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Vietnam: fête des mille ans de "Thang Long Hanoi"
by Papillon07
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Bonjour à Tous
En 2010 le ViêtNam fêtera les 1000 ans de " Thang Long Hanoi " , quelqu'un pourrait-il m'expliquer l'istorique de cet évènement ?
Par avance MERCI
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Bonjour,
Pour faire simple il s'agit du millénaire de l'existence de la ville de Ha Noi.
Pour faire simple il s'agit du millénaire de l'existence de la ville de Ha Noi.
expliquer l'istorique de cet évènement ?
Cela reviendrait à étudier l'histoire du Viêtnam de 1010 à 1835🙂
En bref, en 1010, la capitale du Viêtnam qui était à Hoa Lu a été déplacée à Thanh Long.Le nom d'Hanoi n'a été utilisé que depuis 1935!
Cela reviendrait à étudier l'histoire du Viêtnam de 1010 à 1835🙂
En bref, en 1010, la capitale du Viêtnam qui était à Hoa Lu a été déplacée à Thanh Long.Le nom d'Hanoi n'a été utilisé que depuis 1935!
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
En 1010, le roi Ly Cong Uan montait sur le trône, et Il a transféré sa cour à Ha noi { le vieux thang lang}. thang lang est le dragon prenant son essor. quand il a transféré sa cour. il a vu le dragon s'envoler dans le ciel. Alors il a appelé cette région le dragon prenant son essor.
Alors , Maitenant on change son nom. On a applé thang long Ha noi car ha noi est une capital qui est entouré par deux grandes fleuves.
j'espère que mes idés vous aidera à comprendre un peu l'histoire du vietnam.
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Un passé millénaire.
Sous la domination chinoise, vers le milieu du Ve siècle après JC, il y avait un petit bourg appelé Tông Binh sur l'emplacement de l'actuelle Ha Noi. En 545, lors d'un soulèvement contre l'occupation chinoise, Ly Bôn y fit bâtir une citadelle en bois pour faire face à l'ennemi. Durant cette période, il fit également construire la première pagode qu'il nomma Kai Quôc' (fondation de la patrie). Au XVIIe siècle, cette pagode fut transférée sur l'île du Poisson d'Or sur le lac de l'Ouest et fut rebaptisée Trân' Quôc' (défense de la patrie). Après une nouvelle occupation chinoise, Tông Binh fut choisi comme capitale administrative du Giao Chi. Les chinois bâtirent une citadelle en dur dont la périphérie avoisinait les 6 km et la nommèrent La Thanh. Au IXe siècle la citadelle fut agrandie et rebaptisée Dai La.
La dynastie éphémère des Lé antérieurs (980-1009) était établie à Hoa Lu (près de l'actuelle Ninh Binhà 120 km au Sud de Ha Noi). Le dernier roi, décadent, mourut en 1009 sans successeur en âge de régner. La cour porta au pouvoir le haut dignitaire Ly Cong Uan qui fonda la longue et brillante dynastie des Ly (1010-1225) et régna sous le nom de Ly Thai To. En 1010 Ly Thai To transféra la capitale de Hoa Lu à Dai La. D'après la légende, quand le bateau du roi Ly Thai' Tô s'approcha de la citadelle, il aurait vu un dragon qui s'envolait du lieu. Il baptisa alors sa nouvelle capitale Thang Long, ''le dragon prenant son essor''.
Par la suite Thang Long connut encore plusieurs appellations différentes. Vers la fin du XIVe siècle, face à une nouvelle invasion chinoise, la dynastie des usurpateurs Hô voulu fonder une autre capitale dans la province de Thanh Hoa', dont le terrain accidenté offrait moins de prise aux envahisseurs. Le pays eut pour un certain temps deux capitales. Thang Long fut alors appelé Dông Dô(capitale de l'Est), par opposition à la nouvelle capitale Tây Dô ( capitale de l'Ouest). Malgré la brièveté de la dynastie des Hô, le nom de Dông Dô coexista longtemps avec celui de Thang Long. Au cours des siècles suivants, on l'appelait également Dông Kinh, car les mots Dô et Kinh signifient aussi capitale. Plus tard aux XVIIe et XVIIIe siècle, les commerçants européens prononçaient le mot Dông Kinh "Tunquin ou Tonquin", cette appellation servit alors à désigner tout le nord du Vietnam pendant la période coloniale.
Thang Long connut de multiples destructions dues aux incendies et aux saccages perpertrés par les envahisseurs. Au XIIIe siècle la ville fut saccagée à trois reprise par les Yuan (Mongols), au XIVe siècle, elle fut pillée deux fois par les Cham de Che Bong Nga puis occupée par les troupes des Minh . Enfin, au XVIIIe siècle, elle fut prise par les Qing. Thang Long resta capitale jusqu'à ce que Gia Long, fondateur de la dynastie des Nguyen , décidât, en 1802, d'établir sa capitale impériale à Hué. Malgré cela, Gia Long entreprit de restaurer et d'embellir la ville de Thang Long en particulier la citadelle et les palais grandement endommagés lors de la révolte des Tay Son. En 1831, par un décret royal l'empereur Minh Mang ordonna de changer le nom de Thang Long en Ha Nôi (la ville au bord des cours d'eau), car le mot Long (dragon) symbole de la royauté n'était plus compatible avec une simple ville de province. Tu Duc (1829-1883), trouva que l'ancienne capitale brillait par trop d'arrogance, il fit démolir une partie des palais des Lê et déménagea à Huê' leur précieux mobilier ainsi que les boiseries pour mieux embellir sa cité. Pendant la colonisation française, la ville fut transformée. La citadelle à la Vauban fut rasée pour faire place à des constructions administratives françaises, de même, au sud du lac Hoan Kiêm', des quartiers furent rasés pour laisser place à de grandes avenues bordées de villas au style rapellant celui des stations balnéaires françaises de la fin du siècle dernier. Lors des guerres contre les Français et les Américains, Hanoi souffrit beaucoup des bombardements. Malgré tout, le centre de la ville fut préservé.
source: http://gilkergu.club.fr/hanoi/histoire/hist_hanoi.htm
Thang Long connut de multiples destructions dues aux incendies et aux saccages perpertrés par les envahisseurs. Au XIIIe siècle la ville fut saccagée à trois reprise par les Yuan (Mongols), au XIVe siècle, elle fut pillée deux fois par les Cham de Che Bong Nga puis occupée par les troupes des Minh . Enfin, au XVIIIe siècle, elle fut prise par les Qing. Thang Long resta capitale jusqu'à ce que Gia Long, fondateur de la dynastie des Nguyen , décidât, en 1802, d'établir sa capitale impériale à Hué. Malgré cela, Gia Long entreprit de restaurer et d'embellir la ville de Thang Long en particulier la citadelle et les palais grandement endommagés lors de la révolte des Tay Son. En 1831, par un décret royal l'empereur Minh Mang ordonna de changer le nom de Thang Long en Ha Nôi (la ville au bord des cours d'eau), car le mot Long (dragon) symbole de la royauté n'était plus compatible avec une simple ville de province. Tu Duc (1829-1883), trouva que l'ancienne capitale brillait par trop d'arrogance, il fit démolir une partie des palais des Lê et déménagea à Huê' leur précieux mobilier ainsi que les boiseries pour mieux embellir sa cité. Pendant la colonisation française, la ville fut transformée. La citadelle à la Vauban fut rasée pour faire place à des constructions administratives françaises, de même, au sud du lac Hoan Kiêm', des quartiers furent rasés pour laisser place à de grandes avenues bordées de villas au style rapellant celui des stations balnéaires françaises de la fin du siècle dernier. Lors des guerres contre les Français et les Américains, Hanoi souffrit beaucoup des bombardements. Malgré tout, le centre de la ville fut préservé.
source: http://gilkergu.club.fr/hanoi/histoire/hist_hanoi.htm
Bravo, bravo et merci Nguyenthuy pour ce résumé de l'histoire de ton pays...
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Dans le cadre des célébrations de la fête des mille ans de "Thang Long Hanoï" et de l' année du tourisme 2010 , j' ai lu qu' il y aurait différents festivals organisés d' Octobre 2009 à Octobre 2010 , entre autres des Floralies à Da Lat en Janvier et un festival culinaire dont je ne connais ni les dates et lieux d ' organisation.
Quelqu' un aurait il des infos sur l' ensemble du programme des festivités et sur celles ci dessus en particulier ?
Merci d' avance
Merci d' avance
Bonjour thierro,
Quelques petites recherches...................😉
Si j'ai bien lu, la fête des fleurs à Dalat serait du 1er au 4 Janvier.
http://www.danviettravel.com/english/vietnam-travel-news/Dalat_Flower_Festival_to_mark_Thang_LongHanoi%E2%80%99s_1000th_anniversary-158.travel
http://www.vietnamtourism.com/f_pages/news/index.asp?loai=2&uid=10035
http://lecourrier.vnagency.com.vn/default.asp?page=newsdetail&newsid=54696
Quelques petites recherches...................😉
Si j'ai bien lu, la fête des fleurs à Dalat serait du 1er au 4 Janvier.
http://www.danviettravel.com/english/vietnam-travel-news/Dalat_Flower_Festival_to_mark_Thang_LongHanoi%E2%80%99s_1000th_anniversary-158.travel
http://www.vietnamtourism.com/f_pages/news/index.asp?loai=2&uid=10035
http://lecourrier.vnagency.com.vn/default.asp?page=newsdetail&newsid=54696
Je corrige tout de meme quelque chose: Hanoi n'a jamais ete bombarde par les francais, et pour une bonne raison: la nombreuse population francaise de Hanoi y est reste pendant la 2 GM, sous le regime de Vichy, et n'a quitte la ville qu'en 1954, apres les accords de Geneve, et jamais le Vietminh ne l'a controlee, les Chinois de Tchang kai Check s'y etant installe sur demande des americains (toujours aussi futes !) et l'armee francaise de Leclerc les ayant remplaces en 46. Si on veut parler de destructions francaises, par contre, Haiphong, oui, en 1946, pour en sortir le Vietminh
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Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!






