Trek dans la vallée d'Alamut, de Garmarud à Yuj
by Clogrenoble
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous souhaitons faire un trek de 3 jours dans la vallée de Alamut en faisant appel à un muletier pour nous guider, porter nos bagages et nous introduire chez l'habitant pour le logement et le repas du soir. Est il facile d'organiser sur place ce type de le trek ?
Merci pour toutes les informations que vous pourrez nous donner.
bonjour,
La vallee est certes desservie par qques taxis, mais les distances sont grandes et ses rares magasins sont tres distants les uns des autres. Je pense qu il y a peu a preparer, sinon faire des provisions a Qazvin et a vous faire deposer avec vos sacs par un taxi au premier col. Le reste est du fun pur... Je recommande octobre pour cette vallee : http://inthegapbetween.free.fr/pierre/cities-of-iran/ct_alamut.pdf
Dans le meme ordre de balade, il y a aussi la proche vallee de Taleqan. Elle est est certes moins enclavee, mais tu peux la rejoindre depuis la vallee d Alamut , precisement au niveau du Mt Taleqan (route peu carossable, Zamyad obligatoire apres septembre).
La vallee est certes desservie par qques taxis, mais les distances sont grandes et ses rares magasins sont tres distants les uns des autres. Je pense qu il y a peu a preparer, sinon faire des provisions a Qazvin et a vous faire deposer avec vos sacs par un taxi au premier col. Le reste est du fun pur... Je recommande octobre pour cette vallee : http://inthegapbetween.free.fr/pierre/cities-of-iran/ct_alamut.pdf
Dans le meme ordre de balade, il y a aussi la proche vallee de Taleqan. Elle est est certes moins enclavee, mais tu peux la rejoindre depuis la vallee d Alamut , precisement au niveau du Mt Taleqan (route peu carossable, Zamyad obligatoire apres septembre).
PPP
Merci Turbi pour ta réponse et les magnifiques photo's qui donnent envie de vite découvrir la région.
Le trek que nous avons projeté de faire semble compliqué à mettre en place à moins que tu puisses nous fournir plus de détails car malheureusement nous ne disposons pas de beaucoup de temps pour nous permettre de passer plusieurs jours à l'organiser sur place et nous sommes 4 adultes et un ado.
Nous n'avons pas de tente et souhaitons dormir et manger le soir chez l'habitant.
Que penses tu du plan suivant : Teheran - Gazvin en bus Gazvin - Gazor Khan en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix) Garmarud ( nuit dans un hotel ou chez l'habitant ? et trouver un muletier : as tu des adresses et prix ? ) Pichebon via Salambar pass Salajanbar - Maran Maran - Yuj Yuj - Tonekabon en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix ?)
Merci encore pour tes "tuyaux"
Que penses tu du plan suivant : Teheran - Gazvin en bus Gazvin - Gazor Khan en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix) Garmarud ( nuit dans un hotel ou chez l'habitant ? et trouver un muletier : as tu des adresses et prix ? ) Pichebon via Salambar pass Salajanbar - Maran Maran - Yuj Yuj - Tonekabon en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix ?)
Merci encore pour tes "tuyaux"
Helas, ma carte n'a pas la précision de la tienne. Les seuls échos que j'ai est que l'hébergement est possible à Ghazor Khan, mais ensuite, tu empruntes des sentiers trop isolés. Je te recommande de prendre la tente, par prudence. Si tu campes, choisis des coins suffisamment isolés pour éviter les rondes éventuelles de police.
Concernant les taxis, il est possible que le Qazvin -Ghazor Khan te charge l'aller-retour, car ca n'est pas facile pour lui de trouver des clients pour la course retour (du moins avant Mo'alem Kelayeh).
Suivrez vous la "Se Hezar road" de bout en bout aprés Maran? De même que pour Ghazor Khan , il n'est pas sûr qu'un autre savari gilaki te tende les bras coté Maran ( ou Yuj, je n'ai pas saisi ou démarre la liaison finale). Pour assurer cette récupération, soit vous vous armez de patience pour arrêter un taxi suffisament vide, soit vous fixez rendez-vous à un taxi pro au point de chute prévu, en supposant qu'il est carrossable. Cette dernière manip vous coutera un max. (Le cas échéant, mieux vaut une agence de taxi ou une agence de voyage à Qazvin ou à Tonekabon, plutot qu'une mauvaise nego au carrefour de la route d'Alamut/Qazvin).
J'ai déjà entendu parler de telles traversées organisées du massif, soit à pied, soit à moto, mais je ne connais pas les routes favorites ( via Kelardasht, Chalus, etc...). Soyez prudents aussi avec l'orientation. Je sais bien que le GPS rends tout possible, mais la vallée compte trés, trés peu de signalisation.
Concernant les taxis, il est possible que le Qazvin -Ghazor Khan te charge l'aller-retour, car ca n'est pas facile pour lui de trouver des clients pour la course retour (du moins avant Mo'alem Kelayeh).
Suivrez vous la "Se Hezar road" de bout en bout aprés Maran? De même que pour Ghazor Khan , il n'est pas sûr qu'un autre savari gilaki te tende les bras coté Maran ( ou Yuj, je n'ai pas saisi ou démarre la liaison finale). Pour assurer cette récupération, soit vous vous armez de patience pour arrêter un taxi suffisament vide, soit vous fixez rendez-vous à un taxi pro au point de chute prévu, en supposant qu'il est carrossable. Cette dernière manip vous coutera un max. (Le cas échéant, mieux vaut une agence de taxi ou une agence de voyage à Qazvin ou à Tonekabon, plutot qu'une mauvaise nego au carrefour de la route d'Alamut/Qazvin).
J'ai déjà entendu parler de telles traversées organisées du massif, soit à pied, soit à moto, mais je ne connais pas les routes favorites ( via Kelardasht, Chalus, etc...). Soyez prudents aussi avec l'orientation. Je sais bien que le GPS rends tout possible, mais la vallée compte trés, trés peu de signalisation.
PPP
Merci Tobi, nous apprécions beaucoup tes conseils. Nous avons contacté une agence à Teheran qui se met en relation avec un guide qui nous accompagnera et trouvera des hebergements chez l'habitant pour les 2 nuits de trek.
Pourriez-vous poster ici les détails fournis par l'agence (tarifs, étapes) ? Sur Google earth j'ai l'impression que la piste venant de yuj a pas mal progressé vers la vallée.
N'hésitez pas à faire un petit compte rendu à votre retour.
Yves
N'hésitez pas à faire un petit compte rendu à votre retour.
Yves
Pour info, vous prévoyez de faire la rando à quelle période ? Peut être y serions nous aussi ...
J'ai trouvé cette trace GPS avec le profil alti : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
J'ai trouvé cette trace GPS avec le profil alti : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
Bonjour
Merci à tous pour vos réponses et désolée pour ma réponse tardive.
Nous envisageons de faire le Trek en Aout et les agences Iraniennes contactées (Caspian Trek and Alamut trekking) nous proposent des prix à 1500 euros pour 2 jours de trek, c'est délirant !
Nous souhaitons avoir un guide car les sentiers ne sont pas indiquées et la question est de savoir s'il est facile de trouver sur place un muletier disposé à nous accompagner.
Hello,
J'avais bien compris que tu comptais t'y rendre en août, reste à savoir quand précisément, vu que ça sera également mon cas.
Oui les tarifs que tu as obtenus sont délirants.
Il semble qu'il existe maintenant un hébergement à Garmaroud (point de départ souvent utilisé) dont le proprio peut aider à trouver un muletier (qui ne parlera donc pas anglais) pour t'emmener au col ou jusqu'à Maran/Yuj.
J'avais bien compris que tu comptais t'y rendre en août, reste à savoir quand précisément, vu que ça sera également mon cas.
Oui les tarifs que tu as obtenus sont délirants.
Il semble qu'il existe maintenant un hébergement à Garmaroud (point de départ souvent utilisé) dont le proprio peut aider à trouver un muletier (qui ne parlera donc pas anglais) pour t'emmener au col ou jusqu'à Maran/Yuj.
Nous prévoyons de démarrer le trek vers le 16 ou 17 août
NB: Le prix indiqué dans mon message précédent est pour 5 personnes et inclut tous les repas et 2 nuitées
Bonjour,
Effectivement, nous avons contacté la même agence : 500 euros pour 3 jours de trek pour 2 personnes, c'est un prix délirant ! Nous pensons faire la même chose, en aout aussi, trouver un muletier sur place (prix annoncé sur LP 50dollars pour 3 jours). Des connaissances ont pu faire ce trek seuls, j'attends leur précisions. Ils voulaient passer la nuit à la belle étoile mais les locaux les ont toujours invités dormir chez eux.
Sinon, une trace GPS de ce sentier est disponible ici : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
Eloise
Effectivement, nous avons contacté la même agence : 500 euros pour 3 jours de trek pour 2 personnes, c'est un prix délirant ! Nous pensons faire la même chose, en aout aussi, trouver un muletier sur place (prix annoncé sur LP 50dollars pour 3 jours). Des connaissances ont pu faire ce trek seuls, j'attends leur précisions. Ils voulaient passer la nuit à la belle étoile mais les locaux les ont toujours invités dormir chez eux.
Sinon, une trace GPS de ce sentier est disponible ici : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
Eloise
Bonjour,
Ayant grosso modo le même projet de randonnée que ceux qui ont été évoqués plus haut par Eloise123 et Clogrenoble (dans mon cas, il aurait lieu dans les derniers jours de mars), je voulais savoir si vous aviez finalement pu réaliser le trek que vous souhaitiez faire ? Si oui, avez-vous trouvé facilement sur place un guide / muletier, ou une agence susceptible d'organiser cela sans atteindre des coûts faramineux ? Auriez-vous des contacts ou autres informations à me communiquer ?
Merci d'avance !
Ayant grosso modo le même projet de randonnée que ceux qui ont été évoqués plus haut par Eloise123 et Clogrenoble (dans mon cas, il aurait lieu dans les derniers jours de mars), je voulais savoir si vous aviez finalement pu réaliser le trek que vous souhaitiez faire ? Si oui, avez-vous trouvé facilement sur place un guide / muletier, ou une agence susceptible d'organiser cela sans atteindre des coûts faramineux ? Auriez-vous des contacts ou autres informations à me communiquer ?
Merci d'avance !
bonjour
Nous avons réalisé le trek en négociant depuis la France avec Farin Malik qui a une agence dédiée à ce type d'activités; tu peux parcourir son site qui est excellent à l'adresse suivante
http://alamuttrek.com/
Trek magnifique, organisation et logistique sensationnelles.
Prix 1130 Euros pour 5 personnes . Ci_dessous, détail du tarif.
Start date : on the 17th of August from QAZVIN in the morning ( time >> and hotel name to be confirmed) This includes transfer by cars from >> Qazvin to Garmarood with a stop in Gazorkhan to visit Castle of >> Assassins, The services for the trekking include 1 mule, 1 local >> guide >> 2 nights lodging in a home stay for 5 people (1 night in Garmarood >> and >> 1 night in Piche Bon), food (1 cooked dinner in the home stay and the >> rest breakfast and snacks as lunch this means cheese , dates, bread, >> eggs, potatoes, tuna fish etc, tea or infusion made by the guide), >> The return journey for the guide and his mule. Plus lodging and food >> for the guide. >> The transfer by car from Yuj to Tonekabon or Ramsar. Bon voyage
Start date : on the 17th of August from QAZVIN in the morning ( time >> and hotel name to be confirmed) This includes transfer by cars from >> Qazvin to Garmarood with a stop in Gazorkhan to visit Castle of >> Assassins, The services for the trekking include 1 mule, 1 local >> guide >> 2 nights lodging in a home stay for 5 people (1 night in Garmarood >> and >> 1 night in Piche Bon), food (1 cooked dinner in the home stay and the >> rest breakfast and snacks as lunch this means cheese , dates, bread, >> eggs, potatoes, tuna fish etc, tea or infusion made by the guide), >> The return journey for the guide and his mule. Plus lodging and food >> for the guide. >> The transfer by car from Yuj to Tonekabon or Ramsar. Bon voyage
Bonjour,
Merci pour ces informations. Nous partons en Iran fin juillet. J'ai contacté ce guide également. Il nous propose un tarif de 860 euros pour 2 pour 4 jours de randonnée (5 nuits), avec repas, nuits et transfert vers Tonekabon. Votre guide ne parlait-il que le Farsi ? Pour un guide anglophone, on nous demande 600 euros de plus...
Merci beaucoup !
Merci pour ces informations. Nous partons en Iran fin juillet. J'ai contacté ce guide également. Il nous propose un tarif de 860 euros pour 2 pour 4 jours de randonnée (5 nuits), avec repas, nuits et transfert vers Tonekabon. Votre guide ne parlait-il que le Farsi ? Pour un guide anglophone, on nous demande 600 euros de plus...
Merci beaucoup !
Bonjour,
Une alternative à la route goudronnée entre Garmaroud et Pichebon est d'aller à Narmelat par le sentier qui traverse la rivière 5min après la sortie de Garmaroud. Là on se retrouve dans une vallée magnifique. La vue du col est splendide. Ensuite de Narmelat, possibilité d'aller à Dineh Roud. Puis retour par la route à Garmaroud.
Pierre
Une alternative à la route goudronnée entre Garmaroud et Pichebon est d'aller à Narmelat par le sentier qui traverse la rivière 5min après la sortie de Garmaroud. Là on se retrouve dans une vallée magnifique. La vue du col est splendide. Ensuite de Narmelat, possibilité d'aller à Dineh Roud. Puis retour par la route à Garmaroud.
Pierre
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Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
Spots where we could pitch the tent near a stream
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
I’m looking for half-day hikes near Karakol (not Jety-Oguz, since I’ll be heading there separately—max 30 minutes’ drive to the trailhead).
I can find longer treks, but nothing for a short outing!
So, if you’ve got any ideas...
Thanks! :)
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.






