travailler en guadeloupe ou martinique en restauration
by Puechberty
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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j ai le desir de partir travailler dans une de ces iles le plus rapidement possible dans le secteur de la restauration, bar, .mon but etant de voir si je peux m'adapter car j ai le desir de creer ou reprendre une affaire. avez vous des contacts ou conseils a me soumettre, des endroits suceptibles de m'interesser? concernant ma profession, y a t'il plus de deboucher dans une de ces 2 iles? pensez vous qu'il est facile de trouver un job rapidement si je desire venir sans rien?
je vous remercie d'avance pour votre collaboration.
bonjour ami réveur de voyage et de coin de paradis. Je ne travaille pas dans la même branche que toi mais j'ai vécu 2 ans en guadeloupe. Je peux te témoigner de ce que j'ai vu et entendu de la part des métros qui étaient là bas. Tu demandes d'abord qu'elle île choisir : la martinique serait plus accueillante. En guadeloupe, les locaux te diront clairement que les blancs n'ont rien à faire chez eux. "gwada pai an nou" traduction la guadeloupe c'est notre pays! Néanmoins pour ne pas te décourager et être impartiale je dirais que tous les locaux ne sont pas comme çà.
branche toi sur France O et regardes les journaux télévisés des 2 iles ils te donneront un aperçu du climat social du moment.
Le domaine du tourisme est malade en guadeloupe (je ne sais pas pour la martinique) les dernières "frasques" des locaux c'est la destruction complète d'un hotel à Saint François suite à une nième grève qui a mal tournée!!!
La guadeloupe comme la martinique sont deux départements français, ceux qui partent en s'imaginant retrouver la vie de la France avec le soleil en plus se font des illusions énormes qui peuvent faire tourner un séjour en catastrophe. Bien se renseigner avant de partir.
je suis à ta disposition si tu veux en savoir plus
bon courage et bonne préparation
ISABELLE
Bonjour, apres 3 mois en guadeloupe je repars avec des impressions mitigées. Je rejoins votre point de vue sur l'accueil des locaux ("gwada pia an nou" je l'ai aussi entendu). Ayant travaillé pour Pierre et Vacance, j'étais au coeur du tourisme et je confirme que pour une pleine saison elle était plutot vide.
J'aimerais votre avis sur les tarifs, car pour moi il était clair qu'il existe un tarif local et tarif pour touriste (ou metro) exemple:la baguette 75cents pour la femme devant moi (locale) et 85cents pour moi. Je lui demande "pourquoi" et elle me repond que ce n'est pas le meme pain, pourtant j'affirme que la dame avait demandé elle aussi une baguette, mais je ne discuter pas plus.La coco, piege a touriste? 1euro pour les locaux, et 1euro 25 pour moi il m'explique que 25cents servent au tranport, j'en deduis que certains payent le transport et d'autre pas, sur quel critere se base t'il?2e50 le café dans un petit lolo (parce qu'il est allongé?)J'ai eu à quelque repris, a devoir demander de revoir l'addition au restaurant, et toujours il y avait une petite erreur de 2, 3euro (rien de mechant, quoi que sur un plat a 8euro on voit la difference) et toujours les memes reponses : "ah oui, c'est moi je me suis trompé". En temps que serveuse je suis plien placé pour dire que les pourboires ne se font pas sur les erreures;un passage chez Laposte qui m'avait marqué, pas sur les 2h30 d'attente, mais la bonne femme au guichet. Je vais, bien contente, deposer ma paye (720euro en liquide, travaille au black j'avoue..) elle m'arrete et me vante les merites des envellopes timbrées avec illustration des beaux paysages de la Guadeloupe, je m'étonne voyant qu'il y a une queue de 20personnes derriere moi et juste elle seule au guichet, je refuse et elle commence le comptage des billets, elle me sort un recu de 700 euro sans me demander si c'était bien la somme, et me demande de signer. Je lui demande de recompter car il ya erreure, elle me retorque quelque chose en creole (pas très sympa vu le thon), et elle me fait sans recompter un autre recu de 20 euro pour completer mes 720euro. aussi on ne trouve pas toujours le prix sur les produits, les tarifs sont ils fait sur la tete du client? exemple: pour la recherche d'un logement, j'appelle sur les annonces, je ne parle pas creole ou simplement je n'ai pas l'accent, lorsque je demande le prix il y a un certain temps de reflexion (est ce que c'est mon imagination?)
L'idée de payer plus chere car j'étais pas noire m'avait obsédé, ce n'était pas du racisme anti blanc plutot racisme sur celui qui n'est pas noir. Je precise que les exemples sont visés sur des commercants en particulier et ne font pas une generalité. mais pour moi, en 3 mois j'ai tellement vecu de petite arnaque chez les locaux que j'ai fini par faire mes courses au leader price. Un petit echec.
J'aimerais votre avis sur les tarifs, car pour moi il était clair qu'il existe un tarif local et tarif pour touriste (ou metro) exemple:la baguette 75cents pour la femme devant moi (locale) et 85cents pour moi. Je lui demande "pourquoi" et elle me repond que ce n'est pas le meme pain, pourtant j'affirme que la dame avait demandé elle aussi une baguette, mais je ne discuter pas plus.La coco, piege a touriste? 1euro pour les locaux, et 1euro 25 pour moi il m'explique que 25cents servent au tranport, j'en deduis que certains payent le transport et d'autre pas, sur quel critere se base t'il?2e50 le café dans un petit lolo (parce qu'il est allongé?)J'ai eu à quelque repris, a devoir demander de revoir l'addition au restaurant, et toujours il y avait une petite erreur de 2, 3euro (rien de mechant, quoi que sur un plat a 8euro on voit la difference) et toujours les memes reponses : "ah oui, c'est moi je me suis trompé". En temps que serveuse je suis plien placé pour dire que les pourboires ne se font pas sur les erreures;un passage chez Laposte qui m'avait marqué, pas sur les 2h30 d'attente, mais la bonne femme au guichet. Je vais, bien contente, deposer ma paye (720euro en liquide, travaille au black j'avoue..) elle m'arrete et me vante les merites des envellopes timbrées avec illustration des beaux paysages de la Guadeloupe, je m'étonne voyant qu'il y a une queue de 20personnes derriere moi et juste elle seule au guichet, je refuse et elle commence le comptage des billets, elle me sort un recu de 700 euro sans me demander si c'était bien la somme, et me demande de signer. Je lui demande de recompter car il ya erreure, elle me retorque quelque chose en creole (pas très sympa vu le thon), et elle me fait sans recompter un autre recu de 20 euro pour completer mes 720euro. aussi on ne trouve pas toujours le prix sur les produits, les tarifs sont ils fait sur la tete du client? exemple: pour la recherche d'un logement, j'appelle sur les annonces, je ne parle pas creole ou simplement je n'ai pas l'accent, lorsque je demande le prix il y a un certain temps de reflexion (est ce que c'est mon imagination?)
L'idée de payer plus chere car j'étais pas noire m'avait obsédé, ce n'était pas du racisme anti blanc plutot racisme sur celui qui n'est pas noir. Je precise que les exemples sont visés sur des commercants en particulier et ne font pas une generalité. mais pour moi, en 3 mois j'ai tellement vecu de petite arnaque chez les locaux que j'ai fini par faire mes courses au leader price. Un petit echec.
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dans le domaine de la restauration, en guadeloupe, tu trouveras probablement assez rapidement un emploi qui te permettra au moins de "tater le terrain", notamment vers les coins ou ça "bouge" un peu plus (gosier...). par contre, fait bien attention a bien lire et relire ton contrat (si contrat il y a)... attention aux arnaques... et veilles a bien te faire payer... ça parait bete... mais j'ai entendu pas mal de gens se plaindre de salaire impayé...🤪
celine (guadeloupe, france)
http://www.vivre-en-guadeloupe.fr/
je lis au travers de ton message une grande déception. Et je te comprends pour avoir vécu le rêve de la guadeloupe ( terre de mes ancètres d'il y a 7 générations ) Toute expérience enrichie la vie! Les leçons s'apprennent à tout âge. Oh voila que je philosophe.
La réalité du terrain est telle que tu l'as décrite : mais en plus il y a 4 tarifs dans les commerces locaux : le plus cher pour le "blanc" touriste, en dessous pour le "blanc" qui habite le lieu, en dessous pour le local mais pas du coin, en dernier pour le local du coin.
Quand tu as compris cela tu vas effectivement faire tes courses au leader price le plus proche. Ce ne doit pas être considéré comme un échec par toi . Le "sport national" du guadeloupéen c'est de "couillonner" (terme du pays) l'autre. Si cela fonctionne il est content mais si cela ne marche pas il en rit en attendant le prochain essai. Donc ils ont choisi de couillonner sur les prix dans le commerce de proximité et bien tant pis pour eux. Tu as trouvé ta solution.
Si tu tiens malgré tout à faire des courses dans un commerce local : voici un conseil de savoir vivre antillais : quand tu rentres dans la boutique (quelque soit sa taille) tu dis bonjour à voix haute ou bonsoir dès que midi ont sonné. au début n'attend pas de réponse mais tu seras "bien vu" car polie. si tu fréquentes toujours le même établissement et que tu parles avec les gens, tu verras les prix s'améliorer . Ne perds pas courage.
Si tu y es bien, reste en guadeloupe, mais regarde la société guadeloupéenne avec des yeux neufs (et non européens) il y a de belles choses à découvrir malgré tout. A+ si tu veux d'autres infos
ISABELLE
La réalité du terrain est telle que tu l'as décrite : mais en plus il y a 4 tarifs dans les commerces locaux : le plus cher pour le "blanc" touriste, en dessous pour le "blanc" qui habite le lieu, en dessous pour le local mais pas du coin, en dernier pour le local du coin.
Je dirais même qu'il y a 6 tarifs.
1) pour le "blanc" touriste 2) pour le "blanc pays" 3)"l'antillais qui vit en métropole" 4)le noir qu'on ne connais pas 5)le noir du voisinage 6)la famille et les amis proches
Comme tu dit en Gwada, il y a pas de racisme anti-blanc mais plutôt une "jalousie incompréhensible" envers celui qui n'est pas du coin surtout de la part des commerçants...sous prétexte qu'on vive en métropole ils croient qu'on est pleins aux as que l'on soit antillais ou pas !! Parfois j'ai l'impression d'être une étrangère dans l'île natale de ma mère, c'est pour dire !!
C'est pour cette raison que je n'envisage pas de m'y installer plus tard....je m'étonne toujours de constater qu'il y autant de métros qui veulent s'y installer.....Moi à leur place j'opterais pour l'amérique latine, on y trouve la même culture, quasiment les mêmes mets, on y vit beaucoup mieux, seule la langue diffère mais ce n'et qu'un détail !!
Je dirais même qu'il y a 6 tarifs.
1) pour le "blanc" touriste 2) pour le "blanc pays" 3)"l'antillais qui vit en métropole" 4)le noir qu'on ne connais pas 5)le noir du voisinage 6)la famille et les amis proches
Comme tu dit en Gwada, il y a pas de racisme anti-blanc mais plutôt une "jalousie incompréhensible" envers celui qui n'est pas du coin surtout de la part des commerçants...sous prétexte qu'on vive en métropole ils croient qu'on est pleins aux as que l'on soit antillais ou pas !! Parfois j'ai l'impression d'être une étrangère dans l'île natale de ma mère, c'est pour dire !!
C'est pour cette raison que je n'envisage pas de m'y installer plus tard....je m'étonne toujours de constater qu'il y autant de métros qui veulent s'y installer.....Moi à leur place j'opterais pour l'amérique latine, on y trouve la même culture, quasiment les mêmes mets, on y vit beaucoup mieux, seule la langue diffère mais ce n'et qu'un détail !!
"Une suite de petites volontés fait un gros résultat."
Charles Beaudelaire
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In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)
Hi everyone, so I’m planning to go study at a community college in the U.S., but the only snag is which one—there are so many options over there! I’ve heard about one in California, Diablo Valley College, and another in Florida, Valencia College. I know both states are super attractive for tourism, but my main criteria are teaching quality and price. I’m open to any advice, comments, or suggestions—thanks in advance! The start of the semester is coming up, and I’m a little nervous...
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Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Has anyone gone on a language study trip in Europe? If so, which agencies did you use? What can you tell me about it? Thanks a lot! Kelkune
Hi! I’m looking for an apartment in Malaga from September (2025) until January for my Erasmus exchange, but I’m not finding much, and it seems like there are a lot of scams. Does anyone have any leads or tips? Thanks!^^





