Mauvaise nuit à Chiang Mai
by Keiser31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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nous revenons de 2 semaines en thailande et avons passé une nuit à la gap's house à chiang mai . on revient d'une première balade et là mon sac avait certaine poche ouverte mais sur le moment j'ai pas percuté, bref à 3h du matin je sursaute du lit car quelqu'un tente de forcer la porte en tirant dessus comme un malade la porte ne cède pas (et vu que tout est en bois ça a tremblé ). le gardien un vieux monsieur avec une lampe torche et là contre notre fenêtre une silhouette et une bonne vieille respiration super rassurante . bref deuxième ronde 1h plutard et la personne était toujours là moi derrière la porte et re tentative d'ouverture sachant que entre temps on avait allumé la lumière donc super délire, j'ai pas dormi de la nuit . au petit matin on range nos affaire et je m'appercois que mon petit cadenas avait été forcé j'en parle à la propriétaire qui s'en foutait complètement. on est parti à la galare house (950 bth la nuit et service nickel) plus cher certes mais j'avais plus envie de batailler.
Et ils t'ont demandé de payer content ?
non mais ils devrait assurer un minimum au niveau des clef vu que nous sommes sortie en laissant le cadenas fermé sur la porte
barraqué veut pas dire débile un type sait que t'es là il il veut quand même rentrer dans ta piole en pleine nuit soit il est complètement frappé soit il est sûr de lui et moi je prends pas le risque et en plus je pratique
et oui je suis d'accord avec toi car les thai sont super sympa dans une grande partie du pays mais si on veux connaitre la tendance future de ce pays faut juste aller à bangkok, c'est horrible, faut dire aussi que voir des type de 80 ans se payer des petites thai de 20 ans ou moins ça donne des idées noires
Je trouve mois aussi (connaissant maintenant la Thailande depuis plusieurs annees) que cela a bien change surtout dans les zones touristiques. Il n'y a plus qu'en Issan que je n'ai plus de problemes avec les prix (peut etre qu'il ne savent pas encore y faire avec les touristes). Partout ou je passe dans les zones touristiques les thais essaient de gonfler les prix aux maximum (et ils y vont fort, c'est meme delirant car defois c'est +200 pourcent en plus meme pour manger) et pourtant ma copine est Thaie mais ils s'en foutent et si on commence a discuter tout de suite c'est les insultes en Thai qui comment a remplacer le faux sourire commercial. J'ai meme vu ma copine a Bangkok a la limite d'y aller a coup de poing car vraiment maintenant dans les zones touristiques les Farangs sont devenue des portes monais sur patte.
Bref maintenant moi en Thailande je ne me sent bien plus qu'en Issan (mais pour combien de temps encore car les touristes commencent a pointer leur nez)
C'est une question de temps, et la thailande vit en decaler avec l'Europe......
Chacun son tour......Maintenant il faut laisser au touristes le temps de comprendre et decident de ne plus se faire arnaquer, et la l'équilibre reviendras......
C'est clair la Thailande va devenir comme la France ou un autre pays Européens, mais d'ici la, comment seront les pays Europeens???
La ou le vent nous emporteras
🙂Ou changer.......de pays!🤪
Quel fossé entre la Thaïlande des années 80 et celle de 2008......Un pays aussi merdique, désinvolte, agressif, voleur que la France....
bien hélas oui , , c'est la raison pour laquelle mon clavier est usée aux lettres <NE PAS PRENDRE L'AUTOROUTE TOURISTIQUE > mais sans beaucoup d'effet, 🤪 du aux nombres de touristes sur l'autoroute il est normal que cela attire les indélicats ( qui n'existaient pas autre fois, ) comme a la gaps, une des guests les plus intéressantes ( anciennement un dealer de antiquités birmanes ) ou il nous montrait ce que il avait trouver, mais revendu depuis, 🤪🤪 quant a mettre tout le pays dans le même panier tu y vas un peut trop fort, il y a 2 thailande une qui a garder sont aspect traditionnel, et l'autre victime de la sur consommation, le tout est de faire un choix, Iradium je te sent très remonter contre la France ce matin 😉😉😉😉
bien hélas oui , , c'est la raison pour laquelle mon clavier est usée aux lettres <NE PAS PRENDRE L'AUTOROUTE TOURISTIQUE > mais sans beaucoup d'effet, 🤪 du aux nombres de touristes sur l'autoroute il est normal que cela attire les indélicats ( qui n'existaient pas autre fois, ) comme a la gaps, une des guests les plus intéressantes ( anciennement un dealer de antiquités birmanes ) ou il nous montrait ce que il avait trouver, mais revendu depuis, 🤪🤪 quant a mettre tout le pays dans le même panier tu y vas un peut trop fort, il y a 2 thailande une qui a garder sont aspect traditionnel, et l'autre victime de la sur consommation, le tout est de faire un choix, Iradium je te sent très remonter contre la France ce matin 😉😉😉😉
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Je te trouve optimiste de penser qu'il y a deux thailande. 99% du pays veut consommer, malgré les discours que nous leur tenons et qui leur explique que celq ne leur apportera pas le bonheur. Rien à faire. Comme nous, ils veulent la télé, le mobile, la voiture...Et puis quoi encore ? La sécu, les congés payés ? Vous allez voir qu'un jour ils ne vont plus se contenter de leurs quatre euros quotidiens de salaire. Salauds de pauvres....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
99% du pays veut consommer, malgré les discours que nous leur tenons et qui leur explique que celq ne leur apportera pas le bonheur. Rien à faire. Comme nous, ils veulent la télé, le mobile, la voiture...Et puis quoi encore ? La sécu, les congés payés ? Vous allez voir qu'un jour ils ne vont plus se contenter de leurs quatre euros quotidiens de salaire. Salauds de pauvres....
Tout a fait exact, mais ce qu'en Europe nous avons mis 50 ans a obtenir et a mettre en place, les Thais le veulent tout de suite sans penser aux consequences que cela va entrainer et en se foutant completement si pour cela il faut que leurs voisins crevent dans le caniveau🤪🤪. Bref je pense qu'ils sont en train de tuer la poule aux oeufs d'or (concernant le tourisme)
Tout a fait exact, mais ce qu'en Europe nous avons mis 50 ans a obtenir et a mettre en place, les Thais le veulent tout de suite sans penser aux consequences que cela va entrainer et en se foutant completement si pour cela il faut que leurs voisins crevent dans le caniveau🤪🤪. Bref je pense qu'ils sont en train de tuer la poule aux oeufs d'or (concernant le tourisme)
On oublie souvent que le gros marché touristique pour eux (plus de 60% des arrivées) est le marché asiatique. Plus il y a de chinois riches, plus il sera facile de remplacer les européens... Cela prendra un peu de temps, mais c'est en cours... Quand à la réflexion sur les conséquences, elle est tout à fait exacte... D'une manière générale, les thaïs vivent dans l'instant présent. Cela dit, les Occidentaux ne se soucient que peu des retombées dans trente ans....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
On peut dire également que le gouvernement Shinawatra a tout fait pour privilégier un certain type de touristes: ceux qui dépensent! (cf. programme Thailand Elite)
On oublie souvent que le gros marché touristique pour eux (plus de 60% des arrivées) est le marché asiatique. Plus il y a de chinois riches, plus il sera facile de remplacer les européens... Cela prendra un peu de temps, mais c'est en cours... Quand à la réflexion sur les conséquences, elle est tout à fait exacte... D'une manière générale, les thaïs vivent dans l'instant présent. Cela dit, les Occidentaux ne se soucient que peu des retombées dans trente ans....
On oublie souvent que le gros marché touristique pour eux (plus de 60% des arrivées) est le marché asiatique. Plus il y a de chinois riches, plus il sera facile de remplacer les européens... Cela prendra un peu de temps, mais c'est en cours... Quand à la réflexion sur les conséquences, elle est tout à fait exacte... D'une manière générale, les thaïs vivent dans l'instant présent. Cela dit, les Occidentaux ne se soucient que peu des retombées dans trente ans....
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Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !