De Thaïlande à la Chine par voie terrestre: formalités
by Naaje
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Quelqu'un a-t-il des infos sur les formalités pour aller de Thailande en Chine (Yunnan) par la voie terrestre? Et les démarches sont-elles faciles à faire à partir de Bangkok?
Est-on obligé d'avoir un billet d'avion A/R, quitte à ne pas l'utiliser? Car je n'ai franchement pas envie de me priver de la possibilité de voyager par les transports locaux, c'est tellement plus génial que l'avion!
Et, las but not least, j'en profite par la même occasion 😉 Mieux vaut par car, train (s'il y a), et quels postes frontières sont les plus pratiques?
Voili voilà.... Merci beaucoup!
Françoise
Naaje
visa chine a faire a bangkok
Si on ne veut pas de surprises, je dirais plutôt "Visa Chine à faire en France avant de partir". Si vous connaissez vos dates d'arrivées et de départ, même approximatives, c'est toujours mieux.
Si on ne veut pas de surprises, je dirais plutôt "Visa Chine à faire en France avant de partir". Si vous connaissez vos dates d'arrivées et de départ, même approximatives, c'est toujours mieux.
Bjr
tout à fait d'accord quand c'est possible ( et qu'on habite loin de Paris)
mais dans le cas présent il semble qu'il s'agisse d'un tour du monde ( voyage d'un an - départ juin 2015 via Bamako, juillet USA, aout Canada, septembre Guatemala, octobre Tahiti, novembre Nouvelle-Zélande, décembre Japon, janvier Thailande, février Yunnan, mars Inde du Sud, avril Turquie, mai Grèce. )
tout à fait d'accord quand c'est possible ( et qu'on habite loin de Paris)
mais dans le cas présent il semble qu'il s'agisse d'un tour du monde ( voyage d'un an - départ juin 2015 via Bamako, juillet USA, aout Canada, septembre Guatemala, octobre Tahiti, novembre Nouvelle-Zélande, décembre Japon, janvier Thailande, février Yunnan, mars Inde du Sud, avril Turquie, mai Grèce. )
Bonsoir
Effectivement, c'est dans un TDM, je ne pourrai donc pas prendre le visa en France.
Et en y allant par voie terrestre (ou, encore mieux, l'idée du bateau! 🙂) comment cela se passe pour les formalités? Un billet retour de bateau/car/train suffit-il comme preuve que j'ai les moyens de sortir de Chine?
Merci!
Merci!
Naaje
Salut Françoise,
Je compte faire plus ou moins le même itinéraire, en voyageant doucement car je pars pour 1 an (minimum) en Asie, avec si possible du woofing, "workaway" dès que j'en aurai marre de voyager ;) ou dans des pays ou je pourrai avoir de plus longs visas.
Voici comment je compte procéder pour les formalités (je voyagerai avec un passeport Luxembourgeois moins avantageux pour la Thaïlande par voie terrestre (2 semaines d'exemption), mais plus avantageux pour le Laos (2 semaines sans visa) : -Arrivée prévue à Bangkok le 12 avril pour Songkran (je n'ai pas encore choisi d'endroit pour fêter une 2ème nouvelle année;), pour 30 jours en Thaïlande (en utilisant l'exemption de visa - ayant obtenu au préalable une preuve de sortie du territoire train Sud Thaïlande - Malaisie par exemple que je n'utiliserai pas) - Demande et obtention de visa du Myanmar à Bangkok pendant ce séjour. - Entrée au Myanmar pour 28 jours. - Retour en Thaïlande par voie terrestre pour 2 semaines maximum (exemption de visa), en direction du Cambodge ou Sud Laos (j'ai déjà voyagé au nord et au centre), demande et obtention de visa 30 jours pour le Vietnam (probablement depuis Pnom Pehn). - Après 1 mois au Cambodge + 2 semaines Laos ou l'inverse, entrée au Vietnam pour 30 jours, si ça me plais extension de 30 jours en cours de voyage. - Depuis le Vietnam (Hanoi) demande visa pour la Chine (officiellement on ne peut pas hors de France, mais de nombreux témoignages prouvent le contraire, surtout si l'on voyage depuis plusieurs mois). - Minimum 30 jours en Chine, mais je vais tenter d'avoir un visa de 6 mois multiples entrée visite famille avec l'aide de mes cousins résidents à Shanghai et de mon frère résident a Hong Kong (pour justifier au moins une entrée sortie). Ensuite je ne sais pas encore ou j'irai, peut-être Taiwan par bateau depuis la Chine !
Je compte faire plus ou moins le même itinéraire, en voyageant doucement car je pars pour 1 an (minimum) en Asie, avec si possible du woofing, "workaway" dès que j'en aurai marre de voyager ;) ou dans des pays ou je pourrai avoir de plus longs visas.
Voici comment je compte procéder pour les formalités (je voyagerai avec un passeport Luxembourgeois moins avantageux pour la Thaïlande par voie terrestre (2 semaines d'exemption), mais plus avantageux pour le Laos (2 semaines sans visa) : -Arrivée prévue à Bangkok le 12 avril pour Songkran (je n'ai pas encore choisi d'endroit pour fêter une 2ème nouvelle année;), pour 30 jours en Thaïlande (en utilisant l'exemption de visa - ayant obtenu au préalable une preuve de sortie du territoire train Sud Thaïlande - Malaisie par exemple que je n'utiliserai pas) - Demande et obtention de visa du Myanmar à Bangkok pendant ce séjour. - Entrée au Myanmar pour 28 jours. - Retour en Thaïlande par voie terrestre pour 2 semaines maximum (exemption de visa), en direction du Cambodge ou Sud Laos (j'ai déjà voyagé au nord et au centre), demande et obtention de visa 30 jours pour le Vietnam (probablement depuis Pnom Pehn). - Après 1 mois au Cambodge + 2 semaines Laos ou l'inverse, entrée au Vietnam pour 30 jours, si ça me plais extension de 30 jours en cours de voyage. - Depuis le Vietnam (Hanoi) demande visa pour la Chine (officiellement on ne peut pas hors de France, mais de nombreux témoignages prouvent le contraire, surtout si l'on voyage depuis plusieurs mois). - Minimum 30 jours en Chine, mais je vais tenter d'avoir un visa de 6 mois multiples entrée visite famille avec l'aide de mes cousins résidents à Shanghai et de mon frère résident a Hong Kong (pour justifier au moins une entrée sortie). Ensuite je ne sais pas encore ou j'irai, peut-être Taiwan par bateau depuis la Chine !
Jonathan
Bonjour ,
Train couchette Bangkok-Nong Khai en Thailande. Passage du pont de l' amitié entre Nong Khai et Vientiane capitale du Laos . ( tuk tuk de la gare au poste frontiere thai , navette franchissant le pont , papiers pour le visa laotien remplis sur place , taxi pour Vientiane . C' etait ce que j'avais fait autrefois . A Vientiane j'avais vu un bus couchettes ( etroites ! ) qui faisait la liaison avec Kunming au Yunnan .
Je pense qu'aujourd'hui compte tenu du developpement touristique d'autres possibilités existent , meme au depart de Luang Prabang .
Cdlt Jean
Train couchette Bangkok-Nong Khai en Thailande. Passage du pont de l' amitié entre Nong Khai et Vientiane capitale du Laos . ( tuk tuk de la gare au poste frontiere thai , navette franchissant le pont , papiers pour le visa laotien remplis sur place , taxi pour Vientiane . C' etait ce que j'avais fait autrefois . A Vientiane j'avais vu un bus couchettes ( etroites ! ) qui faisait la liaison avec Kunming au Yunnan .
Je pense qu'aujourd'hui compte tenu du developpement touristique d'autres possibilités existent , meme au depart de Luang Prabang .
Cdlt Jean
OK! Merci beaucoup pour ces renseignements!
Je me doutais bien que, sur le terrain, il y avait des possibilités plus ouvertes que ce que l'on trouve comme infos classiques sur les sites de visas.
Bonne journée!
Naaje
Bonjour; je vois votre post d'il y a plus d'un an; peut-être pouvez-vous dire maintenant si vous avez pu entrer en Chine par voie terrestre sans billet d'avion aller ou retour; Nous envisageons après un séjour enThailande, traverser le nord Laos puis passage au Vietnam vers Sapa puis en Chine au Yunnan; ou alors du Laos au Yunnan et sortie au Vietnam. On cherche en fait à visiter Sapa et les environs et le Yunnan après avoir passé un bon moment en Thailande. Merci
Schischi
Bonjour; je vois votre post d'il y a plus d'un an; peut-être pouvez-vous dire maintenant si vous avez pu entrer en Chine par voie terrestre sans billet d'avion aller ou retour; Nous envisageons après un séjour en Thailande, traverser le nord Laos puis passage au Vietnam vers Sapa puis en Chine au Yunnan; ou alors du Laos au Yunnan et sortie au Vietnam. On cherche en fait à visiter Sapa et les environs et le Yunnan après avoir passé un bon moment en Thailande. Merci
Bonjour, le sujet est régulièrement abordé sur le forum, où nous confirmons post après post que c'est possible, mais il faut fournir une autre forme de preuve de sortie du territoire. Si par exemple vous allez au Vietnam après le Yunnan, votre visa pour le Vietnam peut servir de preuve.
Bonjour, le sujet est régulièrement abordé sur le forum, où nous confirmons post après post que c'est possible, mais il faut fournir une autre forme de preuve de sortie du territoire. Si par exemple vous allez au Vietnam après le Yunnan, votre visa pour le Vietnam peut servir de preuve.
Je comprends mais j'irai au nord Vietnam moins de 15 jours ( j'ai fait de précédents voyages au Vietnam) et je n'aurai pas besoin de visa. Par cintre j'aurai un billet d'avion de sortie Vietnam-France. Ça ira? Merci.
Schischi
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.