Bonjour, le Lonely indique que cette région est super belle et paisible, mais qu'elle est un peu dépassée par son "succés". Le guide date d'il ya 2 ans, est ce toujours vrai, ou même pire?
Est ce "TRES" touristique, ou pas beaucoup plus qu'ailleurs?
Que pensez vous de ce coin??
Merci
Pourquoi l'homme construit il plus de murs que de ponts?
Pour Pai je ne m'y suis arrété qu'une heure en Décembre pour manger et j'ai continué mon chemin sur Mae Hong Son donc je ne pourrai te dire si la région est belle ou non.
Si tu aimes les têtes couvertes de Dreadlocks et les percing ainsi que les restaux ne servant que de la nourriture occidental avec de la musique techno tu peux y trouver ton bonheur.......
Une heure passé a Pai (pas loin de la rue du marché) et je n'ai jamais vu autant de Junkies de toute ma vie.
Mais bon comme je l'ai dit je ni suis resté qu'une heure ........... juste assé longtemp pour me dire qu'il était temps de partir dans un endroit plus sympa.
Mais comme on dit: les goûts et les couleurs........
Kun Thuan t'as bien resume la situation, je te donnerai juste quelques infos de plus par ici: PAI 😉
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Il n'y a pas que Pai et Mae Hong Son... Les petits villages recellent souvent des p'tits hotels ou guest house qui ne sont dans aucun guide...
C'est tellement agréable de les découvrir par soi même, ou par le bouche à oreille une fois sur place... 🙂
Fainéanter dans un monde neuf est la plus absorbante des occupations... (N.Bouvier)
Bien d'accord. Mais Mae hong Song est pas mal non (pour un voyage court) ??? Paysages extremement jolis, ambiance vraiment Thai, etc... J'aime bien cette region.😉😉😉
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Il n'y a pas que Pai et Mae Hong Son... Les petits villages recellent souvent des p'tits hotels ou guest house qui ne sont dans aucun guide...
C'est tellement agréable de les découvrir par soi même, ou par le bouche à oreille une fois sur place... 🙂
juste, , pai est simplement le tremplin pour plonger dans la coin, , ce n'est pas le but, ,
desjunkess je n'en ait pas vu, , mais possible que ces oiseaux migrateurs soit passer avant ou après, ,
oui il y a des moustiques, , pourquoi??
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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j y suis passé début juillet nous avons fais le tour depuis chiang mai en passant par mae hong son nous n y sommes restés que 2 jours certes ce n etait pas la haute saison mais il y avait peu de monde effectivement quelques junkies mais bon ce ne sont pas les plus chiants bien au contraire région tres sympa nous avions loué des vélos de tres belles balades a faire
toutefois rien d exceptionnel a voir ....
bonnes vacances
la vie est courte profitons de chaque instant qui passe.......
C'est bien exact.
PAI est en pleine sur-explosion, les prix y grimpent à une allure vertigineuse (terrain - immobilier prix x 10 en 3-4 ans) - reconversion massive de maisons en guesthouses avec pour conséquence abandon de rizières... car les gens y gagnent plus.
De plus en plus de 'Resorts' dont certains ne sont pas gênés de demander plus de 6.000 baths la nuit.
La liaison par avion entre Chiang Mai et Pai est ouverte, mais au prix demandé cela fera probablement "flop". A trop vouloir gagner ....
Depuis quelques mois il y a même un night market, c'est tout dire.
Si tu aimes les têtes couvertes de Dreadlocks et les percing ainsi que les restaux ne servant que de la nourriture occidental avec de la musique techno tu peux y trouver ton bonheur.......
Exact aussi, c'est devenu l'endroit à la mode pour les jeunes (tant étrangers que thaïs) et il faut bien admettre que cela a complètement modifié PAI.
Pour ceux qui veulent y aller et vivre ce qui y reste encore de paisible ... faut pas trainer, d'ici un an ou deux cela sera "foutu".
PAR CONTRE, la nature y reste bien entendu superbe, avec des ballades, du vélo, moto, treks ... tout aussi superbes.
Conclusion : pour la ville "Non"
Pour la nature "Super Oui"
J'AI OUBLIE DE DIRE et donc je rajoute :
Il y a même des bouchons dans la ville et par moment, lors des affluences comme en fin d'année, il est impossible de circuler au point qu'un contournement est actuellement en construction (un 4 voies en plus !!!!)
J'y suis allée il y a plus de 2 ans, et il y a 3mois... C'est vrai, ca a changé...
On y retrouve l'ambiance baba cool, et oui, des junkies y "reviennnent" car il ne faut pas oublier de dire que pendant des lustres c'et ici que certains venaient pendant des mois se mettre la tete à l'envers... Proximité brimane, yaba, opium, rabla.. tout y passait, et certains s'y sont carrement endormi.
Cependant j'adore cette ptite ville, bien qu'avant ca n'etait qu'un village. Malgres toute la faune migratoire comme la dit Thuan, on y vit pour pas cher... 200 baths la nuit, un repas gargantuesque chez Dang pour meme pas 3 euros à 2!
Et surtout beaucoup de gentillesse... C'est une mentalité a part Pai, j'aime, et j'espere que cette satanée liaison aeropotuaire ne va pas detruire ce qu'il reste... Parrait selon certains que ce serait le prochain lieu pour les full moon... Faut dire qu'a Pai on fait la teuf.... dans des waterfall parfois!
Mais oui... n'y allait pas, c'est nase!
p.s: pas fan des physiques asiat, pai est l'endroit ou les thais sont les plus beaux 😇
C'était une petite localité provinciale super avec un charme fou. C'est plus le cas en fait.
Dommage car même l'ambiance d'avant a déjà disparue.
Et la modernisation (élargissement entre autre) de la route PAI - MAE HONG SON, ne va rien arranger.
Mais si on considère PAI comme un point de simple logement pour partir dans la nature tout autour alors là cela tient encore bien la route pour le moment
Ah la la ! Tout fout le camp ! Avant c'etait mieux ! C'etait le bon temps ! PFFFFFFFFFF 😇 Quelle misere ces pays qui ne veulent garder leurs petites maisons en bois, leurs petits coins sauvages ou l'on puissent s'eclater ! Ils cherchent tous a se developper, a se moderniser... c'est terrible ca !
( Ben oui, moi aussi j'ai connu Pai avant ! Faire la ballade a moto : Chiang Mai- Mae sae- Pai -Soppong -Mai hong song-Mae Sariang et retout sans rater le Doi Ithanon, le sommet de la Thailande! On l'a fait en trois jours, mais si je le refais, ce serait un minimum de 5 jours tant la ballade est magnifique, et pas mal de petites routes annexes a decouvrir !)
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Ah la la ! Tout fout le camp ! Avant c'etait mieux ! C'etait le bon temps ! PFFFFFFFFFF Quelle misere ces pays qui ne veulent garder leurs petites maisons en bois, leurs petits coins sauvages ou l'on puissent s'eclater ! Ils cherchent tous a se developper, a se moderniser... c'est terrible ca !
( Ben oui, moi aussi j'ai connu Pai avant ! Faire la ballade a moto : Chiang Mai- Mae sae- Pai -Soppong -Mai hong song-Mae Sariang et retout sans rater le Doi Ithanon, le sommet de la Thailande! On l'a fait en trois jours, mais si je le refais, ce serait un minimum de 5 jours tant la ballade est magnifique, et pas mal de petites routes annexes a decouvrir !)
Ne me fais pas dire ce que je n'ai meme pas sous entendu ste plait.
Oui c'etait mieux avant, et alors, faut pas le dire? Ben oui, je le dis, ceci dit, je n'ai donc jamais dit que le developpement c'etait mal.
M'enfin de la à ""part exemple"" faire d'un site archeologique une sorte de disneyland de la vieille pierre... (c'etait un exemple qui n'a rien a voir avec pai bien sur!)
Bonjour,
Si jeune, et penser deja : c'etait mieux avant ! Que devrais-je dire, moi qui ai connu Hua HIn, Kho Samui en 1983, Pai, il y a une quinzaine d'annees - en 2003, j'ai eu du mal a retrouver quelques endroits ! Oui, je le reconnais, longtemps j'ai dit : c'etait mieux avant ! Mais comme nous sommes des amateurs d'asie, je me suis de plus en plus interesse au bouddhisme, et ma perception n'est plus mon ego qui met des couleurs sur une realite, dis que c'est joli, que c'est moche, que c'est bien ou mal, etc, non, maintenant, je m'efforce de voir la realite telle qu'elle est et non comme je voudrais qu'elle soit ! En somme, c'est d'essayer d'etre adulte ! ( rares sont les gens qui y arrivent... heu... j'en suis encore loin, le chemin est difficile !). C'est pourquoi je dis : c'est different !
Siddharta, dont les propos, d'ordinaire, sont plus sages conseille : pay leo ! Mais cela ne concerne que sa propre perception ! Imagine quelqu'un qui arrive la 1ere fois a Pai... peut etre qu'il va aimer, puisqu'il n'a pas nos moyens de comparaison ! Que tous se fassent sa propre opinion !
Dans le courant de la vie, le flot d'energie, le "samsara", il faut nager avec le courant... nager a contre courant - se refugier dans le passe, c'etait mieux avant- c'est fatiguant, inutile, vain. Nager avec le courant, c'est etre dans le present, dans la realite !
Les endroits touristiques, comme Van Vieng au Laos ( la 1er fois 5 gh, en 2006 : 55 !) n'ont pas que des inconvenients ! Il ya le choix et la concurrence des prix pour se loger et manger, et le reste depend de notre capacite a s'engager dans des sentiers ou les touristes n'auront pas idee de s'y rendre. La region de Pai, Soppong, sont des endroits ou l'on peut decouvrir par soi-meme les villages ethniques, dans les montagnes, on peut s'y perdre aussi (il ne faut jamais y aller seul) !--
Aller de villes en villes/ca je l'ai bien connu. V.S.
J'oubliais : il y aura de plus en plus des "disneylands", le tourise deviendra la plus grande industrie du 21 ieme siecle... faudra bien proposer des endroits ou les gens pourront s'eclater. Et comme disait l'intiturice, dans le desert mauritanien : On peut pas garder le desert propre !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
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Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing
July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao
August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide
August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena
August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands
August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts)
August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk
August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar
August 17: Rammang Rammang
August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary.
We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1**
Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2**
Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3**
Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4**
Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5**
Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6**
Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7**
Sidemen
**Day 8**
Sidemen
**Day 9**
Sidemen
**Day 10**
Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11**
Gili Air
**Day 12**
Gili Air
**Day 13**
Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14**
Ubud
**Day 15**
Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family?
Does it feel too packed or well-balanced?
Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
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We’ve just started planning our family trip to Vietnam this coming August. We’d like to travel from North to South, starting in Hanoi and ending in Ho Chi Minh.
Usually, we rent a car when we arrive and manage on our own. But I get the feeling that in Vietnam, it’s more complicated... It seems like the only option we have is to rent a car with a driver? Is that really the case?
I’m thinking of starting with a cruise in Halong Bay since we arrive on my partner’s birthday, and I wanted a beautiful setting to celebrate it. So, is the option of having a driver wait for 2 days while we’re on the cruise really feasible?
The rest of the itinerary isn’t planned at all yet. I’d love to hear your tips. We’re traveling from August 8th (morning) to the 26th (afternoon).