Randonnée au Népal: tour des Annapurna, Manaslu ou autre?
by Medaral
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je n'irai qu'une seule fois au Népal (à moins que...) ; aussi d'emblée, je souhaiterai faire le plus beau circuit. Vous allez me dire, tous sont beaux, mais quand même...on lit par exemple que le tour des Annapurnas n'est plus ce qu'il était à cause de la nouvelle piste et de la fréquentation trop importante...on lit aussi que le tour du Manaslu a beaucoup d'atouts...on lit que les habitants locaux ont une attitude différente par rapport à la fréquentation plus ou moins importante des touristes d'un tour à l'autre...etc
Je suis bon marcheur, ne craint pas l'altitude et aime plutôt les grands espaces et les paysages de montagne plutôt que les gorges ou vallées profondes...Donc avant de régler tous les détails, il faut au départ choisir son circuit.
Je suis certain qu'un bon nombre d'entre vous a fait plusieurs circuits au Népal. Et bien que chacun présente des avantages et des inconvénients il serait peut-être possible de les classer...aussi ma question : Si vous devez aller une seule fois au népal quel circuit feriez-vous ???
Merci, à ce sujet, de me faire partager votre expérence.
je te conseille l'everest couplé avec gokyo depuis Jiri. oublie l'annapurna à cause de la route, le tour de l'annapurna est mort, on ne parle plus de trek. le Langtang est joli mais moins impressionnant et trop court. pour les autres treks tu devras faire avec une agence et/ou payer des permis exorbitants.
va voir mon site, t'aura des infos sur l'everest
http://boitasapin.wix.com/montagne#!khumbu-main/galleryPage
va voir mon site, t'aura des infos sur l'everest
http://boitasapin.wix.com/montagne#!khumbu-main/galleryPage
Bonjour Alain,
Si tu es bon marcheur, en bonne forme ne dis pas que tu n'iras qu'une seule fois.....Prévois le budget du prochain.....Si tu veux un trek d'altitude, encore bien préservé, alors oui le Manaslu est l'un des mieux à faire. Certains te diront va voir l'Everest ou les annapurnas, et c'est vrai qu'ils valent le détour mais ce sera au détriment d'un circuit plus " humain" et dépaysant. Après 12 voyages dans ce beau pays c'est le Manaslu que j'ai préféré. A toi de voir.
Bon trek
Si tu es bon marcheur, en bonne forme ne dis pas que tu n'iras qu'une seule fois.....Prévois le budget du prochain.....Si tu veux un trek d'altitude, encore bien préservé, alors oui le Manaslu est l'un des mieux à faire. Certains te diront va voir l'Everest ou les annapurnas, et c'est vrai qu'ils valent le détour mais ce sera au détriment d'un circuit plus " humain" et dépaysant. Après 12 voyages dans ce beau pays c'est le Manaslu que j'ai préféré. A toi de voir.
Bon trek
Sathi
Le <Manaslu est bien mais beaucoup plus cher car oblige de passer par une agence. Si tu veux randonner seul; oui vers l'Everest et/ou Gokyo en partant de Jiri Shivalaya.
Perso, je n'ai fais que le trek des Annapurnas, et je ne pourrai donc pas comparer avec les autres.
Je trouve que c'est n'importe quoi de dire que ce trek est pourri, et que çà ne sert à rien de le faire!
Certes, la 2ème partie du trek (Jomsom <-> Tadopani) n'est plus intéressante du fait de la route (quoi que pas mal de side trip alternatifs se sont créés récemment), certes sur la 1ère partie (Besi Sahar <-> Manang), une "route carossable" existe entre Besi Sahar et Syange, et on voit de ci de là quelques travaux. MAIS, malgré ces quelques défauts, le trek notamment sa 1ère partie reste un des plus beaux treks au monde, par la diversité et la splendeur des paysages que tu vois. Durant les 5 premiers jours avant Manang, on pouvait marcher 2 ou 3 heures sans croiser personne! Les jeep?? On en a quasiment jamais vu! A partir de Manang, oui il y a un peu de monde, mais c'est bon quoi, on est pas non plus au mont st michel!
Faut donc arrêter les conneries en disant que ce trek est fini!!
Moi je vais faire l'Everest en novembre héhé ;)
Pour ce qui est du Manaslu, dont on est passé pas loi, il a l'air chouette, mais aux dernières nouvelles, il coûte très cher à faire car nécessite un permis spécifique (comme le Mustang et d'autres régions)
Je trouve que c'est n'importe quoi de dire que ce trek est pourri, et que çà ne sert à rien de le faire!
Certes, la 2ème partie du trek (Jomsom <-> Tadopani) n'est plus intéressante du fait de la route (quoi que pas mal de side trip alternatifs se sont créés récemment), certes sur la 1ère partie (Besi Sahar <-> Manang), une "route carossable" existe entre Besi Sahar et Syange, et on voit de ci de là quelques travaux. MAIS, malgré ces quelques défauts, le trek notamment sa 1ère partie reste un des plus beaux treks au monde, par la diversité et la splendeur des paysages que tu vois. Durant les 5 premiers jours avant Manang, on pouvait marcher 2 ou 3 heures sans croiser personne! Les jeep?? On en a quasiment jamais vu! A partir de Manang, oui il y a un peu de monde, mais c'est bon quoi, on est pas non plus au mont st michel!
Faut donc arrêter les conneries en disant que ce trek est fini!!
Moi je vais faire l'Everest en novembre héhé ;)
Pour ce qui est du Manaslu, dont on est passé pas loi, il a l'air chouette, mais aux dernières nouvelles, il coûte très cher à faire car nécessite un permis spécifique (comme le Mustang et d'autres régions)
Bonjour à tous,
Un grand merci pour vos points de vue...à vous lire on voit bien que vous êtes tous des passionnés, et c'est une bonne chose !
L'idéal, bien sur, serait de faire tous ces circuits...
Difficile de choisir...mais en tout cas, aucun n'est rejeté par vous tous...
D'ici novembre j'ai encore bien le temps de faire un choix.
A+
Je suis bon marcheur, ne craint pas l'altitude et aime plutôt les grands espaces et les paysages de montagne plutôt que les gorges ou vallées profondes...Donc avant de régler tous les détails, il faut au départ choisir son circuit.
Alors je te conseillerais le camp de base de l'Everest. Par les hauts cols plutôt que par le chemin classique. C'est un peu plus long, plus beau, plus dur et li y a vraiment pas grand monde! Tu n'as que quelques jours (4/10 environs) a partager avec le circuit classique et sa forte fréquentation. Et le mieux c'est de commencer par Jiri ou Shivalaya dans les vallées pour avoir un trek complet. Y'a personne, c'est beau, c'est dur, c'est génial. Et y'a des lodges.
Les Annapurnas, ça reste très beau (en tout cas moi, j'ai adoré), malgré les évidents défauts qu'on entends ici ou la et c'est très diversifié au niveau des paysages. Mais ça fait moins haute montagne...
Quant au Manaslu je ne sais pas, mais tout le monde en dit du bien. En ce qui me concerne, c'est pour la prochaine fois😉
Alors je te conseillerais le camp de base de l'Everest. Par les hauts cols plutôt que par le chemin classique. C'est un peu plus long, plus beau, plus dur et li y a vraiment pas grand monde! Tu n'as que quelques jours (4/10 environs) a partager avec le circuit classique et sa forte fréquentation. Et le mieux c'est de commencer par Jiri ou Shivalaya dans les vallées pour avoir un trek complet. Y'a personne, c'est beau, c'est dur, c'est génial. Et y'a des lodges.
Les Annapurnas, ça reste très beau (en tout cas moi, j'ai adoré), malgré les évidents défauts qu'on entends ici ou la et c'est très diversifié au niveau des paysages. Mais ça fait moins haute montagne...
Quant au Manaslu je ne sais pas, mais tout le monde en dit du bien. En ce qui me concerne, c'est pour la prochaine fois😉
Et si je peux compléter sur le trek des Annapurnas, son avantage indéniable par rapport à d'autres et surtout celui de l'Everest, c'est la gestion de l'altitude..
Quand pour l'Everest tu pars de Lukhla (sauf si tu fais la partie de Jiri) qui est déjà à 3000m, et que tu te rends en 2j au dessus de 4000m pour y rester 5 à 7 nuits ensuite, le trek des Annapurnas lui, tu pars de Besi Sahar qui est à 800m pour monter progressivement.
Le risque de MAM est donc plus présent sur le trek de l'Everest, à moins que tu ai vraiment du temps et que tu puisses faire l'approche par Jiri et faire une journée d'acclimatation tous les 2 jours à partir de Lukhla, et encore, çà ne le résout pas!
Quand pour l'Everest tu pars de Lukhla (sauf si tu fais la partie de Jiri) qui est déjà à 3000m, et que tu te rends en 2j au dessus de 4000m pour y rester 5 à 7 nuits ensuite, le trek des Annapurnas lui, tu pars de Besi Sahar qui est à 800m pour monter progressivement.
Le risque de MAM est donc plus présent sur le trek de l'Everest, à moins que tu ai vraiment du temps et que tu puisses faire l'approche par Jiri et faire une journée d'acclimatation tous les 2 jours à partir de Lukhla, et encore, çà ne le résout pas!
Bonjour Alain
1) Mustang, peut-être le dernière chance car ils ont commencé la construction d'une piste là aussi...
C'est un peu cher à cause du permis spécial de 500 dollars pour 10 jours, mais ça vaut la peine... La période idéale est en août (pas de pluie ici!) Possibilité de retourner vers Muktinath et de faire une partie du circuit d'Annapurna
2) Manaslu mais pas sans Tsum Valley je dirais, plus authentique (et plus beau?) encore. J'ai fait le tout en octobre dernier en 22 jours, 7 jours pour Tsum inclus, en partant d'Arughat.
Jean-Pierre
JP
Je suis bon marcheur, ne craint pas l'altitude et aime plutôt les grands espaces et les paysages de montagne plutôt que les gorges ou vallées profondes...Donc avant de régler tous les détails, il faut au départ choisir son circuit.
Je suis certain qu'un bon nombre d'entre vous a fait plusieurs circuits au Népal. Et bien que chacun présente des avantages et des inconvénients il serait peut-être possible de les classer...aussi ma question : Si vous devez aller une seule fois au népal quel circuit feriez-vous ???
Merci, à ce sujet, de me faire partager votre expérence.
Salut,
Si tu privilégies la haute montages ses paysages grandioses les hauts sommets les glaciers étincelants etc.. Ta destination c'est le Khumbu les lacs de Gokyo et la poursuite le long du de la moraine du Glacier Gozumba..?( je ne me souviens plus du nom) jusqu'au 4 ieme ou cinquième lac.. Le camp de base du Lhotse ou de l'island peak etc.. etc..
Si tu privilégies les traditions , la culture , les villages médiévaux in changés.. le Népal ancestral, celui des années 60-70.. Va au Langtang et fais le Tamang heritage trail.. Et si tu as les moyens et du temps va au Dolpo!!! Ou plus facile : Au Mustang ( nord) Le mustang étant une division administrative où le sud n'est pas règlementé mais le nord après Kagbéni est soumis à un permis de 500 dollars...
Salut,
Si tu privilégies la haute montages ses paysages grandioses les hauts sommets les glaciers étincelants etc.. Ta destination c'est le Khumbu les lacs de Gokyo et la poursuite le long du de la moraine du Glacier Gozumba..?( je ne me souviens plus du nom) jusqu'au 4 ieme ou cinquième lac.. Le camp de base du Lhotse ou de l'island peak etc.. etc..
Si tu privilégies les traditions , la culture , les villages médiévaux in changés.. le Népal ancestral, celui des années 60-70.. Va au Langtang et fais le Tamang heritage trail.. Et si tu as les moyens et du temps va au Dolpo!!! Ou plus facile : Au Mustang ( nord) Le mustang étant une division administrative où le sud n'est pas règlementé mais le nord après Kagbéni est soumis à un permis de 500 dollars...
Le Langtang est joli mais moins impressionnant et trop court.
Si tu commences dans l'Helambu que tu y ajoutes le Tamang trail et qu'une fois à Khyangin Gompa tu franchis le Ganja la ( suffisamment impressionnant!) vers Tarkhekiang tu peux faire un trek d'une vingtaine de jours.
Si tu commences dans l'Helambu que tu y ajoutes le Tamang trail et qu'une fois à Khyangin Gompa tu franchis le Ganja la ( suffisamment impressionnant!) vers Tarkhekiang tu peux faire un trek d'une vingtaine de jours.
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I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra




