Trois semaines en Afrique du Sud à quatre personnes
by Maxalex
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous souhaitons visiter l'afs en aout 2008 avec nos enfants 15 et 9 ans (3 semaines). Nous avons commencé à penser à notre itinéraire que voici :
Le cap - Hermanus - Oudtshoorn - Beaufort west - Bluemfortein - Harrismith - Hluhluwe - mbabane - krugger - Johannesbourg.
Nous avons plein d'interrogations, à savoir : Quelle compagnie aérienne pour l'afs avec arrivée et départ de villes différentes ( au meilleur prix) ? Plutôt camping car ou voiture ? Réserver ou non à l'avance certain hotels, parcs, ...?
Toutes vos sujetions de visites ou balades
Dans ce circuit, y a t'il des sites incontournables ou plutôt à éviter ...
Vos adresses hotels restos visites et + sont les bien venus.
max
Je reviens tout juste de 4 semaines en Afrique du Sud.
Ton itinéraire est assez classique, mais si tu restes sur cette idée, je te conseillerais de le faire dans l'autre sens car Cape Town est une ville agréable pour terminer son voyage et faire des achats...
Cependant, je pense que le trajet entre Ste-Lucia (pas loin de Hluhluwe) et Cape Town ne présente guère d'intérêts. Ce n'est pas forcément moche mais il me semblerait préférable de passer davantage de temps dans toute la partie Est (Pilanesberg, Blyde river Canyon, Kruger, Hluhluwe, Ste Lucia) et pourquoi pas de prendre l'avion pour Le Cap afin d'y terminer le voyage... Sinon vous allez beaucoup rouler, dans des régions pas toujours intéressantes, alors que c'est d'après moi dans les parcs et réserves qu'il faut passer le plus de temps.
On en reparle quand tu veux... Tu as un peu de temps pour réfléchir...
A+ Eric
Ton itinéraire est assez classique, mais si tu restes sur cette idée, je te conseillerais de le faire dans l'autre sens car Cape Town est une ville agréable pour terminer son voyage et faire des achats...
Cependant, je pense que le trajet entre Ste-Lucia (pas loin de Hluhluwe) et Cape Town ne présente guère d'intérêts. Ce n'est pas forcément moche mais il me semblerait préférable de passer davantage de temps dans toute la partie Est (Pilanesberg, Blyde river Canyon, Kruger, Hluhluwe, Ste Lucia) et pourquoi pas de prendre l'avion pour Le Cap afin d'y terminer le voyage... Sinon vous allez beaucoup rouler, dans des régions pas toujours intéressantes, alors que c'est d'après moi dans les parcs et réserves qu'il faut passer le plus de temps.
On en reparle quand tu veux... Tu as un peu de temps pour réfléchir...
A+ Eric
Disons qu'à Cape Town, le Waterfont est un lieu plutôt agréable pour trainer en toute sécurité. Il est composé de restaurants et de très nombreuses boutiques en tout genre (artisanat, souvenirs, grandes enseignes, etc) où il est plus facile qu'ailleurs de faire des achats juste avant de repartir à la maison. Je pense qu'on profite mieux de Cape Town quand on finit le voyage par là plutôt que de le débuter.
Passer par un tour operator me semble complètement inutile pour visiter l'Afrique du Sud. C'est comme si tu visitais un pays d'Europe ou d'Amérique du Nord. Si, pour te rassurer, tu souhaites réserver des hébergements à l'avance, internet est là et fonctionne très bien ! Personnellement j'ai loué une voiture et camper (avec ma propre tente) sauf à Cape Town. C'est bien évidemment la solution la plus économique. Si tu veux un hébergement en dur, le "backpacker's" est probablement préférable à l'hôtel, et on trouve de nombreux hébergements chez l'habitant. Les campings proposent aussi souvent des bungalows. Le camping car est aussi envisageable...
A+ Eric
Passer par un tour operator me semble complètement inutile pour visiter l'Afrique du Sud. C'est comme si tu visitais un pays d'Europe ou d'Amérique du Nord. Si, pour te rassurer, tu souhaites réserver des hébergements à l'avance, internet est là et fonctionne très bien ! Personnellement j'ai loué une voiture et camper (avec ma propre tente) sauf à Cape Town. C'est bien évidemment la solution la plus économique. Si tu veux un hébergement en dur, le "backpacker's" est probablement préférable à l'hôtel, et on trouve de nombreux hébergements chez l'habitant. Les campings proposent aussi souvent des bungalows. Le camping car est aussi envisageable...
A+ Eric
Salut, Eric !
Dis-moi : que revêt exactement le terme "backpacker's" ?
On l'utilise aussi très souvent ds les discussions sur la Namibie.
Est-ce des bungalows genre Etosha/ Okakuejo ou autre chose ?
@ + 😉
Michelle
Salut Michelle.
C'est plutôt quelque chose qui se situe entre l'auberge de jeunesse et le logement chez l'habitant. C'est très variable selon les endroits. Cela peut être une simple chambre avec sanitaires communs et cuisine commune, ou un logement indépendant avec tout le confort. Il peut y avoir des dortoirs, mais souvent des chambres doubles, voire des chambres familiales. Une des références est le guide gratuit "coast to coast" accessible sur internet http://www.coastingafrica.com/ . Des bungalows, on en trouve dans les parcs et réserves, et aussi dans beaucoup de campings privés. Je vois que ça se prépare ce voyage...😉
A+ Eric
C'est plutôt quelque chose qui se situe entre l'auberge de jeunesse et le logement chez l'habitant. C'est très variable selon les endroits. Cela peut être une simple chambre avec sanitaires communs et cuisine commune, ou un logement indépendant avec tout le confort. Il peut y avoir des dortoirs, mais souvent des chambres doubles, voire des chambres familiales. Une des références est le guide gratuit "coast to coast" accessible sur internet http://www.coastingafrica.com/ . Des bungalows, on en trouve dans les parcs et réserves, et aussi dans beaucoup de campings privés. Je vois que ça se prépare ce voyage...😉
A+ Eric
Merci, Eric !
Es-tu finalement allé --> Addo Park ?
Qu'as-tu fait comme circuit ?
En voiture De Johburg -->Port Elisabeth(c'est B là que se trouve Addo ?) puis vol de Port Elisabeth --> Cap Town ?
@ + .
Michelle
Je suis allé il y a quelques années de cela en AfSud au mois d'août en camping-car avec 3 enfants ayant à peu près le même âge.
Ce que je peux dire, c'est qu'en camping-car, les nuits sont souvent très froides (ce sera surtout le cas du côté du Karoo Beauffort-West et Bloemfontein mais pas seulement). C'est le seul inconvénient majeur que j'ai trouvé à cette formule.
L'autre différence importante entre le camping car et la voiture est la distance que l'on peut parcourir en une journée. Les routes étant quand même parfois un peu pentues par là-bas, il est très difficile de faire plus de 70 km/h avec un camping-car et donc environ 500 km au grand max par jour (car la conduite de nuit peut être délicate). Vu l'itinéraire que vous avez prévu, il faut se méfier de la longueur excessive de certaines étapes (alors que l'on peut "tracer" dans le Karoo sans problème avec une voiture et faire facilement 800 km dans la journée).
Côté camping, ils étaient vides dans toute la région du Cap (mais vraiment vides, je me suis trouvé souvent le seul véhicule dans les campings la nuit). En revanche, du côté de Kruger, là, c'était bondé et je pense qu'il est nécessaire de réserver. A noter qu'à Hluhluwe, le camping n'est pas possible à l'intérieur du parc, même en camping car. Là aussi, si on veut dormir à l'intérieur, il me semble préférable de réserver.
Pour l'avion, j'étais passé par Nouvelles Frontières en France qui m'avait réservé des vols par Lufthansa Frankfurt-Joburg et retour CapeTown - JoBurg mais je ne sais pas dire ce qui sera le moins cher (il y a un bon outil sur ce site pour trouver les tarifs les plus avantageux). En tout cas, bien entendu, il vaut mieux s'y prendre tôt pour les meilleurs tarifs.
Ce que je peux dire, c'est qu'en camping-car, les nuits sont souvent très froides (ce sera surtout le cas du côté du Karoo Beauffort-West et Bloemfontein mais pas seulement). C'est le seul inconvénient majeur que j'ai trouvé à cette formule.
L'autre différence importante entre le camping car et la voiture est la distance que l'on peut parcourir en une journée. Les routes étant quand même parfois un peu pentues par là-bas, il est très difficile de faire plus de 70 km/h avec un camping-car et donc environ 500 km au grand max par jour (car la conduite de nuit peut être délicate). Vu l'itinéraire que vous avez prévu, il faut se méfier de la longueur excessive de certaines étapes (alors que l'on peut "tracer" dans le Karoo sans problème avec une voiture et faire facilement 800 km dans la journée).
Côté camping, ils étaient vides dans toute la région du Cap (mais vraiment vides, je me suis trouvé souvent le seul véhicule dans les campings la nuit). En revanche, du côté de Kruger, là, c'était bondé et je pense qu'il est nécessaire de réserver. A noter qu'à Hluhluwe, le camping n'est pas possible à l'intérieur du parc, même en camping car. Là aussi, si on veut dormir à l'intérieur, il me semble préférable de réserver.
Pour l'avion, j'étais passé par Nouvelles Frontières en France qui m'avait réservé des vols par Lufthansa Frankfurt-Joburg et retour CapeTown - JoBurg mais je ne sais pas dire ce qui sera le moins cher (il y a un bon outil sur ce site pour trouver les tarifs les plus avantageux). En tout cas, bien entendu, il vaut mieux s'y prendre tôt pour les meilleurs tarifs.
Bonjour,
Je sais que je m'y prends à l'avance mais je sais aussi par expérience que c'est comme celà qu'on arrive aussi à avoir des prix de billets d'avion plus intéressants !! 😉 et donc j'ai vu sur ebookers des billets aux environs de 800 €/personne pour août 2008 vers Le Cap (retour par Johannesbourg) et puisque bbirdy, tu en viens, pourrais-tu me donner une idée du prix que tu as payé pour cette année ? Ce serait une bonne base de comparaison ! (j'ai comparé en prenant mon vol sur Bangkok de cet été : le tarif prévu sur cette destination pour 2008 n'est pas très loin de celui de 2007). Et puisque ton expérience est encore toute fraîche, j'aimerais également savoir (si ce n'est pas indiscret !) quel a été à peu près ton budget journalier par personne (ou pour 2) pour ces 4 semaines ? Je sais que l'on va me répondre que çà dépend du niveau de "luxe" du voyage mais en général on choisi des hôtels moyens (je mise plus sur l'emplacement que sur le confort), on voyage avec une voiture de location et si on peut faire des sandwichs le midi c'est parfait 😏 !!
Merci d'avance si bbirdy (qui est un voisin, je vois qu'il est de Nantes !) ou quelqu'un d'autre peut me répondre avant que je ne me lance dans cette belle organisation de voyage.
Je reviens tout juste de 4 semaines en Afrique du Sud.
Ton itinéraire est assez classique, mais si tu restes sur cette idée, je te conseillerais de le faire dans l'autre sens car Cape Town est une ville agréable pour terminer son voyage et faire des achats...
Cependant, je pense que le trajet entre Ste-Lucia (pas loin de Hluhluwe) et Cape Town ne présente guère d'intérêts. Ce n'est pas forcément moche mais il me semblerait préférable de passer davantage de temps dans toute la partie Est (Pilanesberg, Blyde river Canyon, Kruger, Hluhluwe, Ste Lucia) et pourquoi pas de prendre l'avion pour Le Cap afin d'y terminer le voyage... Sinon vous allez beaucoup rouler, dans des régions pas toujours intéressantes, alors que c'est d'après moi dans les parcs et réserves qu'il faut passer le plus de temps.
On en reparle quand tu veux... Tu as un peu de temps pour réfléchir...
A+ Eric
Je sais que je m'y prends à l'avance mais je sais aussi par expérience que c'est comme celà qu'on arrive aussi à avoir des prix de billets d'avion plus intéressants !! 😉 et donc j'ai vu sur ebookers des billets aux environs de 800 €/personne pour août 2008 vers Le Cap (retour par Johannesbourg) et puisque bbirdy, tu en viens, pourrais-tu me donner une idée du prix que tu as payé pour cette année ? Ce serait une bonne base de comparaison ! (j'ai comparé en prenant mon vol sur Bangkok de cet été : le tarif prévu sur cette destination pour 2008 n'est pas très loin de celui de 2007). Et puisque ton expérience est encore toute fraîche, j'aimerais également savoir (si ce n'est pas indiscret !) quel a été à peu près ton budget journalier par personne (ou pour 2) pour ces 4 semaines ? Je sais que l'on va me répondre que çà dépend du niveau de "luxe" du voyage mais en général on choisi des hôtels moyens (je mise plus sur l'emplacement que sur le confort), on voyage avec une voiture de location et si on peut faire des sandwichs le midi c'est parfait 😏 !!
Merci d'avance si bbirdy (qui est un voisin, je vois qu'il est de Nantes !) ou quelqu'un d'autre peut me répondre avant que je ne me lance dans cette belle organisation de voyage.
Je reviens tout juste de 4 semaines en Afrique du Sud.
Ton itinéraire est assez classique, mais si tu restes sur cette idée, je te conseillerais de le faire dans l'autre sens car Cape Town est une ville agréable pour terminer son voyage et faire des achats...
Cependant, je pense que le trajet entre Ste-Lucia (pas loin de Hluhluwe) et Cape Town ne présente guère d'intérêts. Ce n'est pas forcément moche mais il me semblerait préférable de passer davantage de temps dans toute la partie Est (Pilanesberg, Blyde river Canyon, Kruger, Hluhluwe, Ste Lucia) et pourquoi pas de prendre l'avion pour Le Cap afin d'y terminer le voyage... Sinon vous allez beaucoup rouler, dans des régions pas toujours intéressantes, alors que c'est d'après moi dans les parcs et réserves qu'il faut passer le plus de temps.
On en reparle quand tu veux... Tu as un peu de temps pour réfléchir...
A+ Eric
Salut la Carquefolienne !
En fait je suis de Basse-Goulaine...
Un vol à 800 € pour le mois d'août, ça me semble un bon prix. Moi j'ai payé aux environs de 900 €, par South African Airways, vol direct Paris-Johannesburg, retour Cape Town-Johannesburg-Paris. Par quelle compagnie as-tu ce prix ?
Concernant le budget... pas évident ! D'autant plus que moi je campais. Ce que je peux te dire, c'est que le cours de change actuellement nous est très très favorable. Dans un restau, tu manges plat+dessert+boisson pour 90 rands soient 9 € (facile comme taux de change !). Au Cap, on avait loué un T1 (très simple) pendant 3 jours pour 350 rands par jour (pour 2 adultes de 2 enfants). Aucun problème pour se faire des sandwichs le midi, il y a des supermarchés partout y compris dans des villages reculés. Pour le prix des hébergements dans les parcs nationaux et réserves, tu trouveras ça sur internet, avec tous les niveaux de confort possibles. http://www.sanparks.org/tourism/tariffs/ http://www.kznwildlife.com/tariffs.htm
Si tu as d'autres questions, n'hésite pas. A+
Eric
Un vol à 800 € pour le mois d'août, ça me semble un bon prix. Moi j'ai payé aux environs de 900 €, par South African Airways, vol direct Paris-Johannesburg, retour Cape Town-Johannesburg-Paris. Par quelle compagnie as-tu ce prix ?
Concernant le budget... pas évident ! D'autant plus que moi je campais. Ce que je peux te dire, c'est que le cours de change actuellement nous est très très favorable. Dans un restau, tu manges plat+dessert+boisson pour 90 rands soient 9 € (facile comme taux de change !). Au Cap, on avait loué un T1 (très simple) pendant 3 jours pour 350 rands par jour (pour 2 adultes de 2 enfants). Aucun problème pour se faire des sandwichs le midi, il y a des supermarchés partout y compris dans des villages reculés. Pour le prix des hébergements dans les parcs nationaux et réserves, tu trouveras ça sur internet, avec tous les niveaux de confort possibles. http://www.sanparks.org/tourism/tariffs/ http://www.kznwildlife.com/tariffs.htm
Si tu as d'autres questions, n'hésite pas. A+
Eric
Bonjour et merci voisin (bien que du Sud-Loire, çà change tout !!! 😏 😉). Le vol est avec la Lufthansa avec escale, si je pouvais trouver un direct c'est vrai que ce serait mieux. Tu penses que c'est mieux d'arriver à Johannesbourg et de finir à Cape Town plutôt que le contraire ? Sinon pour les prix çà à l'air de rentrer dans notre budget ! Je vais donc "potasser" le LP que je viens d'acheter et j'aurais sûrement d'autres questions quand j'aurais prévu un itinéraire qui sera sans doute bien classique pour un premier voyage dans ce pays !
A bientôt donc...
Je crois que South African Airways arrête ses vols directs depuis Paris cet automne (obligation de passer par Londres ou Francfort). Donc pour un vol direct, à part Air France... Lufthansa est une très bonne compagnie, avec laquelle j'avais déjà fait un voyage en Afrique du Sud.
Je pense qu'il est préférable d'arriver à Johannesburg et de repartir du Cap. Cape Town est une ville sympa pour faire des achats par exemple.
Concernant ton futur itinéraire, je te conseille de passer un maximum de temps dans les parcs et réserves, car c'est vraiment un bonheur d'aller à la rencontre des animaux sauvages. Sache qu'il est aussi possible de prendre des vols intérieurs pas forcément honéreux (voir la compagnie www.kukula.com) et ça fait vraiment gagner du temps.
A bientôt.
A bientôt.
Encore une question ! (et après promis j'arrête avant d'avoir fait mes propres recherches 😛) tu as dis que tu campais : j'ai donc une question sûrement idiote : tu n'avais pas emmené ta tente ? Je ne le pense pas !! les campings sont donc équipées de tentes avec tout ce qu'il faut ? comment çà se passe et combien çà coûtait pour ue nuit environ ?
Bien sûr que j'ai emporté ma tente, comme aux Etats-Unis, au Canada, en Namibie ou en Australie... Tente, duvets, matelas, etc, pas de soucis ! Il fallait compter 15 € en moyenne pour 2 adultes et 2 enfants.
Pas vraiment de tente à louer dans les campings, ou alors des tentes-safari avec tout le confort, mais ce n'est plus du camping et pas les même prix non plus.
Pour un hébergement en dur, tu peux trouver des bungalows, rondavels, chalets, cottages. Les noms varient et les prix aussi selon le lieu et le confort...
Tu ne m'embêtes pas. Je suis prêt à t'aider, même si tu vis dans une maison en ardoises !!!
Tu ne m'embêtes pas. Je suis prêt à t'aider, même si tu vis dans une maison en ardoises !!!
Merci, "l'homme à la couverture en tuiles" est vraiment sympa d'aider la pauvre "femme sous ardoises" !! 😏 c'est vrai que je ne me vois pas trop embarquer avec la tente et tout le matos !!! Je vais donc opter pour les hébergements en bois (j'ai déjà testé au Mexique et en Thailande cet été...) çà va être plus simple 😛
Question à part : je vois que tu es allé aux E. Unis (nous aussi mais que dans l'Ouest), es-tu allé au Parc du Yellowstone par hasard ? Je sais que çà n'est pas la même chose que l'Afrique du Sud mais on hésitait entre les deux. Si tu y es allé, çà m'intéresse d'avoir ton avis entre les deux voyages...
bonjour
nous préparons un voyage de 3 semaines pour aout 2008 (mon épouse et mes 3 enfants, 9, 13 et 15 ans). existe il des hébergements familiaux dans les parcs ? l'itinéraire sera axé sur les parcs et je cherche des infos sur les camps à réserver. par contre est il intéressant de réserver du temps pour la côte est ? la température de l'eau permet elle des baignades à cette saison ?
merci de me donner des conseils sur l'organisation : type de voiture à 5 pour ne pas être génés dans les parcs hébergement et surtout cout approximatif de la nourriture (restaurant ou pas)merci de votre aide !
nous préparons un voyage de 3 semaines pour aout 2008 (mon épouse et mes 3 enfants, 9, 13 et 15 ans). existe il des hébergements familiaux dans les parcs ? l'itinéraire sera axé sur les parcs et je cherche des infos sur les camps à réserver. par contre est il intéressant de réserver du temps pour la côte est ? la température de l'eau permet elle des baignades à cette saison ?
merci de me donner des conseils sur l'organisation : type de voiture à 5 pour ne pas être génés dans les parcs hébergement et surtout cout approximatif de la nourriture (restaurant ou pas)merci de votre aide !
Bonne idée d'axer son voyage en Afrique du Sud principalement sur les parcs.
En cherchant sur internet, tu trouveras toutes les informations sur les hébergements dans les parcs. Les éventuelles réservations s'y font très facilement.
Concernant les parcs nationaux, le site internet est www.sanparks.org . Tu auras tous les tarifs sur www.sanparks.org/tourism/tariffs/default.php . Et concernant plus particulièrement Kruger, le tarif des hébergements dans les différents campements est sur www.sanparks.org/parks/kruger/tourism/tariffs_all.php .
Les magnifiques parcs du Kwazulu-Natal ne sont pas des parcs nationaux. Tu trouveras cependant toutes les informations nécessaire sur www.kznwildlife.com et les tarifs sur www.kznwildlife.com/export/sites/kzn/ecotourism/prices_booking/index.html .
J'ai très peu fait la côte Est durant mon voyage en juillet-août de cette année. J'ai mis les pieds dans l'eau à Sodwana Bay et franchement elle était très fraiche, en plus d'être très agitée. Je te conseille cependant un petit tour vers Ste Lucia, pas très loin de Hluhluwe-Umfolozi, un parc à ne pas rater.
Pour 5, je te conseille une voiture du type Opel Zafira, Volkswagen Touran, Mazda 5, Toyota Corolla Verso (ou plus grand si ton budget te le permet).
Concernant les coûts sur place, il faut savoir qu'actuellement le rand vaut 0, 10 euro. La conversion est donc facile. Ce taux de change nous est très très favorable. Les prix sont donc aujourd'hui bien plus bas qu'en France. L'essence coûte en moyenne 7 rands. Au restau, tu as un plat (copieux) + 1 dessert + 1 boisson pour 70 à 80 rands.
J'espère que ces premières infos t'aideront. N'hésite pas si tu as d'autres questions... A+
Concernant les parcs nationaux, le site internet est www.sanparks.org . Tu auras tous les tarifs sur www.sanparks.org/tourism/tariffs/default.php . Et concernant plus particulièrement Kruger, le tarif des hébergements dans les différents campements est sur www.sanparks.org/parks/kruger/tourism/tariffs_all.php .
Les magnifiques parcs du Kwazulu-Natal ne sont pas des parcs nationaux. Tu trouveras cependant toutes les informations nécessaire sur www.kznwildlife.com et les tarifs sur www.kznwildlife.com/export/sites/kzn/ecotourism/prices_booking/index.html .
J'ai très peu fait la côte Est durant mon voyage en juillet-août de cette année. J'ai mis les pieds dans l'eau à Sodwana Bay et franchement elle était très fraiche, en plus d'être très agitée. Je te conseille cependant un petit tour vers Ste Lucia, pas très loin de Hluhluwe-Umfolozi, un parc à ne pas rater.
Pour 5, je te conseille une voiture du type Opel Zafira, Volkswagen Touran, Mazda 5, Toyota Corolla Verso (ou plus grand si ton budget te le permet).
Concernant les coûts sur place, il faut savoir qu'actuellement le rand vaut 0, 10 euro. La conversion est donc facile. Ce taux de change nous est très très favorable. Les prix sont donc aujourd'hui bien plus bas qu'en France. L'essence coûte en moyenne 7 rands. Au restau, tu as un plat (copieux) + 1 dessert + 1 boisson pour 70 à 80 rands.
J'espère que ces premières infos t'aideront. N'hésite pas si tu as d'autres questions... A+
Bonjour
Concernant le billet d'avion j'ai payé 824€ avec British airways pour un Nice-Londres-J'burg, retour par le Cap.
Ton prix a donc l'air interessant.
Pour les hébergements dans les parcs (kruger + hluhluwe) il faut vraiment réserver, c'était archi complet (je rentre d'un voyage de 3 semaines du 11/09 au 3/10).
J'étais en camping partout et effectivement il fait froid la nuit !!
Si d'autres questions, n'hésites pas, c'est tout frais..
Cordialement Marieke
Concernant le billet d'avion j'ai payé 824€ avec British airways pour un Nice-Londres-J'burg, retour par le Cap.
Ton prix a donc l'air interessant.
Pour les hébergements dans les parcs (kruger + hluhluwe) il faut vraiment réserver, c'était archi complet (je rentre d'un voyage de 3 semaines du 11/09 au 3/10).
J'étais en camping partout et effectivement il fait froid la nuit !!
Si d'autres questions, n'hésites pas, c'est tout frais..
Cordialement Marieke
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« Voyager est un triple plaisir : l’attente, l’éblouissement et le souvenir. » Ilka Chase
« Voyager est un triple plaisir : l’attente, l’éblouissement et le souvenir. » Ilka Chase
Bonjour,
Tout d'abord sur ton trajet, moi je passerai par le lesotho plutot que bloemfontein -harrismith. Pour les réservations, c'est la période de pointe des touristes européens donc essentiel pour le kruger et mieux pour les autres étapes. Nous on a organisé notre séjour sur mesure avec capsud-afrique.com pour un circuit original et vraiment sympa, on s'est régalé. Ils font des formules camping car je crois. Dans ton circuit le cap hermanus et kruger sont incontournables le drakensberg aussi si tu aimes la montagne.
Bon Voyage !
Tout d'abord sur ton trajet, moi je passerai par le lesotho plutot que bloemfontein -harrismith. Pour les réservations, c'est la période de pointe des touristes européens donc essentiel pour le kruger et mieux pour les autres étapes. Nous on a organisé notre séjour sur mesure avec capsud-afrique.com pour un circuit original et vraiment sympa, on s'est régalé. Ils font des formules camping car je crois. Dans ton circuit le cap hermanus et kruger sont incontournables le drakensberg aussi si tu aimes la montagne.
Bon Voyage !
Pour le vol, South african etait tres bien place surtout si l'on ne souhaite pas repartir du meme endroit.
Il est possible de faire une simulation tarifaire sur leur site internet.
Je pense qu'il est preferable de reserver pour le parc Kruger surtout si l'on tient a certains sites (www.sanparks.org)?
Eviter"Edeni game reserve"
Site a consulter: www.kznwildlife.com (il y ades sites superbes...reservation par internet)
Je pense qu'il est preferable de reserver pour le parc Kruger surtout si l'on tient a certains sites (www.sanparks.org)?
Eviter"Edeni game reserve"
Site a consulter: www.kznwildlife.com (il y ades sites superbes...reservation par internet)
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Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
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Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!





