Bonjour je cherche des trains panoramique qui vont en montagne, dans la nature en hiver en Suisse. Donc soit des trains panoramique ou des trains touristiques qui amènent les gens vers des glaciers, des lacs ou des vue panoramique mais en hiver, se qui réduit bien sur les possibilités vue la neige sur certaines voies.
Voila je cherche surtout dans la partie Ouest de la Suisse. Je cherche surtout à me balader en train pour voir du paysage , les stations de ski ne m'intéressent pas trop.
Parce que selon ton lieu de résidence, tu peux aller dans des endroits assez éloignés et revenir le soir !
Dans la région ouest (léman ?) tu as plusieurs trains de montagne :
- Rocher de Naye et autres sommets de la région de Vevey-Montreux : www.mob.ch
- trains des compagnies tpc (transports publics du chablais) vers Les Diablerets, leysin...
http://www.tpc.ch/
- trains vers Chamonix et Orsieres depuis Martiny : mont blanc et st bernard express
Sinon tu peux faire un grand parcours avec un des trains mytiques de la suisse :
- glacier express : train pour Brig, puis Glacier Express vers Chur, retour via Zurich. Pour ce train l'astuce est de prendre les trains régionaux : Brig-Andermatt, Andermatt-Disentis, Disentis-Chur. Ils sont sans suppléments et tu peux en profiter pour faire des stop en cours de route entre deux trains. Par exemple à Andermatt, Oberalppass, et profiter pour te restaurer et de la neige.
- Golden pass : train pour Montreux, puis vers Zweisimmen, Interlaken, Lucerne puis retour. Tu as des trains panoramiques à certaines heures.
Les trains de la région de la jungfrau sont splendides. Coté tarif je te conseille d'acheter un forfait snow'n rail incluant le ski pass. Ainsi les trains pour Murren, Kleine Scheidegg sont valable en libre circulation, cela revient beaucoup moins cher.
Tu peux également aller sur Zermatt. De la tu peux prendre le train pour le Gornergrat avec vue magnifique sur le cervin. Pour ce genre d'excursions, consultes les brochures railaway permettant des offres combinées train+excursion, elles sont disponibles en gares ou sous www.railaway.ch
Une ligne qui est tres belle mais tombée un peu dans l'anonymat est Brig Spiez (-Berne) par le Lötschberg. Il n'y a plus qu'un train régional toutes les heures qui circule, mais la ligne est magnifique, la descente sur la vallée du Rhone impressionnante !
As tu l'abonnement demi tarif ? Si oui, tu peux acheter une carte journaliere, ou une carte journaliere 9 heures si tu parts apres 9 heures ou toute la journée le week end.
Si tu veux d'autres exemples de parcours, n'hésites pas à demander. Dans la région des Grisons tu as le Bernina Express qui est magique, mais un night stop est indispensable depuis l'ouest de la suisse. De Bale ou de Zurich le trajet est faisable mais avec départ tot et retour tard, de Zurich les horaires sont plus raisonnables.
Tu peux également tester des lignes de car postal, passer des cols en plein hiver est magnifique !
Merci pour ces réponses! J'ai déjà de quoi faire. 😎
Pour répondre à viadi , oui je pense prendre la carte demi tarif , je dois encore regarder les conditions vue que je reste deux mois et demi et je serais sur Lausanne, donc région du léman, Vaud...En fait je pense faire une ou deux grosses excursion, et certainement prendre le glacier express sa m'a l'air grandiose.
Alors par contre j'ai jamais était en haute montagne l'hiver quand il y à de la neige ect, donc je voulais savoir si il y avait beaucoup de problèmes avec la neige avec ce type de trains? ( retards, annulations) selon les conditions.Jvais essayer de voir aussi du coté de la région de la jungfrau et ces trains.
Sinon à part les excursions en trains je compte aller voir quelques lacs, comme le lac de joux en espérant qu'il soit geler quand j'irais de ce coté et bien sur visiter quelques villes suisse et la région du Léman.
Si oui, tu verras dans les gares CFF pres des écrans indiquant les arrivées/départs un écran indiquant les pertubations d'exploitations.
Pour parler du trajet du Glacier Express, plusieurs axes ont été fermés il y a quelques semaines. Je crois que c'était Fiesch-Oberwald, Realp-Andermatt, Andermatt-Sedrun. Cette dernière section passe à ciel ouvert le col de l'oberalppass. Récemment un train a été emporté dans un avalanche. La décision de fermer la ligne venait d'etre prise mais le train en question devait continuer jusqu'à Andermatt ! Pas de blessés graves, passagers evacués en chasse neige.
Généralement les fermetures durent seulement quelques jours.
La légende dit que en Suisse tu peux regler ta montre sur le passage du train, ils sont toujours à l'heure. En réalité ils ont quelques retards, mais c'est rarement du à la météo, plus du à l'affluance ou des attentes de trains croiseurs. Pour avoir utilisé très fréquemment les trains suisses, la majorité des retards sont de 15 minutes maximum et très majoritairement de 5 à 10 minutes.
Effectivement la ligne du Pilatus est très raide. Elle est exploitée par un matériel ressemblant à un funiculaire. Cependant elle est fermée en hiver mais le sommet est accessible par l'autre versant depuis Lucerne en téléphérique.
Coté déclivités impressionnantes tu as le train du Wengernalpbahn entre Grindelwald et Kleine Scheidegg à 25%, le Zentralbahn en arrivant sur Engelberg. Tu as l'impression que le train grimpe aux arbres. Sur la premiere ligne, si tu te mets juste derriere le poste de conduite dans les nouvelles rames Stadler dans le sens de la descente, tu as un peu l'impression de faire plusieurs plongeons et tu "pries" pour que les freins ne lachent pas !
Dans la même zone géographique, je ne peux que te conseiller d'utiliser le téléphérique pour redescendre de Murren vers Stechelberg. Tu as vraiment l'impression de plonger dans le vide. Le parcours circulaire interessant pour Murren est Lauterbrunnen - téléphérique - train BLM - Mürren et redescnedre sur Stechelberg puis correspondance car postal pour Lauterbrunnen. A l'arret Winteregg sur la ligne du BLM tu as un sympatique restaurant avec une vue magnifique sur les sommets. Tu peux facilement faire l'ensemble du parcours Murren/Wengen/Kleine Scheidegg/Grindelwald dans la journée. Se munir de l'offre Snow'n Rail Jungfrauregion est l'idéal, cela comprend tous les transports illimité sur place.
Peut etre cela sera trop loin pour toi, mais une autre ligne impressionnante est celle de l'Albula et de la Bernina, récemment classées au patrimoine de l'humanité. Le viaduc de la Landwasser, juste avant d'arriver à Filisur, est unique. Un viaduc en courbe qui rentre directement dans la roche. Le parcours ensuite vers Preda est très orginal, surnommé le "grand huit alpin". Le train fait de nombreux virages sur lui même, tu passes jusqu'à 3 fois au même endroit à des hauteurs différentes ! La ligne de la Bernina est magique. C'est le plus haut passage alpin à ciel ouvert. Que ce soit en été ou en hiver, tu as l'impression d'etre dans un autre monde : paysage lunaire en été, une mer blanche en hiver. Un environnement d'apparance hostile et inhospitalier, mais tellement fascinant. Si tu as peu de temps, tu peux te limiter à l'arret Alp Grum au début de la descente du col avec un beau panorama sur la vallée. Généralement tu peux y faire un stop de 1/2 heure en attendant le train en sens inverse. Si tu as le temps, la descente vers l'Italie à Tirano est très belle, avec plusieurs paliers et le fameux viaduc de Brusio, ou le train trourne sur lui même ! Tu as des informations et images sous : www.rhb.ch
Peut etre peux tu faire un week end sur 2 jours : jour 1 Lausanne - Brig - Andermatt - Chur. Night stop (par exemple à l'hotel Ibis assez facile d'acces et pas trop cher). jour 2 : Chur - Albula - Bernina - Alp Grum - St Moritz - Albula - Chur - puis retour sur lausanne via Zurich - Berne ou Bienne (env.3h30 depuis Chur sur lsne)
Ma principale astuce meilleur marché : outre l'abonnement demi tarif et la carte journaliere, utilises les trains régionaux. Non seulement tu ne paieras pas de supplément couteux pour des voitures panoramiques, mais aussi tu pourras faire quelques arrets d'une heure entre deux trains pour visiter un village ou simplement profiter de la montagne comme par exemple en haut du col de l'Oberalp. Les trains régionaux de ces compagnies sont très confortables, peut etre plus d'affluance mais qui sera limitée en matinée/soirée les week end.
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Voyager en train › Suisse / France › Est · 15 replies
Est il possible de reserver et payer (ONLINE) un billet de train à l'avance pour la liaison Bâle - Mulhouse? Parce que je l'ai pas trouvé Même sur le fameux…
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas).
This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima.
I’m looking for suggestions and advice:
Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips...
Do you think it’s possible to do something like this:
5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku)
3 nights in Kyoto
2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo?
2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy...
Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train.
Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question:
Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
