Visiter le Sud tunisien depuis Tataouine?
by Alex64100
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je pars en novembre 2 semaines et je compte me baser à Tataouine pour circuler et visiter le sud. J'envisage mon séjour au Sangho. Qui connait et quelles sont vos impressions. J'ai déjà une petite idée de ce que je veux voir, mais auriez vous des suggestions à me faire. Je précie que j'aurais une voiture.
Merci de vos conseils et appréciations.
Alex
salut ALEX64100
tout dépend de ce que vous recherchez , lhistoire , la prehistoire la nature , l'aventure ........... une chose est sure , de tataouine vous pouvez découvrir , vers l'ouest , les montagnes du dhaher avec la multitude de ksours , de forteresses et autres ouvrages d'origines berberes ou romaines et jusqu'au desert de sable , le sud et le sud-est avec ses etendues de desert de pierre de villages abondonnees et autres curiositees , le littoral a l'est de ras jedir jusqua gabes , et jusqua chott el-jerid vers le nord .
sachez que ceci nest qu'un leger apercu de ce que recele la zone .
le "sangho" est le seul 4**** de la region , etant moi meme de la bas , je n'y ai jamais sejourne , j'y passe occasionellement pour prendre un cafe au bord de la piscine , c'est propre , agreable , j'ai toujour ete bien servi , c'est tout ce que je peut vous dire.
amicalement lotfi
tout dépend de ce que vous recherchez , lhistoire , la prehistoire la nature , l'aventure ........... une chose est sure , de tataouine vous pouvez découvrir , vers l'ouest , les montagnes du dhaher avec la multitude de ksours , de forteresses et autres ouvrages d'origines berberes ou romaines et jusqu'au desert de sable , le sud et le sud-est avec ses etendues de desert de pierre de villages abondonnees et autres curiositees , le littoral a l'est de ras jedir jusqua gabes , et jusqua chott el-jerid vers le nord .
sachez que ceci nest qu'un leger apercu de ce que recele la zone .
le "sangho" est le seul 4**** de la region , etant moi meme de la bas , je n'y ai jamais sejourne , j'y passe occasionellement pour prendre un cafe au bord de la piscine , c'est propre , agreable , j'ai toujour ete bien servi , c'est tout ce que je peut vous dire.
amicalement lotfi
lotfi
Bonjour,
J'ai dîné au Sangho et c'est très bien. La piscine est agréable. C'est un bel hôtel mais il est bondé d'européen. Personnellement je préfère les hôtels avec plus de gens de la place. Si vous voulez plus de tranquillité il y a le Mabrouk à côté. Très bien aussi mais sans piscine et le resto était fermé.
Bon voyage!
J'ai dîné au Sangho et c'est très bien. La piscine est agréable. C'est un bel hôtel mais il est bondé d'européen. Personnellement je préfère les hôtels avec plus de gens de la place. Si vous voulez plus de tranquillité il y a le Mabrouk à côté. Très bien aussi mais sans piscine et le resto était fermé.
Bon voyage!
Si Tataouine n'est pas terrible le Sangho est un bel hôtel un peu à l'écart, beau jardin et
chambres disséminées autour, personnel sympa, piscine agréable, on y mange plutôt bien, mais en Novembre ce sera calme, avantage il fera moins chaud.....
On te proposera plein d'excursions, mais avec un véhicule tu peux faire beaucoup de choses !
Le circuit des Ksours, Ksar Ouled Soltane à 1km de l'hôtel...Gomrassem, Ksar Haddada, Ksar Hallouf...etc....Les petits villages Douiret, Chenini, Guermessa....
Ensuite , Medenine, Toujane, Matmata et les maisons troglodyte....
Et aussi Ben Guerdane et remontée vers Zarzis....
Tu peux aller aussi à Ksar Ghilane la route est goudronnée par Matmata....
Et n'oublies pas d'acheter des cornes de gazelles à la patisserie du Sud à Tataouine ou à Gomrassem !!
Bonnes vacances 😉
Bonnes vacances 😉
Un voyage de 1000 lieues commence toujours par un pas !
(proverbe chinois)
Personnellement je préfère les hôtels avec plus de gens de la place.
Oui, mais si ce sont des "tunisiens louches", ça va être la galère pour Alex!........
Oui, mais si ce sont des "tunisiens louches", ça va être la galère pour Alex!........
Monique
www.jeancamillelouit.blogspot.com
Hé!Hé! Mort de rire.....😉
Un voyage de 1000 lieues commence toujours par un pas !
(proverbe chinois)
Eh oui, c'est tout à fait ça car il ne faut jamais généraliser, c'est tout. Moi, je déteste Kairouan pour y avoir eu aussi des déboires avec des locaux, mais je dis que Kairouan est une belle ville et qu'il faut la visiter!.....Sans rancune.
Tout ça, n'éclairera pas beaucoup Alex pour son séjour. Je peux juste lui dire que je connais aussi l'hotel Shango pour y avoir séjourné il y a quelques années, j'en garde un très bon souvenir, mais je n'y serais pas restée 15 jours.
Monique
www.jeancamillelouit.blogspot.com
ce un très bien plan pour une vacances de 2 semaines. en plus le climat en novembre est magnifique. et pour l'hôtel ce bon. et je proposer de profite l'occasion pour visiter tout la sud tunisien car les distance enter les villes est a l'ordre de quelque 10enne kilomètre
merci pour visiter la belle TUNISIE
Gladiator12
merci pour visite la Tunisie
informaticien de métier ........ mais cavalier par passion
@@ très important http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2586516;search_page=1
Merci à tous de vos réponses, c'est sympa.
Pour moi le sangho sera le point central de mon séjour car j'envisage de visiter à fond la région et de prendre tout mon temps pour voir mais aussi pour échanger avec les locaux. Je pense d'abord en restant sur place visiter : Ksar Ouled Soltane - Ksar Ezzarah (mieux que Soltane parait-il), Ksar Ouled Dabbd, Chenini, Douiret, Guermessa, Ksar Hadada, Ghomrassen etc. Puis élargir avec Medenine, Matmata, Toujane, Tamerzet, en passant un nuit sur ce secteur. Je pense en effet aller jeter un oeil du le marché libyen du dimanche matin à Ben Guerdane, en rentrant par Zarzis. Pour Ksar Guilane, je pensais y partir en excursion depuis Tataouine, l'aller, une nuit et le retour.
L'an dernier, en atterrissant directement à Tozeur, j'ai également visité sur 2 semaines, une bonne partie de cette région, Kébili, Douz, Zaafrane, Sabria, Tozeur, Nefta, Chébika, Tamerzat en étant basé sur un hôtel à Tozeur. Certe, je n'ai pas fait un grand périmètre, mais ces 2 semaines ont été bien remplies et je garde des souvenirs merveillleux des rencontres que j'ai pu y faire.
Si des choses à voir m'ont échappées pour mon périple de Novembre, et si vous avez des tuyaux pour l'excursion à Ksar Guilane, je suis preneur, car là je ne sais pas trop à qui m'adresser.
Merci à tous.
Pour moi le sangho sera le point central de mon séjour car j'envisage de visiter à fond la région et de prendre tout mon temps pour voir mais aussi pour échanger avec les locaux. Je pense d'abord en restant sur place visiter : Ksar Ouled Soltane - Ksar Ezzarah (mieux que Soltane parait-il), Ksar Ouled Dabbd, Chenini, Douiret, Guermessa, Ksar Hadada, Ghomrassen etc. Puis élargir avec Medenine, Matmata, Toujane, Tamerzet, en passant un nuit sur ce secteur. Je pense en effet aller jeter un oeil du le marché libyen du dimanche matin à Ben Guerdane, en rentrant par Zarzis. Pour Ksar Guilane, je pensais y partir en excursion depuis Tataouine, l'aller, une nuit et le retour.
L'an dernier, en atterrissant directement à Tozeur, j'ai également visité sur 2 semaines, une bonne partie de cette région, Kébili, Douz, Zaafrane, Sabria, Tozeur, Nefta, Chébika, Tamerzat en étant basé sur un hôtel à Tozeur. Certe, je n'ai pas fait un grand périmètre, mais ces 2 semaines ont été bien remplies et je garde des souvenirs merveillleux des rencontres que j'ai pu y faire.
Si des choses à voir m'ont échappées pour mon périple de Novembre, et si vous avez des tuyaux pour l'excursion à Ksar Guilane, je suis preneur, car là je ne sais pas trop à qui m'adresser.
Merci à tous.
Personnellement je ne peux pas dire plus que ce que certains ont proposé. Au départ de Tataouine je ne sais pas si l'on peut aller à Ksar guilane directement. Désolée. Vous avez déjà vu beaucoup de belles choses dans le sud et je pense que là encore vous allez revenir avec de belles images. Bon séjour.
Monique
www.jeancamillelouit.blogspot.com
Je n'avais pas généralisé non plus et j'avais bien dit que Mahdia était une super petite ville! Je ne parlais que de la plage et de mon expérience (personnelle!) sur celle-ci. 🙂
Alex, pour Sangho, c'est bien joli, mais moi non plus je n'y resterais pas 15 jours. Il y a tant de choses à voir ailleurs dans le pays. Si tu tiens à rester longtemps à un endroit, tu devrais partager ton temps entre Tataouine et Tozeur par exemple, si tu veux rester dans le sud. Évidemment c'est mon avis et tu en fais ce que tu veux! 😏
Bon voyage!
Alex, pour Sangho, c'est bien joli, mais moi non plus je n'y resterais pas 15 jours. Il y a tant de choses à voir ailleurs dans le pays. Si tu tiens à rester longtemps à un endroit, tu devrais partager ton temps entre Tataouine et Tozeur par exemple, si tu veux rester dans le sud. Évidemment c'est mon avis et tu en fais ce que tu veux! 😏
Bon voyage!
Pouquoi pas 2 semaine au Sangho ???
J'ai pris la formule 1/2 pension, car je vais partir le matin tôt après le petit déjeuner et rentrer le soir pour le repas, donc je ne vois pas ce qu'il peut y avoir de "pesant ou de lourd" dans le fait d'y rester 2 semaines dans ces conditions.
Je n'y serais que pour dormir et peut-être même pas toutes les nuits puisque j'envisage d'en passer 2 ou 3 à l'extérieur !
Mon but n'est pas de faire "2 semaines d'hôtel" mais au contraire d'y être le moins possible. Je ne suis pas du genre transat, piscine, apéro et tout le toutim, et puis au pire, si j'ai vraiment fait le tour de la région en moins de 2 semaines, je remonterais un peu sur Douz.
Mais je reste convaincu qu'il me faudra ses 2 semaines pour bien faire le tour de la région en prenant mon temps...
J'ai pris la formule 1/2 pension, car je vais partir le matin tôt après le petit déjeuner et rentrer le soir pour le repas, donc je ne vois pas ce qu'il peut y avoir de "pesant ou de lourd" dans le fait d'y rester 2 semaines dans ces conditions.
Je n'y serais que pour dormir et peut-être même pas toutes les nuits puisque j'envisage d'en passer 2 ou 3 à l'extérieur !
Mon but n'est pas de faire "2 semaines d'hôtel" mais au contraire d'y être le moins possible. Je ne suis pas du genre transat, piscine, apéro et tout le toutim, et puis au pire, si j'ai vraiment fait le tour de la région en moins de 2 semaines, je remonterais un peu sur Douz.
Mais je reste convaincu qu'il me faudra ses 2 semaines pour bien faire le tour de la région en prenant mon temps...
Je te "prête" une carte...
😉
😉Un voyage de 1000 lieues commence toujours par un pas !
(proverbe chinois)
En effet, pourquoi pas... si c'est ce qui vous convient, vous ne serez pas déçu de l'hôtel qui est très confortable et la bouffe plus que correcte. La région est pas mal aussi, quoique Tataouine elle-même ne m'a pas émerveillée.
Personnellement je préfère me promener un peu plus, c'est pourquoi je vous disais que je ne passerais pas 2 semaines entières en Sangho.
Personnellement je préfère me promener un peu plus, c'est pourquoi je vous disais que je ne passerais pas 2 semaines entières en Sangho.
Merci Alclodo de me prêter "ta carte" ! Elle est géniale et promis je te la rendrais ! Comme elle est arrivée sur mon ordi pour ainsi dire "en plein écran" j'y vois plein de petits Ksours que je ne vois pas sur ma carte à moi ! J'ai aussi envie de descendre sur Rémada (je sais ville militaire où il n'y a rien) pour aller voir un peu à Déhiba et longer un peu la frontière à la découverte des petits villages (sur ton plan je vois qu'il y a des routes et des villages), mais il parait que c'est une zone militaire interdite ?! As tu des infos à ce sujet ?
En tout cas merci !!
salut ALEX64100
il n'y a aucun interdit , et voici quelques petits exemples de ce que vous pourrez vivre dans la région , il vous faut juste savoir , que TATAOUINE étant méconnue , le meilleur moyen de la découvrir est de vous faire accompagner par quelqu'un , ceci dit , si vous aimez la randonnée et que vous n'êtes pas accompagnés d'enfants , a 10km de remada , allez voir les gravures rupestres sur le piton de ksar SAGDEL , si vous disposez d'un 4x4 , la piste douiret _ksar ghilaine est une aventure INOUBLIABLE et il y a pire ; de douiret , piste pour la route de ras el-oued et de la , a ksar maggassa sur une falaise de 400m d'aplomb vue étendue sur toute la jefara et lever de soleil est féerique si vous aimez bivouaquer , sur la carte aimablement fourni par le membre ALCLODO , que je salue vivement au passage , repérez a droite de la carte la ville de SMAR , en dessous JEBAL ERREHACH allez y voir (a pied) demandez a voir KEF ETTOUAREG plus loin ksar charchara , la réserve naturelle de SIDI TOUI et sabkhet el-khialèt ( la sebkha des ombres) en dessous de BEN GARDANE , la réserve naturelle de OUED DKOUK et le village abandonne de brega el-kebira sur la route de remada . sans aucune prétention , ceci n'est qu'un aperçut de ce que vous pouvez voir et visiter , je n'ai parle ni de météorite ni de fossiles ni de dinosaures ni.................
amicalement lotfi
il n'y a aucun interdit , et voici quelques petits exemples de ce que vous pourrez vivre dans la région , il vous faut juste savoir , que TATAOUINE étant méconnue , le meilleur moyen de la découvrir est de vous faire accompagner par quelqu'un , ceci dit , si vous aimez la randonnée et que vous n'êtes pas accompagnés d'enfants , a 10km de remada , allez voir les gravures rupestres sur le piton de ksar SAGDEL , si vous disposez d'un 4x4 , la piste douiret _ksar ghilaine est une aventure INOUBLIABLE et il y a pire ; de douiret , piste pour la route de ras el-oued et de la , a ksar maggassa sur une falaise de 400m d'aplomb vue étendue sur toute la jefara et lever de soleil est féerique si vous aimez bivouaquer , sur la carte aimablement fourni par le membre ALCLODO , que je salue vivement au passage , repérez a droite de la carte la ville de SMAR , en dessous JEBAL ERREHACH allez y voir (a pied) demandez a voir KEF ETTOUAREG plus loin ksar charchara , la réserve naturelle de SIDI TOUI et sabkhet el-khialèt ( la sebkha des ombres) en dessous de BEN GARDANE , la réserve naturelle de OUED DKOUK et le village abandonne de brega el-kebira sur la route de remada . sans aucune prétention , ceci n'est qu'un aperçut de ce que vous pouvez voir et visiter , je n'ai parle ni de météorite ni de fossiles ni de dinosaures ni.................
amicalement lotfi
lotfi
salut MANEPAPOU de la très belle MAHDIA
la piste dont vous parlez (et il n'y en a pas qu'une) a toujours existeé , pour la simple et bonne raison que toute la zone de KSAR GHILAINE s'appelait GARRAAT BOUFLIJA du nom d'une grande famille douiri (de douiret) a qui elle appartenait et ne s'appelait KSAR GHILAINE que le poste avancé romain .
amicalement lotfi
la piste dont vous parlez (et il n'y en a pas qu'une) a toujours existeé , pour la simple et bonne raison que toute la zone de KSAR GHILAINE s'appelait GARRAAT BOUFLIJA du nom d'une grande famille douiri (de douiret) a qui elle appartenait et ne s'appelait KSAR GHILAINE que le poste avancé romain .
amicalement lotfi
lotfi
Tu peux la garder 😉
Bon ! Je crois que Lofti (matunisie) a a peu près tout dit......Et je salue au passage sa
profonde connaissance de son beau pays !
Cependant, attention de ne pas s'aventurer n'importe ou avec un véhicule "normal",
les pistes du Sud peuvent sembler parfois praticables et puis on se retrouve coincés par
du sable mou("fech fech")et là, c'est galère !!
De Tataouine pour rejoindre Ksar Ghilane, tu remontes vers Matmata et direction Tamezret, c'est la route qui suit le Pipe line, (toujours un peu de sable sur la route, mais normalement, ça passe)2h/2h30 environ pour rejoindre Ksar Ghilane.
Les autorisations c'est pour les "raiders".
Si tu descend vers Remada, n'oublies pas tes papiers ! Beaucoup de contrôles !
A l'hôtel ils te fileront plein de tuyaux !!
Bon voyage 😉
Un voyage de 1000 lieues commence toujours par un pas !
(proverbe chinois)
Pas pour moi ce message, je n'ai pas parlé de piste. Mais ce n'est pas grave. Moi aussi j'ai piqué la carte d'Alain (Alclodo), elle a l'air super bien faite, et moi aussi j'envisage l'année prochaine de reprendre le tourisme en Tunisie, et retourner voir tous ces coins que je n'ai pas vus depuis plusieurs années.
Je pense que tu vas passer un bon séjour et je te le souhaite.
Monique
www.jeancamillelouit.blogspot.com
Un grand merci à tous ceux et toutes celles qui m'ont aidé à améliorer mon progamme pour mon séjour sur la région de Tataouine.
Je ne sais pas par quel bout je vais commencer en arrivant là bas, mais peu importe.
Je pars en sachant où je veux aller et ce que je veux voir, mais pas de programme précis et détaillé avec jours et heures etc.
Pour moi la réussite d'un séjour c'est justement cela, l'improvisation totale, rien de bien établi pour justement laisser la place à ce petit imprévu, cette rencontre, qui va apporter un plus à mes vacances.
Je disais 2 semaines suffiront, mais vu toutes les infos que j'ai reçues de votre part, je ne sais pas si je vais réussir à tout voir, mais peu importe, je sais que cela va me passionner et il me tarde déjà d'y être.
Je ne manquerais pas en rentrant de vous donner mes impression sur ce que je vais découvrir.
Je ne connaissais pas ce forum, mais il est génial, et bien sûr s'il est aussi génial, c'est bien grace à vous tous.
Merci à tous! et a très bientôt !
Alex
Merci à tous! et a très bientôt !
Alex
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2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!





