Retour dans l'Ouest américain
by Andarelli
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Bonjour, je commence à réfléchir à un nouveau périple dans l'Ouest américain, comprenant Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Moab et ses environs notamment. Cela pourrait se faire début septembre 2015; Alors quelques questions: Où atterrir? d'où repartir? Sachant que je commencerai par Yellowstone et finirai par Moab. Combien de temps dois je y consacrer, sachant que je ne veux pas "courir"? Merci.
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Hello
Salt Lake City est l'aéroport le mieux placé pour ça.
Commencer par Yellowstone pour se donner le plus de chances pour la météo.
Arrivée SLC - Antelope Island SP - Jackson Hole - Grand Teton - Yellowstone - Flaming Gorge - Dinosaur - Fantasy Canyon - Moab - SLC
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Salt Lake City est l'aéroport le mieux placé pour ça.
Commencer par Yellowstone pour se donner le plus de chances pour la météo.
Arrivée SLC - Antelope Island SP - Jackson Hole - Grand Teton - Yellowstone - Flaming Gorge - Dinosaur - Fantasy Canyon - Moab - SLC
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Merci Itat; l'idée de ce voyage, un an après mon premier parcours est en train de mûrir.
ça m'a l'air bien.
Question que se posent beaucoup de personnes: Vaut il mieux choisir un hôtel chaque soir dans le Parc(4 à 5 nuits), ou vaut il mieux se poser pour 4 soirs à West Yellowstone? Questions budget, offre, emplacement.
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Vaut il mieux choisir un hôtel chaque soir dans le Parc(4 à 5 nuits), ou vaut il mieux se poser pour 4 soirs à West Yellowstone? Questions budget, offre, emplacement.
Bonjour,
Alors là tu auras autant d'avis que de réponses.
Pour nous, 3 voyages au Yellowstone et 3 séjours à West Yellowstone. WY est une petite ville sympa (restos...) et moi j'aime bien me "poser" de temps en temps. Tu feras plus de kms, mais la route est agréable. Si on retourne une 4ème fois Yellowstone, on logera encore à WY.
Bonjour,
Alors là tu auras autant d'avis que de réponses.
Pour nous, 3 voyages au Yellowstone et 3 séjours à West Yellowstone. WY est une petite ville sympa (restos...) et moi j'aime bien me "poser" de temps en temps. Tu feras plus de kms, mais la route est agréable. Si on retourne une 4ème fois Yellowstone, on logera encore à WY.
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tu loge ou à west yellowstone kimy ?
Quand j'y sui allé j'ai été à l'evergreen motel , motel tres bien.
Bonjour,
En juin nous étions au Evergreen Motel, très bien effectivement, mais la chambre était petite. En 2011, c'était au LazyG, très bien aussi, mais il faut réserver par mail ou tél (au Evergreen c'est sur le site de l'hôtel) et c'est ce qui a fait la différence cette année. En 2006 (nous n'avions pas réservé nos hôtels) nous nous sommes arrêtés au Madison, historique mais vieillot.
En juin nous étions au Evergreen Motel, très bien effectivement, mais la chambre était petite. En 2011, c'était au LazyG, très bien aussi, mais il faut réserver par mail ou tél (au Evergreen c'est sur le site de l'hôtel) et c'est ce qui a fait la différence cette année. En 2006 (nous n'avions pas réservé nos hôtels) nous nous sommes arrêtés au Madison, historique mais vieillot.
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Pareil que Kimy
A part au premier voyage, j'ai regroupé toutes mes nuits à West Yellowstone aux suivants, et ça me va très bien. Carburant moins cher que dans le parc, restauration aussi, de quoi faire ses courses pour le pique-nique du midi...
A part au premier voyage, j'ai regroupé toutes mes nuits à West Yellowstone aux suivants, et ça me va très bien. Carburant moins cher que dans le parc, restauration aussi, de quoi faire ses courses pour le pique-nique du midi...
Merci pour vos réponses; si je concrétise (rapidement) le voyage ça sera début septembre 2015. Et certains hôtels sont déja complets pour cette période, c'est le cas de l'Evergreen. Mais je me fais à l'idée de choisir West Yellowstone.
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Non c'est pas forcement complet .Sa peut etre parce que les chambres ne sont pas encore à la vente.
Début septembre tu as Labor Day (7 sept 2015), donc WE très chargé.
Quelque soit l'endroit où tu seras, réserves assez longtemps à l'avance. Tu choisis un (des) hôtel annulable et tu annules au fur et à mesure que tu avances dans tes préparatifs.
Quelque soit l'endroit où tu seras, réserves assez longtemps à l'avance. Tu choisis un (des) hôtel annulable et tu annules au fur et à mesure que tu avances dans tes préparatifs.
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Merci, je vais proceder comme cela; en y retournant frequemment. Je suppose, que pour la suite de mon parcours, c'est pareil à Moab.
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Bonjour
Pour Moab, on avait beaucoup apprécié de louer une villa pour 4 nuits : on peut faire des lessives, manger plus équilibré et moins cher (les petits déj redeviennent un peu plus "français"). Financièrement on s'y était largement retrouvé vs un hôtel : ils se remplissent assez vite à Moab en août et on s'y était pris en avril. Pour info la villa qu'on avait louée : http://www.moabutahlodging.com/GetClubPropertyScreen.event?fac=25095 les gens de l'agence sont très bien
Pour Moab, on avait beaucoup apprécié de louer une villa pour 4 nuits : on peut faire des lessives, manger plus équilibré et moins cher (les petits déj redeviennent un peu plus "français"). Financièrement on s'y était largement retrouvé vs un hôtel : ils se remplissent assez vite à Moab en août et on s'y était pris en avril. Pour info la villa qu'on avait louée : http://www.moabutahlodging.com/GetClubPropertyScreen.event?fac=25095 les gens de l'agence sont très bien
Bonjour, je suis toujours dans la préparation de mon voyage; les dates sont fixées, entre le 5 et 23/24 septembre 2015. Je réserverai mes billets d'avion en début d'année, m'attachant surtout pour le moment à étudier le parcours, dans la ligne de ce que propose Itat, et à réserver les hôtels. J'attends une réponse de l'Alpine à West Yellowstone pour 4 jours, et cherche quelque chose de sympathique à Moab, pour 4 jours aussi. Merci eaglefoot, mais la solution appartement me semble chère, et sont surtout pour 4 personnes; nous sommes 2.Alors si vous avez des idées pour Moab? Autour de 80/90dollars /nuit.
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Pour Moab, l'Inca Inn (motel) est dans ces prix.
Merci Itat. J'en ai lu du bien ici ou là; je vais m'en occuper. Une question, entre Yellowstone et Moab, il y a Flaming Gorge, Dinosaur, Fantasy Canyon; cela peut il se faire en 3 jours? Ou en faut il 4?
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Alors 3 jours c'est déjà bien 🙂, la plupart des visiteurs n'en prenant que deux 😕
Là ça permettra de faire :
J1: route Moab - Vernal avec visite de la partie Colorado de Dinosaur (Harper's Corner et piste si 4*4) - Fantasy Canyon en fin d'après-midi
J2: Vernal - Dinosaur partie Utah - Flaming Gorge - Nuit Rock Springs
J3: Route pour Yellowstone
Là ça permettra de faire :
J1: route Moab - Vernal avec visite de la partie Colorado de Dinosaur (Harper's Corner et piste si 4*4) - Fantasy Canyon en fin d'après-midi
J2: Vernal - Dinosaur partie Utah - Flaming Gorge - Nuit Rock Springs
J3: Route pour Yellowstone
Pardon Itat, mais je fais Yellowstone -Moab. Donc je prends ta prroposition à l'envers? Merci
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Oui pardon !!
J1 Yellowstone - South Pass City Ghost Town (notamment si tu viens de Cody) - Flaming Gorge - Nuit Red Canyon
J2: Red Canyon - Dinosaur (Utah) - Fantasy Canyon - Nuit Vernal
J3: Vernal - Dinosaur (Colorado) - Nuit Moab
J1 Yellowstone - South Pass City Ghost Town (notamment si tu viens de Cody) - Flaming Gorge - Nuit Red Canyon
J2: Red Canyon - Dinosaur (Utah) - Fantasy Canyon - Nuit Vernal
J3: Vernal - Dinosaur (Colorado) - Nuit Moab
Bonjour Itat,
Dans ton dernier message, Red Canyon veut dire Rock springs, non?
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Non, non 😉
Nuit Red Canyon à Flaming Gorge car Rock Springs te ferait revenir en arrière
Nuit Red Canyon à Flaming Gorge car Rock Springs te ferait revenir en arrière
Vu! Merci
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Bonsoir
Y a t'il un moyen de rejoindre Cody en partant de West Yellowstone, qui ne fasse pas passer par Bozeman, comme le suggere google maps, ce qui fait un temps de 5h
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Je crois que j'ai touvé; en longeant le lac par la 14 et la 16. Non?
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Bonsoir
Y a t'il un moyen de rejoindre Cody en partant de West Yellowstone, qui ne fasse pas passer par Bozeman, comme le suggere google maps, ce qui fait un temps de 5h
Merci
Google Maps te fait passer par Bozeman car en hiver les autres routes sont fermées.
Google Maps te fait passer par Bozeman car en hiver les autres routes sont fermées.
D'accord, je comprends. Mais un 13 septembre, je peux éviter, non? A moins d'un temps execrable bien sûr.
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Oui bien sûr 😉
Bonjour, voici un programme prévisionnel pour:
VOYAGE OUEST AMERICAIN SEPTEMBRE 2015 Itinéraire prévisionnel.
5/09: Arrivée Salt Lake City 6/09: Salt Lake City 7/09: Antelope Island, Jackson Hole 8/09: Grand Teton 9, 10, 11, 12/09: West Yellowstone (en attente confirmation Alpine Motel) 13/09: Cody 14/09: Par South Pass City Ghost Town, Flaming Gorge; nuit Red Canyon. 15/09: Dinosaur, Fantasy, nuit Vernal. 15/09: Dinosaur, Moab. 16, 17, 18/09:Moab.(hôtel réservé) 19, 20/09: Capitol Reef; nuits à Torrey. 21, 22/09: ??? 23/09: Retour France Des idées pour Les 21 et 22 sur la route de SLC? Des embûches sur le reste du programme? Vos coups de cœur! Sachant que je peux éventuellement ajouter une journée. Merci
VOYAGE OUEST AMERICAIN SEPTEMBRE 2015 Itinéraire prévisionnel.
5/09: Arrivée Salt Lake City 6/09: Salt Lake City 7/09: Antelope Island, Jackson Hole 8/09: Grand Teton 9, 10, 11, 12/09: West Yellowstone (en attente confirmation Alpine Motel) 13/09: Cody 14/09: Par South Pass City Ghost Town, Flaming Gorge; nuit Red Canyon. 15/09: Dinosaur, Fantasy, nuit Vernal. 15/09: Dinosaur, Moab. 16, 17, 18/09:Moab.(hôtel réservé) 19, 20/09: Capitol Reef; nuits à Torrey. 21, 22/09: ??? 23/09: Retour France Des idées pour Les 21 et 22 sur la route de SLC? Des embûches sur le reste du programme? Vos coups de cœur! Sachant que je peux éventuellement ajouter une journée. Merci
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Hello
Quoi de prévu la journée entière à Salt Lake City ? Si rien de particulier n'est prévu, pourquoi pas aller faire un tour sur l'étendue de sel de Bonneville Salt Flats ?
Pour les deux jours à la fin du circuit: creuser du côté de la route 12 et d'Escalante, il y a pas mal de choses à voir, en vrac: Burr Trail, Strike Valley Overlook, Calf Creek Falls, Hole In The Rock Rd: Devils Garden, Spooky et Peek A Boo Slot Canyon etc ...
Quoi de prévu la journée entière à Salt Lake City ? Si rien de particulier n'est prévu, pourquoi pas aller faire un tour sur l'étendue de sel de Bonneville Salt Flats ?
Pour les deux jours à la fin du circuit: creuser du côté de la route 12 et d'Escalante, il y a pas mal de choses à voir, en vrac: Burr Trail, Strike Valley Overlook, Calf Creek Falls, Hole In The Rock Rd: Devils Garden, Spooky et Peek A Boo Slot Canyon etc ...
Bonjour et bonne annee à tous et toutes.
Question: pour mon voyage qui me fera donc passer par Yellowstone, Red Canyon, Moab, Capitol Reef, quelle voiture dois je louer? Une voiture classique ou un SUV? Y a t'il beaucoup de pistes sur ces differents sites, et faut il s'y aventurer?
Plus haut, j'ai posté le déroulé de mon séjour.
Je pose cette question car la location de véhicules à Salt Lake city est assez élevée.
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Un SUV pour être plus confortable et faire les pistes pour Fantasy Canyon, Dinosaur etc ...
Un SUV pour être plus confortable et faire les pistes pour Fantasy Canyon, Dinosaur etc ...
Bonsoir Antoine,
Peut-etre devriez-vous nous dire combien de jours vous comptez passer aux USA.
Cela serait utile a tous ceux qui sont en mesure de vous aider.
Si je n'ai pas vu cette info, mille excuses.
Amities
Alex
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How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
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Merci Alex voici un programme prévisionnel pour:
VOYAGE OUEST AMERICAIN SEPTEMBRE 2015
5/09: Arrivée Salt Lake City 6/09: Salt Lake City 7/09: Antelope Island, Jackson Hole 8/09: Grand Teton 9, 10, 11, 12/09: West Yellowstone (Alpine Motel) 13/09: Cody 14/09: Par South Pass City Ghost Town, Flaming Gorge; nuit Red Canyon. 15/09: Dinosaur, Fantasy, nuit Vernal. 15/09: Dinosaur, Moab. 16, 17, 18/09:Moab.(Motel Inca Inn) 19, 20/09: Capitol Reef; nuits à Torrey. 21, 22/09: ??? 23/09: Retour France Bonsoir
VOYAGE OUEST AMERICAIN SEPTEMBRE 2015
5/09: Arrivée Salt Lake City 6/09: Salt Lake City 7/09: Antelope Island, Jackson Hole 8/09: Grand Teton 9, 10, 11, 12/09: West Yellowstone (Alpine Motel) 13/09: Cody 14/09: Par South Pass City Ghost Town, Flaming Gorge; nuit Red Canyon. 15/09: Dinosaur, Fantasy, nuit Vernal. 15/09: Dinosaur, Moab. 16, 17, 18/09:Moab.(Motel Inca Inn) 19, 20/09: Capitol Reef; nuits à Torrey. 21, 22/09: ??? 23/09: Retour France Bonsoir
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Un SUV pour être plus confortable et faire les pistes pour Fantasy Canyon, Dinosaur etc ...
Merci Itat. Ça sera un SUV en effet. Les loueurs de l'Utah proposent "bas de caisse" dans leurs assurances. La circulation sur piste est elle donc possible dans cet État?
Un SUV pour être plus confortable et faire les pistes pour Fantasy Canyon, Dinosaur etc ...
Merci Itat. Ça sera un SUV en effet. Les loueurs de l'Utah proposent "bas de caisse" dans leurs assurances. La circulation sur piste est elle donc possible dans cet État?
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En théorie on n'est pas assurés sur les pistes ... 😉
Merci Itat. Remarque, je m'en doutais un peu.
Bon, les hôtels pour Yellowstone et Moab sont réservés.
Question: Pour Grand Teton, peut on visiter le parc en residant à Jackson Hole, sur 2 jours? Les nuits des 7 et 8 septembre, puis rejoindre West Yellowstone le 9? Les motels de Colter Bay ont l'air assez chers.
Merci
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Jackson Hole n'est pas donné ... Mais au pire des cas, oui on peut loger à Jackson Hole même si ça fait revenir en arrière, la route n'est pas désagréable.
A Colter Bay, j'avais logé dans des cabines qui n'étaient pas très chères, en tout cas pas plus cher qu'un hôtel quelconque à Jackson Hole.
Bonsoir Antoine,
Ou comptez vous terminer votre voyage?
Depuis Torrey en 2 jours vous avez le choix de Vegas ou de Salt Lake City.
Amities
Alex
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When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
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Merci Itat, je vais étudier les 2 sites; ça sera peut être une nuit à Jackson et une nuit à Colter bay.
Alex, je fais une boucle avec arrivée et départ à Salt Lake City. Je compte réserver mes billets fin janvier-début février.
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Bonsoir à tout le monde je reviens dans ma discussion, car il y a du nouveau. Tout d'abord merci une nouvelle fois pour vos contributions. Mais voila, le voyage était bien avancé dans sa préparation en cette fin janvier, quand et c'est une bonne nouvelle, notre fille nous annonce qu'elle sera maman, pour la première fois en septembre; pile pendant le voyage que nous avions prévu. Notre fils ayant déja des jumelles, nous serons à nouveau grands parents. Autant dire que nous avons annulé les chambres réservées à Yellowstone et Moab; heureusement nous n'avions pas encore réservé les billets d'avion. Et je projette donc de reporter mon voyage au mois de juin 2016, en y ajoutant 4 jours à Los Angeles. Ce qui donnerait un voyage du 1er au 23 ou 24 juin 2016.
Première question: du 8 au 12 juin, est ce une bonne période pour le Yellowstone?
Je reviendrais vers vous, si vous le permettez avec de nouvelles questions.
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Autre question: dois je ouvrir une nouvelle discussion, en raison du report de mon voyage? Ou puis je continuer celle ci?
Un rappel du voyage et du circuit prévisionnel, avec les nouvelles dates.
VOYAGE OUEST AMERICAIN Juin 2016 Itinéraire prévisionnel. 1/06: arrivée à Los Angeles, jusq'au 5 juin 5/06: Arrivée Salt Lake City en fin de matinée, Antelope Island en après midi 6/7/06: Jackson/ Grand Teton
8/9/10/11/12/06: West Yellowstone 13/06: Cody 14/06: Par South Pass City Ghost Town, Flaming Gorge; nuit Red Canyon. 15/09: Dinosaur, Fantasy, nuit Vernal. 15/06:Dinosaur, Moab. 16, 17, 18/06:Moab. 19, 20/06: Capitol Reef; nuits à Torrey. 21, 22/23/06: à définir, avec un possible vol Salt Lake city- Los Angeles pour retour en France. Car les vols Paris /LA, A/R, plus un a/r LA/SLC sont moins chers que le retour par SLC. Qu'en pensez vous? Même s'il est trop tôt pour réserver les vols. Merci
VOYAGE OUEST AMERICAIN Juin 2016 Itinéraire prévisionnel. 1/06: arrivée à Los Angeles, jusq'au 5 juin 5/06: Arrivée Salt Lake City en fin de matinée, Antelope Island en après midi 6/7/06: Jackson/ Grand Teton
8/9/10/11/12/06: West Yellowstone 13/06: Cody 14/06: Par South Pass City Ghost Town, Flaming Gorge; nuit Red Canyon. 15/09: Dinosaur, Fantasy, nuit Vernal. 15/06:Dinosaur, Moab. 16, 17, 18/06:Moab. 19, 20/06: Capitol Reef; nuits à Torrey. 21, 22/23/06: à définir, avec un possible vol Salt Lake city- Los Angeles pour retour en France. Car les vols Paris /LA, A/R, plus un a/r LA/SLC sont moins chers que le retour par SLC. Qu'en pensez vous? Même s'il est trop tôt pour réserver les vols. Merci
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Je pense que tu peux continuer sur cette discussion, ça sera plus clair d'avoir l'évolution.
Pour Yellowstone, début juin, ça peut être tout bon niveau météo où ça peut être encore l'hiver, cela dépend des années. Et ça peut même très vite évolué d'un jour à l'autre, aussi bien tu auras toutes les saisons en 4 jours 😉
Si tu fais un aller Paris - LA et un retour SLC - Paris il faut bien sûr cocher la case multi destination et ne pas prendre deux aller simples 😉 ... Erreur souvent commise !
Perso j'inverserais quand même l'ordre du circuit pour finir par le Yellowstone.
Je pense que tu peux continuer sur cette discussion, ça sera plus clair d'avoir l'évolution.
Pour Yellowstone, début juin, ça peut être tout bon niveau météo où ça peut être encore l'hiver, cela dépend des années. Et ça peut même très vite évolué d'un jour à l'autre, aussi bien tu auras toutes les saisons en 4 jours 😉
Si tu fais un aller Paris - LA et un retour SLC - Paris il faut bien sûr cocher la case multi destination et ne pas prendre deux aller simples 😉 ... Erreur souvent commise !
Perso j'inverserais quand même l'ordre du circuit pour finir par le Yellowstone.
Bonjour
De mon experience de cette année, un vol retour JACKSON HOLE->PARIS, avec correspondance à SLC, ne coutait pas plus cher que d'autres combinaisons.
Pour Yellowstone debut juin, je n'ai pas vu de grandes difference avec juillet l'an dernier : Quand même moins de monde, mais la Blacktail Plateau Drive etait fermée, pour ne pas gener les ours...
Pour Yellowstone debut juin, je n'ai pas vu de grandes difference avec juillet l'an dernier : Quand même moins de monde, mais la Blacktail Plateau Drive etait fermée, pour ne pas gener les ours...
Salut Thibaud et Jean Pierre, et merci pour vos réponses.
"Perso j'inverserais quand même l'ordre du circuit pour finir par le Yellowstone."
Tu as raison Thibaud, je ferai peut être le circuit à l'envers pour gagner quelques jours sur juin au Yellowstone. Pour les voyages, trop tôt, je sais, mais je commence à voir les différentes propositions. Les vols de Paris pour SLC ou retour sont chers. Et comme je voudrais profiter de mon séjour aux States pour visiter une ville, je passerai bien 4 ou 5 jours à Los Angeles. D'où mon idée d'arriver et de repartir de LA. En y ajoutant les vols intérieurs LA-SLC allers/retours ça reste pour le moment concurrentiel. Bien sûr, j'attends des avis, des conseils, tes astuces ou tuyaux pour continuer à préparer ce voyage. Merci
"Perso j'inverserais quand même l'ordre du circuit pour finir par le Yellowstone."
Tu as raison Thibaud, je ferai peut être le circuit à l'envers pour gagner quelques jours sur juin au Yellowstone. Pour les voyages, trop tôt, je sais, mais je commence à voir les différentes propositions. Les vols de Paris pour SLC ou retour sont chers. Et comme je voudrais profiter de mon séjour aux States pour visiter une ville, je passerai bien 4 ou 5 jours à Los Angeles. D'où mon idée d'arriver et de repartir de LA. En y ajoutant les vols intérieurs LA-SLC allers/retours ça reste pour le moment concurrentiel. Bien sûr, j'attends des avis, des conseils, tes astuces ou tuyaux pour continuer à préparer ce voyage. Merci
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l'été se termine et nous passons aux choses sérieuses. Je reviendrai ici pour poser des questions plus précises, mais voici déjà mon itinéraire prévisionnel pour juin 2016.
VOYAGE OUEST AMÉRICAIN Juin 2016 Itinéraire prévisionnel. 1/06: arrivée à Los Angeles, jusq'au 5 juin 5/06: Arrivée Salt Lake City en fin de journée. Antelope Island en après midi 6/06: Bryce, Cannonville. 7/06: Torrey, par la scenic road12, Boulder… 8/6: Capitol Reef 9/10/11/12/06: Moab 13/06: Flaming Gorge en passant par Dinosaur National Monument. Arrivée à Flaming gorge avant le coucher du soleil. Nuit à Red canyon ou Manila; selon les prix. Quelqu’un connait Manila. 14/06: Cody par South Pass City Ghost Town. Cody est apparemment une ville très chère. Quelqu’un connaitrait une alternative? La partie est du Parc Yellowstone, peut elle se faire lors de mon passage pour rejoindre West Yellowstone? 15/16/17/18/06: West Yellowstone. 19/20/06:Grand Teton. Pareil si prix trop élevés, y aurait il alternative à Jackson? Colter Bay? 21/06:Antelope Island 22/06: Salt Lake city, retour en France soit par SLC, soit par un passage à LA. Car les vols Paris /LA, A/R, plus un A/R LA/SLC sont moins chers que le retour par SLC. Qu'en pensez vous? Même s'il est trop tôt pour réserver les vols. Sachant que l’on peut si besoin rajouter une journée, où peut on le faire? Merci
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VOYAGE OUEST AMÉRICAIN Juin 2016 Itinéraire prévisionnel. 1/06: arrivée à Los Angeles, jusq'au 5 juin 5/06: Arrivée Salt Lake City en fin de journée. Antelope Island en après midi 6/06: Bryce, Cannonville. 7/06: Torrey, par la scenic road12, Boulder… 8/6: Capitol Reef 9/10/11/12/06: Moab 13/06: Flaming Gorge en passant par Dinosaur National Monument. Arrivée à Flaming gorge avant le coucher du soleil. Nuit à Red canyon ou Manila; selon les prix. Quelqu’un connait Manila. 14/06: Cody par South Pass City Ghost Town. Cody est apparemment une ville très chère. Quelqu’un connaitrait une alternative? La partie est du Parc Yellowstone, peut elle se faire lors de mon passage pour rejoindre West Yellowstone? 15/16/17/18/06: West Yellowstone. 19/20/06:Grand Teton. Pareil si prix trop élevés, y aurait il alternative à Jackson? Colter Bay? 21/06:Antelope Island 22/06: Salt Lake city, retour en France soit par SLC, soit par un passage à LA. Car les vols Paris /LA, A/R, plus un A/R LA/SLC sont moins chers que le retour par SLC. Qu'en pensez vous? Même s'il est trop tôt pour réserver les vols. Sachant que l’on peut si besoin rajouter une journée, où peut on le faire? Merci
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14/06: Cody par South Pass City Ghost Town. Cody est apparemment une ville très chère. Quelqu’un connaitrait une alternative?
A une petite demi-heure de route vers l'Est tu as Powell où tu as notamment un Super 8. C'est moins cher qu'à Cody.
Pour Grand Teton, à part camper, je ne vois pas moins cher à proximité 😕
A une petite demi-heure de route vers l'Est tu as Powell où tu as notamment un Super 8. C'est moins cher qu'à Cody.
Pour Grand Teton, à part camper, je ne vois pas moins cher à proximité 😕
14/06: Cody par South Pass City Ghost Town. Cody est apparemment une ville très chère. Quelqu’un connaitrait une alternative?
A une petite demi-heure de route vers l'Est tu as Powell où tu as notamment un Super 8. C'est moins cher qu'à Cody.
Pour Grand Teton, à part camper, je ne vois pas moins cher à proximité 😕
Merci Itat. Je vais voir ça. A bientôt
A une petite demi-heure de route vers l'Est tu as Powell où tu as notamment un Super 8. C'est moins cher qu'à Cody.
Pour Grand Teton, à part camper, je ne vois pas moins cher à proximité 😕
Merci Itat. Je vais voir ça. A bientôt
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So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
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We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
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Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
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After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
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I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
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Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
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There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
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Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
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**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
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As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Merci de me conseiller pour la réservation pour la plus belle vue faut il réserver une chambre dans l'hôtel ou choisir une cabane ?
Prendre le petit déjeuner ou pas ?
Que pensez vous du restaurant ?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan





