Je planifie un voyage à Kiev l'été prochain, et je souhaite le faire en train. J'ai consulté le site des trains allemands, mais il donne les trains qui passent par Berlin. Or, j'ai lu, je ne sais plus où, qu'il y avait possibilité de passer par Prague et Budapest.
Est-ce que quelqu'un est au courant, et est-ce que'on peut me donner une idée du prix ?
Un dernier détail : je veux absolument éviter de passer par la Biélorussie !
Il n'y a aucune bizarrerie sur le site bahn.de, l'itinéraire via Berlin étant le plus rapide (40h)
Maintenant si tu vas passer par ici ou par là, il suffit de cliquer sur "via", une autre case va apparaître et tu pourras entrer la gare de transit (2 maximum). Attention de bien mettre les noms de ville en allemand (Praha pour Prague)
J'ai fait il y a quelques années le voyage en train jusqu'à Kiev.
J'avais acheté l'horaire Thomas Cook et j'ai constitué le voyage en choisissant les horaires. Je suis passée par Vienne, Budapest, Kosice, Lvov puis Kiev.
Retour par la Pologne, puis Bratislava etc. toujours en train.
Je me suis arrêtée à Vienne et Budapest pendant quelques jours. Depuis Budapest, train de nuit jusqu'à Lvov où je suis restée une dizaine de jours.
Mais le même train continue directement sur Kiev.
Voici un site où vous trouvez vos horaires et même je pense le prix:
Merci à toutes et tous !
Tous vos renseignements sont précieux, et je commence déjà à les exploiter.
J'espère trouver mon bonheur dans tout cela.
En ce qui concerne l'horaire Thomas Cook, j'avais déjà hésité à l'acheter en ligne, voilà qui fait sauter mes hésitations !
Encore mille fois merci à tous, et s'il y en a qui connaissent Krementchoug, je suis preneur de toute info !
😄😛😠😏Hallo!
L'itinéraire Paris-Kiev est trés intéressant, avec le changement des chassis à Chop, car l'écartement "Russien" est different de cel europeen(cm 1434-cm 1520 Ukraine+ex UdssR).
De Paris il n y a plus de liaisons directes(comme en temps du train"Ost West Express" Paris-Moscou, avec voitures directes pour Kiew).
Haujourd'hui circulent des differents trains, formés par Wagon Lits à double écartement, de Prague(Krakow-Przmyszl-Lvov), Vienne(Bratislava-Chop-Lvov-Kiyew), Budapest(Chop-Lvov-Kyew, le meilleur trains avec plusieurs voitures directes).
De Paris, avec train de nuit( on peut arriver a Munich à 08.56, et continuer sur Budapest à 09.26(EC 63 Munich-Vienne-Budapest, arrivé à 16.46), et sur Kiew(dep:18.15;ar:20.06 à Kyew, train composé seulement par Vagon Lits en provenance de Budapest, Zagreb, Venice, Belgrade, pour Moscou, Kyew, Minsk).
Je dois controler les prix sur le site Ukrainien, et j'enverrai un nouveau message si Vous etes interessé.
Salutations
Poerio
Pour info une autre possibilité que je viens d'expérimenter il y a 3 semaines (mais j'habite l'est de la France et je ne passe pas par Paris):
Par Francfort rejoindre Dresden puis passer en Pologne via Gorlitz jusqu'à Wroclaw. Ensuite Wroclaw / Krakow et train jusqu'à Lviv. Ou bien Krakow / Warszawa et attraper le train Warszawa/Kiev/Simferopol.
Le site de Deutsche Bahn donne tous les horaires, le détail des arrêts intermédiaires et même assez souvent les n° des quais.
Merci de ces indications. déciément, Deutsche Bahn semble beaucoup plus complet que Sncf !
Savez-vous s'il y a besoin de papiers particuliers pour la Pologne ? La dernière fois que j'y suis allé, c'était en 1995, et il fallait un visa, mais maintenant que ce pays est en CEE, même s'il n'est pas dans l'espace Schengen, ça a dû changer, non ?
Une carte d'identité suffit pour la Pologne. On peut être controlé 2 fois: par les allemands et par les polonais car la Pologne ne fait pas partie de l'espace Schengen. Mais ce sont des controles tres alleges pour les ressortissants de l'UE.
Je cherches un train qui soit le plus direct possible entre bratislava et lviv ou bratislava et kiev... en existe t'il un ? je suis pret a aller a vienne si necessaire pour avoir un train encore plus direct... car actuellement les seuls trains que j'ai trouvé mettent a peu pres 12h au depart de kosice...je sais qu'il y a un changement de rail mais ca me parait relativement long par rapport a la distance..
Bonsoir!
Je viens de lire Votre post dans ce site.et je suis hereux de pouvoir Vous aider.Je Vous prie aussi de m'excuser si mon Français n'est toujours comprendhable(Je l'ai etudié pour 9 ans, et je ne le pratique plus depuis j'ai commencé l'étude de l'Allemand), mais j'espère que mes infos pourraient Vous aider.
Pour une meilleur étude des horaires, je desirais savoir si votre voyage est effectué en train dejà de votre ville de residence en France.
Le Wagon Lit de Chemins de Fer Ukrainiens permets la liaison directe entre Vienne Sudbahnhof et Lviv/Kyew/Moscou, et, à la gare de frontière de Chop, les essieux doivent etre changés à cause de la difference en ecartement des rails(1, 435Metres en Europe, 1, 520 dans les etats de l'ex USSR).
Ces procediments necessitent d 'environs 2/3 heures, et je dois aussi segnaler que le train est très longue car il est composé par diverses Vagon Lits en provenance de Budapest/Zagreb/Belgrade pour Lviv/Kyew/Moscou.
Le depart de Vienne Sudbahnhof(Coté Est/Ostseite) est à 11.28, de Bratislava Hlavnà à 13.47, avec arrivéé à Lviv à 8.59.
Salutations
Poerio
Bonsoir, tout d'abord merci de ta réponse..
Mon trajet serait effectué en train au départ de la slovaquie soit depuis bratislava ou trnava ou kosice..
en vérité il m'est aussi possible d'aller jusqu'en voiture à la frontière slovaquie-ukraine, et de continuer après avec un autre moyen..
ou encore de prendre directement le train a vienne si celui ci est direct jusqu'a lviv
J'ai donc plusieurs possibilités, mais je cherche simplement le moyen le plus rapide et bon marché pour me rendre jusqu'à lviv (pour un WE de 4jours)..sachant que je peux partir de vienne/bratislava/trnava/kosice...
Sinon n'y a t'il pas d'autres moyens moins long que le train ?
lviv vaut il le coup d'etre visité ou faut il aller seulement a kiev ?
quelles précautions faut il prendre avant de se rendre en ukraine ?
enfin penses tu qu'il est possible de faire ce trajet aller retour +visites en 4jours ?
Hallo!
Je crois que le moyen meilleur est l'avion, de Vienne où Bratislava;je connais seulement les trains, car je suis depuis longtemps, passionné en cette matière.Le voyage en train est très long est, pour un weekend de 4 jours, compris le voyage, c'est beaucoup de temps utilisé seulement pour le voyage.
A' la frontière il n'y a plus de problèmes, comme une fois, et le visa pour les citoyens UE, n'est plus necessaire.
J'espère de pouvoir t'aider, malgré mes infos soient seulement à regard des horaires des trains.
Bon voyage
Salutations
Poerio
Pour ceux qui tomberait sur cette discussion, voilà des petites infos d'actualités en mars 2013.
Pour ma part, je souhaitais aller à Kiev en train (c'est un peu plus cher que l'avion, mais on prend le temps d'arriver).
Auprès d'une agence de voyage, j'ai trouvé assez facilement un Paris-Kiev avec seulement deux changements à Berlin et Warsawa, sans passer par la Bièlorussie (évitant ainsi les démarches de Visa de transit).
Trajet effectué en 37heures seulement.
Tarif à environ 200 € + 20€ de frais d'agence.
Deux nuits dans le train (dont la deuxième en couchette).
...et le plaisir de prendre le temps d'arriver...ce n'est pas le Transsibérien, mais on s'en aproche doucement.
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Hi there,
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24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
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10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
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We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
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