays d’accueil."
Je ne pense pas que cela soit le cas de Chelsea, ou me trompé-je ?
Danielle
Le formulaire E101 est destiné aux travailleurs détachés, à savoir:
"La notion de détachement est issue de la directive européenne 96/71/CE en vertu laquelle le détachement d’un travailleur vise une situation dans laquelle un travailleur est envoyé par son employeur dans un Etat membre autre que celui où il effectue habituellement ses prestations de travail. Cela présuppose le maintien de la relation de travail entre l’employeur et le travailleur détaché pendant toute la période du détachement. L’entreprise qui détache ses travailleurs dans un autre Etat membre est tenue de respecter un ensemble de règles impératives minimales du pays d’accueil."
Je ne pense pas que cela soit le cas de Chelsea, ou me trompé-je ?
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Bonsoir,
Je ne pense pas que cela soit le cas de Chelsea, ou me trompé-je ?
Danielle
Bonjour Danielle
Non tu ne te trompe pas tu as raison, puisque mon statut pendant 30 mois sera uniquement et seulement touriste/vacancière et non expatriée ou détachée
se qui revient à ma première question, quels que soient les soins.
Est-ce que la sécurité sociale et mutuelle ont-elles un rôle à jouer dans les remboursements des soins lorsqu'on est à l'étranger ?
Je pose cette question suite à la réponse que ma fait l'un des responsables de la securité sociale à laquelle je suis affiliée et qui dit que je dois cotiser à la CFE pour etre rembourser de mes soins (part sécurité sociale uniquement)
Sauf que je reste spetique sur sa réponse, personnellement je pense que non, car ce projet je le fait dans le cadre de mon Congé Epargne Temps, ce congé étant assimilé à une période de travail, je percevrais durant mon CET mon salaire, mon ancienneté, mes CA...et je continurais à cotiser à la securité sociale à laquelle je suis affiliée aujourd'hui.
A Bientôt
Chelsea
Je ne pense pas que cela soit le cas de Chelsea, ou me trompé-je ?
Danielle
Bonjour Danielle
Non tu ne te trompe pas tu as raison, puisque mon statut pendant 30 mois sera uniquement et seulement touriste/vacancière et non expatriée ou détachée
se qui revient à ma première question, quels que soient les soins.
Est-ce que la sécurité sociale et mutuelle ont-elles un rôle à jouer dans les remboursements des soins lorsqu'on est à l'étranger ?
Je pose cette question suite à la réponse que ma fait l'un des responsables de la securité sociale à laquelle je suis affiliée et qui dit que je dois cotiser à la CFE pour etre rembourser de mes soins (part sécurité sociale uniquement)
Sauf que je reste spetique sur sa réponse, personnellement je pense que non, car ce projet je le fait dans le cadre de mon Congé Epargne Temps, ce congé étant assimilé à une période de travail, je percevrais durant mon CET mon salaire, mon ancienneté, mes CA...et je continurais à cotiser à la securité sociale à laquelle je suis affiliée aujourd'hui.
A Bientôt
Chelsea
Pendant 2 ans et demi aller à la découverte du pays et des gens dans le cadre d'un Congé Epargne Temps (congé payé)
Est-ce que la sécurité sociale et mutuelle ont-elles un rôle à jouer dans les remboursements des soins lorsqu'on est à l'étranger ?
... sur la base d'une expérience vécue personnellement, je réponds oui : j'étais touriste au Népal et super couvert par une assurance genre Europ Assistance
... les soins sur place et autres dépenses de rapatriement ont été pris en charge par mon assurance ... à mon retour en France, muni des pièces justificatives des frais engagés sur place, j'ai présenté mon dossier à la CPAM de mon domicile (qui dispose d'un service affecté à la prise en charge des soins effectués à l'étranger) ... qui m'a ensuite normalement remboursé de la partie des soins qui lui incombe ... ne disposant provisoirement d'aucune mutuelle au moment des soins, j'ai reversé intégralement à mon assurance le remboursement reçu de la CPAM
2°) la CFE (Caisse des Français à l'Etranger) est l'équivalent de la sécurité sociale pour les salariés français travaillant à l'étranger avec le statut d'expatrié (et non pas détaché) ... ce qui ne sera pas ton cas puisque dans le cadre de ton CET, tu conserveras ta couverture sociale "française" ...
... sur la base d'une expérience vécue personnellement, je réponds oui : j'étais touriste au Népal et super couvert par une assurance genre Europ Assistance
... les soins sur place et autres dépenses de rapatriement ont été pris en charge par mon assurance ... à mon retour en France, muni des pièces justificatives des frais engagés sur place, j'ai présenté mon dossier à la CPAM de mon domicile (qui dispose d'un service affecté à la prise en charge des soins effectués à l'étranger) ... qui m'a ensuite normalement remboursé de la partie des soins qui lui incombe ... ne disposant provisoirement d'aucune mutuelle au moment des soins, j'ai reversé intégralement à mon assurance le remboursement reçu de la CPAM
2°) la CFE (Caisse des Français à l'Etranger) est l'équivalent de la sécurité sociale pour les salariés français travaillant à l'étranger avec le statut d'expatrié (et non pas détaché) ... ce qui ne sera pas ton cas puisque dans le cadre de ton CET, tu conserveras ta couverture sociale "française" ...
Bonjour,
Je sais que ca fait un bail ce sujet de discussion mais je voudrais te demander combien de temps la sécurité sociale a pris pour te rembourser les frais médicaux dépensé au Népal. Je fais les démarches y'a plus de 8 mois et pas de news de la sécu.
Merci d'avance
Aurore
Je sais que ca fait un bail ce sujet de discussion mais je voudrais te demander combien de temps la sécurité sociale a pris pour te rembourser les frais médicaux dépensé au Népal. Je fais les démarches y'a plus de 8 mois et pas de news de la sécu.
Merci d'avance
Aurore
... la mémoire me fait défaut, mais je ne pense pas que le délai de remboursement ait excédé le délai habituel de traitement d'une demande classique ...
... par prudence, et parce que je ne suis pas ce genre d'opérations de très près, je dirais qu'en moins de deux mois, le dossier était bouclé !
... quoi qu'il en soit réellement, un délai de huit mois me semble très anormal ! 😕
... j'espère que tu avais conservé un double de ton dossier et te conseille de prendre contact avec une personne chargée de ce genre d'opérations (prise en charge de dépenses de santé effectuées à l'étranger)
... par prudence, et parce que je ne suis pas ce genre d'opérations de très près, je dirais qu'en moins de deux mois, le dossier était bouclé !
... quoi qu'il en soit réellement, un délai de huit mois me semble très anormal ! 😕
... j'espère que tu avais conservé un double de ton dossier et te conseille de prendre contact avec une personne chargée de ce genre d'opérations (prise en charge de dépenses de santé effectuées à l'étranger)
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Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!