Nous voilà arrivé à Saigon avec une cops. Notre premier repas fut orgasmique (si si !)
D'ici 2 ou 3 jours on aimerait faire route jusqu'à Da Lat. On nous a proposé un bus à couchette pour 15 dolls. Mais ce que nous voudrions surtout, c'est prendre notre temps et le faire en 3 ou 4 étapes (jours). Pour profiter de la route et du paysage entre autres. Par quel moyen pourrait on faire ça ? On ne peut ni louer ni acheter de moto car nous portons 15kg chacun.
bonjou
ben l'ideal etant la moto et transporter 15 kgs n'etant pas un cap infranchissable en moto je dis la moto et encore la moto (si besoin et si vous repassez par saigon , votre hotel pourra sans probleme vous garder le surplus de bagage , j'ai souvent fais cela au vietnam et jamais de probleme
sinon la solution passer par une agence louez un vehicule quatre roue et un chauffeur et vous partez quand vous voulez (par contre je pense qu'il faut compter mini 75 a 80 dollars par jours plus l'ébergement du chauffeur
sinon c'est le bus avec ses incconvénients
C'est tellement tentant la moto.. et certainement le moyen le plus abordable. Sinon on le fait d'une traite en bus et on loue des motos surplace, vers Da Lat... Cest montagneux, mais accessible en général ?
a mon avis non tu ne pourras pas louer a saigon et rendre la moto a dalat toutes les loc que j'ai fais au vietnam étaient avec retour a la base imperatif !!
sinon effectivement monter a dalat en bus et rayonner autour !!
J'ai fait les Hauts Plateaux de Hoi An à Dalat en 14 jours. Comme toujours avec des itinéraires où certaines portions de route sont barbantes, j'ai fait les trajets entre chaque ville (Kontum - charmant - Pleiku - moche !, Buon Me Thuot - agréable - Lak Lak -sans intérêt - et Dalat - super !, en minbus, et loué une moto sur place avec les hôtels pour visite des trucs interressants en ville (comme le musée ethnographique de Buon Me Thuot) et 1 ou 2 jours de balade autour (3 j autour de Dalat, où il y a beaucoup à voir). Voilà mes notes de voyages
Il y avait une 2e partie qui a disparu, donc, voilà !
LE LAC LAK
Grosse déception ! Le cadre est lambda, la Lak Resort, avec ses bungalows sur le lac serait bien si elle n’était pas aussi mal entretenue (détritus partout vu le nombre de touristes locaux) , et la villa de Bao Dai sur la colline au-dessus est très quelconque (et la terrasse aussi sale vu que c’est la même direction) ; en plus, tout cela est hors de prix : 450 000 D pour une chambre standard nulle et 750 000 pour un bungalow ; à noter tout de même qu’ils ont une longue maison dortoir à 280 000 le lit, mais elle est ouverte au public, donc j’ai préféré garder mes affaires en sûreté dans une chambre ! Visite du village de Jun , sur les bords du lac, avec ses belles maisons longues Edé sur pilotis (balade lambda en éléphant, qui patauge dans le lac)
DA LAT
J’ai adoré ! Enfin, on sait comment aller où grâce au plan donné par tous les hôtels, et on peut se régaler. L’excellent Dreams Hotel de la très distinguée francophone Mme Dung étant complet - c’est souvent le cas - je me suis retrouvé chez son frère au Thien An, aussi bien et plus au calme, avec le même énorme buffet pour le petit déjeuner, un repas à lui tout seul ! VTT Gratuits et motos 4$ manuel, 5$ automatique. Les routards trouveront leur bonheur aux 2 Peace Guest House 64 et 67 Truong Cong Dinh (prendre le 2e, le 1er m’a eu l’air mal tenu).
Je me suis régalé au Nhat Ly(88 Phan Dinh Phung), un vrai bistrot à la cuisine délicieuse et très copieuse pour des prix plancher (arriver après 20h, très difficile d’avoir une table avant) et au Trong Dông(220 Phan Dinh Phung), salle élégante et cuisine viet vraiment raffinée (essayer les plats d’anguilles, divins !).
Commencé par la visite des sites célèbres de Da Lat :
- La villa de Bao Dai, du vrai Art Déco, sans aucun clinquant pour un « palais » d’empereur ;
- La Crazy House, un délire architectural surréaliste pas si crazy que ça ; enfin un(e) architecte qui a compris que les cubes en béton n’étaient pas la panacée universelle en architecture ! Il y a là-dedans 5 chambres invraisemblables, j’y aurais bien déménagé mais Mme Dang Viet Nga n’était pas là (dommage, je suis sûr que j’aurais eu des conversations passionnantes avec elle, d’autant plus que son père Truong Chinh était le bras droit d’Ho Chi Minh et un ancien président du Vietnam) ;
- La pagode Linh Phuoc, un délire baroque cette fois-ci. Soyez curieux et allez derrière visiter le temple Cao Dai de Da lat, perché sur une colline avec très belle vue de la région ; c’est le plus grand temple après celui de Tay Ninh dans le Sud ; intérieur aussi kitsch dans les deux ;
- Les belles villas coloniales de la rue Tran Hung Dao : il semble que la société Dalat Casada Resort les ait transformées en un grand hotel, mais je n’ai vu aucune « villa-réception » ;
- Le 5 étoiles Dalat Palace Hotel (ex-Sofitel), qui date de 1932 avec son petit frère 4 étoiles le Du Parc (ex-Novotel) et le très colonial restaurant Café de la Poste (hors de prix !), tout cela Art Déco également ;
- La gare (marrante ! Il y a un petit train qui va jusqu’à Trai Mat ; il parait qu’il traversait « des champs de fleurs », il traverse maintenant du béton, donc …) ;
Ensuite, 2 jours en moto pour voir de très beaux endroits :
· Le sommet du mont Lang Biang (2100 m), d’où l’on a une vue spectaculaire de toute la région, couverte à perte de vue de serres à fleurs et légumes et le très chouette XQ village historique, avec ses ateliers de broderies (j’ai zappé le « Village de l’Amour », même les locaux trouvent ça ridicule) ;
· La cascade Dalanta, à 5 kmsur la route de Saigon ; belles chutes après lesquelles le torrent s’engouffre dans un canyon que l’on peut « survoler » en téléférique. Pour ceux qui n’aiment pas marcher, on peut arriver aux chutes en prenant un roller coaster impressionnant.
J’ai continué la route jusqu’à la cascade de Prenn, vous pouvez oublier, jamais vu un Disneyworld pareil !
· La très belle cascade de l’éléphant –thac voï - à 27 km à l’ouest de Da Lat (prendre la rue Hoang Van Thu, passez devant la cascade Cam Ly (nulle !) et suivre les panneaux indicateurs « Ta Nung » ; vous descendez un long col et arrivez dans une autre région de caféiers à perte de vue – par contre, grosse déception, il parait que c’est là que sont les grands vignobles de Dalat, mais je ne les ai pas trouvés et, de toute façon, il parait qu’on ne visite pas ; c’est bien la première région à pinard que je connaisse où il n’ ya a pas de « tournées de caves » ! Traverser Ta Nung et direction Nam Ban ; les chutes sont sur la droite à la sortie du bourg ; attention, on y accède en descendant un ravin de gigantesque rochers en basalte, c’est vraiment casse-g… , chaussures de marche indispensables et vous pouvez oublier s’il a plu !)
Retour en avion Da Lat-Hanoï (2 compagnies ; Vietnam Airlines et Air Mékong) ; attention, il n’y a que 2 vols par jour vers 16h, donc bien prendre ses précautions. L’aéroport de Lien Khong est à 25 km au sud de Da Lat ; taxis normaux 200 000 D (mais 300 000 avec Mai Linh !) ou minibus (40 000 D) qui partent 2 heures avant le vol du café Ngoc My, 1 Nguyen Thai Hoc.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Mais il n'y a qu'un Larsay, NOTRE Larsay, capable de nous faire aimer..... même des endroits qu'on a jugés moches, sans intérêt, inutiles.... - c'est ça la classe.....
Cordialement - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
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Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing
July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao
August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide
August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena
August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands
August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts)
August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk
August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar
August 17: Rammang Rammang
August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!