Trek dans la vallée d'Alamut, de Garmarud à Yuj
by Clogrenoble
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous souhaitons faire un trek de 3 jours dans la vallée de Alamut en faisant appel à un muletier pour nous guider, porter nos bagages et nous introduire chez l'habitant pour le logement et le repas du soir. Est il facile d'organiser sur place ce type de le trek ?
Merci pour toutes les informations que vous pourrez nous donner.
bonjour,
La vallee est certes desservie par qques taxis, mais les distances sont grandes et ses rares magasins sont tres distants les uns des autres. Je pense qu il y a peu a preparer, sinon faire des provisions a Qazvin et a vous faire deposer avec vos sacs par un taxi au premier col. Le reste est du fun pur... Je recommande octobre pour cette vallee : http://inthegapbetween.free.fr/pierre/cities-of-iran/ct_alamut.pdf
Dans le meme ordre de balade, il y a aussi la proche vallee de Taleqan. Elle est est certes moins enclavee, mais tu peux la rejoindre depuis la vallee d Alamut , precisement au niveau du Mt Taleqan (route peu carossable, Zamyad obligatoire apres septembre).
La vallee est certes desservie par qques taxis, mais les distances sont grandes et ses rares magasins sont tres distants les uns des autres. Je pense qu il y a peu a preparer, sinon faire des provisions a Qazvin et a vous faire deposer avec vos sacs par un taxi au premier col. Le reste est du fun pur... Je recommande octobre pour cette vallee : http://inthegapbetween.free.fr/pierre/cities-of-iran/ct_alamut.pdf
Dans le meme ordre de balade, il y a aussi la proche vallee de Taleqan. Elle est est certes moins enclavee, mais tu peux la rejoindre depuis la vallee d Alamut , precisement au niveau du Mt Taleqan (route peu carossable, Zamyad obligatoire apres septembre).
PPP
Merci Turbi pour ta réponse et les magnifiques photo's qui donnent envie de vite découvrir la région.
Le trek que nous avons projeté de faire semble compliqué à mettre en place à moins que tu puisses nous fournir plus de détails car malheureusement nous ne disposons pas de beaucoup de temps pour nous permettre de passer plusieurs jours à l'organiser sur place et nous sommes 4 adultes et un ado.
Nous n'avons pas de tente et souhaitons dormir et manger le soir chez l'habitant.
Que penses tu du plan suivant : Teheran - Gazvin en bus Gazvin - Gazor Khan en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix) Garmarud ( nuit dans un hotel ou chez l'habitant ? et trouver un muletier : as tu des adresses et prix ? ) Pichebon via Salambar pass Salajanbar - Maran Maran - Yuj Yuj - Tonekabon en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix ?)
Merci encore pour tes "tuyaux"
Que penses tu du plan suivant : Teheran - Gazvin en bus Gazvin - Gazor Khan en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix) Garmarud ( nuit dans un hotel ou chez l'habitant ? et trouver un muletier : as tu des adresses et prix ? ) Pichebon via Salambar pass Salajanbar - Maran Maran - Yuj Yuj - Tonekabon en savari ( est ce possible et à quel prix ?)
Merci encore pour tes "tuyaux"
Helas, ma carte n'a pas la précision de la tienne. Les seuls échos que j'ai est que l'hébergement est possible à Ghazor Khan, mais ensuite, tu empruntes des sentiers trop isolés. Je te recommande de prendre la tente, par prudence. Si tu campes, choisis des coins suffisamment isolés pour éviter les rondes éventuelles de police.
Concernant les taxis, il est possible que le Qazvin -Ghazor Khan te charge l'aller-retour, car ca n'est pas facile pour lui de trouver des clients pour la course retour (du moins avant Mo'alem Kelayeh).
Suivrez vous la "Se Hezar road" de bout en bout aprés Maran? De même que pour Ghazor Khan , il n'est pas sûr qu'un autre savari gilaki te tende les bras coté Maran ( ou Yuj, je n'ai pas saisi ou démarre la liaison finale). Pour assurer cette récupération, soit vous vous armez de patience pour arrêter un taxi suffisament vide, soit vous fixez rendez-vous à un taxi pro au point de chute prévu, en supposant qu'il est carrossable. Cette dernière manip vous coutera un max. (Le cas échéant, mieux vaut une agence de taxi ou une agence de voyage à Qazvin ou à Tonekabon, plutot qu'une mauvaise nego au carrefour de la route d'Alamut/Qazvin).
J'ai déjà entendu parler de telles traversées organisées du massif, soit à pied, soit à moto, mais je ne connais pas les routes favorites ( via Kelardasht, Chalus, etc...). Soyez prudents aussi avec l'orientation. Je sais bien que le GPS rends tout possible, mais la vallée compte trés, trés peu de signalisation.
Concernant les taxis, il est possible que le Qazvin -Ghazor Khan te charge l'aller-retour, car ca n'est pas facile pour lui de trouver des clients pour la course retour (du moins avant Mo'alem Kelayeh).
Suivrez vous la "Se Hezar road" de bout en bout aprés Maran? De même que pour Ghazor Khan , il n'est pas sûr qu'un autre savari gilaki te tende les bras coté Maran ( ou Yuj, je n'ai pas saisi ou démarre la liaison finale). Pour assurer cette récupération, soit vous vous armez de patience pour arrêter un taxi suffisament vide, soit vous fixez rendez-vous à un taxi pro au point de chute prévu, en supposant qu'il est carrossable. Cette dernière manip vous coutera un max. (Le cas échéant, mieux vaut une agence de taxi ou une agence de voyage à Qazvin ou à Tonekabon, plutot qu'une mauvaise nego au carrefour de la route d'Alamut/Qazvin).
J'ai déjà entendu parler de telles traversées organisées du massif, soit à pied, soit à moto, mais je ne connais pas les routes favorites ( via Kelardasht, Chalus, etc...). Soyez prudents aussi avec l'orientation. Je sais bien que le GPS rends tout possible, mais la vallée compte trés, trés peu de signalisation.
PPP
Merci Tobi, nous apprécions beaucoup tes conseils. Nous avons contacté une agence à Teheran qui se met en relation avec un guide qui nous accompagnera et trouvera des hebergements chez l'habitant pour les 2 nuits de trek.
Pourriez-vous poster ici les détails fournis par l'agence (tarifs, étapes) ? Sur Google earth j'ai l'impression que la piste venant de yuj a pas mal progressé vers la vallée.
N'hésitez pas à faire un petit compte rendu à votre retour.
Yves
N'hésitez pas à faire un petit compte rendu à votre retour.
Yves
Pour info, vous prévoyez de faire la rando à quelle période ? Peut être y serions nous aussi ...
J'ai trouvé cette trace GPS avec le profil alti : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
J'ai trouvé cette trace GPS avec le profil alti : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
Bonjour
Merci à tous pour vos réponses et désolée pour ma réponse tardive.
Nous envisageons de faire le Trek en Aout et les agences Iraniennes contactées (Caspian Trek and Alamut trekking) nous proposent des prix à 1500 euros pour 2 jours de trek, c'est délirant !
Nous souhaitons avoir un guide car les sentiers ne sont pas indiquées et la question est de savoir s'il est facile de trouver sur place un muletier disposé à nous accompagner.
Hello,
J'avais bien compris que tu comptais t'y rendre en août, reste à savoir quand précisément, vu que ça sera également mon cas.
Oui les tarifs que tu as obtenus sont délirants.
Il semble qu'il existe maintenant un hébergement à Garmaroud (point de départ souvent utilisé) dont le proprio peut aider à trouver un muletier (qui ne parlera donc pas anglais) pour t'emmener au col ou jusqu'à Maran/Yuj.
J'avais bien compris que tu comptais t'y rendre en août, reste à savoir quand précisément, vu que ça sera également mon cas.
Oui les tarifs que tu as obtenus sont délirants.
Il semble qu'il existe maintenant un hébergement à Garmaroud (point de départ souvent utilisé) dont le proprio peut aider à trouver un muletier (qui ne parlera donc pas anglais) pour t'emmener au col ou jusqu'à Maran/Yuj.
Nous prévoyons de démarrer le trek vers le 16 ou 17 août
NB: Le prix indiqué dans mon message précédent est pour 5 personnes et inclut tous les repas et 2 nuitées
Bonjour,
Effectivement, nous avons contacté la même agence : 500 euros pour 3 jours de trek pour 2 personnes, c'est un prix délirant ! Nous pensons faire la même chose, en aout aussi, trouver un muletier sur place (prix annoncé sur LP 50dollars pour 3 jours). Des connaissances ont pu faire ce trek seuls, j'attends leur précisions. Ils voulaient passer la nuit à la belle étoile mais les locaux les ont toujours invités dormir chez eux.
Sinon, une trace GPS de ce sentier est disponible ici : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
Eloise
Effectivement, nous avons contacté la même agence : 500 euros pour 3 jours de trek pour 2 personnes, c'est un prix délirant ! Nous pensons faire la même chose, en aout aussi, trouver un muletier sur place (prix annoncé sur LP 50dollars pour 3 jours). Des connaissances ont pu faire ce trek seuls, j'attends leur précisions. Ils voulaient passer la nuit à la belle étoile mais les locaux les ont toujours invités dormir chez eux.
Sinon, une trace GPS de ce sentier est disponible ici : http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ppiuvqoylrgwektg&language=fr
Eloise
Bonjour,
Ayant grosso modo le même projet de randonnée que ceux qui ont été évoqués plus haut par Eloise123 et Clogrenoble (dans mon cas, il aurait lieu dans les derniers jours de mars), je voulais savoir si vous aviez finalement pu réaliser le trek que vous souhaitiez faire ? Si oui, avez-vous trouvé facilement sur place un guide / muletier, ou une agence susceptible d'organiser cela sans atteindre des coûts faramineux ? Auriez-vous des contacts ou autres informations à me communiquer ?
Merci d'avance !
Ayant grosso modo le même projet de randonnée que ceux qui ont été évoqués plus haut par Eloise123 et Clogrenoble (dans mon cas, il aurait lieu dans les derniers jours de mars), je voulais savoir si vous aviez finalement pu réaliser le trek que vous souhaitiez faire ? Si oui, avez-vous trouvé facilement sur place un guide / muletier, ou une agence susceptible d'organiser cela sans atteindre des coûts faramineux ? Auriez-vous des contacts ou autres informations à me communiquer ?
Merci d'avance !
bonjour
Nous avons réalisé le trek en négociant depuis la France avec Farin Malik qui a une agence dédiée à ce type d'activités; tu peux parcourir son site qui est excellent à l'adresse suivante
http://alamuttrek.com/
Trek magnifique, organisation et logistique sensationnelles.
Prix 1130 Euros pour 5 personnes . Ci_dessous, détail du tarif.
Start date : on the 17th of August from QAZVIN in the morning ( time >> and hotel name to be confirmed) This includes transfer by cars from >> Qazvin to Garmarood with a stop in Gazorkhan to visit Castle of >> Assassins, The services for the trekking include 1 mule, 1 local >> guide >> 2 nights lodging in a home stay for 5 people (1 night in Garmarood >> and >> 1 night in Piche Bon), food (1 cooked dinner in the home stay and the >> rest breakfast and snacks as lunch this means cheese , dates, bread, >> eggs, potatoes, tuna fish etc, tea or infusion made by the guide), >> The return journey for the guide and his mule. Plus lodging and food >> for the guide. >> The transfer by car from Yuj to Tonekabon or Ramsar. Bon voyage
Start date : on the 17th of August from QAZVIN in the morning ( time >> and hotel name to be confirmed) This includes transfer by cars from >> Qazvin to Garmarood with a stop in Gazorkhan to visit Castle of >> Assassins, The services for the trekking include 1 mule, 1 local >> guide >> 2 nights lodging in a home stay for 5 people (1 night in Garmarood >> and >> 1 night in Piche Bon), food (1 cooked dinner in the home stay and the >> rest breakfast and snacks as lunch this means cheese , dates, bread, >> eggs, potatoes, tuna fish etc, tea or infusion made by the guide), >> The return journey for the guide and his mule. Plus lodging and food >> for the guide. >> The transfer by car from Yuj to Tonekabon or Ramsar. Bon voyage
Bonjour,
Merci pour ces informations. Nous partons en Iran fin juillet. J'ai contacté ce guide également. Il nous propose un tarif de 860 euros pour 2 pour 4 jours de randonnée (5 nuits), avec repas, nuits et transfert vers Tonekabon. Votre guide ne parlait-il que le Farsi ? Pour un guide anglophone, on nous demande 600 euros de plus...
Merci beaucoup !
Merci pour ces informations. Nous partons en Iran fin juillet. J'ai contacté ce guide également. Il nous propose un tarif de 860 euros pour 2 pour 4 jours de randonnée (5 nuits), avec repas, nuits et transfert vers Tonekabon. Votre guide ne parlait-il que le Farsi ? Pour un guide anglophone, on nous demande 600 euros de plus...
Merci beaucoup !
Bonjour,
Une alternative à la route goudronnée entre Garmaroud et Pichebon est d'aller à Narmelat par le sentier qui traverse la rivière 5min après la sortie de Garmaroud. Là on se retrouve dans une vallée magnifique. La vue du col est splendide. Ensuite de Narmelat, possibilité d'aller à Dineh Roud. Puis retour par la route à Garmaroud.
Pierre
Une alternative à la route goudronnée entre Garmaroud et Pichebon est d'aller à Narmelat par le sentier qui traverse la rivière 5min après la sortie de Garmaroud. Là on se retrouve dans une vallée magnifique. La vue du col est splendide. Ensuite de Narmelat, possibilité d'aller à Dineh Roud. Puis retour par la route à Garmaroud.
Pierre
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Hi everyone!
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada





