Trois semaines en Afrique du Sud questions simples
by Quiestu
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Original post
Bonjour,
Je suis censée partir 3 semaines en Afrique du Sud au mois d'août 😎(première question, celle de la météo? Est-il possible de voir tout ce qu'on peut voir en été là-bas (certaines choses sont-elles fermées) ?).
Nos points de chute : Johannesburg, Le Cap. Les villes prennent-elles du temps à être visiter ? Qu'y a-t-il à voir aux environs ? Quel est le meilleur moyen pour relier les deux (villes où s’arrêter pendant le trajet ?) ?
Enfin, dernière question, au niveau de la sécurité est-ce correcte avec deux mineures (dont une de 10 ans) ?
Merci beaucoup😉
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Bonjour,
En Afrique Australe, ce sera l'hiver, tout sera ouvert. Température diurnes-> Johannesburg: 17/19°, Cape Town: 16/18° Johannesburg présente peu d'intérêt d'un point de vue touristique. La plupart des visiteurs n'y vont pas. Cape Town est plus facile et, avec les environs, il faut lui consacrer quelques jours. Le mode de ralliement de ces deux villes dépend de ce que vous voulez faire pendant vos trois semaines. C'est possible en train, voiture et avion. Pour la sécurité, pas de problèmes dans les lieux touristiques.
En Afrique Australe, ce sera l'hiver, tout sera ouvert. Température diurnes-> Johannesburg: 17/19°, Cape Town: 16/18° Johannesburg présente peu d'intérêt d'un point de vue touristique. La plupart des visiteurs n'y vont pas. Cape Town est plus facile et, avec les environs, il faut lui consacrer quelques jours. Le mode de ralliement de ces deux villes dépend de ce que vous voulez faire pendant vos trois semaines. C'est possible en train, voiture et avion. Pour la sécurité, pas de problèmes dans les lieux touristiques.
Merci Voyagou pour la réponse hyper rapide 😉
Tu ne vois pas quelques endroits à visiter absolument à Johannesburg et Cape Town ? Pourrais-tu être plus précis sur ce qu'il y a à visiter autour de ces deux villes (dont 3 jours au parc Kruger et voir le parc national de Zwartbosch ?).
Nous voulons nous arrêter donc entre ces deux villes, est-il facile de se déplacer en train ou en car sans faire un direct Johannesburg-Cape Town (et sécurité au milieu du pays ?) ?
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Si tu saisis ici "trois semaines en Afrique du sud" tu auras accès à 1038 discussions!🙂
Et si ce voyage se précise, acheter un guide papier est une nécessité.
En fonction de votre profil il vous aidera à faire votre choix.
Swartbosch NR est quand même proche du Cap et ne justifie pas de rallier les deux capitales par la route. Pourquoi cette réserve (que je ne connais même pas)?
Swartbosch NR est quand même proche du Cap et ne justifie pas de rallier les deux capitales par la route. Pourquoi cette réserve (que je ne connais même pas)?
Ah! Tu m'intéresses!
Vous ne voulez pas longer la côte entre les deux capitales?
Etes-vous disposés à louer une voiture pour la durée du séjour?
Non on ne longe pas la côte, on passe par l'intérieur et avec une voiture de loc'. C'est pour ça que si tu avais des points de chutes, des villes où s'arrêter sur la route ça serait pas mal 😉
J'ai toujours le problème de la sécurité ! Quand je traîne sur les forums je vois "cet endroit est un coupe gorge", "ne pas y aller sans guide et sans bombe lacrymogène", "ils traquent les voitures de location" Je dois te dire que ça me fait pas mal flipper 🤪
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Entre la visite de Cape Town et ses environs d'une part et le Kruger d'autre part, combien de temps souhaitez-vous consacrer à rallier les deux capitales?
Une première étape pourrait être le Karoo NP (après être passés par le Klein Karoo pour les paysages).
Pour les questions de sécurité, tu ne dois pas consulter les bons forum!😛 On ne lit pas trop ça ici. Sauf si vous louez un Hummer, votre voiture de location lambda n'intéressera personne.
Pour les questions de sécurité, tu ne dois pas consulter les bons forum!😛 On ne lit pas trop ça ici. Sauf si vous louez un Hummer, votre voiture de location lambda n'intéressera personne.
On part en voitures de loc' les deuxièmes moins chères donc je pense pas avoir trop trop de problème mais merci de me rassurer quand même !
On a commencé à faire le "planning" et on passe déjà 11 jours à Johannesburg et ses alentours (je veux bien te le détailler si tu es OK pour nous aider) et on est censé rester 20 jours en comptant le retour sur Johannesbourg (avantage c'est qu'on peut s'arrêter dans plus de villes du coup).
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Oui, détaille, ce sera plus facile.🙂
Je me suis trompée ça fait pas 11 jours j'ai confondu avec les jours du mois 😄Jour 1 : Arrivée dans l'après-midi donc dodo à Jo'burg
Jour 2 : Visite de la ville
Jour 3 : Visite de la ville (1 jour suffit ?)
Jour 4 : Soweto (apparemment ça prend pas la journée)
Jour 5 : Départ pour Kruger
Jour 6 : Visite du parc
Jour 7 : Visite du parc
Jour 8 : Départ pour Blyde River Canyon et dodo à Graskop
Voilà où on en est ! La question qu'on se pose tous c'est comment on visite Blyde River Canyon et combien de temps ça dure ?
Voilà où on en est ! La question qu'on se pose tous c'est comment on visite Blyde River Canyon et combien de temps ça dure ?
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Tu me dis être limitée en messages publics en tant que nouvelle inscrite. Je reproduis donc ici ton mp de façon à obtenir d'autres conseils:
Ok le parcours se précise : Jour 7 : Blyde River Canyon Jour 8 : Retour sur Jo'burg et nuit Jour 9 : Départ pour Kimberley et nuit Jour 10 : Départ pour Beaufort West et nuit Jour 11 : Départ pour Cape Town et nuit Jour 12 : Visite de Table Moutain, Signal Hill et l'aprem Duiker's Island Jour 13 : Péninsule du Cap, départ pour Hermanus Jour 14 : Hermanus (sans doutes les baleines et les requins) Jour 15 : Idem Jour 16 : Départ pour Plettenberg Bay et nuit Jour 17 : Départ pour East london et nuit Jour 18 : Départ pour Bloemfontein et nuit Jour 19 : Retour sur Jo'burg
Est-ce que c'est faisable ? Les grosses questions qu'on se pose sont : -Pour le parc Kruger faut-il réserver à l'avance pour dormir ? -Pour Blyde River Canyon, 1 journée voir une journée et une aprem' est-ce suffisant ? Facile de trouver un hôtel à Graskop ? -Déplacements faciles (apparemment oui) ? -Sur notre chemin et les villes où nous nous arrêtons, y-a-t-il des plus petites villes mais belles aussi à voir, ou faut-il mieux rester dans les grandes villes ? -2 jours sur Hermanus suffisant ?
Voilà ça fait pas mal de question 😄 et la question récurrente : sécurité ?
Merci encore
Ok le parcours se précise : Jour 7 : Blyde River Canyon Jour 8 : Retour sur Jo'burg et nuit Jour 9 : Départ pour Kimberley et nuit Jour 10 : Départ pour Beaufort West et nuit Jour 11 : Départ pour Cape Town et nuit Jour 12 : Visite de Table Moutain, Signal Hill et l'aprem Duiker's Island Jour 13 : Péninsule du Cap, départ pour Hermanus Jour 14 : Hermanus (sans doutes les baleines et les requins) Jour 15 : Idem Jour 16 : Départ pour Plettenberg Bay et nuit Jour 17 : Départ pour East london et nuit Jour 18 : Départ pour Bloemfontein et nuit Jour 19 : Retour sur Jo'burg
Est-ce que c'est faisable ? Les grosses questions qu'on se pose sont : -Pour le parc Kruger faut-il réserver à l'avance pour dormir ? -Pour Blyde River Canyon, 1 journée voir une journée et une aprem' est-ce suffisant ? Facile de trouver un hôtel à Graskop ? -Déplacements faciles (apparemment oui) ? -Sur notre chemin et les villes où nous nous arrêtons, y-a-t-il des plus petites villes mais belles aussi à voir, ou faut-il mieux rester dans les grandes villes ? -2 jours sur Hermanus suffisant ?
Voilà ça fait pas mal de question 😄 et la question récurrente : sécurité ?
Merci encore
Une observation générale: cela fait trop de route en 19 jours de faire Jo'burg-Cape Town à deux reprises. Etes-vous nombreux? Une solution consiste à prendre un vol intérieur Cape Town/Jo'burg à la fin du séjour, une autre à prendre un vol Paris/Jo'burg à l'aller et un Cape Town/Paris au retour.
De ta réponse à cette question dépendra le circuit.
-Pour le parc Kruger faut-il réserver à l'avance pour dormir ? Oui et certains camps sont déjà complets. Camperez-vous ou bien avez-vous besoin d'un hébergement en dur chaque soir?
-Pour Blyde River Canyon, 1 journée voir une journée et une aprem' est-ce suffisant ? Facile de trouver un hôtel à Graskop ? Oui, sauf à vouloir randonner sérieusement.
-Déplacements faciles (apparemment oui) ? Oui, très.
-Sur notre chemin et les villes où nous nous arrêtons, y-a-t-il des plus petites villes mais belles aussi à voir, ou faut-il mieux rester dans les grandes villes ? Suivant le trajet, il y aura des petites villes agréables.
-2 jours sur Hermanus suffisant ? Oui, même si les baleines ne sont pas télécommandées.😎
et la question récurrente : sécurité ? N'en parlons plus.
-Pour le parc Kruger faut-il réserver à l'avance pour dormir ? Oui et certains camps sont déjà complets. Camperez-vous ou bien avez-vous besoin d'un hébergement en dur chaque soir?
-Pour Blyde River Canyon, 1 journée voir une journée et une aprem' est-ce suffisant ? Facile de trouver un hôtel à Graskop ? Oui, sauf à vouloir randonner sérieusement.
-Déplacements faciles (apparemment oui) ? Oui, très.
-Sur notre chemin et les villes où nous nous arrêtons, y-a-t-il des plus petites villes mais belles aussi à voir, ou faut-il mieux rester dans les grandes villes ? Suivant le trajet, il y aura des petites villes agréables.
-2 jours sur Hermanus suffisant ? Oui, même si les baleines ne sont pas télécommandées.😎
et la question récurrente : sécurité ? N'en parlons plus.
Cela fait trop de route en 19 jours
C'est ce que nous pensons aussi 😐
Etes-vous nombreux? 7
Une solution consiste à prendre un vol intérieur Cape Town/Jo'burg à la fin du séjour, une autre à prendre un vol Paris/Jo'burg à l'aller et un Cape Town/Paris au retour. Impossible de faire Paris/Afrique du Sud ni un vol intérieur.
Camperez-vous ou bien avez-vous besoin d'un hébergement en dur chaque soir? Pas de camping.
Voilà 😉
Etes-vous nombreux? 7
Une solution consiste à prendre un vol intérieur Cape Town/Jo'burg à la fin du séjour, une autre à prendre un vol Paris/Jo'burg à l'aller et un Cape Town/Paris au retour. Impossible de faire Paris/Afrique du Sud ni un vol intérieur.
Camperez-vous ou bien avez-vous besoin d'un hébergement en dur chaque soir? Pas de camping.
Voilà 😉
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Quand tu dis "Impossible de faire Paris/Afrique du Sud", moi je te demande, Quiestu, Oùvastu?😎
Cela signifie que le vol est automatiquement Paris/Jo'burg/Paris?
Pas de vol intérieur, c'est pour une question de budget?
Cela signifie que le vol est automatiquement Paris/Jo'burg/Paris?
Pas de vol intérieur, c'est pour une question de budget?
A ce stade: voulez-vous absolument aller et au Kruger et à Cape Town, le prix à payer étant environ 15 heures de route pure pour le retour?
Vous aurez deux voitures? Plusieurs chauffeurs par voiture?
Puisque vous avez les billets: quelles sont les heures d'arrivée et de départ à JNB (aéroport de Jo'burg)?
Vous aurez deux voitures? Plusieurs chauffeurs par voiture?
Puisque vous avez les billets: quelles sont les heures d'arrivée et de départ à JNB (aéroport de Jo'burg)?
Oui on veut faire Nord-Sud, tant-pis si il y a autant de route (on a l'habitude de faire 14 voir 16 heures d'affiler pour arriver jusqu'en toscane 😄) 2 voitures et 2 chauffeurs par voiture, mais c'est souvent les deux hommes qui conduisent tout le long.
Il faudra que je demande les heures des vols mais les deux journées sont banalisées pour du "repos" face au long trajet en avion qui nous attendra.
Cependant, il y a (encore) du nouveau (et oui faut mettre tout le monde d'accord) on voudrait prendre un hôtel à Hermanus et faire les aller-retour Cap Town dans la journée pour visiter la ville sans avoir à changer d'hôtel (c'est ce que les adultes préfèrent).
Ensuite, pendant le trajet Jo'burg-Hermanus on aimerait passer 2 nuits à Kimberley donc une journée entière pour visiter, j'aimerai savoir ce qu'il y a à visiter (à part Big Hole). Ensuite direction Beaufort West (faut-il visiter cette ville ou Kimberley ?).
Pour le retour on partirai pour un long voyage jusqu'à Bloemfontein et on y passe deux nuits et un jour OU on va de Hermanus à Graaf-Reinet on y passe deux nuits et on repart sur Johannesburg.
Même question que pour Beaufort West et Kimberley, quelle ville vaut plus le coup, Graaf-Reinet ou Bloemfontein ?
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Cependant, il y a (encore) du nouveau
Ah Pauline😉, ton titre disait questions simples, mais c’est tout un voyage qui est à construire.
on voudrait prendre un hôtel à Hermanus et faire les aller-retour Cap Town dans la journée pour visiter la ville sans avoir à changer d'hôtel
Pourquoi pas, en effet, retenir Hermanus comme base pour la région?
Beaufort West (faut-il visiter cette ville ou Kimberley ?).
Kimberley. Beaufort West ne présente pas d'intérêt, si vous deviez faire étape à proximité, ce serait au Karoo NP.
Kimberley donc une journée entière pour visiter, j'aimerai savoir ce qu'il y a à visiter (à part Big Hole).
Le township (accompagné) pour évacuer la peur.🙂
Bloemfontein et on y passe deux nuits et un jour OU on va de Hermanus à Graaf-Reinet on y passe deux nuits
Bloem est une grande ville peu agréable, alors que la route par Graaf Reinet et les petites villes de l'outback, comme on dit en Australie, vous donneront une autre vision du pays.
As-tu regardé les disponibilités au Kruger, à vos dates?
Ah Pauline😉, ton titre disait questions simples, mais c’est tout un voyage qui est à construire.
on voudrait prendre un hôtel à Hermanus et faire les aller-retour Cap Town dans la journée pour visiter la ville sans avoir à changer d'hôtel
Pourquoi pas, en effet, retenir Hermanus comme base pour la région?
Beaufort West (faut-il visiter cette ville ou Kimberley ?).
Kimberley. Beaufort West ne présente pas d'intérêt, si vous deviez faire étape à proximité, ce serait au Karoo NP.
Kimberley donc une journée entière pour visiter, j'aimerai savoir ce qu'il y a à visiter (à part Big Hole).
Le township (accompagné) pour évacuer la peur.🙂
Bloemfontein et on y passe deux nuits et un jour OU on va de Hermanus à Graaf-Reinet on y passe deux nuits
Bloem est une grande ville peu agréable, alors que la route par Graaf Reinet et les petites villes de l'outback, comme on dit en Australie, vous donneront une autre vision du pays.
As-tu regardé les disponibilités au Kruger, à vos dates?
Oui Apolline, fille d'Apollon (?) j'avais bien compris😠. Je surfais sur la blague.😛
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Ok pour la blague 😄 Et merci pour l'extrait !
Mais dis-moi je crois qu'on a encore changé d'avis 😊 On aimerait aller à... Port Elizabeth au lieu de Graff tout le monde veut absolument passer par la côte et voir une autre ville côtière (ce qui ne me déplaît pas) mais encore une fois ils veulent absolument que je pose la question sur la sécurité, ils ont pas envie de se retrouver dans une ville minable avec leur famille, donc sérieusement cette ville est-elle "visitable" ou est-elle du genre Durban ?
Apolline, future globetrotteuse
Faire et défaire, c'est toujours travailler.😉
PE est une grande ville industrielle en souffrance. On peut faire des balades intéressantes dans certains coins du centre, en retrait du front de mer et... aller à la plage. Il y a aussi un bel océanarium.
Si la sécurité est un critère décisif de choix, et bien qu'il ne vous arrivera sans doute rien, vous risquez de ne pas vous y sentir bien.
Addo Elephant NP est tout près (si le Kruger vous échappe c'est là qu'il faudra passer).
PE est une grande ville industrielle en souffrance. On peut faire des balades intéressantes dans certains coins du centre, en retrait du front de mer et... aller à la plage. Il y a aussi un bel océanarium.
Si la sécurité est un critère décisif de choix, et bien qu'il ne vous arrivera sans doute rien, vous risquez de ne pas vous y sentir bien.
Addo Elephant NP est tout près (si le Kruger vous échappe c'est là qu'il faudra passer).
Ok pour la blague 😄 Et merci pour l'extrait !
Mais dis-moi je crois qu'on a encore changé d'avis 😊 On aimerait aller à... Port Elizabeth au lieu de Graff tout le monde veut absolument passer par la côte et voir une autre ville côtière (ce qui ne me déplaît pas) mais encore une fois ils veulent absolument que je pose la question sur la sécurité, ils ont pas envie de se retrouver dans une ville minable avec leur famille, donc sérieusement cette ville est-elle "visitable" ou est-elle du genre Durban ?
PE n'a rien de très folichon.. Remonter plus vers la cote et essayer plutot East london, c'est plus petit..et il y a quelques criques sympa.. Vers Gonubie en bord de mer il y a une super "creperie" si si !!!! 🙂 c'est là ou il faut etre en tout cas les sudaf y sont...😉
PE n'a rien de très folichon.. Remonter plus vers la cote et essayer plutot East london, c'est plus petit..et il y a quelques criques sympa.. Vers Gonubie en bord de mer il y a une super "creperie" si si !!!! 🙂 c'est là ou il faut etre en tout cas les sudaf y sont...😉
Merci à vous pour les infos 😉
On n'ira pas à East London parce que ça fait pas mal d'heures de routes !
😠 ....😉
Bon.... alors par les terres Graaff-reinett et Aberdeen, avant de passer par Price Albert (jolie bourgade) et de traverser par les gorges de ...🤪🤪 Swartberg pass pour rejoindre Oudtshoorn et la Rte 62 en direction de Cape Town..ou de piquer plein sud vers Cape de L'Agulhas...😛
En remontant par la cote arret a Hermanus (ville cotière) sécurité au top.... il n'y a que des touristes... à se demander si les autochtones y vivent encore 😠 😠 Boulder bay pour les Manchots du Cap- avec les gosses... ambiance et souvenir assurés... ils peuvent même se baigner avec les manchots dans les criques du NP...
😠 ....😉
Bon.... alors par les terres Graaff-reinett et Aberdeen, avant de passer par Price Albert (jolie bourgade) et de traverser par les gorges de ...🤪🤪 Swartberg pass pour rejoindre Oudtshoorn et la Rte 62 en direction de Cape Town..ou de piquer plein sud vers Cape de L'Agulhas...😛
En remontant par la cote arret a Hermanus (ville cotière) sécurité au top.... il n'y a que des touristes... à se demander si les autochtones y vivent encore 😠 😠 Boulder bay pour les Manchots du Cap- avec les gosses... ambiance et souvenir assurés... ils peuvent même se baigner avec les manchots dans les criques du NP...
Jour 1 : Arrivée dans l'après-midi donc dodo à Jo'burg
Jour 2 : Visite de la ville
Jour 3 : Visite de la ville (1 jour suffit ?)
Jour 4 : Soweto (apparemment ça prend pas la journée)
Jour 5 : Départ pour Kruger
Jour 6 : Visite du parc
Jour 7 : Visite du parc
Jour 8 : Départ pour Blyde River Canyon et dodo à Graskop Jour 9 : Départ pour Kimberley et nuit
Jour 10 : Départ pour Beaufort West et nuit
Jour 11 : Départ pour Cape Town et nuit
Jour 12 : Visite de Table Moutain, Signal Hill et l'aprem Duiker's Island
Jour 13 : Péninsule du Cap, départ pour Hermanus
Jour 14 : Hermanus (sans doutes les baleines et les requins)
Jour 15 : Idem
Jour 16 : Départ pour Plettenberg Bay et nuit
Jour 17 : Départ pour East london et nuit
Jour 18 : Départ pour Bloemfontein et nuit
Jour 19 : Retour sur Jo'burg
Jouons un peu à Chamboule-Tout...
Jour 1 : Arrivée dans l'après-midi donc dodo à Jo'burg Jour 2 : Visite de la ville + Soweto Jour 3, 4 : Drakensberg Nord Jour 5 : Bloemfontein Jour 6, 7 : Mountain Zebra NP Jour 8, 9 : Addo Elephant NP Jour 10 : Plettenberg Bay Jour 11,12 : Hermanus Jour 13,14,15 : Le Cap Jour 16,17 : Karoo NP Jour 18 : Kimberley Jour 19 retour sur JNB
Faire les 4 coins du pays en 19 jours et en voiture (solution Kruger+Le Cap) me semble vraiment 🤪...
L'autre solution aurait été de remplacer le Kruger par le Kgalagadi NP plus dans l'axe mais il ne doit plus y avoir de place depuis longtemps.😕
Jouons un peu à Chamboule-Tout...
Jour 1 : Arrivée dans l'après-midi donc dodo à Jo'burg Jour 2 : Visite de la ville + Soweto Jour 3, 4 : Drakensberg Nord Jour 5 : Bloemfontein Jour 6, 7 : Mountain Zebra NP Jour 8, 9 : Addo Elephant NP Jour 10 : Plettenberg Bay Jour 11,12 : Hermanus Jour 13,14,15 : Le Cap Jour 16,17 : Karoo NP Jour 18 : Kimberley Jour 19 retour sur JNB
Faire les 4 coins du pays en 19 jours et en voiture (solution Kruger+Le Cap) me semble vraiment 🤪...
L'autre solution aurait été de remplacer le Kruger par le Kgalagadi NP plus dans l'axe mais il ne doit plus y avoir de place depuis longtemps.😕
avant de passer par Price Albert (jolie bourgade)
C'est vrai, Himba, depuis que les bobos capetowniens ont investi Prince Albert c'est devenu un peu cher.😉
On n'ira pas à East London parce que ça fait pas mal d'heures de routes !
T'inquiète pas, au début ils ne devaient pas passer par la côte!😎
@Apolline La Grande: East London est sur la route entre PE et Jo'burg, à seulement 300 kms de PE, passer par là ou par ailleurs...
C'est vrai, Himba, depuis que les bobos capetowniens ont investi Prince Albert c'est devenu un peu cher.😉
On n'ira pas à East London parce que ça fait pas mal d'heures de routes !
T'inquiète pas, au début ils ne devaient pas passer par la côte!😎
@Apolline La Grande: East London est sur la route entre PE et Jo'burg, à seulement 300 kms de PE, passer par là ou par ailleurs...
Prince Albert...
Ça me rappelle quelque chose ce nom...😏
Ah oui! Les crayfish!🏴☠️😎
Bonjour Apolline,
L'Afrique du Sud est un bon choix, c'est magnifique. J'en garde un souvenir mémorable et pourtant j'y ai voyagé il y a plus de 10 ans.
La météo : c'est l'hiver comme il a été dit. Le matin il fait froid (dans le Kruger, il gèle même la nuit). La température monte jusqu'à 25 degrés parfois et à partir du coucher de soleil (vers 17h), elle chute. Ne pas oublier des vêtements chaud et sac de couchage thermique selon le type de voyage choisi)
Pour les points les plus beaux, je te conseille de suivre les conseils du site : http://www.bazbus.com Ok, c'est pour les backpackers mais cela donne un bon aperçu de ce qui est intéressant à voir, certaines auberges de jeunesse ont des chambres pour les familles, et proposent pleins d'activité et de mini tours, de très bonne qualité et peu onéreux (ex balades en montagne dans le Drakensberg, safari planifié pour moins cher depuis Johanesburg)
Je te conseille pour ma part l'itinéraire suivant en 3 semaines tout à fait faisable.
- Johanesburg : la ville a beaucoup changé, pour ma part, je suis allée voir Soweto et le musée de Nelson Mandela. Il y a Pretoria juste à côté aussi qui est une belle ville à voir mais je n'y suis pas allée. - Kruger Park : prévoir 3 jours pleins de Safaris minimum voire 4 mais c'est amplement suffisant et du verras sans doute les "big five" (c'est la bonne saison) - Le Kawazulu Natal et le Drakensberg : magnifiques randonnée de niveau tout à fait accessible pour les enfants. Guides en hôtel ou auberge de jeunesse. - Durban : pour voir la mer, très sympa. - La vallée des vins dans le centre du pays (là je n'étais plus en bazbus mais en compagnie privée) - Cape Town - Le Kalahari (un autre safari mais optionnel si tu as le temps). J'ai adoré, plus désertique et Retour Johanesburg en bus privé (liaison directe vers l'aéroport)
Pour la location de voiture, je ne m'embêterais pas à ta place. L'Afrique du Sud étant un pays où la sécurité des touristes est primordiale, il y a pas mal de compagnies de bus privées et confortables qui relient les points d'intérêt du pays (hormis le bazbus qui est vraiment génial car il t'emmène d'une auberge de jeunesse à une autre, et ton emploi du temps est hyper flexible grâce au pass) A l'aéroport, ne prend pas de taxi, pour des raisons de sécurité (à moins que cela ait changé) souvent les auberges de jeunesse ou hôtels ont leur navette (payante ou gratuite) pour venir te chercher à l'aéroport international Enfin, pas de souci majeur de sécurité si tu respectes ces règles. De toute façon, tout est bien étudié pour le tourisme ici, très bonnes infrastructures et autoroutes.
A ta diposition pour toute question,
Marie
L'Afrique du Sud est un bon choix, c'est magnifique. J'en garde un souvenir mémorable et pourtant j'y ai voyagé il y a plus de 10 ans.
La météo : c'est l'hiver comme il a été dit. Le matin il fait froid (dans le Kruger, il gèle même la nuit). La température monte jusqu'à 25 degrés parfois et à partir du coucher de soleil (vers 17h), elle chute. Ne pas oublier des vêtements chaud et sac de couchage thermique selon le type de voyage choisi)
Pour les points les plus beaux, je te conseille de suivre les conseils du site : http://www.bazbus.com Ok, c'est pour les backpackers mais cela donne un bon aperçu de ce qui est intéressant à voir, certaines auberges de jeunesse ont des chambres pour les familles, et proposent pleins d'activité et de mini tours, de très bonne qualité et peu onéreux (ex balades en montagne dans le Drakensberg, safari planifié pour moins cher depuis Johanesburg)
Je te conseille pour ma part l'itinéraire suivant en 3 semaines tout à fait faisable.
- Johanesburg : la ville a beaucoup changé, pour ma part, je suis allée voir Soweto et le musée de Nelson Mandela. Il y a Pretoria juste à côté aussi qui est une belle ville à voir mais je n'y suis pas allée. - Kruger Park : prévoir 3 jours pleins de Safaris minimum voire 4 mais c'est amplement suffisant et du verras sans doute les "big five" (c'est la bonne saison) - Le Kawazulu Natal et le Drakensberg : magnifiques randonnée de niveau tout à fait accessible pour les enfants. Guides en hôtel ou auberge de jeunesse. - Durban : pour voir la mer, très sympa. - La vallée des vins dans le centre du pays (là je n'étais plus en bazbus mais en compagnie privée) - Cape Town - Le Kalahari (un autre safari mais optionnel si tu as le temps). J'ai adoré, plus désertique et Retour Johanesburg en bus privé (liaison directe vers l'aéroport)
Pour la location de voiture, je ne m'embêterais pas à ta place. L'Afrique du Sud étant un pays où la sécurité des touristes est primordiale, il y a pas mal de compagnies de bus privées et confortables qui relient les points d'intérêt du pays (hormis le bazbus qui est vraiment génial car il t'emmène d'une auberge de jeunesse à une autre, et ton emploi du temps est hyper flexible grâce au pass) A l'aéroport, ne prend pas de taxi, pour des raisons de sécurité (à moins que cela ait changé) souvent les auberges de jeunesse ou hôtels ont leur navette (payante ou gratuite) pour venir te chercher à l'aéroport international Enfin, pas de souci majeur de sécurité si tu respectes ces règles. De toute façon, tout est bien étudié pour le tourisme ici, très bonnes infrastructures et autoroutes.
A ta diposition pour toute question,
Marie
Marie
proposent pleins d'activité et de mini tours, de très bonne qualité et peu onéreux ...Pour la location de voiture, je ne m'embêterais pas à ta place
Il n'est pas ici question d'un voyage en solo. A plusieurs, la formule location de voiture + camping ou logement en dur est souvent bien plus rentable. (Même tout seul, je ne suis pas sûre que le tarif en groupe soit si avantageux vu le niveau des prix pratiqués dans ce pays pour les transports et autres activités touristiques en groupe)
Par ailleurs, il faut aimé être guidé...
Johanesburg : la ville a beaucoup changé
Je m'y suis encore perdue cette année et je n'ai pas remarqué ces changements.😮
Guides
Inutiles pour une bonne partie des randonnées courtes.
Durban : pour voir la mer, très sympa.
Des goûts et des couleurs...
Il faut aimer les plages avec du béton derrière.
Personnellement, je préfère ceci .😉

Il n'est pas ici question d'un voyage en solo. A plusieurs, la formule location de voiture + camping ou logement en dur est souvent bien plus rentable. (Même tout seul, je ne suis pas sûre que le tarif en groupe soit si avantageux vu le niveau des prix pratiqués dans ce pays pour les transports et autres activités touristiques en groupe)
Par ailleurs, il faut aimé être guidé...
Johanesburg : la ville a beaucoup changé
Je m'y suis encore perdue cette année et je n'ai pas remarqué ces changements.😮
Guides
Inutiles pour une bonne partie des randonnées courtes.
Durban : pour voir la mer, très sympa.
Des goûts et des couleurs...
Il faut aimer les plages avec du béton derrière.
Personnellement, je préfère ceci .😉

Bien sûr que ça sert à quelque chose, surtout là!😇
Nous nous attendions à "Mille mercis"!😎
Bon voyage.
Bon voyage.
Salut Jean,
on ne s'est jamais contacté mais je fais souvent référence à toi (et Attila) dans mes réponses car je pense vraiment que vous êtes une encyclopédie du voyage. Ceci dit, je ne sais pas ce qu' Appoline vas faire pendant 11 jours près de Joburg! Je suis Belge mais j'ai rencontré une SAf il y a qqes années; on s'est marié et on a acheté une maison a Cape town. Je suis retraité mais j'ai passé ma vie dans les sports et je fais encore pas mal de chose actuellement: parapente, hélico, voile, montagne et plongée. Je n'ai pas d'expérience en safari mais je pense qu'un jour je me déciderais; d'ailleurs, ma femme aimerais sûrement çà. J'aurais des questions à te poser à ce moment là😉. Je te souhaite une bonne soirée.
claudy
on ne s'est jamais contacté mais je fais souvent référence à toi (et Attila) dans mes réponses car je pense vraiment que vous êtes une encyclopédie du voyage. Ceci dit, je ne sais pas ce qu' Appoline vas faire pendant 11 jours près de Joburg! Je suis Belge mais j'ai rencontré une SAf il y a qqes années; on s'est marié et on a acheté une maison a Cape town. Je suis retraité mais j'ai passé ma vie dans les sports et je fais encore pas mal de chose actuellement: parapente, hélico, voile, montagne et plongée. Je n'ai pas d'expérience en safari mais je pense qu'un jour je me déciderais; d'ailleurs, ma femme aimerais sûrement çà. J'aurais des questions à te poser à ce moment là😉. Je te souhaite une bonne soirée.
claudy
Salut Claw.
Il semble bien que le "près de jo-burg" brasse très large puisque ça comprend le Kruger et Sta Lucia...
😉
Et bonjour à Pauline ! Pardon : dis bonjour à Paul, Line ! Non, je veux dire :bonjour Apolline !
Apolline, Apollonia , tu crains pour ta sécurité comme toutes les Apollines , sauf Sainte Apolline, vieille bigote du 3e siècle qui, pour n'avoir pas été assez méfiante a fini massacrée par ce fourbe de Decius, les dents pétées puis jetée au bûcher...le genre de bonne femme assez inconsciente pour décider de rejoindre en stop depuis l'aéroport, son hôtel au centre de Johannesburg...😮 😊
Et bonjour à Pauline ! Pardon : dis bonjour à Paul, Line ! Non, je veux dire :bonjour Apolline !
Apolline, Apollonia , tu crains pour ta sécurité comme toutes les Apollines , sauf Sainte Apolline, vieille bigote du 3e siècle qui, pour n'avoir pas été assez méfiante a fini massacrée par ce fourbe de Decius, les dents pétées puis jetée au bûcher...le genre de bonne femme assez inconsciente pour décider de rejoindre en stop depuis l'aéroport, son hôtel au centre de Johannesburg...😮 😊
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Bonjour
Nous sommes allés en Afrique du Sud en février pendant 15 jours avec nos deux enfants de 9 ans et 13 ans.
Un voyage extraordiaire, pas de probème de sécurité (bien sur ne pas circuler la nuit) et faire attention dans les grandes villes. Le Cap est une ville assez tranquille par rapport aux autres.
Nous avions loué une voiture de Johannesburg direction le parc Kruger (que nous avons fait seul sans safari et nous avons vu les big five!!!).
Ensuite le swaziland et le pays zoulou, Sainte lucia top et Durban.
Durban, n'est pas une ville que nous avons beaucoup aimé.
De Durban, nous avons pris un vol low cost vers le Cap, qui est là une superbe ville et bonne ambiance.
Pour la sécurité, respecter quelques règles de base, pas de bijoux pas de gros appareil photo visible, pas de voiture de nuit, faire très attention dans les villes. Et vous passerai de superbes vacances.
Pour la sécurité, respecter quelques règles de base, pas de bijoux pas de gros appareil photo visible, pas de voiture de nuit, faire très attention dans les villes. Et vous passerai de superbes vacances.
Bonjour Sandrine,
Nous avions eu quelques échanges lors de la préparation de votre voyage en Afrique du Sud; je suis ravi d'apprendre que vous avez fait un voyage extraordiaire (il est vrai que c'est assez récent)!😉
Ce fut un voyage magnifique, difficile de rentrer après les deux semaines.....
J'espère ne pas te répondre trop tard, mais si vous passez par Graaf Reinet je te conseille absolument la Valley of Desolation, peu chère et accessible en voiture. J'ai vécu en Afrique du Sud, et eu l'occasion de silloner un peu le Karoo : cette vallée reste l'un de mes plus beaux souvenirs. Je voyageais alors avec des Norvégiens et nous nous y étions rendus en fin de journée, à l'heure ou le soleil décline. Peu connu des touristes, l'apéro perché en hauteur de cet écrin silencieux vaut vraiment le détour ! Bon voyage à vous !
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5 days in Armenia with an 8-month-old baby
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate. It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby; - the very family-friendly atmosphere; - the monasteries in incredible landscapes; - the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap; - the atmosphere of Geghard; - the cliffs of Noravank; - the food; - the feeling of safety; - the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected; - some roads are mountainous; - avoid overloading the day; - it’s better to have a driver or a car; - plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals; - a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites; - a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap Day 3: Garni + Geghard Day 4: Noravank + Areni Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly. It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
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I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
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Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu Morning & afternoon safari Overnight: Wilpattu Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee Nilaveli Beach Overnight: Trincomalee Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee Pigeon Island snorkeling Overnight: Trincomalee Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee Fort Frederick & relaxation Overnight: Trincomalee Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla Overnight: Sigiriya Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya Sigiriya Rock Overnight: Sigiriya Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya Minneriya safari Overnight: Sigiriya Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya Polonnaruwa & village tour Overnight: Sigiriya Day 11 – 04/26: Ella Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest Overnight: Ella Day 12 – 04/27: Ella Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge Overnight: Ella Day 13 – 04/28: Ella Ella Rock Overnight: Ella Day 14 – 04/29: Ella Tea Factory & relaxation Overnight: Ella Day 15 – 04/30: Yala Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari Overnight: Yala Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay Surfing & relaxation Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay Local exploration Overnight: Arugam Bay Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest Overnight: Colombo Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo City tour & shopping Overnight: Colombo Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo Morning return flight from Colombo
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13). We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊 Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit. We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places. We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think? We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah. Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary Day 1 Arrival around 1 PM at the airport Night in Negombo Day 2 Drive from Negombo to Galle Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 3 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Night in Galle Day 4 Visit Galle and surrounding areas Drive from Galle to Udawalawe Night in Udawalawe Day 5 Visit Udawalawe National Park Night in Udawalawe Day 6 Drive from Udawalawe to Ella Night in Ella Day 7 Ella Rock + Nine Arch Bridge Night in Ella Day 8 Visit Haputale Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory Train ride back from Haputale to Ella Night in Ella Day 9 Little Adam’s Peak + drive from Ella to Arugam Bay Night in Arugam Bay Day 10 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 11 Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas Night in Arugam Bay Day 12 Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 13 Visit Batticaloa Night in Batticaloa Day 14 Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya Night in Sigiriya Day 15 Lion Rock and Pidurangala Night in Sigiriya Day 16 Visit Dambulla Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee Night in Trincomalee Day 17 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 18 Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas Night in Trincomalee Day 19 Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 20 Visit Anuradhapura Night in Anuradhapura Day 21 Visit Mihintale Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo Night in Negombo Day 22 Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Hi everyone,
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July? Thanks for your input!
Hello,
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan: We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options: - Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van. - Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia. - Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
All advice is welcome!
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:** - Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:** - Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe? - Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season? - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest? - Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:** - Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?) - Any nice places to stay? - Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
See you soon! Christophe
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks. I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there. Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time. I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get. Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
Thanks, everyone.
Hi there
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
Have a great day Christelle
Hello,
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts: - For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days. - A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!) - With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions
Chers Voyageurs,
Nous sommes une famille avec de jeunes enfants ( 6 ans, 3 ans et un nouveau né) et souhaiterions partir une dizaine de jours en Aquitaine ( en Gironde ou dans les Landes). Nous aimerions nous trouver à proximité de jolis villages à visiter et si possible proches de la mer. Nous projetons de loger dans un camping avec une piscine afin que les enfants puissent jouer. Auriez-vous des lieux/ villages/campings à nous conseiller ? Nous ne connaissons pas du tout la région.
Merci beaucoup à vous !
Camille
Nous sommes une famille avec de jeunes enfants ( 6 ans, 3 ans et un nouveau né) et souhaiterions partir une dizaine de jours en Aquitaine ( en Gironde ou dans les Landes). Nous aimerions nous trouver à proximité de jolis villages à visiter et si possible proches de la mer. Nous projetons de loger dans un camping avec une piscine afin que les enfants puissent jouer. Auriez-vous des lieux/ villages/campings à nous conseiller ? Nous ne connaissons pas du tout la région.
Merci beaucoup à vous !
Camille
Hi there,
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Thanks so much,
Pierre
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon. 06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu 08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok 11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan 13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi 15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL 23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips? Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Hi there!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
After our Central Asia trip this summer, we’ll be setting foot in Africa for the first time next February with our three kids (ages 5, 13, and 17).
I’ve fine-tuned a little itinerary with ChatGPT based on our interests and expectations, and here’s what came out:
Tuesday, February 24 — Dakar
Landing at 1:00 AM
Early afternoon: visit Gorée Island
Back to Dakar, light dinner
7:00 PM: boarding the ferry “Aline Sitoé Diatta”
Overnight on board (cabin)
Wednesday, February 25 — Ziguinchor
Arrival between 9:00–11:00 AM
Staying with a local host
Stroll: Saint-Maur market, river port
Overnight in Ziguinchor
Thursday, February 26 – Saturday, February 28 — Casamance (Cap Skirring & Oussouye)
February 26: Ziguinchor → Carabane road trip, explore the island, overnight on the island
February 27: Cap Skirring, beach time
February 28: Cap Skirring, relaxation, stroll, beach
Sunday, March 1 – Tuesday, March 3 — Oussouye
Head to Oussouye (~1 hour)
Discover Diola villages, rice fields, market, handicrafts
Overnights: Oussouye (3 nights)
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting. - How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us? - Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower. - February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring. - Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area. After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport. Thanks in advance for your ideas. Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?
Hi there, I’m really sorry if this question has already been asked several times—I’ve been scouring blogs, forums, and various sites for a while now, but I still have some more specific questions for our trip...
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok. Do you think the following route would work? - Kuta Lombok - Gili Gede - Gili Meno - Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before? For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts? To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis? As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?
Thank you so much for your help! !
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok. Do you think the following route would work? - Kuta Lombok - Gili Gede - Gili Meno - Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before? For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts? To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis? As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?
Thank you so much for your help! !
Hi,
We’re looking at heading to South Africa this summer (early July) with our two kids (6 & 10 years old). Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary so far. What do you think? Is it better to skip Addo? (We can’t add any more days...). If so, should we spend more time on certain stops or add something else? (Cederberg?) Thanks in advance, Bruno
D1 Arrival at 10 AM, rest in Cape Town D2 Cape Town or Cape Peninsula D3 Cape Town or Cape Peninsula D4 Bonteboks National Park; overnight in Heidelberg D5 Botlierskop Game Drive; overnight near Mossel Bay D6 Garden Route; overnight in Plettenberg Bay D7 Bird of Eden and Robberg Nature Reserve; overnight in Plettenberg Bay D8 Tsitsikamma; overnight in Addo D9 Addo D10 Ostrich farm; overnight in Oudtshoorn D11 Buffelsdrift Game Lodge and caves; overnight in Oudtshoorn D12 Garden Route Game Lodge; overnight in Albertinia D13 De Hoop; overnight in De Hoop D14 Hermanus; overnight in Hermanus D15 Betty’s Bay and return to Cape Town D16 Cape Town; departure at 5 PM
We’re looking at heading to South Africa this summer (early July) with our two kids (6 & 10 years old). Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary so far. What do you think? Is it better to skip Addo? (We can’t add any more days...). If so, should we spend more time on certain stops or add something else? (Cederberg?) Thanks in advance, Bruno
D1 Arrival at 10 AM, rest in Cape Town D2 Cape Town or Cape Peninsula D3 Cape Town or Cape Peninsula D4 Bonteboks National Park; overnight in Heidelberg D5 Botlierskop Game Drive; overnight near Mossel Bay D6 Garden Route; overnight in Plettenberg Bay D7 Bird of Eden and Robberg Nature Reserve; overnight in Plettenberg Bay D8 Tsitsikamma; overnight in Addo D9 Addo D10 Ostrich farm; overnight in Oudtshoorn D11 Buffelsdrift Game Lodge and caves; overnight in Oudtshoorn D12 Garden Route Game Lodge; overnight in Albertinia D13 De Hoop; overnight in De Hoop D14 Hermanus; overnight in Hermanus D15 Betty’s Bay and return to Cape Town D16 Cape Town; departure at 5 PM





