Vertige et tour du Manaslu et franchissement du Larkya La
by Steph64100
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonsoir,
Interessée par le tour du Manaslu, je suis svp a la recherche de renseignements quant à sa diificulté pour quelqu' un qui a l appréhension du vide..egalement le franchissement du larkya la est il aérien?je remercie toutes les personnes qui auront la gentillesse de m' apporter une réponse..(j' ai pour expérience le tour des annapurnas avant la construction de la route)
Je ne suis pas sujet au vertige mais j'ai fait le tour du Manaslu et le tour des Annapurnas. Pour moi, le Larkye La est assez comparable au Thorong La. Il est pas plus aérien. La seule difficulté est que la descente peut être un peu glacée et donc moins aisée que celle du Thorong La.
Je ne suis pas sujet au vertige mais j'ai fait le tour du Manaslu et le tour des Annapurnas. Pour moi, le Larkye La est assez comparable au Thorong La. Il est pas plus aérien. La seule difficulté est que la descente peut être un peu glacée et donc moins aisée que celle du Thorong La.
Je confirme : pas vraiment aérien, mais le risque vient de la neige ou de la glace sur le sentier ... Bref, sans problème dans de bonne conditions de temps ... reste qu'à cette altitude, le facteur temps est déterminant Bon trek
Je confirme : pas vraiment aérien, mais le risque vient de la neige ou de la glace sur le sentier ... Bref, sans problème dans de bonne conditions de temps ... reste qu'à cette altitude, le facteur temps est déterminant Bon trek
michel mathieu
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Bonjour, merci a tous pour vos réponses..elles m ouvrent des perspectives..merci pour vos avis eclaires👍
bonjour
je confirme également ce qui a été dit dans les messages précédents.
le larkya la est comparable au thorung pass , pas aérien c'est juste une longue descente de 1600 m jusqu'à bintang qui peux être enneigée ( pour mon cas ) ou gelée . chrystelle
je confirme également ce qui a été dit dans les messages précédents.
le larkya la est comparable au thorung pass , pas aérien c'est juste une longue descente de 1600 m jusqu'à bintang qui peux être enneigée ( pour mon cas ) ou gelée . chrystelle
bonjour,
je confirme la description du col : la descente est raide, enneigée et parfois gelée. par contre, il faut savoir que les chemins du bas de la vallée sont eux aériens : corniches, étroits, beaucoup de montées et descentes... Il est parfois nécessaire de faire demi-tour pour laisser passer les mules et leurs chargements ! ce n'est pas dangereux, ça peut être impressionnant !
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ps : voir la photo jointe

je confirme la description du col : la descente est raide, enneigée et parfois gelée. par contre, il faut savoir que les chemins du bas de la vallée sont eux aériens : corniches, étroits, beaucoup de montées et descentes... Il est parfois nécessaire de faire demi-tour pour laisser passer les mules et leurs chargements ! ce n'est pas dangereux, ça peut être impressionnant !
Dominique
ps : voir la photo jointe

je vous remercie pour toutes ces réponses..effectivement ce trek parait un petit peu plus aérien ou "glissant" que le tour des Annapurnas, pour moi du moins..merci pour la photo qui est parlante sur le sentier de fond de vallée..
Interessée par le tour du Manaslu, je suis svp a la recherche de renseignements quant à sa diificulté pour quelqu' un qui a l appréhension du vide..egalement le franchissement du larkya la est il aérien?je remercie toutes les personnes qui auront la gentillesse de m' apporter une réponse..(j' ai pour expérience le tour des annapurnas avant la construction de la route)
A ma connaissance pas de passages aériens sur le tour du Manaslu .Le Larkya est parfois un peu glissant ( fonction de la neige verglacée) car c'est un peu pentu une fois le col franchi mais sans plus.. J'espère que tu auras des réponses de personnes sujettes au vertige;Il existe en effet différents niveaux de vertige ;c'est variable suivant les personnes et quand on n'est pas affecté par le vertige on fait moins attention à certains passages qui sont susceptibles de causer problème.
A ma connaissance pas de passages aériens sur le tour du Manaslu .Le Larkya est parfois un peu glissant ( fonction de la neige verglacée) car c'est un peu pentu une fois le col franchi mais sans plus.. J'espère que tu auras des réponses de personnes sujettes au vertige;Il existe en effet différents niveaux de vertige ;c'est variable suivant les personnes et quand on n'est pas affecté par le vertige on fait moins attention à certains passages qui sont susceptibles de causer problème.
Bonjour
Je me permettrait d'en rajouter une couche sur l'enneigement. J'ai fait le tour du manaslu en novembre 2014 et nous avons croisé énormément de groupes qui faisait demi-tour à cause de cela. Quant aux groupes de trekker qui n'étaient pas équipés de crampons et qui passait le col, ils galéraient comme des fous car c'était vraiment très enneigé et bien gelé par endroits.
Pour passer ce genre de col, il est vraiment TRES 🙂 interessant que tu t'équipes de petits crampons de ce genre ci: https://kahtoola.com/product/microspikes/
Ce type de crampons s'adapte aussi bien aux chaussures tiges hautes que tiges basses est est d'une efficacité redoutable ! Tu peux en trouver à moins de 20 euros dans Thamel à Katmandou (en particulier dans les magasins "Sonam").
Bon trek, Samuel
Je me permettrait d'en rajouter une couche sur l'enneigement. J'ai fait le tour du manaslu en novembre 2014 et nous avons croisé énormément de groupes qui faisait demi-tour à cause de cela. Quant aux groupes de trekker qui n'étaient pas équipés de crampons et qui passait le col, ils galéraient comme des fous car c'était vraiment très enneigé et bien gelé par endroits.
Pour passer ce genre de col, il est vraiment TRES 🙂 interessant que tu t'équipes de petits crampons de ce genre ci: https://kahtoola.com/product/microspikes/
Ce type de crampons s'adapte aussi bien aux chaussures tiges hautes que tiges basses est est d'une efficacité redoutable ! Tu peux en trouver à moins de 20 euros dans Thamel à Katmandou (en particulier dans les magasins "Sonam").
Bon trek, Samuel
Merci djalma et sbelcker pour les dernières infos!si j envisage le tour du manaslu, oui je partirai avec des petits crampons (on m a offert le même style que ceux présentés, tout légers mais jamais utilises..), car l appréhension du vide se combine chez moi avec l appréhension de la pente sur neige, en descente, et la peur de glisser(mauvaises expériences passées)...sincèrement merci pour tous ces renseignements utiles et eclaires..
Pour passer ce genre de col, il est vraiment TRES 🙂 interessant que tu t'équipes de petits crampons de ce genre ci: https://kahtoola.com/product/microspikes/
Ce type de crampons s'adapte aussi bien aux chaussures tiges hautes que tiges basses est est d'une efficacité redoutable ! Tu peux en trouver à moins de 20 euros dans Thamel à Katmandou (en particulier dans les magasins "Sonam").
Salut, C'est vrai que ça peut être utile mais en cas d'enneigement il est impératif de partir très tôt le matin pour passer le col car dans le cas contraire ( si on parvient trop tard au col) on va le plus souvent rencontrer de la neige molle et s'y enfoncer parfois au dessus du genou et là les crampons ne sont alors d'aucune utilité! J'ai connu ces conditions dans le Khumbu ( Cho La et Renjo La en Février/mars) Les guêtres sont donc aussi parfois bien utiles et c'est léger à transporter! J'ai connu de très bonnes conditions en Novembre sur le Manaslu et j'ai eu de nombreux retours positifs durant cette période bien qu'on ne puisse affirmer que c'est ou que ce sera tjs le cas. En novembre les mauvaises conditions peuvent exister ( on l'a vu l'an dernier!) mais à mon avis c'est plutôt rare.
Ce type de crampons s'adapte aussi bien aux chaussures tiges hautes que tiges basses est est d'une efficacité redoutable ! Tu peux en trouver à moins de 20 euros dans Thamel à Katmandou (en particulier dans les magasins "Sonam").
Salut, C'est vrai que ça peut être utile mais en cas d'enneigement il est impératif de partir très tôt le matin pour passer le col car dans le cas contraire ( si on parvient trop tard au col) on va le plus souvent rencontrer de la neige molle et s'y enfoncer parfois au dessus du genou et là les crampons ne sont alors d'aucune utilité! J'ai connu ces conditions dans le Khumbu ( Cho La et Renjo La en Février/mars) Les guêtres sont donc aussi parfois bien utiles et c'est léger à transporter! J'ai connu de très bonnes conditions en Novembre sur le Manaslu et j'ai eu de nombreux retours positifs durant cette période bien qu'on ne puisse affirmer que c'est ou que ce sera tjs le cas. En novembre les mauvaises conditions peuvent exister ( on l'a vu l'an dernier!) mais à mon avis c'est plutôt rare.
S'il s'agit des pentes raides pas de soucis par contre il y a des ponts de singe à franchir et des ponts enfin des rondins et des chemins escarpés à passé comme sur la photo ci-dessus. Si tu veux des photos des ponts j'en ai. Bonnes vacances c'est magique !
soleda
Avec plaisir Soleda pour tes photos de rondins ponts et ponts de singe..si je pars ce sera a l automne..vraiment merci a tous pour votre partage!
Et voilà ! Tu as les ponts les plus impressionnants, la montée et la descente du col. Si tu veux d'autres informations pas de problème. Il y a quand même quelques années que nous y sommes allés.
soleda
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Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann










