Randonnées à la journée dans le parc des Ecrins
by Vignemale
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je cherche des idées de belles randos à faire à la journée dans le Parc des Ecrins, idéalement au départ de Briançon/Le Monetier/Col du Lautaret. J'ai pensé au Grand Galibier, au Lac d'Arsine par ex.
Mais j'aimerais aussi éviter des itinéraires en aller/retour, je préfère les boucles (c'est peut être un peu trop demander).
C'est pour début septembre.
Dénivelé positif maximum 1800m/jour, 10 heures de marche.
Qui peut me conseiller ?
Merci beaucoup
Il y a la vallée de la Clarée près de Briançon.
Nous nous y sommes rendus en voiture.
Nous n'avons pas fait de sentier car il pleuvait.
C'est très beau.
En juin les sommets étaient enneigés.
Nous nous y sommes rendus en voiture.
Nous n'avons pas fait de sentier car il pleuvait.
C'est très beau.
En juin les sommets étaient enneigés.
bonjour
quelques idées de rando dans le coin: le lac du combeynot en aller et retour ça vaut le coup d’œil.
il y a également depuis le pont de l'Alpes le grand lac en boucle le col du chardonnet superbe vue sur les Ecrins en A/R ou continuer sur le col de la ponsonière et revenir vers l 'Alpes du lauzet .
effectivement le col d'arsine en revenant sur le casset mais il faut deux voitures.
il y a également au col du Granon le Grand Aréa en allant jusqu'au col de buffère lac de l'oules , lac de cristol en passant par le refuge de Buffère.
voilà bonne rando chrystelle
quelques idées de rando dans le coin: le lac du combeynot en aller et retour ça vaut le coup d’œil.
il y a également depuis le pont de l'Alpes le grand lac en boucle le col du chardonnet superbe vue sur les Ecrins en A/R ou continuer sur le col de la ponsonière et revenir vers l 'Alpes du lauzet .
effectivement le col d'arsine en revenant sur le casset mais il faut deux voitures.
il y a également au col du Granon le Grand Aréa en allant jusqu'au col de buffère lac de l'oules , lac de cristol en passant par le refuge de Buffère.
voilà bonne rando chrystelle
Bonjour,
En complément des suggestions précédentes, voici quelques idées de randonnées à la journée dans la vallée de la Vallouise: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/ecrins
ou également à partir de La Grave: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/oisans-1
En complément des suggestions précédentes, voici quelques idées de randonnées à la journée dans la vallée de la Vallouise: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/ecrins
ou également à partir de La Grave: https://sites.google.com/site/carnetsditinerance/escapades/alpes/oisans-1
Salut,
Je te conseille la vallée du Vallgaudemar... tu vas en voiture jusqu'au chalet refuge du Gioberney.. ( c'est goudronné jusqu'au bout!) tu laisses ta voiture sur le parking du chalet refuge et de là tu peux faire le circuit suivant: montée au refuge de Valonpierre puis aller ensuite au refuge de Chabournéou et redescendre sur le Gioberney.. ( entre 6 et 7 heures de marche)ou encore aller au refuge du pigeonnier par les lacs du Lauzon et redescendre par la cabane du Vacivier.. Il y a des tas d'autres possibilités de circuit au départ de la Chapelle en Valgaudemar ou de Villar loubière.. ( refuge des souffles vers le refuge de l'Olan , par le pas de l'Olan etc..
Le Valgaudemar ( une petite vallée "Himalayenne") est mon coin préféré dans les écrins!! http://valgaudemar.free.fr/randonnee_gioberney.htm
Le Valgaudemar ( une petite vallée "Himalayenne") est mon coin préféré dans les écrins!! http://valgaudemar.free.fr/randonnee_gioberney.htm
Depuis Pont de L'alpe (route entre Briancon et Lautaret), tu as en effet le Grand Lac.
Mais pour une boucle de 10h, c'est carrément soft. PAr contre, l'endroit est magnifique si tu aimes les alpages verts, et les pics rocheux, et les lacs.
Donc tu montes au Grand Lac par le petit col escarpé qu'on voit à gauche du premier plateau et qui mène direct au Grand Lac. Tu passes le Grand Lac, et atteints le col Ponsonniere en face qui mène au très beau site du lac des Cerces (superbe endroit de bivouac au passage). Si ca tient dans ton timing, descends-y, ça vaut le coup.
Pour le retour, tu reviens au Ponsonnniere et tu prends l'ancien GR qui par rejoindre les roches de Beraude et ensuite le col du Chardonnet (autre vue derrière).
Cet ancien GR est un peu pierrier parfois, mais tu as une vue sur le Grand Lac et ton trajet aller, avec derrière les pics et glaciers des écrins.
Tu redescends ce col et retombe ensuite aux maisons Pont de l'Alpe.
A tester !
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
http://www.namast.com/
Bonjour Vignemale.
Pour une belle boucle de 10h à partir du Pont de l'Alpe, tu peux faire la Pointe des Cerces en traversée sud-nord, c'est-à-dire: - montée par le Rif Lanterne au col de l'Aiguillette puis au col du Chardonnet - GR57du col du Chardonnet jusqu'en dessous de la Roche des Béraude - passage du col des Béraudes (on quitte le GR) puis Lac Sorcier - du Lac Sorcier, montée au plus facile par les éboulis de la face sud jusqu'à l'arête sommitale puis sur le fil de l'arête (pas long mais très aérien) jusqu'au sommet de la pointe des Cerces. - redescente par la voie "normale" de la face nord (beaucoup plus facile que la face sud) jusqu'au col des Cerces où on rejoint le GR57. - retour (sur sentier) par le lac des Cerces, le Col de la Ponsonnière et l'Alpe du Lauzet.
C'est un itinéraire de rando un peu engagé (la montée dans les éboulis est raide), où il ne faut pas avoir le vertige sur l'arête sommitale et le dénivelé cumulé fait sans doute un peu plus de 1800m (dans les 2000 je dirais), mais je l'avais fait en 10h30, pause déjeuner comprise, il y a quelques années. Donc cela me parait rentrer tout à fait dans tes critères, Vignemale. En plus, tu fais un sommet à plus de 3000m avec une belle vue sur le massif des Ecrins et les superbes paysages décrits par Namast (tu peux passer par le Grand Lac, ce que je n'avais pas fait car l'orage m'était tombé dessus en redescendant du col de la Ponsonnière).
Bonne rando. P'tit' étoile.
Pour une belle boucle de 10h à partir du Pont de l'Alpe, tu peux faire la Pointe des Cerces en traversée sud-nord, c'est-à-dire: - montée par le Rif Lanterne au col de l'Aiguillette puis au col du Chardonnet - GR57du col du Chardonnet jusqu'en dessous de la Roche des Béraude - passage du col des Béraudes (on quitte le GR) puis Lac Sorcier - du Lac Sorcier, montée au plus facile par les éboulis de la face sud jusqu'à l'arête sommitale puis sur le fil de l'arête (pas long mais très aérien) jusqu'au sommet de la pointe des Cerces. - redescente par la voie "normale" de la face nord (beaucoup plus facile que la face sud) jusqu'au col des Cerces où on rejoint le GR57. - retour (sur sentier) par le lac des Cerces, le Col de la Ponsonnière et l'Alpe du Lauzet.
C'est un itinéraire de rando un peu engagé (la montée dans les éboulis est raide), où il ne faut pas avoir le vertige sur l'arête sommitale et le dénivelé cumulé fait sans doute un peu plus de 1800m (dans les 2000 je dirais), mais je l'avais fait en 10h30, pause déjeuner comprise, il y a quelques années. Donc cela me parait rentrer tout à fait dans tes critères, Vignemale. En plus, tu fais un sommet à plus de 3000m avec une belle vue sur le massif des Ecrins et les superbes paysages décrits par Namast (tu peux passer par le Grand Lac, ce que je n'avais pas fait car l'orage m'était tombé dessus en redescendant du col de la Ponsonnière).
Bonne rando. P'tit' étoile.
Comme ça, il a de quoi faire en sentier only ou hors sentier sur crêtes et pic 😉
Attention au GR57 entre Ponsonniere et Chardonnet. Sur les anciennes cartes, c'est bien marqué GR57, mais sur les nouvelles, ce n'est plus le GR57. Le GR passe maintenant par le bas, un peu au dessus du Grand Lac.
Du coup sur le terrain, au col Ponsonnière, l'ancien GR57 est barré par une croix, et le GRiste est entraîné dans le bas comme sur les cartes récentes (avec en prime une méga remontée au col de Chardonnet). Z'ont dû juger que l'ancien GR57 était un peu trop exposé dans la pieraille...
Je dis ça, parce qu'équipés avec une ancienne carte, on se serait posé bien des questions cet été, si le gars du camping de Névache-Foncouvert ne nous avait pas averti.
Je dis ça, parce qu'équipés avec une ancienne carte, on se serait posé bien des questions cet été, si le gars du camping de Névache-Foncouvert ne nous avait pas averti.
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
http://www.namast.com/
Puisqu'on en est aux possibilités à partir du Pont de l'Alpe, pourquoi ne pas envisager la via ferrata de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet.
Départ du parking du Pont de l'Alpe, montée à pied en 1 h maxi sur le sentier en direction du col du Chardonnet jusqu'au départ de la via ferrata. Celle-ci est parmi les plus faciles du coin et a l'avantage d'évoluer dans un très beau cadre de montagne, sans être gâchée par une trop grande abondance d'équipements artificiels.
Durée de la via de l'ordre de 3 à 4 heures, avec un débouché au sommet de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet à 2611m. Du sommet, superbe panorama sur la montagne des Agneaux, la Barre des Ecrins, le Pelvoux, etc ...
Retour par le sentier partant du sommet en 1 heure environ jusqu'au point de départ.
Outre l'aspect ludique de la via ferrata, c'est par ailleurs un endroit truffé de bouquetins ! A entreprendre néanmoins avec l'équipement standard pour les via ferrata (baudier, 2 dégaines, casque) qu'on peut louer dans tous les magasins de sport, mais qui ne présente vraiment pas de difficulté ni de passage sur vide, et qui permet de changer un peu de la randonnée classique.
Outre l'aspect ludique de la via ferrata, c'est par ailleurs un endroit truffé de bouquetins ! A entreprendre néanmoins avec l'équipement standard pour les via ferrata (baudier, 2 dégaines, casque) qu'on peut louer dans tous les magasins de sport, mais qui ne présente vraiment pas de difficulté ni de passage sur vide, et qui permet de changer un peu de la randonnée classique.
Super toutes ces idées, merci tout le monde ! Je liste et je me fais les topos au fur et à mesure, je verrai sur place ensuite en fonction de la météo. Sauf le Vagaudemar qui me parait loin, il vaudra mieux y revenir un jour pour explorer ce côté là !
La boucle avec un sommet à 3000 est top ! D'autres propositions dans ce genre ?
Effectivement quand je parlais du GR57, c'est le tracé qu'il y avait à l'époque où j'ai fait cette randonnée et tel qu'il figure sur ma carte, qui est assez ancienne (fin des années 90), et qui passe donc par le haut (entre 2500 et 2600m) entre le col du Chardonnet et le bas de la Roche des Béraudes. L'itinéraire du bas (que j'avais pris au retour à partir du Col de la Ponsonnière) est un sentier figurant en tirets rouges sur ma carte.
Et pour les bouquetins, la montée au col de l'Aiguillette par le Rif Lanterne (donc en contournant l'Aiguillette par l'Est) permet d'en voir facilement. Il est aussi possible de faire un petit détour par le sommet de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet.
P'tit' étoile.
Et pour les bouquetins, la montée au col de l'Aiguillette par le Rif Lanterne (donc en contournant l'Aiguillette par l'Est) permet d'en voir facilement. Il est aussi possible de faire un petit détour par le sommet de l'Aiguillette du Lauzet.
P'tit' étoile.
Sauf le Vagaudemar qui me parait loin, il vaudra mieux y revenir un jour pour explorer ce côté là !
La boucle avec un sommet à 3000 est top ! D'autres propositions dans ce genre ?
Dommage ...c'est pour moi le plus beau coin des écrins! De plus le beau temps est plus probable dans la partie sud des écrins...
Un sommet facile à 3000m : le pic Turbat. Départ Villar Loubière montée au refuge des souffles et continuer direction refuge de l'Olan avec un crochet au pic Turbat ( facile) et retour par le pas de l'Olan puis le refuge de l'Olan et descente sur la Chapelle en Valgaudemar.
Dommage ...c'est pour moi le plus beau coin des écrins! De plus le beau temps est plus probable dans la partie sud des écrins...
Un sommet facile à 3000m : le pic Turbat. Départ Villar Loubière montée au refuge des souffles et continuer direction refuge de l'Olan avec un crochet au pic Turbat ( facile) et retour par le pas de l'Olan puis le refuge de l'Olan et descente sur la Chapelle en Valgaudemar.
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Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi everyone!
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada