merci d'avance de vos conseils.
Séjour de 10 jours en avril 2017: San Francisco - Seattle?
by Jc94
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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A la retraite depuis peu , avec mon épouse nous voulons effectuer un séjour au US du 10 au 20 avril 2017 avec location de voiture .
Nous recherchons un séjour sans trop de marche, 3 /4 étapes maxi sur 10 jours
Nous hésitons entre 2 parcours:
San Francisco - Seattle
ou Seattle- Vancouver (CA).
1) malgré la fraicheur, le climat en cette saison reste il agréable pour visiter ces 2 régions ?
2) quelles sont les étapes recommandées pour ces 2 circuits ? en favorisant de jolis points de vue, des hébergements sympas et confortables etc....
Notre budget n'est pas serré donc moyen à confortable.
Si Avril n'est pas recommandé pour ces régions nous ferons SFO-LA.
merci d'avance de vos conseils.
merci d'avance de vos conseils.
Bonsoir Jean-Claude,
Nous avons fait une boucle à partir de Vancouver. Nous avons passé une semaine sur l'île de Vancouver, et avons visité Olympic NP après avoir pris un ferry de Victoria à Port Angeles. Mais, nous y étions en été.
Regardez les moyennes des températures en avril à Olympic NP, sur ces tableaux en bas de page http://www.roadtrippin.fr/washington/olympic/olympic.php
Bonne nuit !
Nous avons fait une boucle à partir de Vancouver. Nous avons passé une semaine sur l'île de Vancouver, et avons visité Olympic NP après avoir pris un ferry de Victoria à Port Angeles. Mais, nous y étions en été.
Regardez les moyennes des températures en avril à Olympic NP, sur ces tableaux en bas de page http://www.roadtrippin.fr/washington/olympic/olympic.php
Bonne nuit !
Hiacinthe
Hello
L'ennuyeux en cette saison dans cette région, c'est que vous ne pourrez pas visiter les parcs nationaux Lassen Volcanic, Crater Lake et Mount Rainier (qui seront sous la neige). Il sera quand même possible d'avoir un aperçu de Crater Lake (en se rendant au lodge, seule portion de route ouverte normalement) et à Mt Rainier en se rendant dans le secteur de Paradise normalement déneigé (sauf chutes en cours).
Attention, 9 jours sur place c'est cours, il faudra faire des choix cruciaux. Vous pouvez par exemple choisir de longer la côte et faire : SF - Redwoods National Park - côte de l'Oregon - Olympic NP (secteur côtier + Hoh Rain Forest) - départ de Seattle
Bonne préparation.
L'ennuyeux en cette saison dans cette région, c'est que vous ne pourrez pas visiter les parcs nationaux Lassen Volcanic, Crater Lake et Mount Rainier (qui seront sous la neige). Il sera quand même possible d'avoir un aperçu de Crater Lake (en se rendant au lodge, seule portion de route ouverte normalement) et à Mt Rainier en se rendant dans le secteur de Paradise normalement déneigé (sauf chutes en cours).
Attention, 9 jours sur place c'est cours, il faudra faire des choix cruciaux. Vous pouvez par exemple choisir de longer la côte et faire : SF - Redwoods National Park - côte de l'Oregon - Olympic NP (secteur côtier + Hoh Rain Forest) - départ de Seattle
Bonne préparation.
Merci Hiacinthe de votre réponse,
>Devant effectuer le voyage en avril, je pense que nous irons plutôt vers le sud pour avoir des températures un peu plus agréables .
Nous pensons faire faire LA / SFO ou SFO /LA .j'ai vu que Yosemite n'était pas accessible avant juin . Pourrions cependant passer 2 ou nuits d'hotel lodge, dans Sequoia NP, en passant par Fresno par la route 198 entre Grant grove et 3 rivieres ? ou alors par la 178 entre Bakerfield et Weldon. Si vous avez d'autres propositions je suis preneur . merci de votre patience .
JC
Merci Itat de votre réponse,
>Devant effectuer le voyage en avril, je pense que nous irons plutôt vers le sud pour avoir des températures un peu plus agréables .
Nous pensons faire faire LA / SFO ou SFO /LA . 3/4 nuits à SFO , 1/2 Nuits à LA et 2/3 étapes.je peux également rallonger le voyage a 12nuits.
J'ai vu que Yosemite n'était pas accessible avant juin .
Pourrions nous cependant passer 2 ou nuits d'hotel lodge, dans Sequoia NP, en passant par Fresno par la route 198 entre Grant grove et 3 rivieres ? ou alors par la 178 entre Bakerfield et Weldon. Si vous avez d'autres propositions je suis preneur .
merci de votre patience . Cordialement
JC
Merci Hiacinthe de votre réponse,
>Devant effectuer le voyage en avril, je pense que nous irons plutôt vers le sud pour avoir des températures un peu plus agréables .
Nous pensons faire faire LA / SFO ou SFO /LA .j'ai vu que Yosemite n'était pas accessible avant juin . Pourrions cependant passer 2 ou nuits d'hotel lodge, dans Sequoia NP, en passant par Fresno par la route 198 entre Grant grove et 3 rivieres ? ou alors par la 178 entre Bakerfield et Weldon. Si vous avez d'autres propositions je suis preneur . merci de votre patience .
JC
Bonsoir Jean-Claude,
La Yosemite Valley est accessible toute l'année. En revanche, pour traverser le parc d'ouest en est, il faut que la Tioga Road soit ouverte.
Concernant Sequoia NP, ce parc est situé en haute altitude et, en avril, il peut y avoir de la neige, regardez les infos sur le site du parc : https://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/hours.htm
En cas de neige, les chaînes seront nécessaires.
Je vous suggère de longer la côte entre San Francisco et Los Angeles. Et, ensuite, vous iriez à Joshua Tree NP, ce serait la bonne période pour la floraison : https://www.nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/blooms.htm
ou vous pourriez aller dans la Death Valley NP, vous dormiriez dans la parc.
Puis, vous iriez dans Valley of Fire SP, vous passeriez une nuit à Overton au motel "North Shore Inn at Lake Mead" et vous prendriez votre vol du retour à Las Vegas.
Bonne soirée !
Bonsoir Jean-Claude,
La Yosemite Valley est accessible toute l'année. En revanche, pour traverser le parc d'ouest en est, il faut que la Tioga Road soit ouverte.
Concernant Sequoia NP, ce parc est situé en haute altitude et, en avril, il peut y avoir de la neige, regardez les infos sur le site du parc : https://www.nps.gov/seki/planyourvisit/hours.htm
En cas de neige, les chaînes seront nécessaires.
Je vous suggère de longer la côte entre San Francisco et Los Angeles. Et, ensuite, vous iriez à Joshua Tree NP, ce serait la bonne période pour la floraison : https://www.nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/blooms.htm
ou vous pourriez aller dans la Death Valley NP, vous dormiriez dans la parc.
Puis, vous iriez dans Valley of Fire SP, vous passeriez une nuit à Overton au motel "North Shore Inn at Lake Mead" et vous prendriez votre vol du retour à Las Vegas.
Bonne soirée !
Hiacinthe
Hello
Je vous conseille ceci, attention 10 jours, comme dit par JPG c'est court !
SF Côte Pacifique --> Santa Barbara Death Valley NP Las Vegas (possibilité de visiter Valley Of Fire à 1h de route)
Je vous conseille ceci, attention 10 jours, comme dit par JPG c'est court !
SF Côte Pacifique --> Santa Barbara Death Valley NP Las Vegas (possibilité de visiter Valley Of Fire à 1h de route)
Bonjour
Attention vs n'avez que 10 jours...
Connaissez vs déjà SF et LA? si non, vs n'aurez pas le temps de faire grand chose d'autre.
Bonjour Jean-Pierre,
Sur le message n°4, Jean-Claude dit ceci : "3/4 nuits à SFO, 1/2 Nuits à LA ... je peux également rallonger le voyage à 12 nuits."
J1 : arrivée à San Francisco J2 , J3, J4 : San Francisco J5 : San Francisco > Morro Bay J6 : Morro Bay > Los Angeles J7 : Los Angeles J8 : Los Angeles > Joshua Tree NP (nuit à Yucca Valley ou Twentynine Palms) J9 : Yucca Valley ou Twentynine Palms > Death Valley (nuit dans le parc, à Furnace Creek vous seriez plus près de Zabriskie Point pour le lever du soleil) J10 : Death Valley > Las Vegas > fin d'après-midi jusqu'au coucher du soleil à Valley of Fire SP (nuit à Overton au "North Shore Inn At Lake Mead") J11 : retour à Valley of Fire SP le matin de bonne heure pour continuer de l'explorer > après-midi et nuit à Las Vegas J12 : Las Vegas - vol du retour
Cela ferait 4 nuits à San Francisco et 2 nuits à Los Angeles comme il le prévoyait
A+
Christine
Bonjour Jean-Pierre,
Sur le message n°4, Jean-Claude dit ceci : "3/4 nuits à SFO, 1/2 Nuits à LA ... je peux également rallonger le voyage à 12 nuits."
J1 : arrivée à San Francisco J2 , J3, J4 : San Francisco J5 : San Francisco > Morro Bay J6 : Morro Bay > Los Angeles J7 : Los Angeles J8 : Los Angeles > Joshua Tree NP (nuit à Yucca Valley ou Twentynine Palms) J9 : Yucca Valley ou Twentynine Palms > Death Valley (nuit dans le parc, à Furnace Creek vous seriez plus près de Zabriskie Point pour le lever du soleil) J10 : Death Valley > Las Vegas > fin d'après-midi jusqu'au coucher du soleil à Valley of Fire SP (nuit à Overton au "North Shore Inn At Lake Mead") J11 : retour à Valley of Fire SP le matin de bonne heure pour continuer de l'explorer > après-midi et nuit à Las Vegas J12 : Las Vegas - vol du retour
Cela ferait 4 nuits à San Francisco et 2 nuits à Los Angeles comme il le prévoyait
A+
Christine
Hiacinthe
ou 1 nuit en moins à San Francisco afin d'ajouter 1 nuit à Monterey.
Bonne journée !
Christine
Bonne journée !
Christine
Hiacinthe
Merci mais j'avais oublié de préciser que le circuit je dois prendre Air france et donc partir de LAX et arriver à SFO (ou l'inverse). Je suis déja allé à Las Vegas et je voudrai l'éviter.
L'hotel d' Overton au "North Shore Inn At Lake Mead" est complet pour ces dates
Que pensez vous du circuit suivant sur 10 ou 12 Nuits ? Los Angeles 2 N Pionner Town Hotel 1 N Joshua Tree Death valley Furnace Creek hotel ? faut il y sejourner ? Lake Isabella / Bakerfield afin de traverser la parie "verte de la carte " mais la route est elle praticable sans chaine ? Morro Bay 1 N Monterey San Francisco 3 N
ou alors peut être vaut-il mieux prendre le temps de faire des stops de 2 nuits r et ne faire que la cote de LAX à SFO. ? Bonne soirée
Que pensez vous du circuit suivant sur 10 ou 12 Nuits ? Los Angeles 2 N Pionner Town Hotel 1 N Joshua Tree Death valley Furnace Creek hotel ? faut il y sejourner ? Lake Isabella / Bakerfield afin de traverser la parie "verte de la carte " mais la route est elle praticable sans chaine ? Morro Bay 1 N Monterey San Francisco 3 N
ou alors peut être vaut-il mieux prendre le temps de faire des stops de 2 nuits r et ne faire que la cote de LAX à SFO. ? Bonne soirée
Lake Isabella / Bakerfield afin de traverser la parie "verte de la carte " mais la route est elle praticable sans chaine ?
En avril, pas de probleme pour la route 178 pres de Lake Isabella, mais la route n'est pas si verte que ca. Mais apres cet hiver plein de pluie/neige, probablement plus verte que normal. Je me souviens qu'il y avait une partie de la route a l'est du Lake Isabella qui avait pas mal de plantes Joshua Tree. Le paysage change selon l'altitude et si on est a l'est ou a l'ouest de l'arete aux montagnes. Dans l'ouest, une foret de coniferes. Dans l'est, un paysage desertique.
En allant de SF a Monterey, je suggere une visite a Big Basin Redwood State Park au nord de Santa Cruz. Ce parc a une belle foret de redwood plus vaste que la foret a Muir Woods. Il faut aller loin au nord de SF pour voir les plus belles forets de redwood.
Point Lobos State Park au bord de la mer jusqu'au sud de Carmel est tres jolie.
En avril, pas de probleme pour la route 178 pres de Lake Isabella, mais la route n'est pas si verte que ca. Mais apres cet hiver plein de pluie/neige, probablement plus verte que normal. Je me souviens qu'il y avait une partie de la route a l'est du Lake Isabella qui avait pas mal de plantes Joshua Tree. Le paysage change selon l'altitude et si on est a l'est ou a l'ouest de l'arete aux montagnes. Dans l'ouest, une foret de coniferes. Dans l'est, un paysage desertique.
En allant de SF a Monterey, je suggere une visite a Big Basin Redwood State Park au nord de Santa Cruz. Ce parc a une belle foret de redwood plus vaste que la foret a Muir Woods. Il faut aller loin au nord de SF pour voir les plus belles forets de redwood.
Point Lobos State Park au bord de la mer jusqu'au sud de Carmel est tres jolie.
Bonsoir Jean-Claude,
Je pensais à Las Vegas pour le vol du retour du fait que cette ville est située dans la région de Death Valley NP et Valley of Fire SP.
Vous souhaitez peut-être prendre un vol direct à l'aller et au retour.
Si vous n'êtes pas opposés à un vol avec une escale, vous avez plusieurs possibilités pour le retour, Air France est partenaire de Delta Airlines, vous n'êtes pas obligés de repartir de San Francisco ou Los Angeles.
Concernant Death Valley NP, afin de profiter des points de vue en fin d'après-midi jusqu'au coucher du soleil ainsi qu'au lever du soleil, il est intéressant de dormir à l'intérieur du parc.
Comme Furnace Creek est assez proche de Zabriskie Point, vous aurez moins de chemin à faire pour admirer Zabriskie Point au lever du soleil.
Si vous dormez à Stovepipe Wells Village, vous aurez plus de distance à parcourir pour aller à Zabriskie Point le lendemain matin.
Si vous dormez dans un motel à l'extérieur du parc, à Beatty, par exemple, vous aurez 1 heure de route à faire pour aller jusqu'à Zabriskie Point le lendemain matin.
Après Death Valley NP, vous pensiez dormir à Bakersfield ?
Sur la carte montrée quand on utilise google maps, tous les parcs sont en vert, même ceux qui sont désertiques.
Votre itinéraire vous fait faire un aller-retour entre la côte et la Death Valley NP du fait que vous prenez votre vol du retour sur la côte californienne.
La route est assez longue pour rejoindre la côte en partant de Death Valley NP. C'est la raison pour laquelle j'avais pensé à un vol du retour à Las Vegas.
Et, sur votre projet, vous ne passez pas du côté de Santa Barbara. Si la visite d'une Mission vous intéresse, c'est celle de Santa Barbara que nous avons préférée.
J'ai parlé de la partie côtière de notre dernier circuit au début de mon carnet. Vous pouvez le consulter (à partir du message n°95 : voyageforum.com/...colorado-d7598450-5/)
Fin juin dernier, nous avons eu la chance de bénéficier d'une très bonne météo sur la côte entre San Francisco et Los Angeles.
Bonne nuit !
Je pensais à Las Vegas pour le vol du retour du fait que cette ville est située dans la région de Death Valley NP et Valley of Fire SP.
Vous souhaitez peut-être prendre un vol direct à l'aller et au retour.
Si vous n'êtes pas opposés à un vol avec une escale, vous avez plusieurs possibilités pour le retour, Air France est partenaire de Delta Airlines, vous n'êtes pas obligés de repartir de San Francisco ou Los Angeles.
Concernant Death Valley NP, afin de profiter des points de vue en fin d'après-midi jusqu'au coucher du soleil ainsi qu'au lever du soleil, il est intéressant de dormir à l'intérieur du parc.
Comme Furnace Creek est assez proche de Zabriskie Point, vous aurez moins de chemin à faire pour admirer Zabriskie Point au lever du soleil.
Si vous dormez à Stovepipe Wells Village, vous aurez plus de distance à parcourir pour aller à Zabriskie Point le lendemain matin.
Si vous dormez dans un motel à l'extérieur du parc, à Beatty, par exemple, vous aurez 1 heure de route à faire pour aller jusqu'à Zabriskie Point le lendemain matin.
Après Death Valley NP, vous pensiez dormir à Bakersfield ?
Sur la carte montrée quand on utilise google maps, tous les parcs sont en vert, même ceux qui sont désertiques.
Votre itinéraire vous fait faire un aller-retour entre la côte et la Death Valley NP du fait que vous prenez votre vol du retour sur la côte californienne.
La route est assez longue pour rejoindre la côte en partant de Death Valley NP. C'est la raison pour laquelle j'avais pensé à un vol du retour à Las Vegas.
Et, sur votre projet, vous ne passez pas du côté de Santa Barbara. Si la visite d'une Mission vous intéresse, c'est celle de Santa Barbara que nous avons préférée.
J'ai parlé de la partie côtière de notre dernier circuit au début de mon carnet. Vous pouvez le consulter (à partir du message n°95 : voyageforum.com/...colorado-d7598450-5/)
Fin juin dernier, nous avons eu la chance de bénéficier d'une très bonne météo sur la côte entre San Francisco et Los Angeles.
Bonne nuit !
Hiacinthe
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!