Tourisme affecté par les attentats en Thaïlande
by Praline
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Thaïlande: tourisme, investissement, consommation affectés par les attentats
Des agents de sécurité contrôlent un taxi à l'entrée d'un supermarché à Bangkok le 4 janvier 2007
© AFP Pornchai Kittiwongsakul
Quelque 15% des quatre millions de touristes attendus en Thaïlande au premier trimestre pourraient annuler leurs voyages à la suite des attentats du Nouvel An et des risques d'insécurité, a indiqué vendredi un centre de prévisions.
Par ailleurs, la Bourse de Bangkok a encore perdu 3, 09% vendredi dans un climat alourdi par des rumeurs de putsch. Au total, cette semaine, l'index composite des valeurs boursières a chuté de 7, 6%.
Les attentats à la bombe, qui ont fait trois morts et des dizaines de blessés dont neuf étrangers, pourraient causer une perte de revenus touristiques estimée à 555 millions de dollars, a précisé l'institut privé Centre for Economic and Business Forecasting.
Le centre avait déjà cité une prévision de 13, 45 millions de touristes en Thaïlande cette année, générant quelque 11, 8 milliards de dollars.
Vendredi, le Premier ministre issu du putsch de septembre à Bangkok, le général de réserve Surayud Chulanont, a averti ses concitoyens qu'ils devaient se préparer à "un ou deux mois" d'instabilité et il n'a pas exclu de nouvelles explosions.
La Bourse de Bangkok le 5 janvier 2007
© AFP Pornchai Kittiwongsakul
Outre le tourisme, le centre de prévisions a évoqué une chute de la consommation et des investissements au premier trimestre, estimée à 833 millions de dollars. Le taux de croissance pourrait perdre un demi-point par rapport à une projection initiale de 4% pour la même période, a-t-il ajouté.
De son côté, le centre de recherches Kasikorn a indiqué que les bombes du Nouvel An et une réglementation controversée pour contrôler l'afflux de capitaux étrangers pourraient entraîner une baisse sensible des investissements étrangers.
Pour les attentats du Nouvel An, les autorités ont semblé écarter la piste des rebelles musulmans du Sud et ont évoqué des groupes ayant été "dépossédés" du pouvoir après le putsch. Le ministre de la Défense a dit que les attentats auraient été commis par des "hommes en uniforme", c'est-à-dire des policiers ou des militaires.
Le chef de la junte, le général Sonthi Boonyaratglin, a déclaré vendredi à la chaîne de télévision de l'armée que certaines "personnes mal intentionnées" cherchaient à créer "le chaos" en Thaïlande et à détruire "la sécurité nationale". Il a démenti des rumeurs de contre-putsch en préparation.
Le Premier ministre renversé, Thaksin Shinawatra, qui s'est réfugié à l'étranger, a nié toute implication dans les attentats
Mouais .. toutes ces prévisons me paraissent bien alarmistes ..
" Les gens " ont intégré le risque terroriste et là, malgré toutes la douleur des familles touchées par ces bombes, ça n'a pas fait beaucoup de "bruit" puisque dans les médias les quelques morts ont été pas mal occultés par les festivités du nouvel an, les voeux présidentiels et l'éxécution de Sadam.
Amha il n'y aura même pas de fléchissement de la fréquentation ...
" Les gens " ont intégré le risque terroriste et là, malgré toutes la douleur des familles touchées par ces bombes, ça n'a pas fait beaucoup de "bruit" puisque dans les médias les quelques morts ont été pas mal occultés par les festivités du nouvel an, les voeux présidentiels et l'éxécution de Sadam.
Amha il n'y aura même pas de fléchissement de la fréquentation ...
Patrick.
Ce n'est pas une si grande perte, avec seulement 12 millions de touristes par an le revenu du tourisme est minime a compare du reste.
La grosse perte risque d'etre pour la junte: dans les sondages effectues a BKK, en octobre ils avaient le support de 90% des gens, puis 60% en decembre et cette semaine ce n'est plus que 50%.
Ce sont eux qui devraient ce faire des soucis car a la fin du premier trimestre ils auront plus d'impopularite que n'en n'a jamais eu Thaksin.
marraîne d'une enfant Karen qui vit avec sa famille dans un camp de réfugiés en Thaïlande : enfant choisie de par ses origines (Karen et Birmane)
Dans un discours prononcé vendredi à la télévision nationale, le Premier ministre thaïlandais avait prévu que les nouvelles violences pourraient émerger en Thaïlande dans un ou deux mois à venir
nouvelles reçues aujourd'hui lundi
nouvelles reçues aujourd'hui lundi
marraîne d'une enfant Karen qui vit avec sa famille dans un camp de réfugiés en Thaïlande : enfant choisie de par ses origines (Karen et Birmane)
Thuan, tes différents visages ou casquettes ! est-ce un jeu innocent ou est-ce plus complexe ?!!
🙂Oh, grand-mère! Tu en as de grands yeux!
C'est pour mieux te voir, mon enfant! dit le loup en gloussant.
Tu en as de grandes oreilles!
C'est pour mieux t'entendre, mon enfant.
Et tes dents! s'écria le Petit Chaperon Rouge. Tu en as de grandes dents!
C'est pour mieux te manger, mon enfant ! hurla le loup.
Il rejeta la couverture, et griffes en avant, il se précipita vers la petite fille. Criant de toutes ses forces, elle s'échappa vers la porte, mais elle tremblait tellement qu'elle n'arrivait pas à l'ouvrir. Ceylana, attention😉
🙂Oh, grand-mère! Tu en as de grands yeux!
C'est pour mieux te voir, mon enfant! dit le loup en gloussant.
Tu en as de grandes oreilles!
C'est pour mieux t'entendre, mon enfant.
Et tes dents! s'écria le Petit Chaperon Rouge. Tu en as de grandes dents!
C'est pour mieux te manger, mon enfant ! hurla le loup.
Il rejeta la couverture, et griffes en avant, il se précipita vers la petite fille. Criant de toutes ses forces, elle s'échappa vers la porte, mais elle tremblait tellement qu'elle n'arrivait pas à l'ouvrir. Ceylana, attention😉
la morale de l'histoire est souvent mal comprise ! connais-tu l'origine du ou des "chaperon rouge" ? qui le portait, à quel moment de leur existence, et pourquoi ?
je t'avoue qui si j'avais su que c'étais Fantomas qui me répondrait je n'aurai rien dit ! car tu ressemble à un "mort vivant" brrr !
je t'avoue qui si j'avais su que c'étais Fantomas qui me répondrait je n'aurai rien dit ! car tu ressemble à un "mort vivant" brrr !
marraîne d'une enfant Karen qui vit avec sa famille dans un camp de réfugiés en Thaïlande : enfant choisie de par ses origines (Karen et Birmane)
(Photo AP)Thaïlande Etat d'urgence prolongé dans le Sud musulman
La junte militaire en Thaïlande a décidé mercredi de prolonger de trois mois les lois d'urgence dans le Sud musulman.
Les enseignants ont été autorisés à porter des armes en dehors des heures de travail.
L'annonce de ces deux mesures a été perçue comme un durcissement des autorités issues du putsch du 19 septembre après trois mois d'efforts de réconciliation avec la population majoritairement d'ethnie malaise et de confession musulmane.
Les violences liées à des groupes d'insurgés présumés séparatistes et islamistes ont fait plus de 1800 morts depuis janvier 2004 dans les trois provinces les plus méridionales de la Thaïlande, à la frontière malaisienne.
Enseignants armés
En outre, le commandant militaire de la région Sud a déclaré à la presse que si les enseignants le désiraient, ils pourraient être armés «en dehors des heures de travail».
Quelque 65 enseignants, perçus par la guérilla comme des symboles et des collaborateurs de l'Etat thaïlandais, ont été tués depuis le début de l'insurrection dans l'extrême sud. Plus de 110 établissements scolaires ont été incendiés.
Passeports annulés
Par ailleurs, les autorités thaïlandaises ont déclaré mercredi avoir annulé les passeports diplomatiques du premier ministre renversé Thaksin Shinawatra et de son épouse en raison de la dégradation de la sécurité depuis les attentats à la bombe du Nouvel An. Des membres de la junte avaient accusé ses partisans d'être derrière les attaques.
Cependant, «Thaksin et son épouse peuvent présenter des demandes de passeport normal où qu'ils soient», a précisé un porte-parole officiel. «L'annulation (des passeports diplomatiques) est déjà effective et Thaksin en a été informé», a-t-il ajouté.
(...)
marraîne d'une enfant Karen qui vit avec sa famille dans un camp de réfugiés en Thaïlande : enfant choisie de par ses origines (Karen et Birmane)
- Il semble que le tourisme ait été peu affecté par les attentats.
Dans le Bangkok Post de ce jour, il y a un article qui contredit ce catastrophisme, puisque pendant la premiere semaine de janvier 2007, des hotels ont affiché complet, tandis que d'autres ont constaté une stagnation.
Par ailleurs la bourse de Bangkok a pris +2, 5% aujourdhui, du fait du retour des investisseurs étrangers.
Bangkok Post du 11 janvier 2007 - rubrique 'Horizon', article 'Hotels disagree on fallout from blasts'
Je déplore que seules les informations instantanées, dramatiques et sensationnelles, des rumeurs, soient reproduites sur le forum, sans aucun recul, ni sereinité (et simplement copiées-collées).
Exploiter l'émotion et nos réaction "a chaud", ne nous permet pas de nous faire une idée objective de la réalité, ni une analyse sur le long terme. C'est d'autant plus vrai que l'information contraire "optimiste" est omise, comme je le montre dans les exemples ci-dessus: difficile alors de se faire une opinion objective dans ces conditions.
Je ne saisis pas quel est l'interet a vouloir ainsi, ternir délibérément, et quotidiennement, l'image de la Thailande, et entretenir la panique?
Bangkok Post du 11 janvier 2007 - rubrique 'Horizon', article 'Hotels disagree on fallout from blasts'
Je déplore que seules les informations instantanées, dramatiques et sensationnelles, des rumeurs, soient reproduites sur le forum, sans aucun recul, ni sereinité (et simplement copiées-collées).
Exploiter l'émotion et nos réaction "a chaud", ne nous permet pas de nous faire une idée objective de la réalité, ni une analyse sur le long terme. C'est d'autant plus vrai que l'information contraire "optimiste" est omise, comme je le montre dans les exemples ci-dessus: difficile alors de se faire une opinion objective dans ces conditions.
Je ne saisis pas quel est l'interet a vouloir ainsi, ternir délibérément, et quotidiennement, l'image de la Thailande, et entretenir la panique?
Je ne saisis pas quel est l'interet a vouloir ainsi, ternir délibérément, et quotidiennement, l'image de la Thailande, et entretenir la panique?
Bien dit !!!! quand a la reponse a votre question moi je pense que ... c, est une sorte de pouvoir..🤪, enfin du moins ca leur donne l, impression 🙂...
A+ NTT😉
Bien dit !!!! quand a la reponse a votre question moi je pense que ... c, est une sorte de pouvoir..🤪, enfin du moins ca leur donne l, impression 🙂...
A+ NTT😉
sur l, arbre qui donne des pommes il n, y a pas de citrons
En dehors d une présence discrète des militaires à Siam Square ou Patpong tout est calme à Bangkok, allez y et ne craignez rien...
Victoria
Victoria
Victoria
Le titre peut prêter à confusion, mais personne n'a jamais dit que le tourisme était aujourd'hui affecté comme tu sembles le dire..........si tu avais bien lu l'article tu aurais vu que celui-ci est au conditionnel et ne parle que de prévisions !!.... ce ne sont aucunement des infos dramatiques ou sensationnelles, tout simplement des projections prévisionnelles sur le court ou le moyen terme du tourisme en Thailande fait par une centre de prévisions.. c'est tout....pas de quoi s'égosiller ou fouetter un chat surtout quand je lis " vouloir ainsi ternir délibérément et quotidiennement l'image de la Thailande et entretenir la panique....loooll c'est du grand n'importe quoi"
3 morts dans des attentats non revendiqués a Bangkok. 2 morts dans des attentats de l'ETA en Espagne. 1 mort en Corse.... Pour moi perso il n'y as pas grande difference dans les actes (laches). Cependant la maniere dont a été traiter l'info est tres differente et malheureusement pas l'avantage de la Thailande, qui est comparable (si on regarde l'importance du tourisme dans l'economie) au deux autres. Maintenant certains touristes biens avertits par leurs ambassades vont fuir la Thailande... pour l'Espagne ou la Corse peut-etre, pour le plus grand malheur des thais!
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Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!






