Système APC à l'aéroport de Minneapolis?
by MaryElectra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous
Etant à J -16 de notre départ je suis interpellée dans les divers sujets par ce nouveau système "APC" à l'arrivée pour l'entrée aux USA (que je ne connais pas mon dernier et 10ème séjour aux USA datant déjà de 2011). Auriez-vous des infos sur ce sujet concernant une arrivée à Minneapolis ? Je n'ai rien trouvé de concret sur le site de l'aéroport...
Dans l'éventualité, merci d'avance !
Bons voyages et bonnes vacances.
Chris
"Before you judge me take a look at yourself"
Children of Bodom
"On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry)
http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
Salut Chris
Sur le site des douanes US, il est indiqué que Minneapolis posssede le systeme APC : http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/automated-passport-control-apc
Sur le site des douanes US, il est indiqué que Minneapolis posssede le systeme APC : http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/automated-passport-control-apc
Bonjour,
c'est un système automatisé de passage en douane, sur une borne, on te demande tes déclarations, on te prend tes empreintes (tu mets tes doigts sur l'écran pour le scan) il y a toujours quelqu'un proche pour t'aider si tu ne comprends pas ou ne sais pas faire, bref rien d'angoissant ou de sorcier et après cela en fonction de ce que les officiels retiennent (je suppose), tu passes très vite à la sortie. Au lieu de faire la queue pour passer, tu passes ce temps à remplir ces formalités. J'ai passé beaucoup moins de temps avec ce système l'an dernier qu'en 2011 avec le passage en files.
Donc bonnes vacances et pas de souci, tu découvriras au fur et à mesure des demandes, tu as le temps de réfléchir devant l'écran. S'il n'y a pas trop de Français râleurs dans ton avion, tu verras c'est cool😎
Dominique
Re
Comme je l'ai dit sur une autre discussion, à O'HARE en mai, il etait "exigé" des conditions supplementaires pour pouvoir utiliser les APC : avoir un passeport et un esta déjà utilisé.
Mon epouse et moi même avions un nouvel ESTA, et le couple de ma famille un nouveau passeport.
Bien que ce soit contraire aux conditions indiquées sur le site des douanes, j'ai obei aux consignes, ce que je regrette encore car j'ai perdu 2h...
Mon epouse et moi même avions un nouvel ESTA, et le couple de ma famille un nouveau passeport.
Bien que ce soit contraire aux conditions indiquées sur le site des douanes, j'ai obei aux consignes, ce que je regrette encore car j'ai perdu 2h...
Bonjour,
là doit être effectivement la différence, mon ESTA et mon passeport avaient déjà été utilisés;
donc pour Chris, ...Surprise 😉
je suis aussi passé par Detroit et cela avait été très rapide (j'avais déjà utilisé le système 1 fois)
Dominique
ps : comme quoi il n'y a pas de réponse toute faite.
Merci à tous.
Notre passeport est le même qu'en 2011 mais bien sûr nous avons un nouvel Esta. Donc... et bien on verra ! 😇
"Before you judge me take a look at yourself"
Children of Bodom
"On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry)
http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
Bah je ne peux pas jouer la française qui ne parle pas bien anglais mais je peux toujours jouer la blonde 😉 😎 😏
"Before you judge me take a look at yourself"
Children of Bodom
"On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry)
http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
Bonjour Chris,
Lors de notre arrivée à Los Angeles en janvier de cette année, la seule condition pour y passer à l'APC était d'avoir été autorisé précédemment à entrer aux USA avec le même passeport.
Il n'y avait pas de condition liée à l'utilisation précédente du même ESTA.
Pour ce qui nous concerne d'ailleurs, l'ESTA était "neuf" (demandé quelques semaines avant le vol selon nouvelle formule, l'ancien ayant expiré) et n'avait pas encore été "utilisé" pour entrer sur sol US.
Nous étions donc, pile poil, dans les mêmes conditions que toi ...
Joseph
Lors de notre arrivée à Los Angeles en janvier de cette année, la seule condition pour y passer à l'APC était d'avoir été autorisé précédemment à entrer aux USA avec le même passeport.
Il n'y avait pas de condition liée à l'utilisation précédente du même ESTA.
Pour ce qui nous concerne d'ailleurs, l'ESTA était "neuf" (demandé quelques semaines avant le vol selon nouvelle formule, l'ancien ayant expiré) et n'avait pas encore été "utilisé" pour entrer sur sol US.
Nous étions donc, pile poil, dans les mêmes conditions que toi ...
Joseph
Merci Joseph pour le renseignement. Et bien nous verrons si Minneapolis pratique la même religion que Lax !
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http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
Lors de notre arrivée à Los Angeles en janvier de cette année, la seule condition pour y passer à l'APC était d'avoir été autorisé précédemment à entrer aux USA avec le même passeport.
Et c'était aussi notre cas à LAX, au mois d'avril. J'avais un nouveau passeport et il a fallu suivre l'ancien parcourt.
Par contre à Boston, au mois de juin, il n'y avait "que" 2 files pour les non citizen : visa ou ESTA.
J'ai eu des problèmes avec mes empreintes, donc autorisation barrée. Mais comme très peu de gens rencontrent des problèmes au niveau de l'enregistrement sur les bornes, les files étaient nettement moins longues que les files pour les "sans problèmes" 😉
Et c'était aussi notre cas à LAX, au mois d'avril. J'avais un nouveau passeport et il a fallu suivre l'ancien parcourt.
Par contre à Boston, au mois de juin, il n'y avait "que" 2 files pour les non citizen : visa ou ESTA.
J'ai eu des problèmes avec mes empreintes, donc autorisation barrée. Mais comme très peu de gens rencontrent des problèmes au niveau de l'enregistrement sur les bornes, les files étaient nettement moins longues que les files pour les "sans problèmes" 😉
Quelques Voyages en Photos
Bonjour,
Il semble que le seul impératif maintenant soit d'avoir été admis aux USA au moins une fois depuis 2008 (http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/automated-passport-control-apc). Il ne semble plus y avoir de demande d'avoir utilisé soit le passeport soit l'ESTA au moins une fois.
Who Is Eligible to Use APC?
U.S. and Canadian passport holders and international visitors from Visa Waiver Program countries are eligible to use APC kiosks. Visa Waiver Program visitors must have Electronic System for Travel Authorizations (ESTA) approval prior to travel and have visited the United States on at least one occasion after 2008.
Tout est là, y compris la liste des aéroports équipés, et c'est clair :
http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/automated-passport-control-apc
Merci à tous ceux qui sont intervenus (y compris en MP) pour vos loyaux et amicaux services. Chris (J - 15 rhââââ 😊 😛)
http://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/automated-passport-control-apc
Merci à tous ceux qui sont intervenus (y compris en MP) pour vos loyaux et amicaux services. Chris (J - 15 rhââââ 😊 😛)
"Before you judge me take a look at yourself"
Children of Bodom
"On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry)
http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
(J - 15 rhââââ 😊 😛)
Veinarde ! 😎 y'a plus qu'à te souhaiter bon voyage ! 🙂
Veinarde ! 😎 y'a plus qu'à te souhaiter bon voyage ! 🙂
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
Salut Chris.
Au fait, il y a aussi un truc sympa pour les controles de securité dans les aeroports US.
C'est le TSA PRECHECK : On passe aux controles securité sans avoir à oter ses chaussures, sa ceinture, etc, et sans enlever les ordis des bagages de cabine. C'est donc tres tres rapide, surtout que de facto il n'y a plus de file d'attente car ce sont des comptoirs dediés où ca va tres vite.
Je ne sais pas comment c'est attribué par la TSA, mais je pense que les voyageurs frequents l'ont plus ou moins automatisquement. Pour savois si on en beneficie, il y a ecrit TSA PreCheck ou PRECHK en haut à gauche du ticket d'embarquement.
Au fait, il y a aussi un truc sympa pour les controles de securité dans les aeroports US.
C'est le TSA PRECHECK : On passe aux controles securité sans avoir à oter ses chaussures, sa ceinture, etc, et sans enlever les ordis des bagages de cabine. C'est donc tres tres rapide, surtout que de facto il n'y a plus de file d'attente car ce sont des comptoirs dediés où ca va tres vite.
Je ne sais pas comment c'est attribué par la TSA, mais je pense que les voyageurs frequents l'ont plus ou moins automatisquement. Pour savois si on en beneficie, il y a ecrit TSA PreCheck ou PRECHK en haut à gauche du ticket d'embarquement.
Merci our l'info Jean Pierre.
😎
"Before you judge me take a look at yourself"
Children of Bodom
"On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry)
http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
Bonsoir,
ce programme ne semble pas arriver au hasard, voici le site Delta qui en parle :
http://fr.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/planning-a-trip/tsa-precheck.html
cela marche avec l'inscription aux skymiles ou en payant une cotisation de 85 à 100 $ pour 5 ans.
je pense donc que je ferai encore la queue😉
bon voyage, moi je repars en septembre. Je suis passé à Sturgis l'an dernier mi octobre, c'est étonnant de voir ces grandes avenues pour cette ville de 6000 habitants qui multiplie par 100 en août et là je pense que ces mêmes rues paraissent petites 😏. A la même époque, j'ai eu des chambres à Keystone à l'holiday's inn au même prix qu'à l'econo lodge c.à.d. 49 $ et le Mt Rushmore, Crazy Horse Memorial et Devil's Tower sont vraiment agréables à visiter à cette époque qui est la fin de leur saison (j'ai eu la chance de le faire avec le soleil et des températures agréables car il semble que l'on peut aussi avoir de la neige certaines années à cette époque) bref j'en ai encore plein les mirettes et te souhaite de bonnes vacances en attendant les miennes. cordialement Dominique
bon voyage, moi je repars en septembre. Je suis passé à Sturgis l'an dernier mi octobre, c'est étonnant de voir ces grandes avenues pour cette ville de 6000 habitants qui multiplie par 100 en août et là je pense que ces mêmes rues paraissent petites 😏. A la même époque, j'ai eu des chambres à Keystone à l'holiday's inn au même prix qu'à l'econo lodge c.à.d. 49 $ et le Mt Rushmore, Crazy Horse Memorial et Devil's Tower sont vraiment agréables à visiter à cette époque qui est la fin de leur saison (j'ai eu la chance de le faire avec le soleil et des températures agréables car il semble que l'on peut aussi avoir de la neige certaines années à cette époque) bref j'en ai encore plein les mirettes et te souhaite de bonnes vacances en attendant les miennes. cordialement Dominique
bonjour
moi j 'ai pu utilisé le système à San Francisco en avril 2015 avec passeport de 2010 et premier esta. Bon c'est un peu au hasard qu on l'a su car déja engagé dans les files des non citizens quand j'ai entendu vaguement esta du coup y a tout un troupeau qu s'est dirigé vers les files citizens et les bornes
bonnes vacances à toi!
moi j 'ai pu utilisé le système à San Francisco en avril 2015 avec passeport de 2010 et premier esta. Bon c'est un peu au hasard qu on l'a su car déja engagé dans les files des non citizens quand j'ai entendu vaguement esta du coup y a tout un troupeau qu s'est dirigé vers les files citizens et les bornes
bonnes vacances à toi!
Travel addict, je prépare mes voyages avec plaisir, En 2015 : Californie et Brésil+ we en France 2014: Bruxelles, Istanbul et Bretagne
en Europe, Asie, Amérique
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Merci pour le sujet car je n avais jamais entendu parlé de ce système .
Pour notre part ma femme et moi étions aux US en 2012 et malgré un changement de passeport entre-temps nous sommes donc éligible pour utiliser ce système .
Ella Pourriez vous nous raconter votre expérience à San Francisco lors de votre passage à la borne ?
Nous arriverons par cet aéroport en septembre et si ça peut m empêcher de faire une bêtise ça m arrangerais 😉
nous avions pris le vol d air france qui arrivait à SF à 13h heure locale
on s est naturellement dirigé vers les files non citizens quand j ai entendu esta
ce n est pas compliqué en fait à ces bornes vous devez en quelques sortes scanner votre passeport , prendre vos empreintes digitales et répondre aux questions posées qui sont les mêmes que celles qui sont sur la fiche donnée dans l avion
vous prennez une photo
il me semble que vous pouvez chosir la langue sur la machine à confirmer, mes souvenirs me font défaut
me semble que vous confirmez tout ca et vous obtenez un ticket et la vous allez au guichet où il y a l agent de l immigration qui vous pose les questions habituelles je pense à l'entrée aux usa
combien de temps êtes vous ici, quel motif vous reprennez empruntes photo et basta
en tout cas ce fus le cas pour nous
sympa l agent avec quelques mots en français
Travel addict, je prépare mes voyages avec plaisir, En 2015 : Californie et Brésil+ we en France 2014: Bruxelles, Istanbul et Bretagne
en Europe, Asie, Amérique
http://www.viveravidaiswonderful.com
Merci pour votre réponse 😉
J'ai lu cela sur le site de Delta mais peut-être était ce un service spécial. Je verrai cela en septembre. Je suis passé aux bornes déjà et donc le pre check serait un autre système ?
Bonjour
Je ne confonds pas avec global entry. Comme indiqué sur le site Delta :
http:fr.delta.com/content/www/en-US/traveling-with-US/planning-a-trip/tsa- precheck.html
On parle effectivement de sécurité et on indique qu'eventuellement on peut s'inscrire a global security ou a un autre programme pour accélérer les contrôles donc c'est bien quelque chose de différent et pour ne pas mourir idiot (quoique...
😄 j'aimerais bien connaitre le fonctionnement. Chris si tu es confronté a cela a ton arrivée envoie nous le retour.
Sans plus d'intervention sur ce sujet avant d'en savoir plus
Merci pour toutes vos infos sur ce forum
Cordialement
Dominique
PS je ne sais pas pourquoi j'ai cette mise en page étroite
Bonjour
Pour le precheck, j'ai regardé le site DELTA (le lien ne s'ouvrait pas avec le precedent ordi)
Il est bien dit que pour etre eligible, il faut que la TSA ait des infos sur le voyageur, logique, et que donc il faut les renseigner sur le site, soit sur le compte skymile, soit en prenant le billlet. c'est ce qui est arrivé pour nous, car comme on a pris un vol transatlantique DELTA, notre profil a été automatiquement renseigné.
Pour Global entry, il est bien dit que l'inscription a ce programme donne plus de chances de beneficier de pre-check.
Il est bien dit que pour etre eligible, il faut que la TSA ait des infos sur le voyageur, logique, et que donc il faut les renseigner sur le site, soit sur le compte skymile, soit en prenant le billlet. c'est ce qui est arrivé pour nous, car comme on a pris un vol transatlantique DELTA, notre profil a été automatiquement renseigné.
Pour Global entry, il est bien dit que l'inscription a ce programme donne plus de chances de beneficier de pre-check.
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Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine






