Routes et hébergement à Ksar Ghilane?
by Bibofsky
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjours,
je vais me rendre à ksar ghilane au sud tunisien le 18 mars 2008, le probleme c'est que je ne dispose pas de 4x4, mais d'un véhicule touristique (clio) je voulais savoir si il y a une route goudronné qui mene jusqu'a ksar ghilane, si oui, c'est en partant de quelle ville ou village que je pourrais emprunté cette route.
sinon je voulais aussi avoir une idée sur les possibilités d'hébergement à ksar ghilane et si il y a des hotels ou un truc dans le genre pour s'abriter et combien ca coute.
merci d'avance.
J'y suis allé en avril dernier afin de loger au Pansea Ksar Ghilane (clique). J'utilisais mon 4X4 personnel, un Freelander II. Je pense qu'il est possible d'y aller en voiture "normale" ; j'ai vu quelques Clio et autres voitures françaises sur la route. Néanmoins, au niveau suspension ça doit être extrémement inconfortable ! Par ailleurs, le trajet doit être beaucoup plus long car sans la transmission 4X4, tu roules moins vite sur les pistes.
Bonjour,
La semaine dernière, j'étais avec des amis à Ksar Ghilane. L'un d'eux avec sa BMW 520. Une fois à Ksar Ghilane, tu vas voir plus de voitures normales que de 4X4. Avant de bitumer la piste, on ne pouvait accéder qu'en 4X4. Maintenant c'est tout goudronné jusqu'à l'arrivée à Ksar Ghilane. C'est dans l'oasis que ça devient de la piste, mais pas de soucis pour une voiture normale.
En partant de Matmata direction Douz, tu rencontres un carrefour où c'est indiqué Ksar Ghilane à gauche. A droite c'est une piste, faisable avec voiture de tourisme, qui mène à El Hamma.
Pour le logement, Le Panséa est l'hotel le plus cher de toute la Tunisie, dans les 250-300 Dinars la tente, surtout si tu arrives par tes propres moyens. Si non il y a le campement Ghilane, qui est nettement plus abordable. Contacte l'hotel Diar El Barbar à Matmata qui vont te donner les prix pour le campement et prendre ta réservation.
Bon voyage.
La semaine dernière, j'étais avec des amis à Ksar Ghilane. L'un d'eux avec sa BMW 520. Une fois à Ksar Ghilane, tu vas voir plus de voitures normales que de 4X4. Avant de bitumer la piste, on ne pouvait accéder qu'en 4X4. Maintenant c'est tout goudronné jusqu'à l'arrivée à Ksar Ghilane. C'est dans l'oasis que ça devient de la piste, mais pas de soucis pour une voiture normale.
En partant de Matmata direction Douz, tu rencontres un carrefour où c'est indiqué Ksar Ghilane à gauche. A droite c'est une piste, faisable avec voiture de tourisme, qui mène à El Hamma.
Pour le logement, Le Panséa est l'hotel le plus cher de toute la Tunisie, dans les 250-300 Dinars la tente, surtout si tu arrives par tes propres moyens. Si non il y a le campement Ghilane, qui est nettement plus abordable. Contacte l'hotel Diar El Barbar à Matmata qui vont te donner les prix pour le campement et prendre ta réservation.
Bon voyage.
Mehdi SELLAMI
Bonjour
Effectivement il y a une route goudronnée qui part de la bifurcation route C105 Matmata Douz à 31 Km de Matmata sur la gauche.
Si cette route est bien goudronnée il ne faut pas perdre de vue qu'elle traverse une partie désetique avec du sable qui recouvre la route en cas de vent, j'en ai fait l'expérience l'an passé et j'ai été obliger de faire demie tour car la voiture plantait dans le sable. Heureusement que des tours opérators m'ont sorti de cette galère avec des cordes.
S'il n'y a pas de sable le route est très roulante attention toutefois au nids de poules.
Claude
Je confirme ce qui a été dit.
La route qui mène à Ksar Ghilane est goudronnée et praticable en voiture normale. Je l'ai empruntée en décembre dernier avec une Clio de location. Attention au sable qui empiète parfois sur la route, mais rien de grave. Avant qu'elle ne soit goudronnée (il y a 3-4 ans, si j'ai bien compris) on l'appelait "piste de l'oléoduc" car elle longe un pipeline ; on passe d'ailleurs à côté d'une immense raffinerie. En fait, c'est une immense ligne droite de 80 km. C'est assez impressionnant. Je n'avais jamais vu ça, même dans l'Ouest américain 😮
C'est en fait à l'intérieur de l'oasis que la circulation en véhicule de tourisme est un peu plus compliquée. Le goudron s'arrête à l'entrée du village, ensuite il faut donc faire gaffe où on met ses roues 🤪 De toutes façons, il y a un va-et-vient touristique permanent, donc, tu trouveras toujours un 4x4 pour te filer un coup de main. Sinon, les gamins du village se feront un plaisir de venir pousser ta voiture, moyennant quelques centaines de millimes ou quelques bonbons (bon plan signé mlaurent1, les bonbons dans la boîte à gants 😉).
Pour le logement, mis à part le Pansea qui est archi-luxueux (vois plus haut), le reste est plutôt sommaire. Il n'y a pas "d'hôtel", seulement des "campements", c'est-à-dire des grandes tentes bédouines dont la plupart ne sont ni chauffées (l'hiver, ça caille grave) ni climatisées (en été, il fait facilement 50° à l'ombre... à condition de trouver de l'ombre 😕).
Ksar Ghilane, c'est une expérience !
La route qui mène à Ksar Ghilane est goudronnée et praticable en voiture normale. Je l'ai empruntée en décembre dernier avec une Clio de location. Attention au sable qui empiète parfois sur la route, mais rien de grave. Avant qu'elle ne soit goudronnée (il y a 3-4 ans, si j'ai bien compris) on l'appelait "piste de l'oléoduc" car elle longe un pipeline ; on passe d'ailleurs à côté d'une immense raffinerie. En fait, c'est une immense ligne droite de 80 km. C'est assez impressionnant. Je n'avais jamais vu ça, même dans l'Ouest américain 😮
C'est en fait à l'intérieur de l'oasis que la circulation en véhicule de tourisme est un peu plus compliquée. Le goudron s'arrête à l'entrée du village, ensuite il faut donc faire gaffe où on met ses roues 🤪 De toutes façons, il y a un va-et-vient touristique permanent, donc, tu trouveras toujours un 4x4 pour te filer un coup de main. Sinon, les gamins du village se feront un plaisir de venir pousser ta voiture, moyennant quelques centaines de millimes ou quelques bonbons (bon plan signé mlaurent1, les bonbons dans la boîte à gants 😉).
Pour le logement, mis à part le Pansea qui est archi-luxueux (vois plus haut), le reste est plutôt sommaire. Il n'y a pas "d'hôtel", seulement des "campements", c'est-à-dire des grandes tentes bédouines dont la plupart ne sont ni chauffées (l'hiver, ça caille grave) ni climatisées (en été, il fait facilement 50° à l'ombre... à condition de trouver de l'ombre 😕).
Ksar Ghilane, c'est une expérience !
merci beaucoup beaucoup pour toutes ces informations, c'est vraiment precieux j'ai galéré pour les avoir, ni l'office national du tourisme, ni le ministere de l'amenagement ne m'ont donné reponse satisfaisante.. vraiment merci beaucoup..
à l'aventuuuuuuuuure, la clio va devoir faire ses preuves :-)
juste un dernier detail, si jamais je laisse la voiture garé au village, vu que c'est là que la route s'arrete, et que je m'arrange pour me rendre à un campement pour y passé la nuit, est ce que la voiture sera en sureté garée toute seule au village, ou il y a du soucis à ce faire ??
juste un dernier detail, si jamais je laisse la voiture garé au village, vu que c'est là que la route s'arrete, et que je m'arrange pour me rendre à un campement pour y passé la nuit, est ce que la voiture sera en sureté garée toute seule au village, ou il y a du soucis à ce faire ??
Il n'y a pas trop de souci à se faire, je pense.
Mais tu peux aussi accéder aux campements avec la voiture, même si ça n'est pas goudronné. C'est jouable, et ça t'évitera de te faire du mauvais sang toute la nuit.
Plus globalement, je ne suis pas persuadé de l'intérêt de passer une nuit à Ksar Ghilane. L'intérêt de ce bled, éventuellement, c'est de l'utiliser comme point de départ pour partir en excursion en chameau (ou en 4x4) 1, 2 ou 3 jours dans le désert de dunes (mais se renseigner avant, il n'y a pas des départs tous les jours selon la saison). En soi, Ksar Ghilane, c'est 1 heure de route (la ligne droite de 80 km), 1/2 heure de "visite" (il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, si ce n'est un truc du bout du monde) et basta.
Plus globalement, je ne suis pas persuadé de l'intérêt de passer une nuit à Ksar Ghilane. L'intérêt de ce bled, éventuellement, c'est de l'utiliser comme point de départ pour partir en excursion en chameau (ou en 4x4) 1, 2 ou 3 jours dans le désert de dunes (mais se renseigner avant, il n'y a pas des départs tous les jours selon la saison). En soi, Ksar Ghilane, c'est 1 heure de route (la ligne droite de 80 km), 1/2 heure de "visite" (il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, si ce n'est un truc du bout du monde) et basta.
Bonjour bibofsky
Pour Ksar Ghilane en mars c 'est une bonne idée de voire ! mais oui il y a une route goudronnée qui méne labas !! mais les derniers 5 km seront penibles avec ton clio !! car c'est un piste envahit par les sables !! mais bon courage cette oasis du désert mérite quelques coups de pelle !! si tu as du chance tu trouveras des amateurs de 4x4 qui tu sauvent ! (je blague pas dure à ce point)
A ksar Ghilane il y a plusieurs campements
Ali :)
Bienvenus :)
merci encore,
pour les campements, les prix varient entre combien ?? et qui est ce que je peux contacté pour reservé ? car j'ai trouvé quelques numéro sur le net mais aucun ne marche, et je voudrais pas qu'en arrivant à ksar ghilane, je ne trouve pas ou passé la nuit :-s !
aussi qui aurai une idée, de la distance, le km entre douz et ksar ghilane par cette route ??
quant à ksar ghilane meme, je sais bien qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, c'est effectivement ce que je cherche, une bonne demi journée et une soirée en plein desert, là ou tu te sent vraiment loin de tout, le silence, le calme, la nature desertique, la simplicité de la vie...rien que pour ca, ca vaut la galere de la route :-)
aussi qui aurai une idée, de la distance, le km entre douz et ksar ghilane par cette route ??
quant à ksar ghilane meme, je sais bien qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, c'est effectivement ce que je cherche, une bonne demi journée et une soirée en plein desert, là ou tu te sent vraiment loin de tout, le silence, le calme, la nature desertique, la simplicité de la vie...rien que pour ca, ca vaut la galere de la route :-)
une bonne demi journée et une soirée en plein desert, là ou tu te sent vraiment loin de tout, le silence, le calme, la nature desertique, la simplicité de la vie...rien que pour ca, ca vaut la galere de la route :-)
ksar ghilane c'est pas du tout ça, ça ressemble à un campement militaire pour touristes,
😎
ksar ghilane c'est pas du tout ça, ça ressemble à un campement militaire pour touristes,
😎
Bonsoir
Pour les prix j'ai pas une idée bien précise mais, ces sont des prix ordinaires abordables car en fin ces des campements et non pas des hôtels, , donc la nuit sera sous une tente bedouine, exception faite du campement PAn Sea ou les prix dépassent le 120 dinars pour ses tentes de luxe climatisées et avec un Wc ............... distance Douz-Ksar Ghilane c est environ 120 km... payasages désertiques mountanaises puis à une vigntaine de Ksar Ghilane commencent les grosses de dunes de sable au couleur rougeatre
Ksar Ghilane est un oasis planté au coeur des dunes, , de verdure au milieu de nul part ... une petite merveille !! la nuit une soirée dans le café au bord du petit lac chaud ( il faut pas oublier les maillot de bain ) ou sur les dunes sous les milles etoiles !!
Ali :)
Pour Ksar Ghilane, il est un peu difficile de se connecter par téléphone, mais si tu trouve pas comment reserver et les coup de fils ne passe pas, je peux le faire a ta place, , juste passe moi ton nom e prénom et la nuit ou tu sera la bas !! ( ça sera par fax, et tu auras une copie de reservation+OK ds ta boite )
AMICALEMENT
Ali :)
Bienvenus :)
Là tu abuses, mon gars. 😠
On t'a bien renseigné parce que c'est le principe même de ce genre de forum, mais on n'est pas non plus assistante sociale.
Tu connais le principes des guides de voyage ? Tu verrasn, c'est assez pratique pour trouver les coordonnées et les prix des hôtels...
Et le principe de la carte routière ? Ca aussi, c'est assez pratique pour calculer le kilométrage...
Forum d'entraide ne veut pas dire larbins. 😠
merci beaucoup ALI, c'est precieux comme information, en faie, moi meme je suis originaire du sud, exactement de nefta, malheureusement je n'y est jamais vecu, bref... bon, je vais te filé mon numero par mp, ainsi que mon msn comme ca on pourra parlé tranquillement sans que laurent ne se mette sur ses nerfs, mdr..
quant à toi cher laurent, on voit bien que tu vis en france, la carte routiere, j'en ai pas trouvé en tunisie, et le guide michelin ca se vend pas à tunis, les guides de voyage, ca se vend peut etre aux kiosk à journeaux en france, mais non pas à tunis, l'office national de tourisme c'est long pour avoir la reponse qu'on veut comme toute administration tunisienne (revien demain !), le ministere de l'equipement et de l'amenagement du territoire m'ont orienté vers le gouvernerat de tataouine, celui ci ne repond pas !! le 1200 (renseignement telephoniques tunisien) n'ont rien trouvé sur l'hebergement à ksar ghilane.. en bref laurent, ICI EN TUNISIE, tout se fait de bouche à oreil entre bon hommes tunisiens, et on se compren tres bien entre nous, je ne vois pas ce qui te derange ?
bon merci commem, ali on reste en contacte, voici mon msn : nhebheb@hotmail.com tu m'envoi le tien stp ? et encore merci pour tout.
bon merci commem, ali on reste en contacte, voici mon msn : nhebheb@hotmail.com tu m'envoi le tien stp ? et encore merci pour tout.
ca tombe bien, j'ai preparé moi meme un circuit au sud tunisien avec un arret sur tout les points essentiel et à ne pas manqué, si tu veux jette un oeuil la dessus, je l'ai posté afin que les internaute me disent leur avis.tu peux emprunté le meme itineraire.
le titre du message uqe j'ai postulé c'est : Circuit au Sud tunisien en voiture touristique bibofsky.
"quant à ksar ghilane meme, je sais bien qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à voir, c'est effectivement ce que je cherche, une bonne demi journée et une soirée en plein desert, là ou tu te sent vraiment loin de tout, le silence, le calme, la nature desertique, la simplicité de la vie...rien que pour ca, ca vaut la galere de la route :-)"..........
je voudrais pas jouer les défaitistes mais pour trouver tout çà cherche plutôt à éviter ksar ghilane ! ya rien d'authentique là-bas, ce ne sont que des hotels et des campements, et bien sur des boutiques ! quant à prendre un maillot de bain pour le "petit lac" (sic !!!!!) faut en vouloir, en france on appelle çà plutôt une grande mare et quand j'y suis allée c'était cradosse ! en plus, elle est située au milieu des bars et des boutiques, et tu as là 50 personnes plantées qui te regarde faire plouf et je te raconte même pas si ya une femme avec toi, là c'est pire, bienvenu au spectacle ! je suis pas spécialement prude mais c'est extrémement désagréable. d'autre part si on part du principe que l'on est dans un pays musulman, c'est pas trés bien vu. donc moi je n'ai même pas essayé. mais chacun ses choix. et je n'ai pas eu de problème pour circuler en dehors de la route c'est à dire sur les pistes situées dans l'oasis, avec une voiture classique.
je voudrais pas jouer les défaitistes mais pour trouver tout çà cherche plutôt à éviter ksar ghilane ! ya rien d'authentique là-bas, ce ne sont que des hotels et des campements, et bien sur des boutiques ! quant à prendre un maillot de bain pour le "petit lac" (sic !!!!!) faut en vouloir, en france on appelle çà plutôt une grande mare et quand j'y suis allée c'était cradosse ! en plus, elle est située au milieu des bars et des boutiques, et tu as là 50 personnes plantées qui te regarde faire plouf et je te raconte même pas si ya une femme avec toi, là c'est pire, bienvenu au spectacle ! je suis pas spécialement prude mais c'est extrémement désagréable. d'autre part si on part du principe que l'on est dans un pays musulman, c'est pas trés bien vu. donc moi je n'ai même pas essayé. mais chacun ses choix. et je n'ai pas eu de problème pour circuler en dehors de la route c'est à dire sur les pistes situées dans l'oasis, avec une voiture classique.
Bonsoir,
Je suis revenu de Tunisie vendredi, et justement je suis passée à Ksar Ghilane!
Alors si mon avis t'intêrèsse voilà mon experience :
Nous sommes arrivés en 4x4 je ne me souviens plus l'état de la route mais sur place il y avait des voitures ordinaires et des caravannes donc je suppose qu'en Clio c'est possible.
Nous avons dormis dans les tentes les moins chères 1 ou 2 dinards la nuit, pas de chauffage, les sanitaires à l'extèrieur, autant te dire que je me suis bien gelé, on est en février peut être qu'en mars il fera moins froid... en tout cas c'est à faire je ne regrette pas. Ce que je regrette c'est de ne pas avoir emporté de pyjama en laine avec chauffage intégré :) mais heureusmenent je venas d'acheter une Kechabia en laine et je l'avais entouré autour de mes pieds.
La nourriture n'est pas gastronomique mais pas moins bien que dans les hôtels qu'on a pu faire par la suite. Un des serveurs était super sympa, il nous a donné du pain cuit dans le sable alors qu'ils ne l'avaient fait que pour eux, puis il nous a invité le soir à discuter et à faire de la musique sous la tente, avec le veilleur de nuit et le responsable du campement.
Pour le petit lac d'eau chaude si il à l'air "crado" c'est parce que c'est de l'eau sulfureuse et qu'il y a de la boue, personnellement nous étions plusieurs à nous y être baigné et c'était trés agréable même si il faisait froid et qu'effectivement c'est au beau milieu des boutiques et du bar mais franchement je n'ai pas sentie qu'on nous épiait, j'avais un deux pièces rose avec de coeurs et nous étions quasiment que des femmes. En fin de compte il n'y avait que 2 tunisiens qui tenaient les boutiques le reste était des touristes allemands et français.
Ensuite derrières commence le desert avec ses dunes et quelques palmiers, magnifique couché et levé de soleil.
J'ai demandé le prix de la nuit sous les tentes ultra luxe c'est 200 dinars apparement!
Voilà, merci d'avoir lu mon roman :)
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1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!





