Vietnam: aller à la rivière des parfums (au sud de Hanoï)?
by Gillesre
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Quelqu'un est-il allé à l'endroit suivant à 65 km au sud de Hanoi ? Il s'agit de la pagode des parfums (Chua Huong) située sur la montagne des Parfums (Hung Tich Son) et sur la rivière de la Queue d'hirondelle (Son Yen Vi). Il faut d'ailleurs naviguer sur 4 km pour y arriver. Il semble que le pèlerinage qui a lieu au cours des 2ème et 3ème mois lunaires est à ne pas manquer. Ya -t-il une date particulièrement intéressante pour y aller? Est-ce que ceux qui en ont fait l'expérience ont des conseils particuliers? Merci. Gilles.
Oui, vous avez raison, les grands pélerinages qui ont lieu cette année entre le 9 Février et le 14 (15ème au 20ème jour du premier mois lunaire) valent largement le pélerinage de Lourdes, côté culte et animation !
Quels consiels, sinon de se mêler à la foule, et d'être étonnés à la fois apr la ôté festif et le côté ferveur populaire de cette manifestation. Mais attention, il y a du monde sur les bateaux et sur le sentier qui monte à la grotte. Il faut de la patience et du souffle !
Mais çà vaut le coup !
Je suis tombe en plein jour de pelerinage sans le savoir. Jamais vu autant de barques de ma vie, et autant de monde 1) faire la queue pour les oeufs (c'est + rapide a pied, mais il y a 3000+ marches!!!!) 2) marcher en escargots 100m pour arriver en haut des marches descendant ds la grotte 3) Rentrer ds la grotte 4) Ressortir. 1h15 pour aller de la plateforme du haut des oeufs a la grotte, soit a peu pres 200m!!!!!! En fait, c'est une sacree experience; tout le monde se bouscule en rigolant, ca bavarde, ca boit et mange en marchant (enfin, disons plutot "rampant"); tres marrant mais faut pas etre presse par le temps - Compter la journee.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour,
A mon avis, absolument indispensable à voir pour nos yeux d'occidentaux!! même la description des pélerinages ne vous donnera qu'une infime idée de ce que vous découvrirez..
Pour la montée à la Pagode elle-même, je l'ai faite une fois "à marches" et l'autre fois avec les oeufs de Larsay, c'est à dire de petites nacelles rondes qui vous propulsent assez haut, mais pas encore à ladite pagode!! c'est vous qui voyez, mais à pied... faut de la détermination, du temps, du souffle!! précision : même pour accéder aux oeufs, ça monte déjà un moment sur des marches que j'ai connues luisantes de pluie...
Mais l'ambiance vaut le détour - déjà la balade sur la Yen River vaut le coup.. - quant à la montée elle-même, je vous livre le commentaire qui avait accompagné ma prise de camescope :"cà ressemble à l'Inde, mantras, encens, monde innombrable.. mais les vaches ne pourraient pas monter "😉😉😉😉
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
A mon avis, absolument indispensable à voir pour nos yeux d'occidentaux!! même la description des pélerinages ne vous donnera qu'une infime idée de ce que vous découvrirez..
Pour la montée à la Pagode elle-même, je l'ai faite une fois "à marches" et l'autre fois avec les oeufs de Larsay, c'est à dire de petites nacelles rondes qui vous propulsent assez haut, mais pas encore à ladite pagode!! c'est vous qui voyez, mais à pied... faut de la détermination, du temps, du souffle!! précision : même pour accéder aux oeufs, ça monte déjà un moment sur des marches que j'ai connues luisantes de pluie...
Mais l'ambiance vaut le détour - déjà la balade sur la Yen River vaut le coup.. - quant à la montée elle-même, je vous livre le commentaire qui avait accompagné ma prise de camescope :"cà ressemble à l'Inde, mantras, encens, monde innombrable.. mais les vaches ne pourraient pas monter "😉😉😉😉
Cordialement - Kimtwo -
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bonjour Gilles, j'y suis allé il y a quelques années. Les dates les plus importantes sont en général, les jours de pleine lune selon le calendrier lunaire. Voici une citation du guide du routard:
Pèlerinage bouddhiste célébré dans un magnifique paysage montagneux. Huong Son, à 70 km au sud de Hanoi, attire Vietnamiens et touristes étrangers. Il s’agit d’une des plus longues fêtes vietnamiennes. Elle s’étale en effet du 6e jour du 1er mois lunaire au 15e jour du 3e mois lunaire. La manifestation culmine entre le 15e et le 20e jour du premier mois. Dates sous réserves.
Donc, cette année, l'année lunaire débutant le 26 janvier 2009, le pèlerinage débutera autour du 31 janvier mais la fête culminera entre le 9 février et 14 février. Cela implique des foules de gens donc il faut aimer les contacts ! La rivière Yen devient comme une autoroute fluviale mais c'est le temps de pratiquer votre vietnamien ! Prévoir des souliers qui ne dérapent pas facilement car les marches sculptées dans la pierre qui mènent vers la pagode Huong Thich sont abruptes et sont humides à ces temps-çi de l'année ( en février, le nord du Vietnam est couvert d'une brume appellée crachin et il dure au moins 1 mois). Mais ça vaut le déplacement !
Pèlerinage bouddhiste célébré dans un magnifique paysage montagneux. Huong Son, à 70 km au sud de Hanoi, attire Vietnamiens et touristes étrangers. Il s’agit d’une des plus longues fêtes vietnamiennes. Elle s’étale en effet du 6e jour du 1er mois lunaire au 15e jour du 3e mois lunaire. La manifestation culmine entre le 15e et le 20e jour du premier mois. Dates sous réserves.
Donc, cette année, l'année lunaire débutant le 26 janvier 2009, le pèlerinage débutera autour du 31 janvier mais la fête culminera entre le 9 février et 14 février. Cela implique des foules de gens donc il faut aimer les contacts ! La rivière Yen devient comme une autoroute fluviale mais c'est le temps de pratiquer votre vietnamien ! Prévoir des souliers qui ne dérapent pas facilement car les marches sculptées dans la pierre qui mènent vers la pagode Huong Thich sont abruptes et sont humides à ces temps-çi de l'année ( en février, le nord du Vietnam est couvert d'une brume appellée crachin et il dure au moins 1 mois). Mais ça vaut le déplacement !
Dan
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Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !