Safari Kenya - Tanzanie en février
by Dadouk
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
😎 Bonjour, j'habite au Québec et nous pensons faire une safari en février 2014 avec Transat Découvertes. Je sais que ce voyage est vendu aussi en Europe. Est-ce que quelqu'un l'a déjà fait ? Les lodges ont l'air très bien mais les distances sont longues entre les endroits à voir. Est-ce une bonne période de l'année ?
merci
Danielle
Dadou
Djambo Danielle,
Février est une bonne période pour voir la grande migration des gnous en Tanzanie, dans le Sud du Serengeti et dans la région de Ndutu et pour voir les oiseaux. Les pistes peuvent être boueuses et les animaux sont plus dispersés qu'en été.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
Février est une bonne période pour voir la grande migration des gnous en Tanzanie, dans le Sud du Serengeti et dans la région de Ndutu et pour voir les oiseaux. Les pistes peuvent être boueuses et les animaux sont plus dispersés qu'en été.
Safari njema! Bon voyage !
BL
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
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Février est une bonne période. Quels parcs souhaites tu visiter ?
C'est vrai que les distances peuvent être longues et fatigantes, je te conseil de faire maximum 3 jours de safaris.
Nous y avons vécus pendant six mois et avons expérimenté différentes formules de safaris et visiter d'autre lieux du pays. Je te met un lien vers notre blog et notre dernier article consacré aux safaris. Ce qu'il faut savoir avant de partir et comment organiser au mieux ton voyage. http://detourlocal.com/safaris-en-tanzanie/
J'espère que ça va t'aider N'hésites pas si tu as des questions
Alizé
Nous y avons vécus pendant six mois et avons expérimenté différentes formules de safaris et visiter d'autre lieux du pays. Je te met un lien vers notre blog et notre dernier article consacré aux safaris. Ce qu'il faut savoir avant de partir et comment organiser au mieux ton voyage. http://detourlocal.com/safaris-en-tanzanie/
J'espère que ça va t'aider N'hésites pas si tu as des questions
Alizé
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Merci beaucoup de ta réponse. C'est vraiment chouette ton blog
Je te laisse les options que nous avons à date.
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La première est assez rempli. Ce qui me fait peur un peu. Nous pensons prendre une extension de 3 nuits à Zanzibar
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La première est assez rempli. Ce qui me fait peur un peu. Nous pensons prendre une extension de 3 nuits à Zanzibar
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Dadou
Les deux options semblent très intéressantes, mais en effet c'est beaucoup en peu de temps. Le problème avec celui qui travers le Kenya et la Tanzanie, c'est la longue route à faire en seulement 12 jours. J'opterais plus pour l'option 1 avec un extension Zanzibar et éviter un peu de traverser deux pays. Il y a, à mon avis, un peu trop de safaris sur le forfait kenya-tanzanie. La première option semble plus concise, mais les déplacements sont moins longs. Avec un ajout Zanzibar, tu es partis pour des vacances mémorables.
Merci pour les bons mots sur notre blog...
Merci pour les bons mots sur notre blog...
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Merci encore une fois pour ta réponse. C'est très apprécié.
Nous appelons notre agente demain et si il y a encore de la place, nous réserverons la première option. Si nous aimons l'expérience de la Tanzanie, le Kenya viendra plus tard.
Bon vent
Dadou
Bonjour,
les lodges proposés par transat découvertes sont du haut de gamme; les distances sont parfois importante, mais il n'y a pas d'autre choix. Février est la saison sèche et chaude.
cordialement JOEL
les lodges proposés par transat découvertes sont du haut de gamme; les distances sont parfois importante, mais il n'y a pas d'autre choix. Février est la saison sèche et chaude.
cordialement JOEL
(guerlais)
Je ne suis absolument pas d'accord avec vous, 3 jours de safaris c'est bien trop peu pour voir tous ce qu'il y a à voir comme faune, flore et paysages. J'ai vu sur votre site que vous êtes un TO ou une agence, je ne sais pas trop, débutante et plutôt axée sur autre chose que les safaris mais ne découragez pas ceux qui veulent voir le maximum d'animaux et prendre du plaisir à les chercher durant les game drive.
... J'ai vu sur votre site que vous êtes un TO ou une agence, je ne sais pas trop, débutante et plutôt axée sur autre chose que les safaris mais ne découragez pas ceux qui veulent voir le maximum d'animaux et prendre du plaisir à les chercher durant les game drive.
Chère Mimi, Merci d'avoir visiter notre site web et de le comparer à celui d'une agence (qui ont souvent un énorme budget pour ce genre de truc). Je prends le compliment volontier. Cependant, je suis un peu déçu que tu n'as pas pris le temps de lire notre page à propos (je te mets le lien ici: www.detourlocal.com/a-propos) tu pourras y lire que nous sommes deux passionés de voyage et qu'en effet nous venons de débuter notre blog, mais aucune agence encore ne travaille pour ou avec nous. On est 100% indépendant et si un jour on devrait travailler pour une agence, il serait indiqué clairement pour ne pas flouer les lecteurs.
Ceci étant dit, tu peux être en désaccord avec nous, chacun à le droit à son avis, mais je n'accepte en aucun cas le salissage de notre intégrité. Qui est en plus librement injustifié.
Nous avons personnellement fait les safaris, au plein prix, sans rabais ou affiliation avec des agences, et nous voulons partager nos opinions et compte-rendu de voyage afin d'aider les gens à faire le meilleur choix possible. En aucun cas, nous voulons d'écourager quiconque, au contraire on est tombé en amour (dans les deux sens du terme: un envers l'autre et avec le pays) avec la Tanzanie et on veut justement aider les gens à se démeller dans toutes les offres et l'information venant majoritairement des agences justement, afin qu'il puisse profiter pleinement de leur passage au pays de simba.
Sans rancune, mais la prochaine fois faut pas sauter au plafond svp!!!
Bonne soirée
Maxime et Alizé
Chère Mimi, Merci d'avoir visiter notre site web et de le comparer à celui d'une agence (qui ont souvent un énorme budget pour ce genre de truc). Je prends le compliment volontier. Cependant, je suis un peu déçu que tu n'as pas pris le temps de lire notre page à propos (je te mets le lien ici: www.detourlocal.com/a-propos) tu pourras y lire que nous sommes deux passionés de voyage et qu'en effet nous venons de débuter notre blog, mais aucune agence encore ne travaille pour ou avec nous. On est 100% indépendant et si un jour on devrait travailler pour une agence, il serait indiqué clairement pour ne pas flouer les lecteurs.
Ceci étant dit, tu peux être en désaccord avec nous, chacun à le droit à son avis, mais je n'accepte en aucun cas le salissage de notre intégrité. Qui est en plus librement injustifié.
Nous avons personnellement fait les safaris, au plein prix, sans rabais ou affiliation avec des agences, et nous voulons partager nos opinions et compte-rendu de voyage afin d'aider les gens à faire le meilleur choix possible. En aucun cas, nous voulons d'écourager quiconque, au contraire on est tombé en amour (dans les deux sens du terme: un envers l'autre et avec le pays) avec la Tanzanie et on veut justement aider les gens à se démeller dans toutes les offres et l'information venant majoritairement des agences justement, afin qu'il puisse profiter pleinement de leur passage au pays de simba.
Sans rancune, mais la prochaine fois faut pas sauter au plafond svp!!!
Bonne soirée
Maxime et Alizé
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En tout cas, pour nous vous m'avez bien aidé pour me retrouver dans toute les offres. Nous avons réservé avec Transat Découvertes ce soir et nous allons savoir lundi si tout est OK. Je pense que faire seulement la Tanzanie cette fois-ci est un bon choix.
Un bonsoir du Québec
Dadou
Salissage de votre intégrité .... Où ça ?. Je pose juste des questions comme chacun doit se les poser c'est tout.
Je ne grimpe pas aux rideaux ... sinon vous l'auriez senti dans le ton de ma réponse !!!.
Oui chacun a le droit de faire ce qu'il veut, mais sur tous les sites de forums vous dites que 3 jours de safaris c'est assez ... moi j'appelle ça du matraquage, non ?. Mais là aussi vous avez le droit, comme j'ai le droit de poser des questions et de dire que je ne suis pas d'accord.
Mais bravo pour votre site, il est très bien fait.
Peut-être aurais-je l'occasion de préparer un voyage différent avec vous.
bonjour Danielle,
tout comme Mimi48, 3 jours de safari me semblent insuffisants, je tournerai autour de 6 à 7. Mais je sais aussi qu'un jour de safari coûte cher.
tout comme Mimi48, 3 jours de safari me semblent insuffisants, je tournerai autour de 6 à 7. Mais je sais aussi qu'un jour de safari coûte cher.
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... J'ai vu sur votre site que vous êtes un TO ou une agence, je ne sais pas trop, ... ne découragez pas ceux qui veulent voir le maximum d'animaux et prendre du plaisir à les chercher durant les game drive.
Quand on est pas d'accord avec les propos de quelqu'un et qu'on affirme une raison bidon et surtout fortement injustifiée pour tenter de casser l'intégrité de ses dires, ça ressemble un peu à du salissage tu ne trouves pas? Comme un politicien qui ne répond pas à la question, mais se contente de rabaisser l'autre sans rien apporter à la discussion.
Je crois que pour le bienfaits de la discussion de ce forum, Mimi et Jocelyne, j'aimerais bien entendre votre point de vue justifié sur les raisons qui vous poussent à affirmer qu'il faut un minimum de 6 à 7 jours pour qu'un safari doit être suffisant. Des expériences personnelles pour le prouver? Vous vous basez sur quoi pour affirmer ça? Nous sommes également très intéressés par votre réponse, une opinion divergeante qui est justifiée apporte une autre dimension qu'on aurait jamais peut-être pu penser. Mais malheureusement le fait que d'affirmer qu'on a tort et que ce qu'on dit est décourageant (!?!) pour les gens de ce forum, ça reste un peu inutile à mon avis.
Petit rappel, nous affirmons qu'après 3 jours de safaris, vous en aurez suffisament vu pour être heureux et retourner à la maison le coeur remplit de souvenirs mémorables. Par expérience personnelle, après une journée à se faire brasser la cage, on ne regardait plus avec le même enthousiasme les animaux qui le matin même nous faisait sauter de joie. Mais c'est peut-être notre génération de consommation rapide qui parle, qui sais. Mais en effet, le lendemain avec un safari bateau ou à pied, ça a rendu l'expérience différente et nous a fait voir un autre point de vue intéressant.
Également, nous avions un budget limité et pour nous s'offrir 6-7 jours de safaris, c'était littéralement hors de prix.
Dans l'attente de lire votre point de vue justifié à toutes deux.
Maxime
Quand on est pas d'accord avec les propos de quelqu'un et qu'on affirme une raison bidon et surtout fortement injustifiée pour tenter de casser l'intégrité de ses dires, ça ressemble un peu à du salissage tu ne trouves pas? Comme un politicien qui ne répond pas à la question, mais se contente de rabaisser l'autre sans rien apporter à la discussion.
Je crois que pour le bienfaits de la discussion de ce forum, Mimi et Jocelyne, j'aimerais bien entendre votre point de vue justifié sur les raisons qui vous poussent à affirmer qu'il faut un minimum de 6 à 7 jours pour qu'un safari doit être suffisant. Des expériences personnelles pour le prouver? Vous vous basez sur quoi pour affirmer ça? Nous sommes également très intéressés par votre réponse, une opinion divergeante qui est justifiée apporte une autre dimension qu'on aurait jamais peut-être pu penser. Mais malheureusement le fait que d'affirmer qu'on a tort et que ce qu'on dit est décourageant (!?!) pour les gens de ce forum, ça reste un peu inutile à mon avis.
Petit rappel, nous affirmons qu'après 3 jours de safaris, vous en aurez suffisament vu pour être heureux et retourner à la maison le coeur remplit de souvenirs mémorables. Par expérience personnelle, après une journée à se faire brasser la cage, on ne regardait plus avec le même enthousiasme les animaux qui le matin même nous faisait sauter de joie. Mais c'est peut-être notre génération de consommation rapide qui parle, qui sais. Mais en effet, le lendemain avec un safari bateau ou à pied, ça a rendu l'expérience différente et nous a fait voir un autre point de vue intéressant.
Également, nous avions un budget limité et pour nous s'offrir 6-7 jours de safaris, c'était littéralement hors de prix.
Dans l'attente de lire votre point de vue justifié à toutes deux.
Maxime
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Des expériences personnelles pour le prouver? Vous vous basez sur quoi pour affirmer ça?
Il suffit de lire les carnets de voyage qui existent sur ce forum (Le mien par exemple ! 😄) pour s'apercevoir que 3 jours de safari, c'est nettement insuffisant...
Du moins quand on aime ça.
Après, si le voyageur est du type collectionneur d'activités et qu'il n'aime pas laisser le temps au temps, 1 jour sera suffisant.
Ou une visite dans un Zoo.
Il suffit de lire les carnets de voyage qui existent sur ce forum (Le mien par exemple ! 😄) pour s'apercevoir que 3 jours de safari, c'est nettement insuffisant...
Du moins quand on aime ça.
Après, si le voyageur est du type collectionneur d'activités et qu'il n'aime pas laisser le temps au temps, 1 jour sera suffisant.
Ou une visite dans un Zoo.
Dans la citation de mes propos je ne vois pas ou est le salissage mais si c'est votre impression .....
Oui je parle avec ma petites expérience : 2 safaris.
Le premier en Tanzanie, de 7 jours avec les principaux parcs du nord : Tarangire (une merveille) Manyara, N'gorongoro et Serengeti. Avoir su je serais restée plus longtemps au Tarangire car nous n'en avons vu qu'une petite partie et je ne parle pas du Serengeti.
Le second, nous en revenons, le Kenya cette fois. 14 jours .... et j'aurais continué !!!. Samburu (le rêve, Nakuru pour les rhinos, Naivasha et Masai Mara)
Il n'y a pas que les animaux, il y a les paysages, les arbres, les fleurs (Quand il y en a !!) les gens croisés, les safaris à pied et les photos. C'est peut-être ça la différence entre les voyageurs, je ne sais pas. Mais apprendre à chercher un léopard ou un guépard grâce aux commentaires du guide ... ça devient un jeu et même si on se fait brasser dans tous les sens durant les 5 ou 6 heures partagées entre le matin et le soir, je regrette mais j'en prends plein de jours. Et les photos que l'on fait, lorsqu'on l'a trouvé "LA" bestiole que l'on cherchait fait partie de mes meilleurs souvenirs, mais il y a celui des lionceaux les pattes en l'air, celui de ce grand mâle sûr de lui qui passe tranquillement devant la voiture, ces girafes qui nous regardent dans les yeux (!!), ces zèbres partout, ces gnous niaiseux et tous ces éléphants et autres cobes, gazelles, oiseaux, etc... 3 jours ???. Non 3 semaines pour moi. Au total entre mon mari et moi 7000 photos et chacune un souvenir. Mais maintenant il faut trier tout ça !!!.
Attilan, tu préfères avec un TO ou à l'arrache avec un 4x4 et louer des trucs sur place? Ça dépend du temps et du budget qu'on a aussi. J'aurais bien aimé accompagner un guide qui faisait du repérage dans un nouveau parc moins connu, mais mon visa et voyage tirait à leur fin. Dans l'absolu, je serais rester un mois dans un parc à vivre au jour le jour avec des installations rustiques, mais un voyage safari, organisé par un TO c'est souvent maximiser à fond et du coup c'est dur de laisser le temps au temps. Mais en effet, je suis d'accord que d'organiser tout soi-même sur place nous permet peut-être de voir plus, en plus de jour, mais sur un rythme différent. Mais encore là ce n'est pas tout le monde qui a le temps et les ressources pour organiser un tel voyage.
Par curiosité, comment facile c'est de s'organiser un 4x4 et de faire le safari soi-même? Besoin d'un guide? C'est sécuritaire: côté vol et animaux? Merci des infos
Maxime
Par curiosité, comment facile c'est de s'organiser un 4x4 et de faire le safari soi-même? Besoin d'un guide? C'est sécuritaire: côté vol et animaux? Merci des infos
Maxime
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Mimi, inspirant en effet. Par curiosité les ordres de prix pour tes voyages? Chacun incluait combien de jours de safaris?
En effet traquer la bête et tout l'ambiance y est complètement magique. Les paysages de l'Afrique de l'Est sont tout simplement à couper le souffle, safaris ou pas. Mais c'est pas seulement la durée, mais également le lieu, la période de l'année, l'intérêt du voyage et le budget qui compte pour beaucoup aussi.
En effet traquer la bête et tout l'ambiance y est complètement magique. Les paysages de l'Afrique de l'Est sont tout simplement à couper le souffle, safaris ou pas. Mais c'est pas seulement la durée, mais également le lieu, la période de l'année, l'intérêt du voyage et le budget qui compte pour beaucoup aussi.
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Oui les 2 safaris ont coûté cher mais nous avons des contraintes à cause de problèmes de santé, donc pas de camping sous la tente pour nous .... ça change déjà le prix !!!.
Pour les 7 jours en Tanzanie, réservés avec un TO de Montréal : 3500$ (canadiens) sans le vol evidemment !!. Cher, trop cher pour les services rendus .... on change de stratégie !!!.
Pour les 14 jours au Kenya, TO sur place (à Naivasha exactement et en plus dans le sanctuaire) 3600 euros sans vol non plus.
La différence principale vient du 2ème TO qui est aussi guide et qui nous a montré de multiples facettes du Kenya, nous a montré les champs de thé (superbes) et de café, nous a aussi parlé des obligations des employeurs mais aussi des salaires de misères et de l'exploitation de certains travailleurs et je ne parle pas des femmes qui n'ont strictement aucune valeur. Bref ce fut un safari magnifique mais aussi autre chose et ça c'est le petit plus.
Voilà en effet un point soulevé très intéressant. Lorsqu'on peut se le permettre (obligation de temps souvent) c'est mieux de s'organiser un TO ou un guide sur place. On économise beaucoup et ça nous permet de "magasiner" un peu plus les agences. Ceci étant dit, plusieurs TO à distance peuvent être et sont très compétents. Je crois qu'en leur posant un peu plus de questions et en s'interrogeant plus sur les itinéraires proposés et surtout les alternatives possibles, ça augmente nos chances de vivre un voyage à leur hauteur de nos attentes.
Et le deuxième point également, c'est concernant la qualité du guide. On en discute dans notre article, que s'il est possible de rencontrer son guide soit par courriel, téléphone ou sur place (de préférence) ça permet de voir si on clic avec lui ou pas. A mon avis, le guide en est pour 50% voir même 60% du succès de votre safaris (ou toute autre activité organisée par le fait même).
Maxime -- Pour ceux que ça pourrait intéresser, je remets le lien vers notre article sur les safaris en Tanzanie: http://detourlocal.com/safaris-en-tanzanie/
Et le deuxième point également, c'est concernant la qualité du guide. On en discute dans notre article, que s'il est possible de rencontrer son guide soit par courriel, téléphone ou sur place (de préférence) ça permet de voir si on clic avec lui ou pas. A mon avis, le guide en est pour 50% voir même 60% du succès de votre safaris (ou toute autre activité organisée par le fait même).
Maxime -- Pour ceux que ça pourrait intéresser, je remets le lien vers notre article sur les safaris en Tanzanie: http://detourlocal.com/safaris-en-tanzanie/
Détour Local > Voyager avec nous, c’est partir à la découverte du savoir, des saveurs, des lieux et des connaissances de part le monde.
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Bonjour,
Votre article sur les safaris est sympa, comme l'ensemble de votre blog, et bien présenté. Il comporte de petites erreurs factuelles que vous pourrez facilement corriger, genre le Selous est une réserve de gibier (Game Reserve), pas un parc national (National Park), le Ngorongoro n'est pas une vallée, c'est une aire de conservation (Conservation Area) montagneuse et volcanique, avec entre autres cratères, celui qui a donné son nom à l'aire. Le Selous ne se résume pas à des tentes sommaires, il héberge des camps de grand luxe et est tout à fait intéressant en janvier et février, nous y sommes allés 3 fois à cette période sans pâtir de la météo. Les meilleurs mois pour les oiseaux sont d'ailleurs janvier et février pas mars... Rien de grave, hakuna matata, mais ce qui me fait surtout réagir, c'est votre appréciation sur la durée optimale d'un safari animalier, trois jours pour vous, et sur la lassitude supposée s'installer après cette courte durée.
Mais encore plus, après un certain moment, l’effet euphorique retombé, on se lasse (aussi étonnement que ça puisse paraître) de revoir les mêmes animaux ou de prendre les mêmes genres de chemins.
J'ai des tas de contre-exemple, en fait, je n'ai jamais rencontré ou eu de témoignages, à part les vôtres, de personnes lassées après 3 jours. Le fait que vous vous soyez lassés après trois jours ôte beaucoup de pertinence à votre article, cela le disqualifie même à mes yeux, vous avez sans doute eu une (très courte) mauvaise expérience...
Cordialement
Bernard
Votre article sur les safaris est sympa, comme l'ensemble de votre blog, et bien présenté. Il comporte de petites erreurs factuelles que vous pourrez facilement corriger, genre le Selous est une réserve de gibier (Game Reserve), pas un parc national (National Park), le Ngorongoro n'est pas une vallée, c'est une aire de conservation (Conservation Area) montagneuse et volcanique, avec entre autres cratères, celui qui a donné son nom à l'aire. Le Selous ne se résume pas à des tentes sommaires, il héberge des camps de grand luxe et est tout à fait intéressant en janvier et février, nous y sommes allés 3 fois à cette période sans pâtir de la météo. Les meilleurs mois pour les oiseaux sont d'ailleurs janvier et février pas mars... Rien de grave, hakuna matata, mais ce qui me fait surtout réagir, c'est votre appréciation sur la durée optimale d'un safari animalier, trois jours pour vous, et sur la lassitude supposée s'installer après cette courte durée.
Mais encore plus, après un certain moment, l’effet euphorique retombé, on se lasse (aussi étonnement que ça puisse paraître) de revoir les mêmes animaux ou de prendre les mêmes genres de chemins.
J'ai des tas de contre-exemple, en fait, je n'ai jamais rencontré ou eu de témoignages, à part les vôtres, de personnes lassées après 3 jours. Le fait que vous vous soyez lassés après trois jours ôte beaucoup de pertinence à votre article, cela le disqualifie même à mes yeux, vous avez sans doute eu une (très courte) mauvaise expérience...
Cordialement
Bernard
safari photo en Tanzanie et ailleurs https://safari-tanzanie.fr
WILIPI photographie animalière
tu préfères avec un TO ou à l'arrache avec un 4x4 et louer des trucs sur place?
Je m'organise par moi -même donc sans TO mais à l'avance. Par ailleurs, il existe des pays où il n'y a pas besoin de 4X4 pour organiser un safari.
un voyage safari, organisé par un TO c'est souvent maximiser à fond
Et finalement ne rien voir...
les ressources pour organiser un tel voyage.
Un circuit en groupe premier prix organisé par les TO sera effectivement très bon marché.
Mais ce genre de circuit, c'est minibus voire bus dans certains pays et plus de temps consacré aux transports qu'aux visites.
Le lion à droite, la girafe à gauche, pause pipi 5 minutes, rendez pour le déjeuner à 1200, attention sortez les appareils photos l'éléphant va apparaitre à onze heures, Non Monsieur on ne peut pas rester un quart d'heure de plus à contempler les gazelles, y a le léopard qui nous attend...
Un circuit individuel organisé par les TO sera lui plus cher qu'un circuit organisé par le voyageur lui-même. Et plus ce circuit sera individualisé, plus la différence entre TO et home made sera importante.
Par curiosité, comment facile c'est de s'organiser un 4x4 et de faire le safari soi-même? Besoin d'un guide? C'est sécuritaire: côté vol et animaux?
C'est très facile en AFS, facile en Namibie. Moyen facile au Botswana à cause de l'état des pistes qui demande une bonne connaissance en conduite 4X4 et parce que la réservation ne se fait pas en un clic de souris.
Pour le Kenya et la Tanzanie, la difficulté c'est de trouver un loueur fiable à un tarif correct. La réservation des hébergements est aussi moins aisée . Je n'ai pas encore testé ces deux pays car financièrement, ce n'est pas le même budget.
Enfin, le safari peut aussi s'envisager en Zambie et au Zimbabwe.
Je m'organise par moi -même donc sans TO mais à l'avance. Par ailleurs, il existe des pays où il n'y a pas besoin de 4X4 pour organiser un safari.
un voyage safari, organisé par un TO c'est souvent maximiser à fond
Et finalement ne rien voir...
les ressources pour organiser un tel voyage.
Un circuit en groupe premier prix organisé par les TO sera effectivement très bon marché.
Mais ce genre de circuit, c'est minibus voire bus dans certains pays et plus de temps consacré aux transports qu'aux visites.
Le lion à droite, la girafe à gauche, pause pipi 5 minutes, rendez pour le déjeuner à 1200, attention sortez les appareils photos l'éléphant va apparaitre à onze heures, Non Monsieur on ne peut pas rester un quart d'heure de plus à contempler les gazelles, y a le léopard qui nous attend...
Un circuit individuel organisé par les TO sera lui plus cher qu'un circuit organisé par le voyageur lui-même. Et plus ce circuit sera individualisé, plus la différence entre TO et home made sera importante.
Par curiosité, comment facile c'est de s'organiser un 4x4 et de faire le safari soi-même? Besoin d'un guide? C'est sécuritaire: côté vol et animaux?
C'est très facile en AFS, facile en Namibie. Moyen facile au Botswana à cause de l'état des pistes qui demande une bonne connaissance en conduite 4X4 et parce que la réservation ne se fait pas en un clic de souris.
Pour le Kenya et la Tanzanie, la difficulté c'est de trouver un loueur fiable à un tarif correct. La réservation des hébergements est aussi moins aisée . Je n'ai pas encore testé ces deux pays car financièrement, ce n'est pas le même budget.
Enfin, le safari peut aussi s'envisager en Zambie et au Zimbabwe.
Merci des bons points Bernard,
Nous avons corrigés le tir sur la plupart d'eux.
Après une grande lecture, à ce qui attrait au 3 jours, qui semble le coeur du sujet ici, en effet, le ton qui est dégagé du texte reste celui que 3 jours c'est suffisant car plus c'est trop. Ce qui n'est pas ce qu'on tentait d'exprimer.
Peut-être qu'en effet nos expériences n'étaient pas à la hauteur de nos attentes. Peut-être qu'on est pas des voyageurs experts de safaris? On est des gens normaux et comme la majorité de ceux rencontrés sur place (lors de nos safaris ou ailleurs pendant notre séjour en Tanzanie), l'opinion générale est que si on réussit à voir tous les animaux de notre liste la première journée, ou dans les premières heures, il y a, en effet, un diminution du WOW des premiers instants. C'est vrai que d'être "lasser" c'est un peu fort comme mot (et ceci a été révisé sur notre texte).
Mais ça reste que pour le commun des voyageurs ou ceux qui n'ont jamais faits de safari, 10 jours complets que de safaris en jeep c'est peut-être beaucoup ou du moins il devrait être avertis de ce que ça implique. Le confort des jeeps que nous avons eus n'ont rien à voir avec les jeep "plateforme" des safaris plus luxueux. Du coup, être debout ou assez coincé a se faire brasser, c'est quand même du sport, il faut se l'avouer. Je n'ai pas expérimenter le type plateforme, peut-être qu'en effet c'est plus agréable... Oui, plus de temps, ça veut dire plus de chance de rencontrer des éléments hors de l'ordinaire que la girafe qui broutte au loin ou du lion qui se pavane devant la file de jeeps et qui regarde de l'autre côté quand il est tanné. (beaucoup entendu cette histoire et vécu personnellement). Peut-être qu'en effet, n'ayant pas fait une plus longue durée de safari, nous ne pouvons pas affirmer un tel propos, c'est vrai (et corrigé sur notre site), mais ça reste que les "nouveaux" des safaris doivent comprendre ce que ça implique.
Ceci étant dit, on s'entend pour dire, qu'en effet moins de 3 jours, ça vous laisse sur votre appétit.
Dans l'espoir que notre article augmente en pertinence à tes yeux...
Cordialement,
Maxime
Après une grande lecture, à ce qui attrait au 3 jours, qui semble le coeur du sujet ici, en effet, le ton qui est dégagé du texte reste celui que 3 jours c'est suffisant car plus c'est trop. Ce qui n'est pas ce qu'on tentait d'exprimer.
Peut-être qu'en effet nos expériences n'étaient pas à la hauteur de nos attentes. Peut-être qu'on est pas des voyageurs experts de safaris? On est des gens normaux et comme la majorité de ceux rencontrés sur place (lors de nos safaris ou ailleurs pendant notre séjour en Tanzanie), l'opinion générale est que si on réussit à voir tous les animaux de notre liste la première journée, ou dans les premières heures, il y a, en effet, un diminution du WOW des premiers instants. C'est vrai que d'être "lasser" c'est un peu fort comme mot (et ceci a été révisé sur notre texte).
Mais ça reste que pour le commun des voyageurs ou ceux qui n'ont jamais faits de safari, 10 jours complets que de safaris en jeep c'est peut-être beaucoup ou du moins il devrait être avertis de ce que ça implique. Le confort des jeeps que nous avons eus n'ont rien à voir avec les jeep "plateforme" des safaris plus luxueux. Du coup, être debout ou assez coincé a se faire brasser, c'est quand même du sport, il faut se l'avouer. Je n'ai pas expérimenter le type plateforme, peut-être qu'en effet c'est plus agréable... Oui, plus de temps, ça veut dire plus de chance de rencontrer des éléments hors de l'ordinaire que la girafe qui broutte au loin ou du lion qui se pavane devant la file de jeeps et qui regarde de l'autre côté quand il est tanné. (beaucoup entendu cette histoire et vécu personnellement). Peut-être qu'en effet, n'ayant pas fait une plus longue durée de safari, nous ne pouvons pas affirmer un tel propos, c'est vrai (et corrigé sur notre site), mais ça reste que les "nouveaux" des safaris doivent comprendre ce que ça implique.
Ceci étant dit, on s'entend pour dire, qu'en effet moins de 3 jours, ça vous laisse sur votre appétit.
Dans l'espoir que notre article augmente en pertinence à tes yeux...
Cordialement,
Maxime
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Merci des infos,
En effet avoir un petit groupe et surtout discuter avec son guide à l'avance ça permet de diminuer les mauvaises surprises. J'en prends bien note, et c'est certain que lors d'un prochain voyage en Tanzanie on devra s'offrir un long voyage de plusieurs jours sans l'aide d'un TO, mais directement avec des guides locaux (avec qui ont a eus des contacts qu'à la fin de notre séjours de 6 mois dans le pays).
Merci à tous pour vos commentaires et ajouts à notre article, dans l'espoir que ça aide un peu les gens a se démêler dans la manne d'information sur le sujet.
Cordialement,
Maxime & Alizé
Merci à tous pour vos commentaires et ajouts à notre article, dans l'espoir que ça aide un peu les gens a se démêler dans la manne d'information sur le sujet.
Cordialement,
Maxime & Alizé
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Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!