Transmongolien Pékin - Moscou en été 2011
by Louralulu
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour !Nous recherchons des informations sur le voyage en transmongolien depuis Pékin jusqu'à Moscou, notamment sur les horaires et les prix des trains.
Nous aimerions nous arrêter à Oulan-Bator, à Irkutsk et une ou deux autres fois en Sibérie. Nous serons trois ou quatre, et plutôt dans un souci économique!
Merci pour vos réponses, même semi-complètes, on prend tout ! :D
nous aussi nous allons faire ce trajet ( en mars 2011) le prix du transmongolien pekin , ob, irkutsk, moscow c est env 250 euros;
les horaires ainsi que pleins d infos sont sur le site de terremongolia.com ( un site qui a l air d etre tres bien)
bon voyage 🙂
sophie
sophie
sophie marguery
non on les prendra directement sur place a pekin, ce n est pas les periodes de vacances ou de fetes ya de la place en ce moment; sinon j ai une adresse que j ai trouvé sur un site, il faut contacter richard@oceantravel.com.cn c est pour les reservations des billets de trains
chenh@cits.com.cn
vous partez quand? 🙂
vous partez quand? 🙂
sophie marguery
un peu pres 1 mois en partant de chez nous ( chiang rai, thailande)
on se recontactera, je vous donnerai des infos lors de notre retour :)))🙂
sophie marguery
Salut,
Je compte finir mon tour du monde par le meme trajet que vous. Atuellement a Jingong, je compte arriver sur Pekin d'ici un mois.
Cependant, j'ai quelques craintes pour l'obtention du visa russe a Pekin. Sur ce forum, certains disent que c'est faisable d'autres disent que c'est reservé aux résidents en chine (tout comme a bangkok d'ailleurs). Comment avez vous envisagé cette delicate question ?
Les dates ayant l'air de concorder, peut-etre se croisera t on au hasard des routes...
Merci d'avance
bonjour :))) nous avons fait le visa pour la russie a bangkok ( nous sommes domicilies en thailande, peut etre que cela a facilité les choses) normalement je pense que vous aurez le visa russe a pekin ou a oulan bator;
nous partons jeudi pour kumming en bus de chiang rai ( thailande)
bon ben peut etre que l on se voit dans le transsiberien:)) nous le prenons debut avril!!!!!
bon voyage😉
sophie
sophie
sophie marguery
Salut,
Je suis justement a Kunmig.
Je sais pas trop comment vous voyagez, mais il y a une auberge de jeunesse (hyper cheap) qu'avec des routards chinois super sympa.
C'est Cloudland sur Xichang road. Je pense en partir samedi ou dimanche Chengdu.
Peut etre s'y croissera t on.
Bon trip
(Pour le visa, c'est parce que vous y etes residents, moi, ils ont pas voulu :( Je verrai a Pekin...)
ok merci du bon plan de l auberge de jeunesse :)))) je pense que nous serons a kumming ce week end :) alors a bientot peut etre🙂
sophie marguery
Salut,
Comment était la guest a Kunming ? On a du e louper de peu, j'en suis parti le dimanche ?
Ou etes vous maintenant ?
Moi je suis a Xi'an, et devrait arriver a pekin le 28.
Bon trip.
salut, nous sommes a pekin, nous avons pris le train de kumming a pekin, trajet super genial))))et mardi nous partons pour ulan bator, pekin c est une enorme ville, on prefere kumming )))))
les prix du trnanssiberien ont augmente, c est 1300 yuene pour aller a ulanbator, il y a des depart que le mercredi et samedi. nous on va partir mardi en bus jusqu a la frontiere ensuite on prendra un train mongole. au guest house ou nous sommes, le candy inn, ils ont un bon plan jusqu a oulan bator pour 600 yuene, bus et train. a bientot peut etre et bon voyage 🙂
sophie
sophie marguery
Hey ! Super d'avoir de vos nouvelles ! Ca donne l'eau à la bouche :)
Pour les prix et les horaires, sais-tu si ce sera les mêmes cet été ?
Sinon je crois qu'on fera comme vous pour aller jusqu'à Oulan Bator !
C'est chouette si vous pouvez continuer de nous tenir au courant de votre périple !
Profitez bien !! 🙂
des notre retour en thailande ( en mai) on mettra toutes les infos et les prix sur un blog. un truc super important si vous deposez votre passeport dans une ambassade a pekin pour un visa mongol ou autres , sachez qu aucun hotel ne vous acceptera sans passeport ( donc bien choisir son hotel avant) 🙂
sophie marguery
en faite nous avons change nos billets de bus et de train pour prendre le transmongolien de pekin direct a ulan bator , plus cher mais moins long, nous partons demain a 7h pour arriver a ulan bator le lendemain a 14h. pour l achat des billets de train internationnal faut les acheter en face de la gare centrale de pekin a l hotel internationnal. ya des depart 2 fois par semaine, le mercredi et le samedi.
sinon bonne adresse a pekin, candy inn guest house.
www.candyinn.com
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sophie marguery
Salut,
Je suis aussi a Pekin, mais je vais prendre la premiere option que vous aviez choisi, nettement moins cher.
Et pour ceux que ca interesse, je confirme qu'il est possible de faire le visa russe 1 mois a Pekin 350 yuan.
Bonne route a vous Bambou, et si vous avez des plans interessants sur le retour, je suis preneur de toutes infos vu que maintenant c'est vous qui etes devant :)
Biz
Allo Karasamba,
je prévois faire le Transmongolian en septembre/octobre 2011. J'aimerais savoir où et comment vous avez obtenu votre VISA Russe à Pékin. Combien de temps ca vous a prit?Est-ce à l'ambassade de la Russie?
Merci
Merci
Oui.
350 yuan pour 5 jours (en ce moment, mon passport est la bas). T'as besoin du voucher et attestation d'assurance.
620 pour un jour.
A plus
salut, nous voila a ulan bator, ub guest house est une bonne adresse, de plus ils viennent vous chercher a la gare, s occupe des billets ( 60 euros de ub a irkurtz en 2eme classe)
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sophie 🙂
sophie marguery
Salut,
Merci c'est noté pour UB guest house.
Bon voyage
Sinon, petite erreur pour le visa russe à Pekin, il faut en fait 15 jours et c'est 315 yuan.
Bonjour,
Je viens de tomber sur cette conversation après des recherches sur les visas et le transsibérien, ça aide, alors voici un petit partage d'infos supplémentaires de ce que nous venons d'apprendre. Nous voyageons en vélo depuis 9 mois et rentrons en Europe par le transsibérien. Nous sommes donc à Pékin depuis une semaine, et tous les renseignements sont pris, tous frais, avril 2011. Pour le visa russe à Pékin, ça doit dépendre de la nationalité! On a lu que des français avaient pu obtenir un visa de 30 jours, pour nous, belges, c'est impossible, nous n'avons pu obtenir qu'un visa de transit de 10 jours, train compris, à dates fixes! Il faut le billet de train (normalement aussi sortie du territoire russe, mais elle a accepté celui seulement jusque Moscou, on a dit qu'on réserverait là-bas), une copie de l'assurance, copie du passeport et du visa chinois, et une photo. 630 yuans pour l'obtenir le jour-même, sans doute la moitié en 5 jours, nous n'avions plus le temps après nos recherches, :( Le visa mongol est facile à obtenir, pour le transit, il faut d'abord avoir le visa russe. Transit, +_ 200 yuans en 5 jours, 315 en une journée (lendemain), si visa de 30 jours, +- 490 yuans, je ne sais plus si c'est en rapide, faut vérifier... Et pour le transsibérien, même que vous, CITS, malheureusement, avec ce visa de transit, nous ne pouvions pas décomposer le voyage qui le rend moins cher (et avec les vélos on essaie de se simplifier la tâche et de ne pas changer 10 fois de train). Deux trains par semaine, le chinois le mercredi, un peu moins cher, à +- 3900 yuans, et le russe le samedi, à 4122 yuans, Pékin-Moscou en hard sleeper. Nous n'avons pas vu de troisième classe, mais en prenant plusieurs trains, plus de possiblités moins chères. Ca doit être possible d'obtenir un visa russe à Oulan Bator, mais nous avions lu aussi que pour certains, ils n'ont obtenu qu'un visa de transit, à vérifier selon les nationalités une fois de plus... Voilà, si ça peut aider, tant mieux, et bonne chance dans votre voyage, nous prenons le train le 9, hé hé, on est à la fois impatients et un poil stressés pour les vélos, mais dans tous les cas, une fois dedans, ça devrait être un tout beau voyage... Beau retour et suite à vous,
Claire et Jean-Lou
noussommespartisfaireuntour.com
Je viens de tomber sur cette conversation après des recherches sur les visas et le transsibérien, ça aide, alors voici un petit partage d'infos supplémentaires de ce que nous venons d'apprendre. Nous voyageons en vélo depuis 9 mois et rentrons en Europe par le transsibérien. Nous sommes donc à Pékin depuis une semaine, et tous les renseignements sont pris, tous frais, avril 2011. Pour le visa russe à Pékin, ça doit dépendre de la nationalité! On a lu que des français avaient pu obtenir un visa de 30 jours, pour nous, belges, c'est impossible, nous n'avons pu obtenir qu'un visa de transit de 10 jours, train compris, à dates fixes! Il faut le billet de train (normalement aussi sortie du territoire russe, mais elle a accepté celui seulement jusque Moscou, on a dit qu'on réserverait là-bas), une copie de l'assurance, copie du passeport et du visa chinois, et une photo. 630 yuans pour l'obtenir le jour-même, sans doute la moitié en 5 jours, nous n'avions plus le temps après nos recherches, :( Le visa mongol est facile à obtenir, pour le transit, il faut d'abord avoir le visa russe. Transit, +_ 200 yuans en 5 jours, 315 en une journée (lendemain), si visa de 30 jours, +- 490 yuans, je ne sais plus si c'est en rapide, faut vérifier... Et pour le transsibérien, même que vous, CITS, malheureusement, avec ce visa de transit, nous ne pouvions pas décomposer le voyage qui le rend moins cher (et avec les vélos on essaie de se simplifier la tâche et de ne pas changer 10 fois de train). Deux trains par semaine, le chinois le mercredi, un peu moins cher, à +- 3900 yuans, et le russe le samedi, à 4122 yuans, Pékin-Moscou en hard sleeper. Nous n'avons pas vu de troisième classe, mais en prenant plusieurs trains, plus de possiblités moins chères. Ca doit être possible d'obtenir un visa russe à Oulan Bator, mais nous avions lu aussi que pour certains, ils n'ont obtenu qu'un visa de transit, à vérifier selon les nationalités une fois de plus... Voilà, si ça peut aider, tant mieux, et bonne chance dans votre voyage, nous prenons le train le 9, hé hé, on est à la fois impatients et un poil stressés pour les vélos, mais dans tous les cas, une fois dedans, ça devrait être un tout beau voyage... Beau retour et suite à vous,
Claire et Jean-Lou
noussommespartisfaireuntour.com
petit conseil pour ulan bator, attention aux pickspockets surtout au black market et a la gare ( meme dans le train) tant que le train n est pas partit asseyez vous et gardez vos affaire pres de vous car il y de faux passagers qui proposent de vous aider a vous installer et pendant ce temps vous font les poches. pour les reconnaitre regardez ceux qui n ont pas de bagages et pas de billets a la main, nous on a eu chaud aux plumes)) mais par contre une dame que l on a rencontre n a pas eue cette chance.((
petit guest house sympa a irkustk # le baikailer#
tarif transsiberien irkustk moscow en cabine pour 4 c est 200 euros par pers en 2eme classe ou alors en 3eme classe 80 euros, ya des departs tous les soirs.
sophie marguery
salut, nous sommes de retour chez nous en thailande, par contre pour rentrer nous avons pris l avion, nous gardons un super souvenir du transsiberien, surtout le train chinois qui est encore mieux))))) et toi ou es tu??? alors la mongolie c est super beau hein)) bonne continuation de voyage
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sophie😉
sophie marguery
Salut,
Ca y est de retour ?
Vous avez été rapides ! Combien de temps etes vous reste en mongolie ? Ca vous a plu ?
Moi j'ai fait oulan olgiy en stop pres de la frontiere khazak. 2000 bornes epiques :) Là je suis en estonie et etant fatigue, je ne vais peut etre pas rentrer jusqu'au senegal où je vivais mais m'arreter en france.
Ca fait combien de temps que t'es en thailande ? C'est super ce que tu y as fait.
Bonne continuation.
hello)))) on est reste que 3 jours en mongolie; on a fais le trajet en 25 jours, je vis en thailande depuis 20 ans, j aime ce pays))) tu peux me rejoindre sur facebook a ( sophie marguery) si tu y est, je met regulierement des photos de l asso, des villages, des petits parraines et aussi du voyage en transsiberian))) on a adorer le voyage mais notre coup de coeur reste quand meme la thailande, "ah ma chere thailande comme je l aime"))))) contente d etre rentreé
et toi que fais tu au senegal?? bonne continuation
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I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted. Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used? Thanks in advance! Charlie
Hello,
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region. After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani? Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Thanks for your tips!
Fred
Hi! I arrive in Vancouver on August 24, 2025, and I’m staying until Friday, August 29, 2025—the day I take *The Canadian* train to Toronto.
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
I’m exploring several things in Vancouver, including whale watching—if you’ve got any great tips, don’t hesitate! Thanks!
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
Hi
Have any of you booked tickets through rail.ninja?
Hi there,
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)