A vélo du sud du Yunnan jusqu'au Tibet
by Folâtre
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je suis actuellement à Xiamen, sur la côte chinoise en face de Taiwan, et prépare le projet de voyage suivant :
Xishuangbanna (sud du yunnan) à Lhassa (Tibet) en vélo et bus.
De quelque flâneur ayant déjà parcouru cette lande, j'aimerais recevoir des infos sur la qualité des routes, des conseils pratiques et pourquoi pas des recommandations d'endroits à ne pas rater!!!
En vous remerciant d'avance,
Philippe
Vous savez probablement que vous ne pouvez aller au Tibet ans avoir votre permis spécial. Vous ne pouvez voyager seul au Tibet, vous devez être accompagné de votre guide en tout temps.
Oui, ca c'est sur et je viens de me renseigner via une agence de voyage locale... c'est pas donne......A moins de partager des transports et des visites....Il faut le permit avnt d'y aller...
Vous savez probablement que vous ne pouvez aller au Tibet ans avoir votre permis spécial. Vous ne pouvez voyager seul au Tibet, vous devez être accompagné de votre guide en tout temps.
Et un étranger ne peut pas prendre les transports en commun au Tibet (à part les bus de ville)
Et un étranger ne peut pas prendre les transports en commun au Tibet (à part les bus de ville)
Hello,
Avec ma compagne, nous avons visité le Yunnan durant tout le mois de novembre 2013, du Xishuangbanna au sud jusqu'aux Gorges du Saut du Tigre au nord. Nous nous sommes déplacés sans problème avec les bus publics locaux.
Au Xishuangbanna, nous avons beaucoup aimé le magnifique jardin de plantes tropicales de Menglun, sa zone de foret primaire préservée ainsi que ses plantations de palmiers et d'extraordinaires ficus "étrangleurs". Nous avons aussi aimé les routes et les superbes paysages soit entre Yuanyang, Luchun, Jiangcheng et Menglun, soit entre cette dernière, Puer et Simao, avec leurs plantations de théiers, de caféiers et de bananiers. Bien sûr, en bus, c'était plus facile qu' en vélo...
Au centre du Yunnan, nous avons aimé YuanYang et ses rizières en terrasse, remplies d'eau et cultivées comme il y a des siècles, avec le buffle, la charrue en bois et de vieux couples de paysans chinois à la manœuvre. Nous avons aussi particulièrement aimé Jianshui, avec sa vieille ville, encore pas trop touristique, où l'on a passé quelques jours agréables et tranquilles à flaner et à visiter.
Au nord, Dali et Lijiang bien sûr, avec pour finir une magnifique randonnée en balcon dans les gorges du saut du Tigre en logeant à Qiaotou (prononcer Chiaotao ...).
Voilà, une très belle région, mais quand même surement dure en vélo ...
Si tu es encore à Xiamen, peut être pourrais tu aller dans la région des Tulous, ces énormes et étonnantes maisons claniques rondes qui valent vraiment le déplacement. Nous y sommes allés de Xiamen en bus en octobre (3 heures de route) et nous avons logé dans le village de Liulian, district de Yongding. Ce village est bien car un peu à l'écart de l'agitation touristique.
Voilà, profite bien du Yunnan car c'est une région superbe aux paysages, à l'architecture et aux cultures extrêmement variés, avec une population adorable. Bon voyage.
Avec ma compagne, nous avons visité le Yunnan durant tout le mois de novembre 2013, du Xishuangbanna au sud jusqu'aux Gorges du Saut du Tigre au nord. Nous nous sommes déplacés sans problème avec les bus publics locaux.
Au Xishuangbanna, nous avons beaucoup aimé le magnifique jardin de plantes tropicales de Menglun, sa zone de foret primaire préservée ainsi que ses plantations de palmiers et d'extraordinaires ficus "étrangleurs". Nous avons aussi aimé les routes et les superbes paysages soit entre Yuanyang, Luchun, Jiangcheng et Menglun, soit entre cette dernière, Puer et Simao, avec leurs plantations de théiers, de caféiers et de bananiers. Bien sûr, en bus, c'était plus facile qu' en vélo...
Au centre du Yunnan, nous avons aimé YuanYang et ses rizières en terrasse, remplies d'eau et cultivées comme il y a des siècles, avec le buffle, la charrue en bois et de vieux couples de paysans chinois à la manœuvre. Nous avons aussi particulièrement aimé Jianshui, avec sa vieille ville, encore pas trop touristique, où l'on a passé quelques jours agréables et tranquilles à flaner et à visiter.
Au nord, Dali et Lijiang bien sûr, avec pour finir une magnifique randonnée en balcon dans les gorges du saut du Tigre en logeant à Qiaotou (prononcer Chiaotao ...).
Voilà, une très belle région, mais quand même surement dure en vélo ...
Si tu es encore à Xiamen, peut être pourrais tu aller dans la région des Tulous, ces énormes et étonnantes maisons claniques rondes qui valent vraiment le déplacement. Nous y sommes allés de Xiamen en bus en octobre (3 heures de route) et nous avons logé dans le village de Liulian, district de Yongding. Ce village est bien car un peu à l'écart de l'agitation touristique.
Voilà, profite bien du Yunnan car c'est une région superbe aux paysages, à l'architecture et aux cultures extrêmement variés, avec une population adorable. Bon voyage.
Philippe
Bonjour,
Avez vous achete le velo sur place ou vous avez trouve a louer?
Avez vous un plan de location de velo a Kunming pour se ballader autour?
merci a ceux qui peuvent donner des indices.
Il me semble que la route entre Lijiang et Lhasa est toujours fermé au tourisme (region de Chamdo fermée a double tour).
Merci ta réponse qui va au-delà de mes attentes,
nous comptons effectuer le voyage suivant :
-trek dans la jungle au sud d'une semaine en passant par quelques petits villages
-1 semaine au temple wu wei si près de dali vivre rythme de moines
-1 semaine ou l'on parcours lieux touristiques comme rizières, gorges, shilin (forêt de pierres).
-1 semaine de marge
Je suis effectivement allé à Tulou! Joli paysages, culture très particulière. Malheureusement très mauvais guide qui ne m'en a pas appris plus qu'à mon arrivée. Et tulous reconvertis en fêtes foraines ou l'on vient casser la tirelire.
Merci encore pour ton message,
Fol
Philippe,
Voici un lien qui résume la situation du Tibet (emission aujourd'hui). http://www.thelandofsnows.com/2014-tibet-travel-regulations/
Pour connaître les régions ouvertes au tourisme, et les régions qui ne le sont pas
Voici un lien qui résume la situation du Tibet (emission aujourd'hui). http://www.thelandofsnows.com/2014-tibet-travel-regulations/
Pour connaître les régions ouvertes au tourisme, et les régions qui ne le sont pas
Bonjour,
finalement nous allons nous résoudre à faire une croix sur le Tibet profond ; trop compliqué pour le peu de temps qu'il nous reste d'organisation.
Nous pensons acheter des vélos à Kunming et faire une boucle jusqu'à Dali en passant par :
Shilin
Jianshui
Yuanyang
Pu'er
(Pas encore sûrs de quelle route emprunter pour parcourir de pu'er à Dali).
De Dali, nous prendrions un avion pour Shangrila.
J'aimerais savoir si vous avez :
- des conseils quand aux routes à emprunter pour rejoindre ces différents points (kunming->shilin, shilin->jianshui, jianshui->yuanyang, etc...)-
- des recommandations quant à quel magasin aller pour acquérir la bicyclette (un tandem si possible!).
- une idée des jolies routes rejoignant puer à Dali
Merci,
fol
Salut Phil,
Pas vu de tandem mais il y a des velos a carrefour (a Kunming) Autrement, les marchands de velos et scooter sont plutot en peripherie de la ville. Bon voyage!...et surtout bon courage pour ce tour a velo..! En ce qui me concerne, j'ai renonce au Tibet. On me demandait trop cher...! Retour au Nepal!😉
Pas vu de tandem mais il y a des velos a carrefour (a Kunming) Autrement, les marchands de velos et scooter sont plutot en peripherie de la ville. Bon voyage!...et surtout bon courage pour ce tour a velo..! En ce qui me concerne, j'ai renonce au Tibet. On me demandait trop cher...! Retour au Nepal!😉
Les seuls tandems que j'ai jamais vus en Chine étaient en location dans des zones touristiques (Yangshuo, par exemple) : des engins lourds et robustes inadaptés à des randonnées longues ou en montagne.
Bonjour Folatre
Deja pas de vol de Dali pour Shangri-la
Pas facile de sortir une ville moderne souvent en bouchon comme Kunming, par contre avec un GPS, ca ira
En ete, il y a toujours plein de bicycliste qui roulent sur la route du sud de Yunnnan au Tibet et surement vous trouverez facilement de la compagnie sur la route
bonjour
voyageons A VELO depuis le Myanmar vers RUILI / DALI.......... serons sans doute a DALI ET LIJIANG mi MAI 2014, si tout va bien
serions contents de vous rencontrer pour discuter .................de voyages A VELO, entre autres
cordialement
Patrice
voyageons A VELO depuis le Myanmar vers RUILI / DALI.......... serons sans doute a DALI ET LIJIANG mi MAI 2014, si tout va bien
serions contents de vous rencontrer pour discuter .................de voyages A VELO, entre autres
cordialement
Patrice
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We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
