Nous avons decidé de peu être changer nos projets initiaux de voyage en juillet (voir mon précédant post) et découvrir la region centrale du Japon en utilisant le Tokyo-Osaka JR Central Pass de 7 jours
J'ai besoin d'un avis sur les villes que nous allons traverser et si possibilité de s'arrêter ailleurs
Nous restons 2 nuit a Tokyo
J1- Depart de Tokyo pour Nagano - Nuit a Nagano
J2 - Nuit a Nagano
J3 - Nuit a Kanazawa
J4 - Nuit ???
J5 - Nara - Nuit a Nara
J6 - Depart de Nara en milieu d'après-midi et Nuit a Osaka
J7 - Depart pour Kansai-Airport
J'ai mis en photo attachée un capture d'écran de ce que permet ce pass
Ce qui manque dans votre brouillon, c'est le positionnement des trajets : en début de journée ou en fin de journée ?
Kanazawa mérite plus qu'une journée. A priori, c'est là où vous pourriez passer la nuitée manquante.
Je me demandais si Kanazawa meritait plus d'une journée. Qu'y a-t-il a voir d'interessant a Kanazawa qui mérite 2 nuits. Pour Nagano, je me demandais si nous devions rester a Nagano ou une petite ville en dehors.
Voila un itinéraire plus affiné
J1- Depart de Tokyo pour Nagano - Nuit a Nagano
J2 - Nuit a Nagano
J3 - Nuit a Kanazawa
J4 - Nuit a Kanazawa ?
J5 - Depart de Kanazawa le matin - changement de train a Kyoto pour Nara - Nuit a Nara
J6 - Depart de Nara en milieu d'après-midi et Nuit a Osaka
J7 - Depart pour Kansai-Airport tot le matin par l'express qui va a l'aéroport (vol check in à 9h)
Je me demandais si Kanazawa meritait plus d'une journée.
Des villes qui ne méritent qu'une journée, il n'y en a pas beaucoup...
Vierzon peut-être, et ce n'est même pas au Japon ^^
En tout cas, les 2 nuits à Kanazawa se justifient plus que celles de Nagano, à moins d'aller voir les snow monkeys de Jugokudani.
Sur ce trajet, il est possible de dormir à Kaga Onsen, dans un ryokan, ou à Fukui, qui est proche de l’un des plus grands et des plus beaux temples du japon, l'Eiheiji.
En tout cas, les 2 nuits à Kanazawa se justifient plus que celles de Nagano, à moins d'aller voir les snow monkeys de Jugokudani.
Ou de faire une partie de la Nakasendô entre Tsumago et Magome, ou visiter le petit donjon du château d'Inuyama et participer à un Ukai sur la rivière Kiso, ... ce ne sont pas les activités qui manquent dans ce coin...
We'll never be as young as we are now (One Ok Rock - Decision)
Par contre, je ne comprends pas votre engouement pour Kanazawa, que j'ai visité en une journée (Kenroku-en, Nagamachi Bukeyashiki et le "château").
Bonjour,
Vous oubliez le Myôryû-ji, plus connu sous le nom impropre de Ninja-dera ("Temple ninja").
Je ne vois rien d'anormal à avoir des coups de cœur différents. 🙂
Moi en 2013...
Je me demande si je n'ai pas rêvé ces travaux, impossible d'en trouver la trace sur Internet. Pourtant, je suis sûr de ne pas l'avoir visité. En revanche, j'ai adoré Inuyama. Y a même un Schnell Imbiss, dont le patron (japonais) parle allemand...
je ne comprends pas votre engouement pour Kanazawa, que j'ai visité en une journée (Kenroku-en, Nagamachi Bukeyashiki et le "château")
En plus de ce que tu as cité, il y a le musée d'art contemporain (*****), le marché aux poissons le matin, Higashi Chaya et les feuilles d'or... On peut même aller faire un tour à Kaga Onsen... bref, deux nuits pour une journée pleine, il est où, mon engouement ? 😇
D'après ce que j'ai lu dans votre commentaire, lors de votre voyage au Japon, vous visiterez Nara. À mon avis, c'est l'une des plus belles villes. Dans cette ville ancestrale il y a huit enclaves classées au patrimoine mondial de l'UNESCO, notamment de nombreux temples bouddhistes.
Parmi ses attractions les plus célèbres, on trouve les bâtiments en bois les plus anciens et les plus grands du monde, des cerfs domestiques qui divertissent les visiteurs, des fleurs de cerisier et des ninjas. Vous pouvez vous aller à pie partout car les principaux lieux d’intérêt ne sont pas très loin l'un de l'autre.
Tōdai-ji est le temple le plus grand de Nara. Le pavillon principal, le Big Buddha Hall, abrite une célèbre statue de bronze de 15 mètres de haut. À côté du temple il se trouve le parc Nara, où vivent plus de 1 000 cerfs. Les animaux s'approchent souvent des visiteurs en esperant à recevoir des biscuits. Vous pouvez acheter ces bonbons dans les environs du parc pour 150 ¥.
J'espère que cette information soit utile. Si vous avez besoin de plus de recommandations pour votre voyage, il me fera plaisir de vous aider. Peut-être que mon expérience au Japon vous sera utile.
"Ou de faire une partie de la Nakasendô entre Tsumago et Magome, ou visiter le petit donjon du château d'Inuyama et participer à un Ukai sur la rivière Kiso, ... ce ne sont pas les activités qui manquent dans ce coin..."
ou simplement de faire un petit aller-retour sur Matsumoto pour y visiter son très sympathique petit chateau et profiter de la vue sur les Alpes japonaises pendant le trajet qui ne dure qu'une petite heure.
Mise a jour de mon séjour au Japon .. comme c'est dans 2 mois..
J'ai raye Nagano de ma liste.. on y passera l'hiver prochain peu être.
J1- Depart de Tokyo pour Kanazawa - nuit a Kanazawa
J2 - Nuit a Kanazawa -
J3 - Lac Biwa .. nuit a Hikone ?
J4 - Depart pour Nara le matin (via Kyoto que je connais deja) - nuit à Nara
J5 - Nara - Nuit à Nara
J6 - Depart de Nara en milieu d'après-midi et nuit a Osaka (je connais deja Osaka)
J7 - Depart pour tot le matin Kansai-Airport (nous devons y être pour 9 h du matin heure du debut du check in )
Je me pose question l'etape à Hikone .. en fait j'hésite entre 1 nuit supplemetaire a Kanazawa (pour voir les environs) ou une nuit supplémentaire à Nara .
Quel est votre opinion ?
Et pourquoi pas aller directement de Nara à KIX plutôt que de changer une nouvelle fois d'hôtel pour si près ?
Nara 06:52 07:51 08:55
Tennoji 07:30 08:27 09:32
Tennoji 07:38 08:32 09:42
KIX 08:15 09:04 10:32
et ainsi de suite toute la journée
et encore bien d'autres combinaisons selon les heures
Parce que mon mari veut passer la soiree à Osaka pour y voir un ami et que pour la ligne de train Osaka-Kansai les trains sont bcp plus frequents (nous avons pris cette ligne l'année passée et correspondent à notre depart...
Je comprends bien ! j'ai moi même déjà utilisé plusieurs fois chacune des deux relations (Rapi:t de Nankai depuis Namba-Nankai ou Haruka de JR depuis Kyoto ou Tennoji) et chaque fois tôt matin.
Je pense qu'il y a plus "d'environs" à explorer depuis Nara (Yamato, Horyu-ji, Ikomasanjo et Nara lui même) que depuis Kanazawa (sauf si c'est pour aller à Shirakawago). Et profiter de cette journée supplémentaire pour quand même faire un arrêt de quelques heures à Hikone (et peut-être Taga-Taisha) sur le trajet entre Kanazawa et Nara.
En octobre je pars avec mon ami pour 9 jours au Japon. Nous arriverons à Narita et avons prévu de passer 5 jours à Tokyo, 3 jours à Kyoto et 1 journée à Osaka.…
Nous prévoyons de passer deux semaines au Japon (voire un peu plus selon budget) en janvier/février pour terminer notre voyage en Asie. Nous atterirons…
Couple de quinqua/sexa nous "profitons" de notre voyage à Sydney où nous allons rencontrer notre nouvelle petite fille pour faire un AR de 15 jours au Japon…
Ou acheter un billet de train pour voyager entre tokyo et osaka, je cherche pas un rail pass juste un aller simple. Quel prix approximatif??? faut t'il…
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas).
This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima.
I’m looking for suggestions and advice:
Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips...
Do you think it’s possible to do something like this:
5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku)
3 nights in Kyoto
2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo?
2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy...
Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train.
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question:
Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.