Retour de Halong et question sur Tam Coc
by Prisonbreak69
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour
je reviens de halong ou j ai fait le tour en individuel
je ne comprends pas d ailleurs pourkoi tout le monde passe par les agences de hanoi c est tellement facile et moins cher en indepedendant
mais bon la n est pas la question
venant d halong et connaissant guilin je me demandais si aller a tam coc valait le coup notamment avec les rameuses qui vous font de la vente forcee..
dans le bateau du tour a halong c est vrai que la fille du bateau a essaye de vendre ses colliers pendant 30mn mais au moins on pouvait refuser
or apparemment a tam coc ce n est pas le cas?
que se passe t il si on refuse toute transaction?
autre question tam coc et perfume pagoda c est le meme paysage?
bonjour
Tam coc et La pagode de parfum n'ont pas lea memes paysages. Chaque endroit a chaque charme. a Tam coc, vous visitez les 3 grottes en sampan.mais a tam coc il vaut mieux le visiter en mars ou avril car ce moment la, vous pourrez contempler les rizieres de verdure. et a la pagode de parfum, vous avez l'impression d'etre dans le lieux sacre du bouddhisme....
c'est super!
bon voyage!
Salut
je ne comprends pas d ailleurs pourkoi tout le monde passe par les agences de hanoi c est tellement facile et moins cher en indepedendant
Tout simplement parce que le premier tour est à $25 et cela t'évite de perdre ton temps dans des bus public ou aller à la gare ... marchander après arrivé une fois sur place ... aller à droite à gauche avec ses sacs sur le dos .... avec une agence tu montes dans le bus devant ton hotel et tu ouvres les yeux ! ... bref pour le prix c'est ridicule de vouloir organiser cela soit même ...
venant d halong et connaissant guilin je me demandais si aller a tam coc valait le coup notamment avec les rameuses qui vous font de la vente forcee.. [...]or apparemment a tam coc ce n est pas le cas? que se passe t il si on refuse toute transaction?
rien à craindre tu n'es pas obligé d'acheter un non gentil avec le sourire et catégorique règle la question .... Vas y en fin d'après midi ... la lumière est plus agréable ... n'oublie pas de te balader dans les rizières environnantes !
autre question tam coc et perfume pagoda c est le meme paysage?
Le début un peu quand on prend le bateau pour aller jusqu'au pied du mont ... après c'est différent ... Tu prends un téléphérique ou tu y vas à pied ... arrivé la haut ca ressemble un peu au grotte en Thailande du coté de Petchaburi ... C'est un endroit paisible et très agréable ... je te conseil si tu aimes l'Asie !
Va voir mon site de photo pour te faire une idée => Vietnam => Hanoi
je ne comprends pas d ailleurs pourkoi tout le monde passe par les agences de hanoi c est tellement facile et moins cher en indepedendant
Tout simplement parce que le premier tour est à $25 et cela t'évite de perdre ton temps dans des bus public ou aller à la gare ... marchander après arrivé une fois sur place ... aller à droite à gauche avec ses sacs sur le dos .... avec une agence tu montes dans le bus devant ton hotel et tu ouvres les yeux ! ... bref pour le prix c'est ridicule de vouloir organiser cela soit même ...
venant d halong et connaissant guilin je me demandais si aller a tam coc valait le coup notamment avec les rameuses qui vous font de la vente forcee.. [...]or apparemment a tam coc ce n est pas le cas? que se passe t il si on refuse toute transaction?
rien à craindre tu n'es pas obligé d'acheter un non gentil avec le sourire et catégorique règle la question .... Vas y en fin d'après midi ... la lumière est plus agréable ... n'oublie pas de te balader dans les rizières environnantes !
autre question tam coc et perfume pagoda c est le meme paysage?
Le début un peu quand on prend le bateau pour aller jusqu'au pied du mont ... après c'est différent ... Tu prends un téléphérique ou tu y vas à pied ... arrivé la haut ca ressemble un peu au grotte en Thailande du coté de Petchaburi ... C'est un endroit paisible et très agréable ... je te conseil si tu aimes l'Asie !
Va voir mon site de photo pour te faire une idée => Vietnam => Hanoi
Mon site de photos :
http://voyage-photo.tk/
TAM COC et GUILIN
Pour avoir séjourné dans les 2 sites, je n'ai aucun regret de m'être promené aussi à Tam Coc . Certes les paysages se ressemblent, mais Tam Coc est plus "intime", moins "grandiose" Et il n'y a pas les foules de touristes chinois.
Concernant l'insistance des vendeuses, nous n'avons pas eu à le déplorer car nous avion UN rameur. Et seul dans sa barque. Nous étions partis vers 8 h le matin. Lumière et chaleur agréable. Il nous a suffit de dire gentiment non. Il n'a pas vraiment insisté.
Il est aussi possible d'éviter l'embarcadère "officiel". Il y a 2 ou 3 autres possibilités de départ, notamment sur la route de la pagode de BICH DONG, mais jue n'ai pas testé.
LARSAY peut il tester lors de son prochain séjour chez la belle LOAN ?
Devinette : qu'est ce que la photo représente ?
Pour avoir séjourné dans les 2 sites, je n'ai aucun regret de m'être promené aussi à Tam Coc . Certes les paysages se ressemblent, mais Tam Coc est plus "intime", moins "grandiose" Et il n'y a pas les foules de touristes chinois.
Concernant l'insistance des vendeuses, nous n'avons pas eu à le déplorer car nous avion UN rameur. Et seul dans sa barque. Nous étions partis vers 8 h le matin. Lumière et chaleur agréable. Il nous a suffit de dire gentiment non. Il n'a pas vraiment insisté.
Il est aussi possible d'éviter l'embarcadère "officiel". Il y a 2 ou 3 autres possibilités de départ, notamment sur la route de la pagode de BICH DONG, mais jue n'ai pas testé.
LARSAY peut il tester lors de son prochain séjour chez la belle LOAN ?
Devinette : qu'est ce que la photo représente ?
Doc.Bedel
Si J'avais à choisir entre Halong et Tam Coc... Tam Coc haut la main.... J'éviterais Halong.
Jouir de la vie... parce que c'est la vie...
que se passe t il si on refuse toute transaction?
Trois coups de couteau dans le ventre et on te jette a l'eau.
Serieusement, que veux-tu qu'il se passe ???? On n'est pas a Chicago.
Trois coups de couteau dans le ventre et on te jette a l'eau.
Serieusement, que veux-tu qu'il se passe ???? On n'est pas a Chicago.
Pour les jonques, l interet de passer par certaines agences c est que les prix sont negocies et moins cher que sur place.
Pour Tam coc si tu veux eviter le cote touristique va sur la reserve naturelle de Van Long
Trois coups de couteau dans le ventre et on te jette a l'eau.
Serieusement, que veux-tu qu'il se passe ???? On n'est pas a Chicago.
Hello Pat,
Ou alors, elle saborde la barque ? 🏴☠️ 🤪
Pierre.
Serieusement, que veux-tu qu'il se passe ???? On n'est pas a Chicago.
Hello Pat,
Ou alors, elle saborde la barque ? 🏴☠️ 🤪
Pierre.
Association EEFF
https://picasaweb.google.com/Pierrehuyen
Ou alors, elle saborde la barque ? 🏴☠️ 🤪
Ben non, c'est son gagne-pain. A l'eau, c'est plus facile et ca nourrit les poissons pour la peche du mari.
Ben non, c'est son gagne-pain. A l'eau, c'est plus facile et ca nourrit les poissons pour la peche du mari.
Des oeufs d'escargots 😛
A Tam Coc il faut décliner l'offre soi disante mirobolante d'une extension de la promenade en bateau vers des lieux où aucun touriste ne va. Cela m'en a coûté 100.000 Dongs pour faire à peine 500 m sans intérêt avec malgré tout au retour une demande de pourboire. 😕
Guilin/Yangshuo et plein d'autres endroits dans le Guangxi, Along, Tam Coc, Vang Vieng (Laos), Phang Nga (Thailand), Vinales (Cuba), etc (si quelqu'un connait des "etc" - paysages karstiques - de par le monde ça m'intéresse 😉 ) il faut tous les voir sinon ça fait longtemps que je me serais arrêter de voyager au titre que j'ai fait un jour un beau voyage. Si vous voyez ce que je veux dire.
Tam Coc : probablement le point fort de mon voyage au Vietnam du Nord
A Tam Coc il faut décliner l'offre soi disante mirobolante d'une extension de la promenade en bateau vers des lieux où aucun touriste ne va. Cela m'en a coûté 100.000 Dongs pour faire à peine 500 m sans intérêt avec malgré tout au retour une demande de pourboire. 😕
Guilin/Yangshuo et plein d'autres endroits dans le Guangxi, Along, Tam Coc, Vang Vieng (Laos), Phang Nga (Thailand), Vinales (Cuba), etc (si quelqu'un connait des "etc" - paysages karstiques - de par le monde ça m'intéresse 😉 ) il faut tous les voir sinon ça fait longtemps que je me serais arrêter de voyager au titre que j'ai fait un jour un beau voyage. Si vous voyez ce que je veux dire.
Tam Coc : probablement le point fort de mon voyage au Vietnam du Nord
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
salut
des oeufs d escargots (chinois), un plaie parait il.
des oeufs d escargots (chinois), un plaie parait il.
http://lessampaniersduvietnam.org/
il reste toujours un peu de parfum à la main qui donne des roses
confucius
Salut
Tout simplement parce que le premier tour est à $25 et cela t'évite de perdre ton temps dans des bus public ou aller à la gare ... marchander après arrivé une fois sur place ... aller à droite à gauche avec ses sacs sur le dos .... avec une agence tu montes dans le bus devant ton hotel et tu ouvres les yeux ! ... bref pour le prix c'est ridicule de vouloir organiser cela soit même ...
pa d accord c est moitie moins cher en indepedendant en l occurence ca revient a 12$ si on fait l aller retour dans la journee et on peut meme avoir la chance comme j ai eu de se retrouver sur un tour luxe pour le meme prix qu un tour standard...
en l occurence je ne perd pa mon temps car je n attends pas les retardataires qui sont inevitables dans chaque troupeau de touristes je vais a mon rythme et ou j ai envie d aller...😉
Tout simplement parce que le premier tour est à $25 et cela t'évite de perdre ton temps dans des bus public ou aller à la gare ... marchander après arrivé une fois sur place ... aller à droite à gauche avec ses sacs sur le dos .... avec une agence tu montes dans le bus devant ton hotel et tu ouvres les yeux ! ... bref pour le prix c'est ridicule de vouloir organiser cela soit même ...
pa d accord c est moitie moins cher en indepedendant en l occurence ca revient a 12$ si on fait l aller retour dans la journee et on peut meme avoir la chance comme j ai eu de se retrouver sur un tour luxe pour le meme prix qu un tour standard...
en l occurence je ne perd pa mon temps car je n attends pas les retardataires qui sont inevitables dans chaque troupeau de touristes je vais a mon rythme et ou j ai envie d aller...😉
pa d accord c est moitie moins cher en indepedendant en l occurence ca revient a 12$ si on fait l aller retour dans la journee et on peut meme avoir la chance comme j ai eu de se retrouver sur un tour luxe pour le meme prix qu un tour standard...
Je sens quelque chose de louche🙂
A 12$, le batelier a oublié d'acheter le ticket de visite de la baie d'Halong?
Je sens quelque chose de louche🙂
A 12$, le batelier a oublié d'acheter le ticket de visite de la baie d'Halong?
http://www.maison-chance.org/
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pa d accord c est moitie moins cher en indepedendant en l occurence ca revient a 12$ si on fait l aller retour dans la journee et on peut meme avoir la chance comme j ai eu de se retrouver sur un tour luxe pour le meme prix qu un tour standard...
Je sens quelque chose de louche🙂
A 12$, le batelier a oublié d'acheter le ticket de visite de la baie d'Halong?
ahahha 60000d le bus pour halong aller simple 50000d le tour +40000d pour les grottes upgrade dans un bateau 2etoiles svp car plus de places dans un bateau standard sous reserve que je reste discret....pas de problemes!!!!
Je sens quelque chose de louche🙂
A 12$, le batelier a oublié d'acheter le ticket de visite de la baie d'Halong?
ahahha 60000d le bus pour halong aller simple 50000d le tour +40000d pour les grottes upgrade dans un bateau 2etoiles svp car plus de places dans un bateau standard sous reserve que je reste discret....pas de problemes!!!!
sous reserve que je reste discret....pas de problemes!!!!
C'est ce que je disais, quelque chose de louche🙂
Vous n'avez pas payé le ticket d'entrée au site, vous avez juste payé l'entrée de la grotte.
Les 50 000 dông pour le tour en clandestin, c'est dans la poche du batelier. L'UNESCO qui gère le site, va être content de vous!
C'est ce que je disais, quelque chose de louche🙂
Vous n'avez pas payé le ticket d'entrée au site, vous avez juste payé l'entrée de la grotte.
Les 50 000 dông pour le tour en clandestin, c'est dans la poche du batelier. L'UNESCO qui gère le site, va être content de vous!
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Ben justement, j'en reviens, de chez la belle Loan 🙂😉😄😏 Les barques de Bich Dong ne vont pas sur la riviere aux 3 grottes, et la ballade est moins interessante.
Je suis FATIGUE de cette histoire de vente forcee; j'en ai marre de ces guides Lonely Planet et Co ! A part ramer (TRES dur et mal paye), c'est leur seule gagne-pain, donc il est absolument NORMAL, comme tu le sais (je reponds a note ami hesitant), qu'elles essaient de vendre ce qu'elles font le sois apres avoir rame dur pendant la journee. Un "non MERCI" avce un sourire (PLUS un pourboire au retour, elles le meritent !) et c'est fini.
Je suis FATIGUE de cette histoire de vente forcee; j'en ai marre de ces guides Lonely Planet et Co ! A part ramer (TRES dur et mal paye), c'est leur seule gagne-pain, donc il est absolument NORMAL, comme tu le sais (je reponds a note ami hesitant), qu'elles essaient de vendre ce qu'elles font le sois apres avoir rame dur pendant la journee. Un "non MERCI" avce un sourire (PLUS un pourboire au retour, elles le meritent !) et c'est fini.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour,
On retrouve les mêmes paysages sur Van Long qu'à Tam Coc avec moins de touristes ou il y a qd même des différences ?
Tu conseilles une agence sur Hanoi ?
merci
On retrouve les mêmes paysages sur Van Long qu'à Tam Coc avec moins de touristes ou il y a qd même des différences ?
Tu conseilles une agence sur Hanoi ?
merci
On retrouve les mêmes paysages sur Van Long qu'à Tam Coc avec moins de touristes ou il y a qd même des différences ?
Il n'y a que les puristes qui voient la différence🙂.
- Van Long - Tam Cóc - Tràng An - Khung Náng - et à la limite Kênh Ga
Mon choix se porte sur Khung Náng, histoire d'être original!
Il n'y a que les puristes qui voient la différence🙂.
- Van Long - Tam Cóc - Tràng An - Khung Náng - et à la limite Kênh Ga
Mon choix se porte sur Khung Náng, histoire d'être original!
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
qu'en est il vraiment et que conseillerez vous au mois de Juillet (vers le 15)
En juillet, Tam Cóc (trois grottes) est submergée par les eaux, et on ne peut accéder qu'à la première grotte.
Si Trang An est victime de succès à cause du Guide du Routard, il reste Thung Nang que personne ne connait encore🙂
En juillet, Tam Cóc (trois grottes) est submergée par les eaux, et on ne peut accéder qu'à la première grotte.
Si Trang An est victime de succès à cause du Guide du Routard, il reste Thung Nang que personne ne connait encore🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Je reviens de 3 semaines au Vietnam et je dois reconnaitre que le pire que j'ai eu à supporter, ce sont les rameuses de tam Coc... Infectes! je crois que si j'avais été assis à coté d'elle, je la foutais à l'eau😉! Ce que j'en retiens, mettez vous (l'homme!) à coté de la rameuse/vendeuse et soyez ferme sans mme leur laissez croire que ses broderies vous intérressent! Autre truc, prenez avec vous 2 petites bouteilles d'eau: 1 pour les rameuses et une pour vous. Et au terminus quand la vendeuse vous dira que les rameuses ont soif, sortez votre bouteille de flotte et n'achetez pas non plus à ces ambulants flottants qui vendent leur cam plus chers qu'au Mont St Michel en été...
La ballade en elle-même est pas mal si ça n'était pas pourri par ce commerce outrancier qui tient plus à de la mendicité!
PS: si vous n'avez pas le temps de faire la Montagne de Marbre, rien de perdu! y a rien à voir d'interressant à part des vendeurs de souvenirs et la vue sur l'immense chantier de la côte! un sacage organisé du littoral! Triste à voir!
Enjoy!
prenez avec vous 2 petites bouteilles d'eau: 1 pour les rameuses et une pour vous.
Des bouteilles d'Evian amenées de France ou puisées dans la rivière?🙂
n'achetez pas non plus à ces ambulants flottants qui vendent leur cam plus chers qu'au Mont St Michel en été...
Oh c'est moins cher que dans les TGV!
La ballade en elle-même est pas mal si ça n'était pas pourri par ce commerce outrancier qui tient plus à de la mendicité!
Seule solution, le ticket devrait être autour de 10 dollars comme dans d'autres pays et la somme sera partagée équitablement entre les rameuses et le service d'aménagement du site. Non mais? l'esclavage est aboli ailleurs. Combien doit-on payer une personne qui rame 2 heures sous le soleil?
PS: si vous n'avez pas le temps de faire la Montagne de Marbre, rien de perdu! y a rien à voir d'interressant à part des vendeurs de souvenirs
Vous avez manqué la visite des pagodes à moins que vous n'avez pas de jambe pour monter les marches?
Des bouteilles d'Evian amenées de France ou puisées dans la rivière?🙂
n'achetez pas non plus à ces ambulants flottants qui vendent leur cam plus chers qu'au Mont St Michel en été...
Oh c'est moins cher que dans les TGV!
La ballade en elle-même est pas mal si ça n'était pas pourri par ce commerce outrancier qui tient plus à de la mendicité!
Seule solution, le ticket devrait être autour de 10 dollars comme dans d'autres pays et la somme sera partagée équitablement entre les rameuses et le service d'aménagement du site. Non mais? l'esclavage est aboli ailleurs. Combien doit-on payer une personne qui rame 2 heures sous le soleil?
PS: si vous n'avez pas le temps de faire la Montagne de Marbre, rien de perdu! y a rien à voir d'interressant à part des vendeurs de souvenirs
Vous avez manqué la visite des pagodes à moins que vous n'avez pas de jambe pour monter les marches?
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
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- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
