J'aurais voulu savoir si des gens ont voyagé avec un vélo de ville genre vélo Hollandais
J'en possède un de marque gitane le vélo de ville classique avec le panier devant et je m'en sert pour me déplacer en ville mais aussi de plus en plus pour rouler en général. Il m'est arrivé de faire plus de 100km dans une journée avec ce vélo dans les routes de campagne et des chemins et je me suis aperçu que j'étais à l'aise sans avoir mal nulle part. Je me dis pourquoi ne pas l'utiliser pour des voyages à vélo de quelques semaines comme je fais chaque année. Pour ces voyages j'utilise un winora transformé en vélo de voyage avec un cadre droit dont je ne suis pas toujours à l'aise. Au bout d'une cinquantaine de km je commence à avoir mal aux cervicales
Le vélo de ville n'est peut-être pas adapté aux voyages pourtant il est confortable pour rouler longtemps en plus il possède des pneus swalbe marathon plus que j'ai rajouté
Avez-vous voyagé avec ce genre de vélo pour connaître vos impressions
Bonjour,
Sur un Vtt ou un vélo a la position moins assise j'ai des douleurs au poignets, au dos, il m'est impossible de randonner dans cette position.
Je randonne avec un Kalkhoff petit à petit transformé en position Hollandaise, la position à évolué jusqu'à ne plus avoir de douleurs, le vélo à maintenant plus de 33 000 km. Je randonne régulièrement, sur plusieurs jours voir plusieurs semaines, sur plusieurs centaines de Km en france en Europe. Les plus longs parcours dans cette configuration est un Saint Valéry sur Somme Paris soit plus de 220 km, plus récemment 2 fois des 200 km en allant à vichy et en en repartant.
L'accessoire le plus important est la selle, éventuellement un tige de selle suspendue.
Pour ma part j'ai monté :
- Une tige de selle haut de gamme https://www.canecreek.com/product/thudbuster-lt/ son énorme avantage est le système d'élastomères de densité variable a choisir en fonction du poids du cycliste, elle a maintenant 40 000 km j'ai changé les élastomères 1 fois la première monte a fini par se détériorer après 30 000 km.
- Une selle cuir Brooks B67S qui à maintenant 33 000 km après avoir usé plusieurs selle gels me résistant entre 6 et 10 000 km.
Tu peux encore augmenter le confort en montant des pneus plus larges en 1,75 et 2 pouces soit 47 à 55 mm de large s'il y la place dans le cadre.
On peut randonner avec un vélo à la position Hollandaise, le petit moins serait un moins bon rendement au pédalage, largement compensé par le bonheur d'avoir une position confortable, sans douleurs.
Peu importe le flacon, pourvu qu'on ait l'ivresse.
Si tu es à l'aise sur ton vélo hollandais, lance-toi !
D'abord sur un week-end, ensuite sur plus long.
Tu verras bien jusqu'où tu supportes la géométrie spéciale de ce type de vélo, avec une grosse partie du poids du corps reposant sur les fesses et peu sur l'avant du corps, d'où la selle large, voire à ressort ou la tige de selle suspendue dont parle JeanM75 . Ça peut te convenir pour plusieurs jours alors que d'autres auront des douleurs dés qu'ils passent plus d'une heure sur ce type de vélos.
D'une manière générale, la croyance qu'il existerait un type de vélo spécial voyage est un mythe qui fait fonctionner le commerce. Personnellement, je ne serais pas du tout à l'aise sur un vélo hollandais, je préfère voyager avec mon vélo de route, aussi éloigné du standard du "vélo de voyage" prôné par certains que peut l'être ton vélo hollandais. Et j'avais débuté avec un VTT. Et alors ? Un vélo de voyage ce n'est pas un type de vélo, c'est juste un vélo avec lequel on voyage.
As-tu un développement qui te permette de passer quelques petits cols ? un freinage efficace ?
Pour ton vélo à cadre droit, si tu as mal aux cervicales, ça peut venir (entr'autres) d'un cadre trop long ou d'un cintre trop droit ou trop large. Personnellement, avec un cintre plat trop droit, j'ai mal aux mains et poignets, et jamais avec un cintre route car les mains se placent plus naturellement, un peu comme quand on tient un livre ouvert.
As-tu une photo des deux vélos ? Juste pour voir les différences de géométrie.
Le voyage, c'est tout sauf le type de vélo ou le moyen utilisé ... une fois parti, maison fermée et en route, l'important c'est d'adapter son moyen de déplacement, ses capacités, au but ou chemin envisagé .. c'est les gens, les pays traversés, l'oubli des habitudes journalières ...
Alors, vélo hollandais ou pas .... l'essentiel sera de ne pas chercher l'exploit, forcer "jusqu'à une fatigue anormale" (comme disait Vélocio) ... on ne voyage pas pour raconter ses exploits ou faire l'admiration de ses voisins....
En plus, seules vos sensations sur ce vélo sont à prendre en compte : on ne peut vous donner que des conseils "ordinaires" pour des gens "standards" qui peuvent ne pas s' appliquer à vous ... (nb : perso, j'ai la colonne vertébrale à peu près soudée, et, faute d'un minimum de souplesse, je ne peut tenir en selle qu'en position "relevée", bien loin de la position conseillée, ...)
Partez donc, au fil de vos voyages, vous verrez bien ...
merci pour vos conseils le plus important pour moi c'est d éviter les cadres droits car j'ai de plus en plus de mal à enfourcher mon vélo et d'y descendre et le guidon droit me donne une position inconfortable pourtant j'ai voyagé 10ans avec ce vélo winora dont je vous envoie une photo ainsi que le vélo gitane de ville qui va prendre le relais
je me permet aussi de vous communiquer mon développement du gitane afin de savoir si il est adapté pour les côtes ou certaines côtes
je suis en 700x35 pour les pneus les swalbe marathon plus ne vont pas au delà je crois pour la largeur
voici le nombre de dents pour les plateaux:
48x38x28
les pignons:
28x24x21x18x16x14
C'est normal que l'ancien ait une selle aussi plongeante vers l'avant ? vous rouliez comme ça ?
Pour les développements, 28/28 - un tour de roue - 2,15 m ... avec la charge et sur parcours montagneux, c'est plutôt un développement de "jeune" - avec des capacités physiques plus limitées, beaucoup vont jusqu'à des développements d' 1,5 m (24 x 32 par exemple) ... cela dit, on s'adapte, et puis, un peu de marche à pied n'a jamais fait de mal ...
Sur ton winora, le tube du haut est en pente pour augmenter la distance entre selle et tube pour mieux l'enjamber. Comme on voit que la selle est abaissée jusqu'au tube, c'est que ton vélo semble avoir un cadre trop grand. Pas étonnant qu'il te soit difficile de l'enfourcher. Ou bien tu pédales avec les genoux trop pliés.
Pour les développements, ils sont corrects si tu ne fais pas la route des Alpes avec 4 sacoches. Ceux qui aiment mouliner ne les trouveront pas assez courts, mais bon, 28/28 ça permet de monter pas mal de petits cols, à condition de ne pas être très chargé. Sinon, il suffit de monter un pédalier avec petit plateau en 22, ça changera tout et ça se fait (ou se fait faire) facilement.
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Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou